H.M.T Vs. Rolex - Page 3

Originally posted by: vm17

the problem is teachers in schools try to teach english through translation.most of the teachers themselves don't bother about pronounciation.Languages are skill based subjects.Buy in schools the students mug up answers to questions of the lesson.the students don't learn the language they simply want to score marks.Also the habit of reading books is dying since kids prefer to watch serials.Forget about english kids can't write or express themselves in hindi either.

we used to read lots of story books and our language improved.

In schools language is not considered to be important.KIDs take up science as everybody wants to be engineer.

Originally posted by: neenabinu

Superb topic of discussion Gita...

learning a new language is always a added benefit depending on where u reside...

English language is used widely in India and also most of the countries which were under the british rule once a upon a time.

Fluent knowledge of spoken and written English is a pre requisite for many jobs but not a must for all...

knowing your mother tongue is also very important to keep in touch with your culture and heritage ...

Originally posted by: ...Tanu...

Well I was disappointed with the CVs since they Sanam as not knowing English. No not because she should know, but because living in Villages & studying in Govt schools does not mean one does not know English.

Sanam was shown as being able to read simple english, but she didn't have spoken english skills. That's exactly the point of my post. Students not only in villages, but also vernacular medium schools in cities, face this difficulty while trying for jobs. Sanam was just looking for a waitress job. In case of a office job, it becomes all the more difficult.

My ancestral house is in a village. I have my cousins living there & I know it. Sanam might not have gone for higher studies, but that does not mean she should not know English. Come on Govt schools teach English, I am very much sure about that. My neighbour who cracked ssc exam was given a job in a village school. She didn't go there after that. Moreover Dilshad seemed to be an educated person. Why wouldn't she help in educating Sanam. And Sanam does surf the internet for recipes & all.

Yes, Govt. schools teach english. But it does not cultivate english speaking. Dilshad, not education Sanam in english medium school, well that's a question for the CVs? Maybe since Haya needs to go to special needs school, Dilshad could'nt afford to send Sanam to english medium schools.

About whether knowing English is important or not, some people say yes & some people say no. Yes it is necessary for getting jobs, but for that a basic English knowledge can be done with. But then it is for some profession. Others do not need it.

It depends on the job too.

I am not talking about the world, but in India yes, English is given importance. One has to go to English medium schools, otherwise what has the person learnt etc ,etc. Yes some people have this kind of idea. I have often seen today's children chatting only in English with friends, with parents. It is definitely a matter of concern because they are having less & less touch with their mother tongue.

Actually, even the schools suggest that parents should talk to their kids in english at home. It has its pros and cons. Can't really decide whether it is good or not? By default I speak in my mother tongue with my kids. But now, since they have learnt the mother tongue, I communicate more in English.

I do feel living in your own country & not knowing your mother tongue is shameful. Parents should encourage their children to respect & learn their mother tongue. My parents were very clear about it. I went to an English medium school & my parents said whatever you do use English when you are home. That I never spoke in English even in school among my friends except for conversing with teachers is a different thing. 😆

Now when I am doing higher studies as a student of English 😆 I am realising the importance of the literature produced in my mother tongue. Because often while teaching our professors make references to work produced in our mother tongue. In most of the cases I find myself in a difficult situation because I have never read those books. And it is then I find it shameful. Once I remember one of our professors quoted few lines from Gitanjali & asked us did you all read it? We were like no. He was so angry & gave a good lecture & our heads were bent down for the rest of the class. Now I am realising how my mother tongue is important in my degree courses.

But so say whether our regional language is becoming extinct is a bit early stage. Because we still do have it as a compulsory language in our school level.

That's it. Its a compulsory language in state boards. It is not even compulsory in CBSE and ICSE. A few years down the line, there will be only a handful who can read and write in regional languages and further down, there won;t be any.

How many can read and write Sanskrit in today's India?

But yeah despite me being a student of English, my favourite language is my mother tongue. 😃

Because most of the time I speak in that language.

My sphere of work is in English. All my reading and writing and even thinking is in English. So, my fav language is English. My mother tongue, I can speak well, read average, and write with difficulty. So, there's a lot of literature out there that I missed reading. Yes, knowing your mother tongue and being proficient in reading and writing in it must be encouraged.

Originally posted by: bbbccc

Its should never be important to speak English over their own national language for any country but for India this isn't true :(

And knowing good English and speaking fluently is again two different things. Chinese prefer their kids knowing their language over English any day but we are different :(.

Chinese have not been ruled by British per se. We have been. Maybe that's why we have English fixation.

Sanam may know English well but cannot speak that well..

I read on your post and others people complaining for everything, leap thinking it should be now 2020, really if that's way things works then wonder what PR are showing and how people are taking it, I guess fine as its still running and there it should be 2050 by now, and from few glimpses I didn't see much difference. Why we cannot think QH1 2000 because it showed IPhone and IPad, really? We take most fiction well so why complain here..

About PR, I agree, it should be 2050 by now. Makers are entitled to their creative liberty and viewers are entitled to their criticism.😊

And then how Sanam reached Bhopal in few hours, what if she left place a night early? Not every scene matters how started, but really how ended, they met at Bhopal and that's all mattered. if they showed it too early the scene might have lost the momentum.

They had to show Sanam leaving Moga when the family is sleeping. They also had to show Sanam reaching Bhopal at night for the dupatta meeting. So, they overlooked the distance-time calculations. You know in Mahabharata, it took nearly 7 or 10 days for Bharath to reach Ayodhya after the news of Dashrath's death. And Bharath was at some place in Afghanistan, which was Kaikeyee's maayka. And when the modern day historians calculated, it took exactly the number of days mentioned for a horse to travel from Ayodhya to that place and back. So much for details in storytelling. But CVs need to pay attention to details in storytelling. Too much of pushing things under the carpet is also not good.

I am bitter on QH1 too but that doesn't mean I will complain on everything, why more cast, why not this, why not that..

QH2 is quite on track till now. A lot of cast left, and a lot of cast has been added. EOD, they need more characters for side tracks to play.

I love the idea of more cast, watched PV and they butchered the serial with bare minimum cast, first butcher male protagonist then female and then ping pong until I gave up. I would prefer small tracks with more people to rotate the story than stuck on some. Actors leave and leaves us in all mad, didn't that happen in QH1, so its better they are given short tracks so they happy and in end so are we..

Long post and way beyond discussion sorry, but just makes me sad, most of us love QH still and watch but are completely sarcastic for everything..

Everyone has their own way of loving Qh. Some complain, some become sarcastic, some get angry, some appreciate, some understand, and some let go. But all love QH or did love QH at some point of time.😊

Originally posted by: nautanki_anu

Excellent post Gitey 👏 and thought provoking too.

I personally feel that the regional language and English should peacefully co-exist in us. While I see no problem with regoinal school education I do feel basic English and conversational English should be taught in all regional schools. Ppl from rural areas mostly move to cities for work after graduation as there are not too many options in villages and not too many jobs either. In cities, English is widely spoken and is the business language hence basic English knowledge is important. Of course it also depends on what kind of job one would want to take up and whether one would be required to speak/know English for that job.

Having said that not knowing English is not a crime and it's perfectly fine to educate oneself in their regional language. Ppls attitudes need to change. Sadly even today a lot of ppl who are educated in their regional language are looked down upon and called 'Vernis' and what not by certain ROLEXs. And these same ROLEXs have the audacity to call some other countries racist!!!

Please note ppl I have said 'certain' ROLEXs not all. Just clarifying lest some ppl pounce on me 😆.