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Posted: 11 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: Arshics



trupti. When your post comes up I am already in office. I read them on phonebut oft cant reply. Sorry dear. Just timing ka chakkar


Hey Arshiji
Don't say sorry I completely understand we have different time zones.
But now i am feeling very bad that i complained and you have to say sorry.
Looking forward for todays bytes.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: Arshics

I wanted to just clarify a few things her esp to Trina and Simmer and to all others too

1. This annoyance with the present Mumbai nahi jaoongi is not against Gautam and Jen
, so gauti Jen fans please chill

2. It's not even against Saras and Kumud really, because the writers have not allowed these characters to emerge and grow with a consistency

3. It's against the writers who are vacillating in their own interpretation of Saras and Kumud. Who have not sat down and figure out how a couple who have died for each other more than once, will relate to each other

4. The writers have also not figured out how inconsistent with Saras and Kumud's maturity and strength of personality is this shallow behavior from Kumud

5. The annoyance also stems from disappointment of a promise that was - a relationship of equals among two strong individuals who will love each other passionately and intensely and who will also retain their independence through it all, the two being complimentary and not conflicting.

6. I do feel very strongly that Kumud's behavior starting from kusum track has been negative towards Saras, and very need based, she calls out to him when she needs him, and cold or snubbing him otherwise

7. The writers have not been able to manage the complexity of this mature relationship at all and her denigrated it to a superficial marriage with no real connect between Saras and Kumud



😊...@bold I didn't think you were making comments on JENAM, I saw an IV of JENNY where she herself is not aware why Kumud is saying NO to Mumbai.

I haven't seen Gautam's or Jenny's work before this show, I fell in love with Saras and Kumud's characters first and then with JENAM becoz they bring these characters to life so effortlessly.

It pains me to see my strong, loving, fiesty KUMUD reduced to what ever level she is in today but still hope there should be some reason behind her every action 😊.

I read your bytes everyday just to know how others are seeing the same things that I see(but not before I watch the episode though, I don't want my views to be affected some other's interpretation).

😊 sometimes we both feel the same way and sometimes not, but I do look forward to know your take. Whether we agree or disagree I think all of us in this forum are tied with our common love for the SHOW.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: Arshics

I wanted to just clarify a few things her esp to Trina and Simmer and to all others too

1. This annoyance with the present Mumbai nahi jaoongi is not against Gautam and Jen
, so gauti Jen fans please chill I do not think your topic was remotely against Gautam and Jen, so you can please chill. I am already chilled. =)

2. It's not even against Saras and Kumud really, because the writers have not allowed these characters to emerge and grow with a consistency. I see that it's not against Saras and Kumud, but some other members may not read it as liberally as I do.

3. It's against the writers who are vacillating in their own interpretation of Saras and Kumud. Who have not sat down and figure out how a couple who have died for each other more than once, will relate to each other. Is it not realistic that a couple who have died for each other more than once at least are honest enough to disagree from time to time? Or should they pretend to agree when they dont?

4. The writers have also not figured out how inconsistent with Saras and Kumud's maturity and strength of personality is this shallow behavior from Kumud. Kumud could have stood back and let Guman's secret stay as it was, but she put her own safety on the line so she could free everyone from this woman and she could have equally allowed Saras to go to London by himself to look for his missing brother and stayed in the comfort of her home and family but she didn't do either. Kumud has more than once put others before her, she looks after her father, she told everyone the truth about Kalika and her behavior in Pramad's house. Her one act of wanting to spend some time in peace with her family that she hasn't really seen in weeks is "shallow"? I wonder, how many of us would want to fly off to Mumbai for business opportunities without a word in the wake of the events which unfolded in the past couple of weeks? We still don't know her actual reasons for not wanting to go, because he hasn't asked her to her face. All we know is that he is annoyed she is refusing to go. Did you see how concerned the entire family acted when they all thought Kumud would be a mother? So as funny as it was that it was a false alarm, wouldn't it make sense that the girl would want just a little time to absorb whatever she and her husband were forced to go through? I would think it a little odd that anyone in her situation would want to rush to Mumbai just because her husband has a project there. She never said, "I will NEVER leave Ratnagiri", she just said she didn't want to leave. Meaning, the girl needs time. And when Kumud's and his entire family are trying to force her to go with him instead of understanding how much she has been through, wouldn't anyone be even more angered by this? Everyone's taking his side. Even Saras was not captured and forced to perform for free in front of a bunch of perfect strangers. Marriage is about give and take, and Saras not wanting to find out why she needs to stay feels a bit wrong.

5. The annoyance also stems from disappointment of a promise that was - a relationship of equals among two strong individuals who will love each other passionately and intensely and who will also retain their independence through it all, the two being complimentary and not conflicting.

6. I do feel very strongly that Kumud's behavior starting from kusum track has been negative towards Saras, and very need based, she calls out to him when she needs him, and cold or snubbing him otherwise. Kumud always supported Saras finding his brother and even when he was discouraged, she was there for him. She could have let him go all the way to London by himself, but she didn't, she put her own life on the line willingly for him. The one time she was "cold" as you call it, was when Saras went off with the foreign girl and didn't listen to her about avoiding her. She was justifiably annoyed. She knows Saras would never go off with the girl socially, but he didn't take her word for it that she was bad news. When she was tied up, she told Saras to save his brother instead and fulfill his mother's dream. Kumud could have easily said she is his wife and to free her first and he would have listened. She didn't want Saras going off in a foreign country all by himself and having noone to support him, even at her own expense. Saras himself admitted he couldn't have found his brother without Kumud, and his own father gave her the credit for restoring the family. Maybe if Saras just said he couldn't live apart from her, instead of faking all of this housework he would have a point. And if he gave her time to consider it rather than just trying to argue with her.

If Danny or another family member was in trouble in Mumbai, she would be on the next flight out with Saras to save them. Kumud's current behavior right now stems from the fact that he doesn't understand she has no wish to be isolated from her loved ones, even if Saras needs to bring Kabir and Danny closer or profit from a new business. Even after he dumped her on the day of engagement, and led her to a fake marriage to save her father's name, she still forgave him. When Saras tried to make his own food, she offered to help but he refused. When he burnt his hand on the stove, she was the one who was worried and not cold as you say. When he hurt his back in the room, she was genuinely concerned, in spite of her own unwillingness to leave. All of this in a house where noone has asked once Kumud's intentions for wanting to stay. She doesn't want to follow Saras to a new city as his personal maid. Excuse her for having an identity.

7. The writers have not been able to manage the complexity of this mature relationship at all and her denigrated it to a superficial marriage with no real connect between Saras and Kumud




It's a very interesting debate you've raised, thanks for sharing. =) No offense to Saras and Kumud fans.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#34
😊...Good points, there is always a different view and angle for every action and situation.

Out of all the possibilities it is what we choose to believe that is going to help us understand a person or a character or a situation.

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