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Posted: 11 years ago
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Thank you UR and Sush 😊 I haven't been watching the episodes for the past few days actually, just have read the WUs/LUs, so I don't really have much to say.

I do dislike Laila and Mala but I pity Laila and can understand where she is coming from to a certain extent...Mala? Not so much. I wish she would just die already 😆 Actually I have a problem with Paro's behaviour right now, Mala would be completely irrelevant if it wasn't for Paro. I don't know if you guys have seen eveline's post but if not, do check it out, it's a really great and thoughtful short post: http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4057244

Let me know what you think of it!

Her thoughts mirror mine, they are the reason the FL feels like an alien to me right now.

I'll also copy and paste what my response to her post was:

"You know, someone brought up a good point on this forum a few days ago...everyone is saying that Paro should support Mala because she was like a mother to her, and she was good to her; just because Mala hurt Rudra does not mean Paro should be upset with Mala as well...well, this person pointed out that you see this type of stuff in real life too...where a MIL hurts her DIL but the son/husband cannot see it or if he does he doesn't stay upset with his mother because to him his mother is great...she showers him with love...so he fails to understand and support the pain of his wife...

Well the same thing is happening here with Paro-Mala-Rudra. And it's wrong. What Paro should be saying to Mala is "I respect you and love you, you are like a mother to me, but what you did was wrong. You hurt an innocent child and no matter how I feel about you, that child who is a grown man now is hurting because of your actions and I want to help you make things better, for his sake." It's besides the point that Rudra may be hurting because of Dilsher and Mohini's actions as well...Paro doesn't know that. I hate how Paro is making Mala look like an innocent victim here as well."

So yeah...Paro is all talk with Rudra...and all action with Mala...saying "I support you Major saab" but then running off to Mala isn't enough...nor is it right...talking about Mala's pain as if it's more than Rudra's...when Rudra's been in pain for 15 years...while Mala lived her life luxuriously with Tejawat for all that time...and Paro knows this...it does not sit well with me. Paro flaunting Mala's love for her in front of Rudra's face makes me sick. Talk about rubbing salt onto one's wounds.

Anyway...if you don't mind me asking Sush, what do you do?

Edited by Zeeliciousxo - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hi Z thanks for posting...
I am in corporate management for a multinational corporation...don't want to say more than that...I hope you will understand...

Z...I can understand you feel frustrated because like Paro...my posts indicate that I am ready to accept Mala...and I was ready to accept Laila too...I don't know Z ...I have different expectations from people ...about what is good and what is bad...I feel we are missing a crucial part of the picture ...that we are not privy to yet...Perhaps Paro believes that too...perhaps she wants to believe people are good ...and Mala is a good person...and it is all a misunderstanding that will get cleared...what she says reflects that wishful thinking...There are many people who are very optimistic about people..., life and in general...and they are not always wrong Z...sometimes they are right...Of course sometimes they are terribly wrong but not always...Is it possible to leave that 0.0000000000000001% possibility open ...? Lets hear the story ...and convict when we are "beyond a reasonable doubt" ...

You are right that...sons who turn a blind eye to their mothers misbehaving...also probably do it because the want to believe that the mother is a good person...that is a situation where similar trait is disastrous...There is no right answer on what is the right view...Your view is as justified as mine...that's why I want you to post...so that we can share...and understand another point of view...even if we don't see it the same way...I do agree that if Paro brought her to the house on her own...because she has a good view of Maala and only for that reason...it would have been insensitive ...even though I was willing to make concession there may be because of my predisposition or may be because I thought the reason was that she just couldn't leave her out there because she is his mom...and one has to pu up with blood relations even if they don't always have acceptable behavior. But since Dilsher asked her...don't you think she is justified..?

I think I have figured out the story...will post in my new thread ...I hope I get to make it before my china call at 8 PM EST.




Edited by -Sush- - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Yes, of course I understand 😊 Thanks for sharing!

Sush, I know that Mala will eventually be accepted because this is an Indian drama...so while I don't like it, I accept it, and so I am not too frustrated about it...In my opinion, no matter what the entire picture is, Mala's truth, no matter what it is, will not lessen Rudra's pain and all the crap he went through for 15 years. So all I want Paro to do is be there for him, to support him emotionally, because the little boy inside Rudra is bleeding and nobody is understanding him, everyone is just lecturing him or treating him like he's the bad guy. I feel like I'm suffocating when I think about what Rudra is going through. The man is broken inside again, and yes Paro is right when she wants him to face his mother, but everything else she is doing is not right. She is not understanding how deep Rudra's wounds are, she does not understand that he is bleeding and he opened up to Paro before because all he wants from her is her support and comfort. Yes Paro can go to Mala to comfort her as well, but right now Paro's priority seems to be Mala instead of Rudra and that makes me upset.

This isn't about Mala or her goodness, that's the thing. It's about Rudra and his pain. Mala may turn out to be the greatest person in the world - and the CVs may pull this twist and actually make her such a person - but it doesn't change the fact that Rudra is severely damaged and he has no one to turn to. Even if Paro believes Mala is good, the fact of the matter is that Mala caused Rudra a lot of pain - for 15 years, and right now the man needs his wife by his side, not by his mother's side. The last thing he needs is lectures from Paro on how he eventually has to forgive his mother for her sake, or about what a great mother Mala was to her etc.

This isn't about wrong or right, frankly Paro has been more wrong about things than right, but that is not the point here. The point is that poor Rudy boy is going through hell, but no one ever loves him as fiercely as he loves them. I really don't see Rudra doing what Paro is doing if he was in her place. He is absolutely crazy about Paro and I really don't think he'd ever comfort his mother more than he'd comfort Paro.

Yes exactly...the truth is, just because someone is good to you doesn't mean they are a good person...Paro should know this...Tejawat was good to Mala...but was he a good person? If Paro learned all her values from Mala like people say (I personally believe Paro's mamisa is her primary caretaker, not Mala) then Mala should have the same values that Paro has. So why didn't Mala see Tejawat like Paro is seeing Mala? That yes Tejawat has clearly done a lot of crap, but he was good to her, he loved her and treated her like a Queen, so there must be more to the story, there has to be a reason why he did what he did, he may even deserve a second chance...I mean, most of us would not think this way after finding out such a truth about our husband, but Mala has been shown as extremely...I don't know...naive and delusional, living in her own little bubble...

When we were shown Mala recently she was chained by Tejawat and was treated in a cruel manner...but when she first found out the truth about Tejawat...she clearly did not go all Paro on him...instead she obviously lashed out on him...rejected him...and so his illusion of love was broken.

I don't know if Paro was justified in bringing Mala to the haveli or not, even though she was only following Dilsher's orders...because my problem is that Paro seems to be thinking about Mala's comfort, Mala's pain...she is blatantly neglecting Rudra and his pain...if she was truly in tune with Rudra's feelings...she would not have taken such a drastic step...not without informing Rudra at least...but Paro does what she thinks is right. She refuses to see things from another point of view...for her there is no way that Mala is as bad as Rudra sees her, and she even goes as far as comforting Mala by telling her that she was/is a good mother to Rudra...like what? How can you say that? You are degrading and insulting Rudra's pain by saying such a thing. And what right does Mala have to respect? What is Paro talking about? Respect is earned, not given on a silver platter! Also, why do she have to always show off about what a great mother Mala was to her in front of Rudra? Do she really think he wants to hear all of that? Paro goes to comfort Rudra, she hugs Rudra, but she doesn't comfort him. She raves about Mala. This not support or comfort!! Poor Rudra. He needs to get out of this mad house, leave Paro and Mala and Dilsher together. He needs to breathe, he needs space and time, he should go on a long vacation, maybe with Aman bhaisa 😆

Dilsher is an idiot as well. I despise his attitude right now. These two terrible parents ruined an innocent child's life and now D has the nerve to tell R that it's a husband and wife matter and he should not interfere. Gimme a break!

Ok rant over 😛 Don't know if I made any sense...but I feel for Rudra...and I feel for Paro because she is stuck in this entire Ranawat mess and for some reason feels that it is her responsibility to make everyone a happy family again 😕 Maybe Indian dramas aren't really my thing...because these Mother Theresa acts from FLs in Indian soaps are just plain annoying IMO...

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