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Posted: 11 years ago
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Nice post. Well said. I think characters need to not only be interesting but we should also get to see the growth of the character which keeps the storyline interesting. My guess is most of us like seeing grey shaded characters more. These characters mostly reflect people in real life which is what the audience connects to more.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hi Priya,
I think its more to do with the story itself. Its like when you read a book and by the time you finish it you have seen growth in the character, a decent story and a brilliant ending and epilogue. That's what everyone's expectation is when they watch a show or atleast mine. When progress is shown towards a character with the help of other then it is appreciated. Similarly when one sees no progress but repetitive theories then it gets boring. It also depends on the mindset as well. You and I can agree to disagree be perfectly fine with that. Because we respect others opinion, not necessarily agree with it but acknowledge it. What I have been seeing is that if you even dare to go in the other direction then you get attacked. That is wrong.
At the end of the day everyone has their own understanding of what is right and what is wrong. I watch the show for SI and like AS's acting and do like the characters of Paro and Rudra..when I see the growth I admire it and when I don't see the growth I talk about it, nothing wrong with that😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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FAB post

totally agree with u
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: napstermonster

Can subconscious fear of abandonment, anxiety be a motivating factor? Because for me, everything Paro does gets filtered through what we know of her character. And the defining action for Paro when she was young, is her parents dying. She is an orphan girl, who was orphaned horrifically young, and then brought up by her Mamisa (her mother's brother's wife). Not a direct relative, really. She is biddable and from the first scene, anxious to please. Whether its Thakurain-masa, her Mamisa or Varun, Paro needs nothing more than to be loved, she wants to belong. All she really wanted out of the Varun wedding was a family.


She will do anything to be a member of a family that is her own. With Rudra, she has clung to his family, creating relationships in a ludicrous setting (given these were the Jallad's people). Now that she is his wife, all bets are off---ever widening circles of people are being included into who she considers her own. She is spinning relationships and desperately trying to hold them together, even those ties she has to a vat of poison like Mohini.


This is very characteristic of orphaned kids, actually, they have a hyper-drive towards nesting and if they are girls, they are usually extremely maternal and very clingy. The fear of abandonment, of losing someone they care for--its a constant for them. So her actions get a pass for me, over the top as they are.


I guess what I'm saying is--for me, motive matters. Not the character's nature, but the intent of their action. If Mohini had tried to, lets say, set Dilsher's room on fire to scare him away, and ended up almost killing him, I would have actually understood her motive, and excused her action. Ignoble, yet understandable, coming from a place of insecurity, of being slighted mocked and sidelined in her own home.Bad acts don't necessarily make people black characters- if the intent was not evil.


But Mala's motives just do not work for me. Her actions are indefensible. If Dilsher abused her, she should have left him WITH her son. If she fell in love with the Thakur, she could have divorced Dilsher. At least--- if she had the courage to cheat on her husband, she should have had the courage to tell him, AND Rudra to their face, why she was leaving, and to whom she was going. Rudra wouldn't have worried for her, feared she was dead, longed for her return and become terrified it was his naughtiness that drove her away. Those scars she inflicted---she does not seem to SEE them, even when he's screaming about them to her face.


I don't see her motive as anything beyond selfishness, even if she wanted to take Rudra along initially--she did not go through with it. And she was happy with the Thakur, too. I don't believe she couldn't have found a way to track Dilsher down even in Jaipur, to get her son back, if Dilsher had driven her away because of his abuse. The Thakur is childless--and the terrorist would have adopted young Major Saab quite happily.


I accept she needs to be there in the Haveli now (and on our screens) because she has to be dealt with by Rudra. I know that Paro is making him deal with it and that she herself loves Mala and has untainted memories of her---so she has double motive there. I am fine with Paro's efforts, and with Rudra's reluctance. Both are honest, from the heart, realistic motives. But Mala's exit, and her current wildly schizophrenic behavior is sticking in my craw.


Someone please tell me---how much are should we be blaming the actress, here, guys? I'm honestly confused by her reactions, or by the script.. Should I blame the Mala disconnect on the acting? Her voice modulation in the car tonight sounded actually petulant, as if she was all snarky and pissed off because Rudra would not hear her out. No apology, or words of comfort for his pain--just straight to the justification for her own actions. She sounded really...bitchy.


Is this the actress? Should Mala be this tone deaf to her son's pain, or is there something more subtle at work here? Should Paro be this over-enthusiastic about Mala when I see very little in her to get this worked up about? Am I supposed to find Mala's constant "shayad meri galti thi" insufferable? Should her tears over her"great love" for Rudra leave me this untouched ?

Any views, TM?


Very well said. And it is this inability of Mala ( i also don't know whether its the actress or the writing or both ) to connect with the viewers that is highlighting Paro's naiveness or over- enthusiasm whatever you may call it. We can feel Rudra's pain but not Mala's pain. I don't see any effort from her side to reach out to Rudra like a mother who has pined for her son for 15 yrs and who realizes that she has wronged him. So when Paro tries to impose on Rudra that he needs to give Mala a second chance , it does not come out right. If Mala had been able to evoke some emotions in the viewers, Paro's actions would not seem so out of place.



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Posted: 11 years ago
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Very true ttt and nice post !
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: rashika

Nice post. Well said. I think characters need to not only be interesting but we should also get to see the growth of the character which keeps the storyline interesting. My guess is most of us like seeing grey shaded characters more. These characters mostly reflect people in real life which is what the audience connects to more.

hey 😊
yes growth is another important factor , other than dilsher i dont see growth in any character , mohini was always evil , kaka was always understanding
rudra was always hurt
paro was always trusting thats fine

incidents that happened in their lives were huge , i think they should show the journey a bit more character devolopment wise , most indian shows are famous for that
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: evenjleena28

Hi Priya,

I think its more to do with the story itself. Its like when you read a book and by the time you finish it you have seen growth in the character, a decent story and a brilliant ending and epilogue. That's what everyone's expectation is when they watch a show or atleast mine. When progress is shown towards a character with the help of other then it is appreciated. Similarly when one sees no progress but repetitive theories then it gets boring. It also depends on the mindset as well. You and I can agree to disagree be perfectly fine with that. Because we respect others opinion, not necessarily agree with it but acknowledge it. What I have been seeing is that if you even dare to go in the other direction then you get attacked. That is wrong.
At the end of the day everyone has their own understanding of what is right and what is wrong. I watch the show for SI and like AS's acting and do like the characters of Paro and Rudra..when I see the growth I admire it and when I don't see the growth I talk about it, nothing wrong with that😊

hey vibha
agree with you , so true

after reading the book , if there is a sense of how much the characters have evolved its good enough but my issue is @red and i did @yellow
also i had a free day today
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: asthajeth

Very good post ..Thanks



Originally posted by: shree10

Very true ttt and nice post !




thank you guys , glad you found the post making some sense
Edited by tttttt1 - 11 years ago

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