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Justitia

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Posted: 11 years ago

Hello Folks!😛😛

A warm welcome to you all.🤗

There has been much debate on this forum about who is Panchali's Pati No. 1. Who of the Pandavas loved her the most. This post will not answer that question for you.😆 Draupadi does not appear to have kept tally..😕.alternately, Rishi Veda Vyas had more important details to note then who got what flowers for Mahabharat's Yagaseni.😆😆 So while many may acclaim Bheem to be Pati No. 1 without a full record and analysis of the Pandavas marriage to Panchali 👎🏼we cannot really assess who was truly PANCHALI'S PATI NO.1. But, friends let us not lose heart. 😳While we cannot judge history, which remains a mystery, we can TRACK THE PRESENT and have our own analysis.👍🏼So,presenting to you all:😎

Starbharat Paanchaali Patiyogita

Key Points of This Analysis

1.We will keep a running tally of the care, concern, connection each of the Pandava Princes express for their Patni Panchali in StarBharat. 😳

2.We will try to score the candidates objectively. For further details please see post 2. 🤓

3.We welcome your post episode input daily on which princes should be awarded points and why. 👍🏼

4.The score for the most recent episode will be updated in the 3rd post along with rationales.⭐️

5.Progress Graph: Shyam09 will chart the progress of the princes in post 5 and post updates on an weekly basis at the end of the week. 😉

6.PATI of the Week: ...Poojie... assess this weekly on Sundays. Please check 4th post for details. 😛

7.Awards for the Pati Of The Week: Abhishek_King will provide banners for the POWs.Shyam09 will provide trophies for them. Special Icons or Avis will also be there too.😊😊

8.Standout Performer Of The Week: ...Poojie... assess this also weekly on Sundays. Shyam09 generally makes gifs on the scenes of SOWs.😳😳

State of Competition Now:

Scoring Table shifted to Post 2 (see below post)

Scores for first week: Y=10.96, B=9.46, A=11.96, N=2.80, S=2.80

Scores for 2nd week: Y=25.72, B=17.72, A=15.72, N=5.90, S=5.40

Scores for 3rd week:: Y=29.42, B=18.42, A=19.42, N=7.10, S=9.60

Scores for 4th week: Y=45.92, B=26.92, A=33.42, N=7.10, S=10.60

Scores for 5th week: Y=52.16, B=30.16, A=47.41, N=7.35, S=10.85

Scores for 6th week: Y=78.36, B=32.89, A=40.61, N=10.08, S=13.88

Pre-Stake on April 3/14: Y=76.11, B=43.14, A=47.86, N=16.18, S=15.98

Scores for 7th week: Y=73.00, B=54.34, A=48.77, N=11.33, S=14.03

Pre-VH on April 8/14: Y=70.72, B=52.58, A=49.01, N=5.51, S=8.21

Scores for 8th week: Y=90.44, B=67.02, A=70.27, N=14.35, S=15.34

Scores for 9th week: Y=139.38, B=107.87, A=109.33, N=50.69, S=34.82

Scores for 10th week: Y=162.02, B=161.09, A=178.27, N=65.96, S=48.90

Scores for 11th week: Y=174.36, B=169.63, A=165.86, N=69.06, S=51.75

Rules:

1.This is a fun post - hopefully your sentiments are strong enough survive some lighthearted humor.😆😆

2.So, if you want to argue why your favorite prince should get more points or another less then please press your case. Unlike King Dhrit we promise to hear first judge later.😉

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Sabhayata

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Posted: 11 years ago

State of Competition Now:

Pandava Princes	Total to Date	Daily Score	Updated Total
1. Yuddhi	176.56	1.33	177.89
2. Bheem	171.13	1.33	172.46
3. Arjun	181.79	1	182.79
4. Nakul	72.59	1.33	73.92
5. Sahadev	53.28	1	54.28

Positive Pati Points 1. Care n Concern: if a prince expresses care or concern for Panchali he will earn a point. This includes things like asking her opinion, holding her hand on rough geographic terrain, helping her down from chariots, etc. The expression need not be verbal - looks of concern will be valued.

2. Communication n Connectivity: Princes will also be awarded a point for maintaining communication with Princess Panchali - be it verbal or non-verbal (i.e. eye locks, nods, etc.).

3. Honour: Each prince will earn a point for defending their Panchali's honour either verbally or in deed (i.e. killing/punishing those who have insulted her).

4. Gifting: Princes will earn points for gifts.

5. Make Up: Princes will be also be awarded point for efforts they make to sooth Panchali's hurt feelings when she is upset or mad.

6. Mark Sharing: If an act is shared by more than one prince then the point - i.e. giving Draupadi adhikaar to go to Bhisma or gathering firewood then the marks will be split by the princes involved.

7.Objections:Any objections to the scoring of a particular episode must be raised before the next episode is aired

Negative Marks
1.Staking the Princess

2.Not objecting to her being staked

3.Marrying another Princess post marriage to Panchali*

4.Bringing home another Princess post marriage

5.Romantic moments with other Princesses**

6.Violating vows to her

Peace negotiation scoring scheme

1. Here Negative Marking should be reserved for disagreeing with Panchali. What is disagreement? Deciding to do opposite of whatever she wants.

2. The exception to above should be that if she wants peace and is sacrificing her wish for justice and Pandav don't agree with her. Then they should not be negatively marked. Why? Because they remain true to her cause of justice.

Application:

1. P wants peace & Pandav want war ==> Positive

2. P wants war & Pandav want peace ==> Negative

*Please note - negative points will be awarded for other wives only if they are specifically shown or mentioned in StarBharat.

**Children symbolize a romantic moment with mom, so any children with another wife post-Panchali will be a negative point.

***Loving children will never ever garner any pati negative points.

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Justitia

@Justitia

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: ...Poojie...
Y B A N S Grading Analysis - May 7
0.33 0.33
0.33
YBN look at P when P asks Drupad where are her sons? A and S can't be seen to be sure whether they were looking at her or not.
1 1 1 1 1 YBANS turn around when P starts walking..I think they are looking at the door.. There are multiple shots of it.

YBANS smiling at Upa-pandavas words to Panchali. No marks. They are smiling at their words. Again smiling at the group hug...I think no marking again. Objections welcome.

No more interactions.

1.33
1.33
1
1.33
1
Total Tally

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Pooja Menon

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Posted: 11 years ago

~~~~~PATI OF THE WEEK~~~~~

~~WINNER~~

Week 11 - PATI OF THE WEEK - EMPEROR YUDHISTHIR

Scores for the week:

Yudi - (174.36- 162.02) = 12.34

Bheem - (169.93 - 161.09) = 8.84

Arjun - (165.86 - 178.27) = (-12.41)

Nakul - (69.06 - 65.96) = 3.1

Sahadev - (51.75 - 48.90) = 2.85

Growth:

Yudi - ((174.36- 162.02)/162.02) = 0.08

Bheem - ((169.93 - 161.09)/161.09) = 0.06

Arjun - ((165.86 - 178.27)/178.27) = (-0.07)

Nakul - ((69.06 - 65.96)/65.96) = 0.05

Sahadev - ((51.75 - 48.90)/48.90) = 0.06

Ranking: Yudi = 5, Sahadev = 4, Bheem = 3, Nakul = 2, Arjun = 1

Standout Performance: Bheem gets 10 points for not forgetting about Panchali's insults when Yudi says to let go of everything and going back to forest.

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJcRlSUJvr0[/YOUTUBE]

Credit for the video: Shyam09

Yudi = 12.34(0.45) + 5(0.45) + 0(0.1) = 7.80

Bheem = 8.84(0.45) + 3(0.45) + 10(0.1) = 6.33

Arjun = (-12.41)(0.45) + 1(0.45) + 0(0.1) = (-5.14)

Nakul = 3.1(0.45) + 2(0.45) + 0(0.1) = 2.3

Sahadev = 2.85(0.45) + 4(0.45) + 0(0.1) = 3.1

Hence Yudi is the winner!! 😊

Credit for the trophy: Shyam09

Credit for the gifs: chippedcupofchai/Tumblr

Credit for the banner: Abhishek_King

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Pooja Menon

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Posted: 11 years ago

~~~~~PATI OF THE WEEK~~~~~
~~~~CALCULATIONS FOR THE PATI OF THE WEEK~~~~

PATI OF THE WEEK = HIGHEST POINTS + BEST GROWTH OVER THE WEEK + STANDOUT PERFORMANCE

Weightage: 45% (Highest points) + 45% (Best Growth) + 10% (Standout Performance)

For calculating Highest points, we will multiply each candidate's points by 0.45 (45%). From week 3 onwards, we would only be factoring the weekly performance and not the total till date. So highest points = This week's score - last week's score.

For calculating Best Growth, we will be ranking them, for. eg. if Nakul grew the most he gets 5, Sahadev next so he gets 4..etc. We will then multiply the rank number by 0.45 (45%). To calculate the best growth, we will be using this equation =( (This week's total - Last week's total)/ Last week's total)

For calculating standout performance, the one chosen candidate will be earn fixed 10 points which when multiplied by 0.1 (10%) will get him an extra 1 point.

Adding these three figures will get us the grand total and the one with the highest figure is the winner. 😊

Example: Credit goes to Anjana

Hypothetical situation

Scores for the week: Arjun 10 pts, Nakul 8, Bheem 6

Standout performance: Bheem gets 10 pts

Growth = if Nakul grew most he is given 5, Arjun 2, Bheem 1

Arjuna = 10(.45) + 2 X.45 + 0 (0.10) = 5.4

Nakul= 8 (.45) + 5 X 0.45 +0 (0.10) = 5.85

Bheem= 6 (.45)+ 1 X 0.45 + 10(0.10) = 4.15

So, winner is Nakul!

~~WINNERS~~
Please check the calculations for each week on the respective Pg Nos.

Week 1 - PATI OF THE WEEK - PRINCE ARJUN (Pg 13)

Week 2 - PATI OF THE WEEK- CROWN PRINCE YUDHISTHIR (Pg 41)

Week 3 - PATI OF THE WEEK - PRINCE SAHADEV(Pg 61)

Week 4 - PATI OF THE WEEK - KING YUDHISTHIR (Pg 101)

Week 5 - PATI OF THE WEEK - PRINCE ARJUN (Pg 132)

The Pg Nos till Week 5 corresponds to this thread:

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/mahabharat/3926703/starbharat-panchalis-patiyogita-p-142-yuddhi-10-ahead

Week 6 - PATI OF THE WEEK - EMPEROR YUDHISTHIR (Pg 31)

Week 7 - PATI OF THE WEEK- DAAS BHEEM (Pg 112)

The Pg Nos of Week 6-7 corresponds to this thread:

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/mahabharat/3962172/starpanchalis-patiyogita-p142-pre-vastra-haran-tally

Week 8 - PATI OF THE WEEK- PRINCE ARJUN (Pg 39)

Week 9 - PATI OF THE WEEK - PRINCE YUDHISTHIR (Pg 132)

The Pg Nos of Week 8-9 corresponds to this thread:

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/mahabharat/3980069/starpanchalis-patiyogita-p-130-news-p-132-n-is-sow-n-y-da-pow

Week 10 - PATI OF THE WEEK - PRINCE ARJUN (Pg 90)

Week 11 - PATI OF THE WEEK - EMPEROR YUDHISTHIR (Pg 133)

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guenhwyvar

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Posted: 11 years ago

Dharma-Ke-Pratik: Yuddhistira

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Vrikodhara: Bhimasen

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Gandeeva Dhari: Arjunnaaa

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The Handsome and Dashing: Nakula

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Phoorvabhasing Pati: Sahadeva

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Sabhi Pratiyogitas Overall (updated/replaced weekly)

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Eeny, meeny, miny, moe...

catch a pati by the toe...

if he hollers let 'em go ...

my Draupadi says to pick the very best one and ...

Nakul is it!!!

🤣

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Nripendra

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Posted: 11 years ago

Dharmaraj Yudhisthira

Vrikodara Bheem

Gaandivadhaari Arjuna

Saundaryavaan Nakula

Poorvabhashi Sahadeva

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Sabhayata

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Posted: 11 years ago

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pg144

Y	B	A	N	S	Grading Analysis - May 7
0.33	0.33		0.33		YBN look at P when P asks Drupad where are her sons? A and S can't be seen to be sure whether they were looking at her or not.
1	1	1	1	1	YBANS turn around when P starts walking..I think they are looking at the door.. There are multiple shots of it.
					YBANS smiling at Upa-pandavas words to Panchali. No marks. They are smiling at their words. Again smiling at the group hug...I think no marking again. Objections welcome.
					No more interactions.

1.33	1.33	1	1.33	1	Total Tally

pg 141
Scoring for 6th may 2014

all points for arjuna only

	Arjuna
	1	when draupadi says I promise not to stop you from going to war arjuna looks back at her
	1	for proud look to draupadi
	0	since arjuna walks towards both subhi and draupadi so point is negated
	1	for looking at draupadi when she says if you and your brother's get hurt then it will be our loss
	0	abhimanyu looks at subhi then looks at arjuna
	1	to arjuna for looking happy when panchali says it is enough if you follow yudi's order's(although its not clear who he is looking at I am assuming its panchali since she is speaking)
	1	for looking at draupadi when she picks up the bracelet
	3	for his eyelocks with panchali when she says that with this bracelet I am tying panadavs to you for your safety(since there are 3 shots)
	1	for looking at draupadi when she proceds to tie the bracelet
	-1	for the small eyelock with subhi
	0	arjuna gives a proud look when drauapdi is tying the bracelet since both(abhi and drauapdi) of them are in the same frame its not clear who he is looking at
	0	bracelet breaks both subhi and drauapadi look at arjuna and arjuna looks up at them both so point negated
total	8

pg 139

Y	B	A	N	S	Grading Analysis - May 5 (Draft 2)
0.20	0.20	0.20	0.20	0.20	Pandavs stop when Panchali says stop. Arjun's surprised look. Since they all react to her voice, it is going to be a split point. Panchali was not present at that point in time.
0.25	0.25		0.25	0.25	Yudi and Bheem look at her when she comes out. Wide shot shows Nakul and Sahadev looking at her too.
1					Eyelock between Yudi-Panchali when she says she will do the swagat first.
		-0.6			Arjun was looking at P. Then Arjun-Subhadra eyelock. Then looks at Panchali. (-1 + 0.4) At this time all 5 are looking at her but since arjun is only shown hence it is split point.
0.5	0.5				Yudi-Bheem look at her as she starts to walk out.
0.25	0.25		0.25	0.25	YBNS look at her taking out the bow.
			0.33	0.33	NS look at her shooting the arrow.
		0.33			Arjun looks at her shooting the arrow.
		-1			Arjun-Subhi 2nd eyelock
		1			Arjun's smile when Panchali says before entering first tell me who you are?
			1		Nakul looks at her says Panchali, he is Subhadra's son
		1	1		Nakul looks at her when Panchali says I know his name. I know the relationship too. Arjun is smiling at Panchali.
		3			Arjun says what everyone knows is not what Panchali is asking. Who you are tell to your mother. He tells this with his eyes moving toward her, hence extra point. Ermm I am not giving him point for the cloud analogy.
			0.5	0.5	NS look at Panchali after Abhi talks about Arjun.
		1			Arjun looks at Panchali as Abhi is about to pick up Panchali's tears.
		1			Arjun's smile at Panchali when she says avashya mera he hai.
		1			Arjun's proud look at P when P says abhi will be remain amar.
		1			Arjun looks at P when Abhi goes down to take blessings.
		0			Krishna fixes Abhi-Uttara marriage. Arjun looks at Subhi, then nods his head, which gets answered by Panchali. This is very confusing. I am give -1+1 = 0. Objections welcome.

2.20	1.20	7.93	3.53	1.53	Total Tally

POW/SOW Pg133

Standout Performance: Bheem gets 10 points for not forgetting about Panchali's insults when Yudi says to let go of everything and going back to forest.

Yudi = 12.34(0.45) + 5(0.45) + 0(0.1) = 7.80

Bheem = 8.84(0.45) + 3(0.45) + 10(0.1) = 6.33

Arjun = (-12.41)(0.45) + 1(0.45) + 0(0.1) = (-5.14)

Nakul = 3.1(0.45) + 2(0.45) + 0(0.1) = 2.3

Sahadev = 2.85(0.45) + 4(0.45) + 0(0.1) = 3.1

Hence Yudi is the winner!!

pg132

Y	B	A	N	S	Final Grading Analysis - May 3/ 2014
2	2	2	2	2	Upapandav Mentioned by Draupadii in convo with Sudeshna. We are giving every pati bonus mark here with votes from Anjana, Sabhayata, Darklight, Paro, and Poojie.
	1				Bheem takes letter from Panchali & ties it to Y's Bhalla...Not sure what Nakula is doing
2					Y says "Panchali" tis time to punish those who have wronged you.(1) The time you have written on this letter uss din mahayudh ka arambh hoga (1)
0.5	0.5				BY give look while she says mahayudh started when Gandhar Raj got idea of dhyut in his head.
0.25	0.25		0.50	0.25	YBNS angry look while she says this date will just be end date of that adharam Extra shot of Nakula
1					Y gives final look n slight nod before going of with javelin
1					Y sends javelin declaring war all the way to HP (2pt /2 since war isn't just for Panchali, but Dharma too)
		-2			Arjuna & Subhi ka chariotride together (note she didn't use palki like last time...Panchali has never gotten similar ride from YBANS). (-1) Eyelock btwn AS at Abhi's words. (-1)
6.75	3.75	0	2.5	2.25	Total Tally

pg133

Y	B	A	N	S	Final Grading Analysis - May 2
		0.5			Arjuna asks for Govind to be by their side in war.

		0.5			Total Tally

pg132

Y	B	A	N	S	Final Grading Analysis - May 1/ 2014
		-1			Arjuna turns his head to listen to Subhi when she calls him "Aarya"
		-1			He turns his head and faces her when she calls him "Aarya" again and listens to her news
		-1			He looks toward her once while saying that Madhav always sides with Dharma and no point going to him to ask him anything.
		-1			Arjuna listens to her reasoning as to why he has to ask Madhav to side with them.
		-1			Subhi con't on that Krishna will be accused of partiality and Arjuna turns to look at her again.
		-1			Arjuna turns his head towards Subhi again when she says that Krishna will give to whomever asks him first.
		-1			He thinks on her advice that he must go before Dhrit's son and ask...He nods his head toward her with the slightest of smiles.
		-7			Total Tally - Now people may object to the negative marking, but though this was not a conventional "romantic" scene it was most definitely a husband-wife scene. Subhi was counseling him as his wife while he was low and he listened to her and became hopeful. I also only negative marked only those instances where he clearly reacted to her words.

pg131

Y	B	A	N	S	Grading Analysis - April 30
		-1			Arjun laughingly says Subhadra is a moorkh.
		-1			Arjun asks where is your mother?
		-1			Arjun reacts to Subhadra saying this decision is not made by Arjun or Krishna.
		-2			Subhadra calls out Aarya. Arjun looks up at her. She comes up to her. Arjun is looking at her.
		-1			Arjun's reaction when she says Krishna's words don't have one meaning. Did you forget?
		-1			Arjun's reaction when she says did you forget that Krishna is called Ranchod too?
		-1			Eyelock between the two after she says Krishna doesn't need shastra to win a war.
		-1			Arjun starts thinking over Subhi's words.
		0.5			I will give Arjun half point for coming to Dwarka on Panchali's suggestion. Or trying to convince Yadavs to be on their side in war.
		(-8.5)			TOTAL TALLY

pg110

Y	B	A	N	S	Final Grading Analysis - April 28
					Bheshma-Pandavs conversation is about their worries of including the entire aryavrat for fighting their personal insult. No Negative marking. They finally agree for war but on Bheeshma's insistence. Hence no marking.
					Arjun says now war is only our duty. Duryodhan is bringing everyone into war. Only discussing hence no marking.
					Yudi says if we leave this kingdom and live our entire life as forest dwellers then war will be stopped. No negative marking, still discussing.
	1.5				Bheem says are we not going to punish them for insulting Panchali? Are we going to leave Dury alone for doing misdeeds.
					Nakul says about king's duties and society. Not related to panchali.
					Yudi says how will we raise weapons against Drona and Bheeshma? In both sides we have people related to us, how will we see their death. When Bheeshma gave us permission for war, Arjun you firstly said we won't raise weapons against him. How will you raise your bow? Still discussing hence no negative marking.
2.2	0.2	0.2	0.2	0.2	Panchali to Yudi says you do not not listen to Bheeshma. YBANS look at her. Yudi-Panchali eyelock. Panchali says it is his order for war. He will not agree. Yudi-Panchali eyelock.
0.33	0.33	0.33			YBA look at her when Panchali says how difficult it was for him to say you this.
1					Panchali asks what could be the reason? Yudi-Panchali eyelock.
0.33	0.33	0.33			Panchali says he saw his DIL disrobed and yet kept quiet. YBA look.
0.33	0.33	0.33			YBA look upset when Panchali talks about Bheeshma.
0.2	0.2	0.2	0.2	0.2	YBANS look at Panchali when she says Bheeshma is looking for mukti.
0.7	0.2	0.7	0.2	0.2	YBANS looking at P when P says if in doubt, go to govind. Yudi and Arjun look at her.
0.5	2	0.5			Panchali says Govind will be with us in war. Y,D look at her. Bheem says Panchali is right. Says if Govind is with us, then it is for sure a dharam yudh. Don't know who is looking at..Panchali or Yudi? 😕
5.59	5.09	2.59	0.6	0.6	TOTAL TALLY

SOW/POW
pg 90

Standout Performance: Arjun gets 10 points for his conversation with Panchali and consoling her.

Yudi = 22.64(0.45) + 1(0.45) + 0(0.1) = 10.64

Bheem = 53.22(0.45) + 4(0.45) + 0(0.1) = 25.75

Arjun = 68.94(0.45) + 5(0.45) + 10(0.1) = 34.27

Nakul = 15.27(0.45) + 2(0.45) + 0(0.1) = 7.77

Sahadev = 14.04(0.45) + 3(0.45) + 0(0.1) = 7.67

Hence Arjun is the winner!! 😊

pg 88

Y	B	A	N	S	Grading Analysis - April 26
					Recap from yesterday with P questioning whether B will side with principles or throne. No points
4.00					Y gives analogy when Virat offers sena. (1) He explains they took pran based on their samarth (1). They will fulfill pran with their own samarth. (1) Soon 5 chariots will be at HP. (1) (As Panchali con't its to punish 100 sons of Dhrit am assuming the "dand" has to do with her not kingdom)
		5.00			Arjun's monologue about 101 not 100. (5 pts): No.Panchali its not 100 but 101 (1), Send message to Dury & Co that we will kill 101 because K's samarth is adhar of Dury's dare. (2) Pandu Putr 101 ka bali (1) KalaBairav Sacrifice analogy (1).
0.50	0.50		0.50	0.50	YBNS angry looks X2 during Arjuna's monologue
0.20	0.20	0.20	0.20	0,20	YBANS final angry look at end of scene
1.00	1.00	1.00	1.00	1.00	YBANS War preps giving pt each as each doing something different
1.00	1.00	1.00	1.00	1.00	Panchali Tilaks. Only YA shown, but all have tilaks so giving all a pt each
0.80	0.80	0.80	0.80	0.80	Panchaili says dharma is with them & go kill paapis. They walk & pose X3
1.60	1.00	1.60	0.80	0.80	All blow conch and give angry looks YBANS x3 + YABx3 + YAx2
					Not giving them anything for puzzlement and convo with Bhisma, but anything clearly/inferentially about justice for Panchali like mention of Dhrit's 100 sons which she mentioned. Though negative marking was possible for some of this including Arjuna's refusal to raise arms against Bhishma I am not giving any as they seemed totally baffled by the turn of events. Given the bafflement I don't think they are really refusing to fight for justice for P.
	3.00				Bhim says they only challenged Dhrit's sons(1) - who lack samarth(1). So on what strength they commited apradh (1)
2.00					Yudhi reiterates they haven't come to fight B, but challenge Dhrit's sons (1) & AngaRaj (1)
			1.00		Nakula answers Bhisma's question - he mentions "apna apmaan" & "apna sampathi" - Assuming "apna" includes Panchali so split points for both
		1.00			Arjun mentions Dhrit's son misbehaviour with Panchali and asks isn't it necessary to punish them for that. Full point for mention of Panchali
11.10	7.50	10.60	5.30	4.10	TOTAL TALLY

pg 75

Y	B	A	N	S	Final Analysis - April 25 -p.75
		0.5			Arjuna leaps from the chariot with Uttara and tells him its no longer about you. I will now mete justice. (Split pt as he its not clear justice is just about Panchali)
		0.5			Arjun says to Bheeshma aaj hamare aapmanon ka pratisodh lene ka samay hai. (Split point as "hamare" =Pandavas and Panchali)
		0			Arjun stops in due to Bhisma's blackmail (-1) but obtains promise that Bheeshma won't stop him in future if there is war (+1) = 0
		2			Arjun says very soon, for the insult of one woman, 5 Pandavs will come as your death. (1 for lion-deer analogy & 1 for threat)
		2			Arjun comes and notices Panchali's tears and comes up to her.
		1			Arjun says No it is not the time for tears.
		2			Arjun says now blood will flow. Who all have insulted you, their hearts will bleed.
		1			Eyelock with Panchali.
		1			Panchali says am I thirsty for blood? Arjun asks why this question?
		1			Eyelock with Panchali when she says time heals every wound.
		1			Eyelock with Panchali when she says why those dyut sabha memories haunt me.
		2			Panchali says Why do I only want war? Arjun shakes his head and comes and sit by her.
		5			Arjun says No Panchali (1), in these 13 years you heart is not looking for revenge but for justice (1). With time, the sankalp to clean the society becomes more determined.(1) With time, xyz becomes more medicinal,(1) that is why Madhav has put in our hearts justice instead of revenge. (1)
		1			Eyelock with Panchali after this conversation.
	1				Bheem says Arjun is right, Panchali.
0.2	0.3		0.3	0.3	BNS bring Panchali's dress and ornaments. Yudi too is present.
	2	1			Bheem says not to worry about sankalp and all.(1) Very soon Drit's son's punishment will be announced.(1) Arjun was looking at Panchali. (1)
4					Yudi says and that punishment will be.. Yudi picks up her dress..and then says announced by Aryavaat's samragyi. Eyelock with Y-D.
0.5	0.5		2		Bheem says Dury is planning some new prapanch. Nakul says before Dury does something, we need to punish him. Yudi and Bheem's angry look. Nakul uses analogy of snake - we need to concentrate more on doing things quickly rather than strength.(As this is directly after the convo about Panchali deciding "dand" I take it its all about Panchali not Pandav as they don't mention "adhikar" - so am assuming this is just about Panchali)
0.8	0.8	0.8	0.8	0.8	Panchali says Pitamah's dharm is with HP. All 5 turn around (0.2) and look at her (0.2). 2 extra shots as well(0.4).
5.5	4.63	21.3	3.13	1.13	TOTAL TALLY

pg 61

Y	B	A	N	S	Grading Analysis - April 24/14 - p.61
					Y insists on going to war with King V. There has already been negative marking re Pandav participation in Matysa's wars and resultant risk. Am not deducting marks again.
	0.5				Bheem suggests Arjun can look after the woman folk and children here. 0.5 as women presumably includes Panchali.
0.5		0.5			Y convinces A that it will be riskiest for Behen B to fight in a war. If Dury sees a woman then Dury he would surely get suspicious.
					YBNS leave for war. No negative mark for "exposure risk" to Agyatvaas. Decision to participate took place yesterday.
		1			Arjun walks and stands next to Draupadi.
		2			Arjun looks down at the army, at her and then both towards the sun. So its one eyelock & joint look at sun.
					YBNS fighting the war - But according to Dury, it was Susharma who they are fighting against. This doesn't risk their agyatvaas. No deduction
		1			Servant says Hastinapur has attacked the palace. A-D eyelock.
					Sudeshna says who will go for pratikaar. It is unclear whether A is looking at S or P. Since its not clear I won't give a mark
		2			Arjun's look when Panchali says not to insult Brihannala. Panchali says Brihannala has been arjun's charioteer. Arjun was looking at her.
		1			Arjun's followup from Panchali's statement to be Uttar's charioteer.
		2			Arjun stops when Panchali says "Kintu Brihnnala" and looks at Panchali.
		2			Panchali talks about Bheeshma. Arjun says he is not afraid of Bheeshma and Dury won't recognise him.
		1			Arjun looks at the clock and then back at Panchali
		1			Arjun says only 1 prahar left before our agyaatvaas is over.
		1			Arjun-Panchali eyelock before leaving.
		0			Arjun risks agyaatvaas by going in front of Hastinapur folk. Marks were previously deducted for exposure risk. But, Arjuna's risk was nullified by decision that he remain in Virat with women & children. So, there should be negative for risk here. But, that risk is nullified by his wait. 😆
0.5	0.5	14.5	0	0	Total Tally

pg47

Y	B	A	N	S	Final Grading Analysis - April 23
		3			Arjun for his creativity. - 1 for N/S making sounds, A dancing and B fighting at the same time to camouflage it
		1			Arjun convinces Uttara for a showcase of his Rudra Tandav - Part of Keechak killing plan.
	2				Bheem walking angrily and stands next to Panchali.
	2				Bheem angry stares at Keechak.
	1				Bheem said you could recognise Panchali but not Bheem?
	5				Bheem's angry stares when Keechak threatens him of dire consequences. There are 5 shots of angry look.
	1				Keechak says you will have to go for 12 year vanvaas again. Bheem looks at Panchali.
	0.5				Keechak says come to my protection. Bheem's angry look.
	4				Keechaks says to leave behind Draupadi. Bheem gets super angry. Walks up to Keechak. Bheem talks about Hathi analogy. Bheem says I am not bound, I am free to punish you.
	0.5				Bheem says your voice won't get outside this room, so Dury can't hear you.
		3+1 = 4			Arjun dancing through the entire fight. +1 for his angry expression throughout the dance.
			3		Nakul making the noise of the horses throughout the fight.
				3	Sahadev making the noise of the cows throughout the fight.
	5 +0.5 = 5.5				Bheem fighting and killing Keechak. Includes the mentioning the contributions of other pandavas to Keechak +0.5 for throwing Keechak at Panchali's feet.
(-0.5)					Yudi says this war is mainly to make their agyaatvaas a failure. If we come out, then this war will stop. Delay in fulfilling the 2 aims - kingdom and panchali
(-0.5)	(-0.5)	(-1)			Virat suggests them to run away. Arjun refuses to do that. We will stay here and fight war. And if we get caught then it would be our destiny. Yudi, Bheem agrees.
(-0.5)					Virat said to Yudi that he (Virat) promised them protection at the start. Yudi took the king into confidence, hence securing their agyaatvaas. However he risked their agyaatvaas by revealing the truth. It was their luck that Virat was a good man.
(-1.5)	21	7	3	3	Total Tally

pg 31

Y	B	A	N	S	Final Grading Analysis - April 22
			2		Nakul says sadly even after being the Samragi of Aryavrat, Panchali is doing a work of dasi. I am very upset about this.
1	0.33	0.33	0.33		Yudi says Panchali will never accept daasatv. Bheem, Nakul, Arjun agree.
0.2	0.2	0.2	0.2	0.2	Panchali comes and says now agyaatvaas is also coming to end. YBANS look at her with a smile.
0.4	0.2	0.4	0.2	0.2	Panchali says only 15 days and we are free. YBANS are looking at her.Yudi and Arjun have extra shots with smiling face.
0.2	0.2	0.2	0.2	0.2	Panchali says I am feeling the freedom from now itself. YBANS smile at her
0.5		0.5			Panchali talks about sun. Yudi and Arjun have a smiling face.
0.5	0.5	2			Arjun notices her torn clothes and asks her why is her clothes torn? Yudi and Bheem have a serious face.
0.5		1.5			Panchali hints about another culprit. Arjun's angry look (2 shots). Yudi is shocked. One look of Arjun is along with look of Yudi, hence split point.
	4	(-1)			Bheem gets angry and yells Keechak. He misbehaved again with you. I will break his head. Bheem proceeds to kill. Arjun stops him.
(-1)	0	(-1)	(-1)	(-1)	Panchali too stops him. Bheem stops(1). Everyone get negative marking for letting go Keechak.
0.25	2	0.25	0.25	0.25	Panchali worries about Dury finding about them. Bheem's 2 angry looks(eyelocks with her). YANS angry look.
0	0.5	0.5			Yudi says Panchali is right. We need to worry about the 15 years of agyaatvaas now. (1-1) B,A angry look.
1	1				Yudi says Keechak must have known Panchali's identity. Bheem is unhappy.
				1	Sahadev wonders why didn't Keechak reveal Panchali's identity in the sabha itself.
0.33+0.5 = 0.83	2.5		0.33	0.33	Bheem says I know his desire. If he knows Panchali's identity, then he will surely take advantage of it. YNS get angry. YB has another shot of angry look/
	1	1			Arjun's angry look. Bheem is angrily pacing.
0.5		0.5			Panchali says If I accept this proposal then I will have to commit suicide. YA's angry look.
0.33	0.33	0.33	1		Panchali says Else we have to repeat vanvaas and agyaatvaas. Nakul is also pacing but slowly. YBA's angry look.
	0.33	0.33	0.33	3	Sahadev says we will kill Keechak and run away from this city. Sahadev moves towards Panchali. says it is only a matter of 15 days, can't we hide in the forest? BAN thinking in background.
(-1)	(-0.33)	(-0.33)		(-0.33)	Yudi says we can't run away. If we don't present ourselves tomorrow, people will know our identity. Arjun agrees. B gets thinking. Yudi says Dury will attack Virat and Virat has given us a roof. Sahadev has to agree. Yudi says Their protection is our responsibility.
1	3.5				Bheem says can't make this agyaatvaas go waste (0.5). It is time for war (0.5). I am eager to kill off Dury (1). Yudi's angry look. Bheem continues I cannot wait for more 13 years (0.5). We will have to find some other way (1). Yudi gets thinking.
				2	Sahadev to arjun says our situation will not change. our vanvaas will go waste. (Hints he is against panchali going to keechak's room)
	0.5	2			Arjun says you are right. But we have to punish keechak for his bad intentions towards Panchali. B with angry look
0.33	0.33	2.33			Arjun says I have a plan (2).YAB's determined look.
5.54	17.09	10.04	3.84	5.85	Total Tally

pg 5

Y	B	A	N	S	Final Grading Analysis - April 21
0.5					Yudi asks dasi whether sattu ladoos have been given in the Queen's room too. Only half point coz Arjun is also present in the Queen's room.
		4			Queen says sattu ke ladoo. Arjun looks at Panchali. Queen asks why does sattu ke ladoo keeps coming? Second eyelock. Arjun asks leave from Queen. Looks at Panchali and signals her to come out as well.
1					Queen says to Panchali - You have Mantri Kank's protection. At some point Yudi would have talked about it to the King.
	2				Bheem asks Arjun - Didn't Panchali receive my message? We are waiting for her only.
		2			Arjun says we both saw the sattu ke ladoo together. But seems like Queen has stopped her from some work.
	0.5				Bheem sending ladoos to meet his brothers and panchali.
1.5	2.5	6	0	0	Total Tally

3rd thread(link given below) pg 126

Y	B	A	N	S	Final Grading Analysis - April 19
1					Yudi says everyone will be looking out for 5 men and 1 woman. Yudi looks at Panchali's direction.
			1		Nakul says for 1 year we will have new name and we have to keep that in mind. He seems to be saying that to everyone. I think he looks at Panchali direction too. Objections welcome.
	0.2	0.2	0.2	0.2	Panchali calls out Aarya. BANS look at her.
1		0.2	0.2		Yudi turns and looks at Panchali. Panchali says A lot of hubby-wife call them by secret name. Nakul is looking at her. Arjun is looking at her.
2			1.2		Panchali says I will give you a secret name. Yudi looks at her. Panchali says his name is Mantri Kank. Yudi looks at her. Nakul is looking at her. Panchali says till someone doesn't ask you whether you have another name, say Kank. Nakul carries on and says to keep quiet if they ask your other name.
3		1			Yudi agrees and looks at Panchali. Yudi says if Panchali has given a name to her husband, then surely that is my name. Arjun agrees.
0.2	0.2	0.2	0.2	0.2	YBANS look at her when she says she will give all of them names.
		1			Arjun says don't give me a name, Madhav has already given me one.
	2	0.2			Panchali asks what's so special in the name? Arjun looks at her. Bheem says there is a speciality because you will have to hide your clothes. Else he will steal all your clothes.
		3			Arjun-Panchali shy eyelock
0.5	1.5	2.5	1	1	Tapsaya points for Pandavas.

7.7	3.9	8.3	3.8	1.4	Total Tally

Links to previous archive threads
Thread 3
http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3980069&TPN=4

Thread 2
http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3962172&TPN=2

Thread 1
http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3926703&TPN=2

Edited by Sabhayata - 11 years ago