Leap/Revenge: A Contrarian POV

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The conventional belief on the IF is that JW has wronged Bani and that Bani should at least take some revenge against him b4 forgiving him and accepting him back. Now I can understand that Bani who does not know anything about what transpired feels angry with JW and wants to avenge herself on him. In fact if she was to destroy him, I would never hold it against her. What I find difficult to understand is how some people on the Forum who have all the facts with them think that "JW is guilty and largely responsible for the current mess" that "Bani should act pricey and give him a hard time" and that "some revenge against JW is justified".

The argument is:

  • Charge# 1: JW is largely responsible for the current mess. He did little to save Bani from trouble. That he allowed Pia to blackmail him. That he snatched away her kids cruelly without explaining anything to her. Thanks to him, Bani has to spend five years in exile.
  • Charge #2: He has done nothing to punish Pia, Jigs and Karuna in spite of knowing that they were responsible for framing her and "killing her"

Let us examine how valid these arguments are:

Background

Let's briefly recapitulate the flow of events.

  • Mar 7: ACP Rajeev Mathur (RM) informs JW that Sahil's death may have been murder, not accident. JW asks him to take a hike, does not inform Bani. Bad? Maybe, but then Bani was preggie. The same day also RM informs Bani, who also asks him to take a hike.
  • Mar 8: RM finds out that Sahil was poisoned, discusses this with TS.
  • Mar 13: TS informs Bani and asks her not to discuss with JW. Bani of courses complies readily thus concealing from the head of the Walia household that a member of the family has been bumped off. And decides that henceforth she is going to snoop about with TS as her confidante. So what makes her select a brain dead lawyer who would have lost all three cases for the Walias had someone or the other not bailed him out. The simple fact that Bani does not trust someone unless he has backstabbed JW in the past- Pooch in PR raaz, TS in the Sahil raaz.
  • Mar 14: RM searches WM in presence of TS/Bani. Find posion in Ranveer's room. However, neither of them bother to inform JW, why because of the khandaan's izzat. As to how the khandaan's izzat is saved by JW not knowing the truth, don't ask me. Rano-Ranveer marriage is just over. Ranveer is arrested.
  • Mar 15: RM interrogates Ranveer and frees him. TS,Bani and Ranveer are back at WM, Bani conceals the fact of Ranveer's arrest.
  • Mar 19: TS/Bani go about snooping and discussing Sahil murder case
  • Mar 20: Shootout at party.
  • Mar 21: TB do some more snooping, florist, Laxmi buying medicines etc. TS informs Bani that the assassination attempt was at her, not JW.
  • Mar 22: JW goes to London completely oblivious of the fact that Sahil has been assassinated. BT are veiwing Sahil's video where he says that someone is trying to kill him.
  • Mar 23: Camera malfunctions. Instead of handing it over to the police as evidence our jasoos duo decide to get it repaired on their own. Had they handed it over to police no doubt the police would have used it as evidence against Bani. OTOH Bani could have claimed that by handing over the tapes without manipulating it shows her good faith and innocence. No?
  • Mar 27: St. Bani brings Pia back to WM.
  • Mar 28-29: Pia is snooping on TB.
  • Mar 29: Video shop is burnt. We now know that it was burnt by Pia, who got her hands on the VCD. Would it be fair to say that Pia would never have found about the VCD had she not been brought back into WM and got a chance to snoop on TB.
  • Apr 3: JW protests Pia's presence in WM. Bani tells him that St. Kdbhoot and her repto rapist sister are more important than her marriage. TS tries to warn off Bani and is thrown out. TS does give JW some clue that Sahil was inded murdered and that there is a conspiracy against Bani. But isn't this too late and how much can he rely on the evidence of a certified lunatic.
  • Apr 4: Bani is snooping, someone steals her bracelet, which is later placed in Jannat Apartment thus framing Bani. Bani of course does not bother to inform the police or JW or the insurance office. Would it be fair to see that Bani should have reported the theft of a rather expensive bracelet immediately and that would have proved in court that someone was trying to frame her.
  • Apr 5: Bani goes to Jannat Aptt, sees Karuna there. Someone steals her plate to frame her.
  • Apr 6: Bani finally fills up JW with all the details of the Sahil murder case.
  • Apr 9: JB are back at WM. Pia gives JW MS to put back around her neck. RM matches Bani's fingerprint. Bani sees burkha wali chases him to Jannat and finds that it is JW. Now we know that Pia had blackmailed him to doing it.
  • Apr 10: BW arrested, Adi informs us that no lawyer would fight her case.
  • Apr 11: BW confined to Jail after Munna testifies that she is mental. Wrong on JW's part but he was being blackmailed and had he told the truth wouldn't Bani be put to jail for 14 years.
  • Apr 12: JW takes away her kids, Bani is sent to MA. Agreed it was very bad on JW's part but had he not taken the kid away they would have been put in MA. Would it have done the kids any good?
  • Apr 13: JW tries to kill Pia but she says that she has arranged for VCD to be sent to police. Rano tries to tell Pia the truth but the three witches bully her off.
  • Apr 16: A nurse smuggles a mobile to Bani and she is singing a lullaby to the kids. Maasi who cud have told her the truth keeps mum. Hardly she has started singing that Pia and Jigs are there to warn the nurse.
  • Apr 17: Bani escapes and sets off on her exile. You cannot blame her for doing that but how is JW responsible for her going into exile.
  • Apr 18: JW prevents the marriage but Pia gets rights to stay at WM by showing him the paper where bani has given adoption rights for the kids. Bani goes away with AD.

Inferences

From the above can we draw the following inferences:

  • By concealing the facts about Sahil's death, she did not exactly do anything to help JW find the real assassin. JW found about Sahil's death too late to do something serious about it.
  • By bringing up Pia into WM did Bani not make it possible for Pia to get her hand on JW's neck and make it difficult for him to mount a good defence. In fact most of the evidence that was used to frame Bani were collected AFTER Pia was back in WM which suggests that it was Pia who helped frame Bani.
  • Did not Bani's jasoosi and refusal to co-operate/share evidence with the police as a good citizen get her into trouble in the first place.
  • The trio were marking Bani at Jail/MA very closely and had JW's message been intercepted, Bani would have been in big trouble.

Examining the Charges again:

#1:

  • If JW is guilty for not doing anything to protect Bani, isn't Bani even more guilty for behaving in an irresponsible manner by keeping things from JW and police and believing in a rank idiot and certified backstabber like TS?
  • If JW allowed himself to be blackmailed by Pia, is Bani not even more guilty of getting the great Pia (who had twice been kicked out by JW himself) back into WM in the first place where she could blackmail JW and Bani?
  • If JW did not inform Bani isn't it because he never got the time (bani may have in MA for only 2-3 days), his first priority was to head off the Pia marriage? Besides, he had to order a nice sherwani for himself for the wedding, na?😉 Is there any evidence that once he had got the 6 months breathing space, he would never have explained anything to Bani. But Bani ran away b4 he cud explain anything (not that I blame her for it)

#2:

  • Agreed that JW did not deal harshly with the trio. Maybe once Bani was dead, he simply gave up on the fight. Maybe it was just that his only priority was to live for his kids. But isn't it equally true that Bani hamstrung him by signing the adoption papers while in MA. Agreed that JW could have fought the legal battle with the trio but would it not have subjected the kids to the risk of a slow and prolonged legal battle. So if JW is guilty, isn't Bani equally so?
  • Besides, if JW is guilty of not punishing the trio isn't Bani even more guilty? While JW just allowed the witches to remain in WM (and remember Jigs and Karuna actually have a right on that house), Bani actually brought her hubby's repto rapist back into WM from where she belonged -in the gutters.
  • And if JW tolerated the witches it was because he was being blackmailed first by the VCD which cud have destroyed Bani's life and then by the adoption paper which cud have harmed the kids. Who was blackmailing Bani into keeping Pia at WM? Of course veteran Dixitologists like Mahim and Ash would argue that Bani was being blackmailed by a far more dangerous entity than Pia- St. Kdbhoot.
  • So if Bani's supporters now accuse JW of not punishing her tormentors, would it not been a case of the supporters of a pot calling the kettle black?

Now of course, Bani's kartoots have gotten her into trouble into big time which is OK as she has the right to screw up her own life. But why has she screwed up the lives of innocent bystanders:

  • A strapping young lad like my poor Munna has had to live like a vidhwa at the tender age of 45. And I am sure thanks to Rano and St. Billo's watchful eyes, he has not been able to get any support from his elder saali, either.😉
  • Poor Krishna and Atharva (the kids who fondly call you guys buas/pishima/phuphijaan😉) have all grown up without a Mom.

Of course I am not suggesting that JW or Bani are responsible for the current mess. That honour goes to the Mr. X who framed her in the first place (either Sahil or some unknown person, my vote goes to Adbhoot) followed by his agents- the three witches. But if some residual blame has to be attached to our beloved jodi, the lion's share of that part must go to Amma, not Buddha. While Buddha may have been at worst passive when confronted with trouble and that too because he was being blackmailed, Amma actually invited trouble in the first place.

Conclusion

In IMHO the following:

  • If JW is guilty of nothing that Bani hasn't done herself, so why r many of those who know all the facts calling for revenge against him?
  • JW should tell Bani the truth at the first possible moment. But he should not apologise (too much) as he has nothing much to apologise about it. And he should stop feeling guilty about himself.
  • If Bani does not know the truth it would be OK if she wreaks vengeance on him. But the moment she knows the truth (even if it happens b4 her revenge is over) she should humbly and unconditionally tender an apology for her assinine activities to JW and more importantly to Krishna and Atharva.
  • And pakro her kaan and swear to stay off BJBB actitivities in the future.
  • Of course JW and the kids should be magnanimous enuff to pardon her given how much she has suffered in the past.
  • Finally of course join hands to get even with Adbhoot and the three witches.

Rgds,

Priyanka

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Posted: 18 years ago
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haila.. i don't know where to begin.. im simply all smiles now.. kya likha hai 👏 and every thing -- pin pointed.. im speechless.. i don't know where to begin at.. where to end at.. mindblowing post.. i'll surely get back.. after i wipe d grin off my face.. cuz d post.. every single point and DAMN!!!.. 👏

but d post surely brought bac memories.. especially as to y.. mahaanta and bani seem to have lots in common😕 will get back😳

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The conventional belief on the IF is that JW has wronged Bani and that Bani should at least take some revenge against him b4 forgiving him and accepting him back. Now I can understand that Bani who does not know anything about what transpired feels angry with JW and wants to avenge herself on him. In fact if she was to destroy him, I would never hold it against her. What I find difficult to understand is how some people on the Forum who have all the facts with them think that "JW is guilty and largely responsible for the current mess" that "Bani should act pricey and give him a hard time" and that "some revenge against JW is justified".

dear pri i think ur munna is totally brainless fellow who cannot make a simple plan to save hi s wife from clutches of pia. dear he is also responsible for all the mess as he was such a mature and experienced man and was first fooled by his own sister and then pia too and then made a stupid plan to save bani instead of coming up with some great plan. why he was not able to explain bani in private the reason for hsi behavior. so for me he has turned into someone who just has a body without any brain. so i think bani's revenge against him is totally justified and if bani decides to even kill him that will be a less severe punishment for taking her children away from her right after birth i think pia don't have anything to do with that, that was stupid plan of JW.

The argument is:

    Charge# 1: JW is largely responsible for the current mess. He did little to save Bani from trouble. That he allowed Pia to blackmail him. That he snatched away her kids cruelly without explaining anything to her. Thanks to him, Bani has to spend five years in exile.
  • Charge #2: He has done nothing to punish Pia, Jigs and Karuna in spite of knowing that they were responsible for framing her and "killing her"

Let us examine how valid these arguments are:

Background

Let's briefly recapitulate the flow of events.

    Mar 7: ACP Rajeev Mathur (RM) informs JW that Sahil's death may have been murder, not accident. JW asks him to take a hike, does not inform Bani. Bad? Maybe, but then Bani was preggie. The same day also RM informs Bani, who also asks him to take a hike. dear pri why he did not tell bani about this. i don't think it might have affected her pregnancy in any way Mar 8: RM finds out that Sahil was poisoned, discusses this with TS. this is not fault of bani, it was Jw who was not helping RM in the case so he went to TS Mar 13: TS informs Bani and asks her not to discuss with JW. Bani of courses complies readily thus concealing from the head of the Walia household that a member of the family has been bumped off. And decides that henceforth she is going to snoop about with TS as her confidante. So what makes her select a brain dead lawyer who would have lost all three cases for the Walias had someone or the other not bailed him out. The simple fact that Bani does not trust someone unless he has backstabbed JW in the past- Pooch in PR raaz, TS in the Sahil raaz. that was idea of TS a very close friend of Jw and dear bani did not tell JW as she don't want to give tension to him knowing about all the diseases he is suffering Mar 14: RM searches WM in presence of TS/Bani. Find posion in Ranveer's room. However, neither of them bother to inform JW, why because of the khandaan's izzat. As to how the khandaan's izzat is saved by JW not knowing the truth, don't ask me. Rano-Ranveer marriage is just over. Ranveer is arrested. there she was fault but she was able to get ranveer out so i think ranverr must have told JW about the whole issue Mar 15: RM interrogates Ranveer and frees him. TS,Bani and Ranveer are back at WM, Bani conceals the fact of Ranveer's arrest. but why ranveer kept his mouth closed that is also a big issue Mar 19: TS/Bani go about snooping and discussing Sahil murder case but i love jassos bani a lot for sure at least she tried using her brain and not like ur braindead munna Mar 20: Shootout at party. dear at one point she wanted to tell the truth to JW in party when he was shot so bani is not at fault there too Mar 21: TB do some more snooping, florist, Laxmi buying medicines etc. TS informs Bani that the assassination attempt was at her, not JW. he was right as murderer was indeed try to kill bani only and not JW Mar 22: JW goes to London completely oblivious of the fact that Sahil has been assassinated. BT are veiwing Sahil's video where he says that someone is trying to kill him. dear bani tried to stop him as she wanted to tell him but he was much more worried about business and raashi than bani and his child Mar 23: Camera malfunctions. Instead of handing it over to the police as evidence our jasoos duo decide to get it repaired on their own. Had they handed it over to police no doubt the police would have used it as evidence against Bani. OTOH Bani could have claimed that by handing over the tapes without manipulating it shows her good faith and innocence. No? if she must have succeeded in her mission u must have patted her back but person learns from failure only and hopefully bani must have come to know about the truth but cannot do anything as backstabbers were within family only and with jigs like people in home how can one thing about anything positive. Mar 27: St. Bani brings Pia back to WM. i agree that was her mistake but JW must have stopped her or forced her to throw her out as she was angry with pia but cannot left her on roads as she was claiming she don't remember anything and she wanted to give him lesson once her memory is back busy right now will be back with more Mar 28-29: Pia is snooping on TB. Mar 29: Video shop is burnt. We now know that it was burnt by Pia, who got her hands on the VCD. Would it be fair to say that Pia would never have found about the VCD had she not been brought back into WM and got a chance to snoop on TB. who knows then u must be thinking that pia was the one who gave supari to kill bani, even till date it is not clear but if she was the one with sahil then don't u think that even when pia was outside WM she was working on their destruction Apr 3: JW protests Pia's presence in WM. Bani tells him that St. Kdbhoot and her repto rapist sister are more important than her marriage. TS tries to warn off Bani and is thrown out. TS does give JW some clue that Sahil was inded murdered and that there is a conspiracy against Bani. But isn't this too late and how much can he rely on the evidence of a certified lunatic. dear Jw was told that TS was fully cured of his ailment and just needed support so i think he should have listened to what he was trying to say but no even munna goes mad when issue of bani comes and he just stops using his brain if he ever possess one Apr 4: Bani is snooping, someone steals her bracelet, which is later placed in Jannat Apartment thus framing Bani. Bani of course does not bother to inform the police or JW or the insurance office. Would it be fair to see that Bani should have reported the theft of a rather expensive bracelet immediately and that would have proved in court that someone was trying to frame her. dear she was busy and was under lot of stress and tension but tell me why other GFN did not report about that Apr 5: Bani goes to Jannat Aptt, sees Karuna there. Someone steals her plate to frame her. again how can bani know that all the sisters of Jw are witches and have 2 faces Apr 6: Bani finally fills up JW with all the details of the Sahil murder case. then what Jw has done he tells her to stay out of it why why he was not worried about finding the murderer whether he himself killed sahil Apr 9: JB are back at WM. Pia gives JW MS to put back around her neck. RM matches Bani's fingerprint. Bani sees burkha wali chases him to Jannat and finds that it is JW. Now we know that Pia had blackmailed him to doing it. again braindead JW he should have explained everything to bani while she was in jail but no Apr 10: BW arrested, Adi informs us that no lawyer would fight her case. how stupid of this that a business tycoon is not able to hire a lawyer for his so called lovable wife and tells that she is his life. pri dear we live in india and in india u know lawyers are after the case of renowned personality and they work for money and can turn the case in any direction Apr 11: BW confined to Jail after Munna testifies that she is mental. Wrong on JW's part but he was being blackmailed and had he told the truth wouldn't Bani be put to jail for 14 years. dear but why JW did not use his brain to prove bani innocent why he did not hire detectives to find about the real cause of death of sahil again i want to say because of age his mind has stopped funcitoning Apr 12: JW takes away her kids, Bani is sent to MA. Agreed it was very bad on JW's part but had he not taken the kid away they would have been put in MA. Would it have done the kids any good? dear even if children were in MA what was the big problem when he can see his so called lovable wife in MA why not his children, did not it show he was biased towards wife and children and he can see bani in pain but not his children😡 Apr 13: JW tries to kill Pia but she says that she has arranged for VCD to be sent to police. Rano tries to tell Pia the truth but the three witches bully her off. dear why they go to meet munni openly, why rano and jw were not able to bribe the staff of MA while witches were able to do so this shows one more failure on their part Apr 16: A nurse smuggles a mobile to Bani and she is singing a lullaby to the kids. Maasi who cud have told her the truth keeps mum. Hardly she has started singing that Pia and Jigs are there to warn the nurse. how come they come to know about her call and this was fault of maasi Apr 17: Bani escapes and sets off on her exile. You cannot blame her for doing that but how is JW responsible for her going into exile. dear she came back to WM to know the reason behind behavior of JW but what she saw was wedding of JW and Pia so don't u think JW was responsible for her exile as she must not have run away if she may not have seen him marrying pia. tell me pri which law permits a husband to marry for second time without divorce, why he was not able to use this law before staging that drama of marriage what was the need for that drama and tell me why ur stupid JW was chosing shervani with such a love when he was forced for marriage😡 Apr 18: JW prevents the marriage but Pia gets rights to stay at WM by showing him the paper where bani has given adoption rights for the kids. Bani goes away with AD. i still doubt authenticity of papers and really doubt that whether bani really signed hthem or not or else ur munna was again made fool and proved braindead by pia by faking papers😉
  • InferencesFrom the above can we draw the following inferences:
    By concealing the facts about Sahil's death, she did not exactly do anything to help JW find the real assassin. JW found about Sahil's death too late to do something serious about it. actually JW was really did nto want to know about the real culprit, does this means that he himself is real culprit. he was not helping police also into matter By bringing up Pia into WM did Bani not make it possible for Pia to get her hand on JW's neck and make it difficult for him to mount a good defence. In fact most of the evidence that was used to frame Bani were collected AFTER Pia was back in WM which suggests that it was Pia who helped frame Bani. u never know pia might have been able to collect that with the help of karuna and jigs otherwise too Did not Bani's jasoosi and refusal to co-operate/share evidence with the police as a good citizen get her into trouble in the first place. thsi was fault of TS and not bani for sure
  • The trio were marking Bani at Jail/MA very closely and had JW's message been intercepted, Bani would have been in big trouble.

Examining the Charges again:

#1:

    If JW is guilty for not doing anything to protect Bani, isn't Bani even more guilty for behaving in an irresponsible manner by keeping things from JW and police and believing in a rank idiot and certified backstabber like TS? even if bani is partly responsible for her fate, largely it is ur munna who is responsible for bani's condition for leaving her to die in MA or to turn mad herself which i think is even worse than 14 years imprisonment or even phansi too gIf JW allowed himself to be blackmailed by Pia, is Bani not even more guilty of getting the great Pia (who had twice been kicked out by JW himself) back into WM in the first place where she could blackmail JW and Bani? i think she brought her back as she is an innocent angel and having a sweet heart who tries to perceive people also in the same light so was not able to get hold of pia and her plans hopefully now as durga she will be able to do what she was not able to do as bani. bani always wanted to punish pia for her sins once her memory was back
  • If JW did not inform Bani isn't it because he never got the time (bani may have in MA for only 2-3 days), his first priority was to head off the Pia marriage? Besides, he had to order a nice sherwani for himself for the wedding, na?😉 Is there any evidence that once he had got the 6 months breathing space, he would never have explained anything to Bani. But Bani ran away b4 he cud explain anything (not that I blame her for it) dear he got a number of opportunities to tell her, why did nto he tell him on the day when he took her children away or why he did nto any other way to tell her the truth without pia coming to know about this, does not this proves JW to be brainless for sure

#2:

    Agreed that JW did not deal harshly with the trio. Maybe once Bani was dead, he simply gave up on the fight. Maybe it was just that his only priority was to live for his kids. But isn't it equally true that Bani hamstrung him by signing the adoption papers while in MA. Agreed that JW could have fought the legal battle with the trio but would it not have subjected the kids to the risk of a slow and prolonged legal battle. So if JW is guilty, isn't Bani equally so? pri i don't think bani signed those papers for sure and they were faked by pia Besides, if JW is guilty of not punishing the trio isn't Bani even more guilty? While JW just allowed the witches to remain in WM (and remember Jigs and Karuna actually have a right on that house), why girls are supposed to go to their sasural after marriage or otherwise he might have given them their share and must have been living separately but u know he is actually not worried about hsi children too as he cannot see that jigs can kill his children also for money Bani actually brought her hubby's repto rapist back into WM from where she belonged -in the gutters. i think ur munna was not innocent he kept on giving hints to pia that she was his love and bani was just a burden and she was her kind not bani so i think he motivated reptile to rape him And if JW tolerated the witches it was because he was being blackmailed first by the VCD which cud have destroyed Bani's life and then by the adoption paper which cud have harmed the kids. Who was blackmailing Bani into keeping Pia at WM? Of course veteran Dixitologists like Mahim and Ash would argue that Bani was being blackmailed by a far more dangerous entity than Pia- St. Kdbhoot. how stupid of ur JW what the hell he was doing for 5 years, busy with business how he can be so sure about safety of his children with witches😡
  • So if Bani's supporters now accuse JW of not punishing her tormentors, would it not been a case of the supporters of a pot calling the kettle black? dear this is ur perspective not mine

Now of course, Bani's kartoots have gotten her into trouble into big time which is OK as she has the right to screw up her own life. But why has she screwed up the lives of innocent bystanders:

    A strapping young lad like my poor Munna has had to live like a vidhwa at the tender age of 45. And I am sure thanks to Rano and St. Billo's watchful eyes, he has not been able to get any support from his elder saali, either.😉 and dear what about bani, what ur munna has turned her into. if u think that ur munna has suffered as he was widhwa then dear what about bani, i think bani shld have also thought about all her needs and bani supporters shld be worried about this aspect too
  • Poor Krishna and Atharva (the kids who fondly call you guys buas/pishima/phuphijaan😉) have all grown up without a Mom. fault of ur dear munna only

Of course I am not suggesting that JW or Bani are responsible for the current mess. That honour goes to the Mr. X who framed her in the first place (either Sahil or some unknown person, my vote goes to Adbhoot) followed by his agents- the three witches. But if some residual blame has to be attached to our beloved jodi, the lion's share of that part must go to Amma, not Buddha. While Buddha may have been at worst passive when confronted with trouble and that too because he was being blackmailed, Amma actually invited trouble in the first place.

dear for me ur munna is responsible for current situation is 75% and munni is only 5% and rest is pia😉

Conclusion

In IMHO the following:

    If JW is guilty of nothing that Bani hasn't done herself, so why r many of those who know all the facts calling for revenge against him? pri u want to say katal bhi kara to bhi gunehgaar nahin kahenge i must say u really love ur munna a lot JW should tell Bani the truth at the first possible moment. But he should not apologise (too much) as he has nothing much to apologise about it. And he should stop feeling guilty about himself. why he shld not apologise for his karni😡and failures in life If Bani does not know the truth it would be OK if she wreaks vengeance on him. But the moment she knows the truth (even if it happens b4 her revenge is over) she should humbly and unconditionally tender an apology for her assinine activities to JW and more importantly to Krishna and Atharva. PRi i think even then she shld not forgive him easily, but she shld try to see where her happiness is with aD or Jw and let her decide why u want to decide that after coming to know about teh truth she will believe that truth and will come back in arms of ur JW may be by that time she must have landed in arms of AD😉and dear as munna don't correct people that Pia is not Mrs. Walia then i think he is spineless too so does not deserve bani and i think bani shld go for pushkar or some other person And pakro her kaan and swear to stay off BJBB actitivities in the future. i want her to all those activities Of course JW and the kids should be magnanimous enuff to pardon her given how much she has suffered in the past. 😡😡 u want her to blame my bani for karni of ur munna Finally of course join hands to get even with Adbhoot and the three witches.
  • i don't think she will join hands with witches but AD for sure😉

swati

  • Rgds,

Priyanka

Edited by swatinarang - 18 years ago
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Swati,

(he was such a mature and experienced man )

Are you describing Munna? 😆

(if bani decides to even kill him )

I will whole-heartedly support Bani in that. At least in future if Bani lands up in trouble because of her own misdeeds Munna wont be blamed for it. 😉

(dear pri why he did not tell bani about this. i don't think it might have affected her pregnancy in any way )

Munna knew from personal experience that if Bani came to know about a mystery she will back to snooping and as most expectant mothers/mothers on IF will tell you that snopping and chasing assassins is not great pursuit for preggie women.

Rgds,

Pri


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Dear, Good job in getting all the facts…It's a very good defence for JW. Really applaud your efforts.👏👏👏 But still am not convinced.😉 Actually from the facts you have mentioned, my impression of him is turning so bad and I am starting to dislike the guy…oh well , shouldn't matter as I have decided to leave the show but thanks Pri for given me enlightenment that I actually liked a person who is totally not the kind of Man I would like😛…I feel like he is a totally spineless guy who only bothers about himself and his happiness and nothing about his family's happiness as a whole, But then I will keep that impression to myself…😉

I found one thing about JW – JW only cares about himself and his happiness. Of course, he wants Bani's happiness also but he wants his happiness more than Bani's. Firstly, Bani has been away from him for Five years, did he even once think about how she survived, how is she? No, the guy is busy rejoicing that HIS happiness is back. If he is a truly caring person, concern comes first. But hey, for JW, he was not happy for the five years and now that Bani is back he can be happy. How selfish!🤢

Coming to revenge, how conveniently is JW's passive behaviour in everything is ignored. Nah, now I can't blame advent Munna supporters afterall isn't JW a poor victim of everything…Poor guy…

~ JW was the first one to know about Sahil's murder – Inspector informed him first…but hey who should I bother if someone is murdered as long as I am happy with Bani, anyone can be killed.

~ Besides, JW know that Pia and Sahil were scheming against Bani. Bani till date does not know what level Pia can go. Bani knows that Pia raped JW, she knows that she wants JW…but does Bani know that Pia considers her as a hindrance and wants to eradicate her? Bani does not but JW knows. He knew Bani is always in trouble cos Sahil and Pia were trying to destroy Bani, but what did he do? NOTHING…absolutely nothing to safeguard Bani's safety…Had he once told Bani to be careful as she got enemies, Bani would not have brought Pia into WM…If Bani brought Pia back into WM, that is purely because she was helping. But why did not JW tell Bani the whole thing about Pia to Bani, so that Bani could have been alert. Oh well, what can I expect from a selfish guy? Nothing, but still Bani is blamed. Well, selective viewing of facts is no good dear…

If JW is guilty for not doing anything to protect Bani, isn't Bani even more guilty for behaving in an irresponsible manner by keeping things from JW and police and believing in a rank idiot and certified backstabber like TS? Of course, Bani is wrong. But hey, how conveniently is JW's passiveness to every issue in his life is not taken into consideration. JW was the first person who came to know about Sahil's death. Secondly, He already knew how bad Sahil was, he knew that Sahil and Pia were trying to eradicate Bani, didn't all those ring a bells in him? Obvious he is more into himself than anyone, so he is least bothered. Bani is guilty because she was irresponsible, so what can be said about JW? I guess he is the ONLY Responsible person.

JW actually lied in the court and got an innocent person in jail for the crime she did not commit. All these are not wrong but Bani not given the sahil's tape to police makes her an irresponsible, bad citizen of the country. Really Pri, no one can like Munna like you guys do for actually not seeing his faults at all and to point fingers at others. Indeed, all these pointing fingers shows he is at greater fault and who is not…

Long live JW and his responsive character.

If JW allowed himself to be blackmailed by Pia, is Bani not even more guilty of getting the great Pia (who had twice been kicked out by JW himself) back into WM in the first place where she could blackmail JW and Bani? Haha, Bani brought back Pia into WM hence JW got blackmailed by Pia…okay, righttt…wait, even if Pia did not come to WM, she could still have framed Bani from outside as she had the DVD and Jigs in WM to gather clues...Even in that case, JW would have still given in to Pia…after all, JW's brains are missing aren't?...Giving in is JW's mistake, Pia in WM or not in WM wouldn't have mattered. So, what is Bani's fault in there, please do enlighten me…Dont tell me Pia planned all these and JW would have given in only because Pia is in WM...that's not right

If JW did not inform Bani isn't it because he never got the time (bani may have in MA for only 2-3 days), his first priority was to head off the Pia marriage? Besides, he had to order a nice sherwani for himself for the wedding, na? Is there any evidence that once he had got the 6 months breathing space, he would never have explained anything to Bani. But Bani ran away b4 he cud explain anything (not that I blame her for it) Well, here not explaining to Bani is totally JW's mistake…circumstance can always be blamed for everything that happens around us…but then that is escapism to me…Infact, JW had more time, he always knew that Bani could be trouble anytime because of Pia, but what did he do to protect her? JW also keeps truth from Bani, how no one notices that…

Agreed that JW did not deal harshly with the trio. Maybe once Bani was dead, he simply gave up on the fight. Maybe it was just that his only priority was to live for his kids. But isn't it equally true that Bani hamstrung him by signing the adoption papers while in MA. Agreed that JW could have fought the legal battle with the trio but would it not have subjected the kids to the risk of a slow and prolonged legal battle. So if JW is guilty, isn't Bani equally so? Obvious, Bani is wrong in signing the paper…when a person is put in Jail/MA and blackmailed cruelly, she should sit there relaxed and say," you do what you want, I will not sign"…If a person who is outside, who has contacts, who could have atleast bothered to consult a lawyer before signing is not wrong but a person who is inside a MA, who has no contacts, who is already broken, signs the papers and that is the biggest mistakes…Besides, as I said earlier, JW is selfish- all that matters is his self-respect and his happiness. Didn't the same JW throw Pia out of WM house, when his self-respect was hurt when he came to know that he was raped? Even then, Pia had papers signed by Bani but then that time, it did not bother at all…He just threw her out because it was his self-respect…But now, he lets a person who destroyed the life of a person he claims to love and he does nothing…At least for Bani's self-respect, he could have done something na…nahhh, who bothers, anyways Bani is dead, so what right?…Even if a person is dead, why do you think people/loved ones fight to get murder punished, because it is a tribute the person they loved and cherished but with JW nothing and in fact he let them stay in the house with all luxury for five years Now, I am even doubting his love for Bani…

Besides, if JW is guilty of not punishing the trio isn't Bani even more guilty? While JW just allowed the witches to remain in WM (and remember Jigs and Karuna actually have a right on that house), Bani actually brought her hubby's repto rapist back into WM from where she belonged -in the gutters. Oh boy, bringing the rapist back into the house is a mistake, but keeping the people who were responsible for his wife's death, for making his children motherless, is not wrong…Oh dear, indeed, Bani is very wrong…Besides, Like I said, Pia being in WM or not being in WM wouldn't have mattered.

And if JW tolerated the witches it was because he was being blackmailed first by the VCD which cud have destroyed Bani's life and then by the adoption paper which cud have harmed the kids. Who was blackmailing Bani into keeping Pia at WM? Of course veteran Dixitologists like Mahim and Ash would argue that Bani was being blackmailed by a far more dangerous entity than Pia- St. Kdbhoot. Of course, JW keeps Sahil who he knew was scheming against Bani with Pia in WM before but then bringing Pia into WM is the biggest mistake. JW knew that Sahil was scheming against Bani, didn't he? If he truly loved Bani, he would have first gotten Sahil out of WM… While Bani allowed Pia into WM as she was not feeling well, With Sahil, JW had no obligations, so what stopped him from throwing him out? what stopped him, oh I forget, the house is not his, right?

If Bani does not know the truth it would be OK if she wreaks vengeance on him. But the moment she knows the truth (even if it happens b4 her revenge is over) she should humbly and unconditionally tender an apology for her assinine activities to JW and more importantly to Krishna and Atharva. Ya ya, she must fall in their legs and beg and beg everyday…one day will not suffice…she could beg Mightly JW everyday, so that her paap of making JW heartbroken all the time will not go…poor guy…god bless him.

Of course JW and the kids should be magnanimous enuff to pardon her given how much she has suffered in the past. Oh yeah, magnanimous JW, I just hope that Mr. Passive does not raise his hand to stop Bani from explaining.

My conclusion:

JW is not helpless – he is just passive about everything.

Bani bringing Pia into WM is of no use cos Pia could have made her moves even from outside.

JW having no time is escapism but hey I don't expect anything else than escapism from him.

Bani bringing in trouble, yes she did but JW is in a way responsible for that cos he concealed the fact that Pia and Sahil are after her…So I think JW and his passiveness is to be blamed for Bani bringing in trouble.

From you arguments, I feel that Bani deserves a much better person that Mr. Passive. Well, JW should have married Ms. Pia who is equally passive about everything that does not have anything to do with her. Now I know, why JW fell in love with Pia…Same qualities and same personality as his attracted him to Ms. Pia…Too bad and his bad luck that he ended up marrying a person totally not like him.Poor Munna...😆...

Cheers,
Meena

Edited by Je_aime - 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: majumdar


<P align=justify>The conventional belief on the IF is that JW has wronged Bani and that Bani should at least take some revenge against him b4 forgiving him and accepting him back. Now I can understand that Bani who does not know anything about what transpired feels angry with JW and wants to avenge herself on him. In fact if she was to destroy him, I would never hold it against her. What I find difficult to understand is how some people on the Forum who have all the facts with them think that "JW is guilty and largely responsible for the current mess" that "Bani should act pricey and give him a hard time" and that "some revenge against JW is justified".
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  • Charge# 1: JW is largely responsible for the current mess. He did little to save Bani from trouble. That he allowed Pia to blackmail him. That he snatched away her kids cruelly without explaining anything to her. Thanks to him, Bani has to spend five years in exile.


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  • Charge #2: He has done nothing to punish Pia, Jigs and Karuna in spite of knowing that they were responsible for framing her and "killing her"


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<P align=justify>Let us examine how valid these arguments are:
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<P align=justify>Background

Let's briefly recapitulate the flow of events.



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  • Mar 7: ACP Rajeev Mathur (RM) informs JW that Sahil's death may have been murder, not accident. JW asks him to take a hike, does not inform Bani. Bad? Maybe, but then Bani was preggie. The same day also RM informs Bani, who also asks him to take a hike.


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  • Mar 8: RM finds out that Sahil was poisoned, discusses this with TS.


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  • Mar 13: TS informs Bani and asks her not to discuss with JW. Bani of courses complies readily thus concealing from the head of the Walia household that a member of the family has been bumped off. And decides that henceforth she is going to snoop about with TS as her confidante. So what makes her select a brain dead lawyer who would have lost all three cases for the Walias had someone or the other not bailed him out. The simple fact that Bani does not trust someone unless he has backstabbed JW in the past- Pooch in PR raaz, TS in the Sahil raaz.

  • Unfair, Pri! The only time Pooch betrayed JW was when he ran away with Pri…though I'm sure Munna would consider that a huge favour now and not a betrayal ;)) Pooch has been a great friend and support to Bani, why would she give that up considering that Jai did forgive P-P anyway
    As for Skunk, well for all his faults he did support her post-ONS. Also Munna never cut ties with Skunky or forbade his family, let alone his wife from seeing TS. So why blame Bani for trusting him?



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  • Mar 14: RM searches WM in presence of TS/Bani. Find posion in Ranveer's room. However, neither of them bother to inform JW, why because of the khandaan's izzat. As to how the khandaan's izzat is saved by JW not knowing the truth, don't ask me. Rano-Ranveer marriage is just over. Ranveer is arrested.


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  • Mar 15: RM interrogates Ranveer and frees him. TS,Bani and Ranveer are back at WM, Bani conceals the fact of Ranveer's arrest.


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  • Mar 19: TS/Bani go about snooping and discussing Sahil murder case


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  • Mar 20: Shootout at party.


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  • Mar 21: TB do some more snooping, florist, Laxmi buying medicines etc. TS informs Bani that the assassination attempt was at her, not JW.


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  • Mar 22: JW goes to London completely oblivious of the fact that Sahil has been assassinated. BT are veiwing Sahil's video where he says that someone is trying to kill him.


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  • Mar 23: Camera malfunctions. Instead of handing it over to the police as evidence our jasoos duo decide to get it repaired on their own. Had they handed it over to police no doubt the police would have used it as evidence against Bani. OTOH Bani could have claimed that by handing over the tapes without manipulating it shows her good faith and innocence. No?

  • Nope! Knowing how asinine the police is, I doubt they would've believed her "show of good faith" anyways!


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  • Mar 27: St. Bani brings Pia back to WM.

  • In a past filled with stupid mistakes, this has to be Bani's biggest blooper till date. Wish I could've knocked her head over this

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  • Mar 28-29: Pia is snooping on TB.


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  • Mar 29: Video shop is burnt. We now know that it was burnt by Pia, who got her hands on the VCD. Would it be fair to say that Pia would never have found about the VCD had she not been brought back into WM and got a chance to snoop on TB.

  • Nope, as far as I can gather Pia's spent a fair time planning this. Being in WM made it easier for her to snoop, but she would've done that regardless of where she was. Since she's the all knowing-all seeing vamp

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  • Apr 3: JW protests Pia's presence in WM. Bani tells him that St. Kdbhoot and her repto rapist sister are more important than her marriage. TS tries to warn off Bani and is thrown out. TS does give JW some clue that Sahil was inded murdered and that there is a conspiracy against Bani. But isn't this too late and how much can he rely on the evidence of a certified lunatic.


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  • Apr 4: Bani is snooping, someone steals her bracelet, which is later placed in Jannat Apartment thus framing Bani. Bani of course does not bother to inform the police or JW or the insurance office. Would it be fair to see that Bani should have reported the theft of a rather expensive bracelet immediately and that would have proved in court that someone was trying to frame her.


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  • Apr 5: Bani goes to Jannat Aptt, sees Karuna there. Someone steals her plate to frame her.


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  • Apr 6: Bani finally fills up JW with all the details of the Sahil murder case.


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  • Apr 9: JB are back at WM. Pia gives JW MS to put back around her neck. RM matches Bani's fingerprint. Bani sees burkha wali chases him to Jannat and finds that it is JW. Now we know that Pia had blackmailed him to doing it.


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  • Apr 10: BW arrested, Adi informs us that no lawyer would fight her case.

  • B*llsh*t!! There was never yet a case built on more circumstantial evidence than this!! I could accept that some lawyers would hesitate to take up the challenge, but for the rich n powerful JW to be unable to find one competent lawyer in a country of billions is unbelievable


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  • Apr 11: BW confined to Jail after Munna testifies that she is mental. Wrong on JW's part but he was being blackmailed and had he told the truth wouldn't Bani be put to jail for 14 years.


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  • Apr 12: JW takes away her kids, Bani is sent to MA. Agreed it was very bad on JW's part but had he not taken the kid away they would have been put in MA. Would it have done the kids any good?

  • Well, that's debatable Pri especially considering that the three witches are still haunting WM! Separating a mother from her newborn babies is cruel and inhuman especially since it was done without any explanation. Don't defend the indefensible hun

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  • Apr 13: JW tries to kill Pia but she says that she has arranged for VCD to be sent to police. Rano tries to tell Pia the truth but the three witches bully her off.


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  • Apr 16: A nurse smuggles a mobile to Bani and she is singing a lullaby to the kids. Maasi who cud have told her the truth keeps mum. Hardly she has started singing that Pia and Jigs are there to warn the nurse.


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  • Apr 17: Bani escapes and sets off on her exile. You cannot blame her for doing that but how is JW responsible for her going into exile.


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  • Apr 18: JW prevents the marriage but Pia gets rights to stay at WM by showing him the paper where bani has given adoption rights for the kids. Bani goes away with AD.


Inferences


From the above can we draw the following inferences:



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  • By concealing the facts about Sahil's death, she did not exactly do anything to help JW find the real assassin. JW found about Sahil's death too late to do something serious about it.


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  • By bringing up Pia into WM did Bani not make it possible for Pia to get her hand on JW's neck and make it difficult for him to mount a good defence. In fact most of the evidence that was used to frame Bani were collected AFTER Pia was back in WM which suggests that it was Pia who helped frame Bani.


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  • Did not Bani's jasoosi and refusal to co-operate/share evidence with the police as a good citizen get her into trouble in the first place.


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  • The trio were marking Bani at Jail/MA very closely and had JW's message been intercepted, Bani would have been in big trouble.


Examining the Charges again:


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  • If JW is guilty for not doing anything to protect Bani, isn't Bani even more guilty for behaving in an irresponsible manner by keeping things from JW and police and believing in a rank idiot and certified backstabber like TS?

  • Like I've said before Jai did not cut off ties with TS until he found out about his OCD after which Bani stopped liaising with him as well. And yes her jasoosi skills do leave much to be desired, but Munna could've done a lot more to protect his wife. For starters he could have tried to use his admittedly limited brains to try and save his wife from the gallows! Why was the loony bin the only other option? How did he not manage to find her a lawyer, when even seasoned criminals get legal represenatation?
    How does a 45 year old high flying businessman allow himself to be meekly led around the nose by someone like Pia?



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  • If JW allowed himself to be blackmailed by Pia, is Bani not even more guilty of getting the great Pia (who had twice been kicked out by JW himself) back into WM in the first place where she could blackmail JW and Bani?

  • Absolutely right. Will not defend the indefensible here!

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  • If JW did not inform Bani isn't it because he never got the time (bani may have in MA for only 2-3 days), his first priority was to head off the Pia marriage? Besides, he had to order a nice sherwani for himself for the wedding, na?😉 Is there any evidence that once he had got the 6 months breathing space, he would never have explained anything to Bani. But Bani ran away b4 he cud explain anything (not that I blame her for it)

  • Looking at Munna's track record and Pia's apparently all knowing-all seeing nature it doesn't seem likely that he would've been able to even whisper the truth. And yes planning the wedding that didn't happen…or maybe did since everyone seems to call her Mrs Pia Walia and no one steps in to correct that!


#2:



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  • Agreed that JW did not deal harshly with the trio. Maybe once Bani was dead, he simply gave up on the fight. Maybe it was just that his only priority was to live for his kids. But isn't it equally true that Bani hamstrung him by signing the adoption papers while in MA. Agreed that JW could have fought the legal battle with the trio but would it not have subjected the kids to the risk of a slow and prolonged legal battle. So if JW is guilty, isn't Bani equally so?

  • JW had the option of fighting a legal battle. With Bani "safe" in the loony bin why didn't he do that? How does having someone as evil as Pia as your children's guardian a better choice than fighting a legal battle?

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  • Besides, if JW is guilty of not punishing the trio isn't Bani even more guilty? While JW just allowed the witches to remain in WM (and remember Jigs and Karuna actually have a right on that house), Bani actually brought her hubby's repto rapist back into WM from where she belonged -in the gutters.

  • See, this is something I don't understand at all. Why does he let those witches haunt his home? What right to Jiggs and Karuna have on the house anyways? Once Bani was dead, he apparently devoted himself to bringing up his children right, so doesn't having the very people responsible to their mother's death in the vicinity of the kids negate the entire effort?
    One would've thought the very sight of Jiggs-Karuna would be anathema to JW na?



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  • And if JW tolerated the witches it was because he was being blackmailed first by the VCD which cud have destroyed Bani's life and then by the adoption paper which cud have harmed the kids. Who was blackmailing Bani into keeping Pia at WM? Of course veteran Dixitologists like Mahim and Ash would argue that Bani was being blackmailed by a far more dangerous entity than Pia- St. Kdbhoot.


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  • So if Bani's supporters now accuse JW of not punishing her tormentors, would it not been a case of the supporters of a pot calling the kettle black?


Now of course, Bani's kartoots have gotten her into trouble into big time which is OK as she has the right to screw up her own life. But why has she screwed up the lives of innocent bystanders:



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  • A strapping young lad like my poor Munna has had to live like a vidhwa at the tender age of 45. And I am sure thanks to Rano and St. Billo's watchful eyes, he has not been able to get anysupport fromhis elder saali, either.😉

  • Bechaara Munna….my heart bleeds 😉

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  • Poor Krishna and Atharva (the kids who fondly call you guys buas/pishima/phuphijaan😉) have all grown up without a Mom.

  • They've grown up with three great role models though…Jiggs-Pia-Karuna, all thanks to their dad 😉

<P align=justify>Of course I am not suggesting that JW or Bani are responsible for the current mess. That honour goes to the Mr. X who framed her in the first place (either Sahil or some unknown person, my vote goes to Adbhoot) followed by his agents- the three witches. But if some residual blame has to be attached to our beloved jodi, the lion's share of that part must go to Amma, not Buddha. While Buddha may have been at worst passive when confronted with trouble and that too because he was being blackmailed, Amma actually invited trouble in the first place.

Conclusion


In IMHO the following:



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  • If JW is guilty of nothing that Bani hasn't done herself, so why r many of those who know all the facts calling for revenge against him?


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  • JW should tell Bani the truth at the first possible moment. But he should not apologise (too much) as he has nothing much to apologise about it. And he should stop feeling guilty about himself.


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  • If Bani does not know the truth it would be OK if she wreaks vengeance on him. But the moment she knows the truth (even if it happens b4 her revenge is over) she should humbly and unconditionally tender an apology for her assinine activities to JW and more importantly to Krishna and Atharva.


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  • And pakro her kaan and swear to stay off BJBB actitivities in the future.


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  • Of course JW and the kids should be magnanimous enuff to pardon her given how much she has suffered in the past.


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  • Finally of course join hands to get even with Adbhoot and the three witches.


Rgds,


Priyanka


Great post Pri...livened up my Monday and no one defends Munna better than you 😆
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Posted: 18 years ago
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pri, updated my post.
swati

meena, just loved ur answers and fully agree with u.

swati
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Pri,

what a mindblowiing post. you are 100% correct with your analysis - a very MT type of post -
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Meena...

(JW actually lied in the court and got an innocent person in jail for the crime she did not commit)......
They do this usually many times when someone is framed ya cant be saved they prove that person mad to save him from further punishment and I want to point out that ADI went around asking lawyers and many flatly refused saying the case was weak.

(Jigs in WM to gather clues)...
Jiggs is not a formidable enemy its PIA and moreover jiggs is UW daughter so in a way she has shares in WC and sharwe over her mom's house,as per laws once behaviour plays no role in claiming property

(Oh boy, bringing the rapist back into the house is a mistake, but keeping the people who were responsible for his wife's death, for making his children motherless, is not wrong )........
As per might K-Laws two big time duffers signed some kind of papers which kinda gives a reptalian creep status of lawful mother and it happens she got bani sign back dated papers.

(If he truly loved Bani, he would have first gotten Sahil out of WM…)..........
Strangley sahhil happens to be bani's sister Rano ka pati dev if saahil out Rano will also leave WM and come what may bani would giv JW sleepless nights on this account.

(Bani bringing in trouble, yes she did but JW is in a way responsible for that cos he concealed the fact that Pia and Sahil are after her… ).........
remember well he did tell her that sahil and pia are scheming togethere and she tells him to mind his own business as she wants peace in her house

(I feel that Bani deserves a much better person that Mr. Passive…)...........
agree maybe AD bhoot and TS or puppy pooch even better would be Mohan ya maybe a new char some other hottie and u can take my word his life would alos hav been turned upside down

Yest in KWK EK told this in HINDI movie People Idolise HERO and Fantasize HERIONE but in SOAPS its juts the opposite here u Idolise HERIONE and Fanatsize HERO as none wants to be tulsi,parvathi but haan everyone wants a husband like JW ,RB and son like KV
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was first fooled by his own sister and then pia too and then made a stupid plan to save bani instead of coming up with some great plan. why he was not able to explain bani in private the reason for hsi behavior.
***Can u pls tell me when did Jigs fool him? Did Bani even give any chance to JW to know about Jigs truth? I think he would hv handled in a different way! Till date, Munna is not aware that it was great Ranveer and Jigs who framed him to do the signature for the whole property, but thanks to Amma, who lost her kid in this process of saving property (I know it was to save Munna's life, but she didn't think it was good to advice the responsible people about it)!
And as far as getting fooled by Pia is concern, don't u think JW had handled in her way and had thrown her out of WM without caring for himself, but what happens, Amma brings back for the kasams given to her dead parents and JW gets framed again due to Bani! Because he cannot stop loving Munni nor does he think beyond her! I think he would hv got applauds from Bani supporters, if he wouldn't hv given himself for the blackmailing and should hv allowed Pia to prove Bani as the murderer! It would hv made him a MAN rite?

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