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Tenzin

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Posted: 11 years ago

#51

Originally posted by: katana

Yes. U r right. Becos of this post I watched this movie. Wonderful movie.
1. One scene - they showed akbar reading salim's letter and throwed it. How it's possible?
2. What is the name of the Rajvanshi who rescued Anarkali from jail for Salim and eventually died?
3. Did akbar had lust over Anarkali ?

Errrmmm . . . Dear first I will clearly clarified that I am not sure about this information I'm giving you so that you didn't get to learn false historical facts , nor I want to offense any historical characters but whenever I search over net about Anarkali because I am curious about her tragic end lovestory with prince salim as shown in the movie and there are still different rumours over it even if I know that most of informations given are false without any sources , for numerous time I got over such informations that Anarkali was Akbar's concubine or Akbar didn't let Salima marry with Anarkali because he didn't want to make a poor nautch girl , the futur Empress of Hindustan due to his mom Hamida Banu Begum's past who were first a modest commoner ! Among all these I somehow believe a little bit the 'underline' part but I think others are just false invented facts 🥱🥱

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PAPS71

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Posted: 11 years ago

#52

Don't know the fact... so many rumors floating in net... somewhere I read that Anarkali was concubine of Akbar... and Daniyal was her son... and when Salim fell in love with Anarkali... he was 30 yrs old and Anarkali was 44 n Daniyal 27 yrs...

Don't know the fact... but one thing is for sure... akbar's 3 sons were good for nothing... only drinks drugs n women!!!... jahangir ordered to blind his son Khusru... becoz everyone thought that he will be a good king ... later Sahjahan killed him for the singhasan... if Khusru succeed to singhasan. .. may be our history would have been different...

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myviewprem

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Posted: 11 years ago

#53

Originally posted by: sweetystubborn

Errrmmm . . . Dear first I will clearly clarified that I am not sure about this information I'm giving you so that you didn't get to learn false historical facts , nor I want to offense any historical characters but whenever I search over net about Anarkali because I am curious about her tragic end lovestory with prince salim as shown in the movie and there are still different rumours over it even if I know that most of informations given are false without any sources , for numerous time I got over such informations that Anarkali was Akbar's concubine or Akbar didn't let Salima marry with Anarkali because he didn't want to make a poor nautch girl , the futur Empress of Hindustan due to his mom Hamida Banu Begum's past who were first a modest commoner ! Among all these I somehow believe a little bit the 'underline' part but I think others are just false invented facts 🥱🥱

Akbar didn't let Salima marry with Anarkali because he didn't want to make a poor nautch girl , the futur Empress of Hindustan
due to his mom Hamida Banu Begum's past who were first a modest commoner !

Did you mean Salim or Salima?

Obivously Akbar shall not allow Salima marry Anarkali because she is his wife 😆😆😆

Poor Akbar later on Nur Jahan became an empress and so did Mumtaz both commoner background and you can see what happened to his family only fights and bloodbaths and fanatic like aurangzeb. This salim and khurram purposely wanted to marry commoners to go against akbar may be jeeteji nahi kiya akbar ke marne ke baad kiya 😕

khuladi pe pair marliya dono ne aur kandhaan ka nash karliya

No wonder akbar did not want commoners as his bahu's or grand bahu's. But he was not really agianst commoners he allowed salim to marry sahib jamal his milk brother zain koka's neice, he married khusrau(salim's son) to rahim's daughter. So not like totally out and out agianst commoner bahu's. But he had definetly great issues with nur jahan and her family marrying into his and how correctly he recognised them that they will be manipulative and spilt and create infight in family.

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Tenzin

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Posted: 11 years ago

#54

Originally posted by: myviewprem

Akbar didn't let Salima marry with Anarkali because he didn't want to make a poor nautch girl , the futur Empress of Hindustan due to his mom Hamida Banu Begum's past who were first a modest commoner !

Did you mean Salim or Salima?

Obivously Akbar shall not allow Salima marry Anarkali because she is his wife 😆😆😆

Poor Akbar later on Nur Jahan became an empress and so did Mumtaz both commoner background and you can see what happened to his family only fights and bloodbaths and fanatic like aurangzeb. This salim and khurram purposely wanted to marry commoners to go against akbar may be jeeteji nahi kiya akbar ke marne ke baad kiya 😕

khuladi pe pair marliya dono ne aur kandhaan ka nash karliya

No wonder akbar did not want commoners as his bahu's or grand bahu's. But he was not really agianst commoners he allowed salim to marry sahib jamal his milk brother zain koka's neice, he married khusrau(salim's son) to rahim's daughter. So not like totally out and out agianst commoner bahu's. But he had definetly great issues with nur jahan and her family marrying into his and how correctly he recognised them that they will be manipulative and spilt and create infight in family.

OMG , you're right , I wrote 'Salima' rather then 'Salim' 😆🤣 I think , I need to rest a bit 😆😆😆 Dear , if you want , shall we ask Abhay to give us extra-informations over this , I mean with the unclear and fealthy different rumours over Salim-Anarkali's story , Akbar's relation with Anarkali , why didn't he let his son marry with Anarkali , true and clear reason and intentions , over his sons etc . . .

P.S : Caught you dear 😆😆😆 Even you have written Salima rather then Salim 🤣🤣

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myviewprem

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Posted: 11 years ago

#55

Originally posted by: PAPS71
Don't know the fact... so many rumors floating in net... somewhere I read that Anarkali was concubine of Akbar... and Daniyal was her son... and when Salim fell in love with Anarkali... he was 30 yrs old and Anarkali was 44 n Daniyal 27 yrs...
Don't know the fact... but one thing is for sure... akbar's 3 sons were good for nothing... only drinks drugs n women!!!... jahangir ordered to blind his son Khusru... becoz everyone thought that he will be a good king ... later Sahjahan killed him for the singhasan... if Khusru succeed to singhasan. .. may be our history would have been different...

no daniyal is not son of anarkali because he is buried with his mom in his tomb. Anarkali buried in anarkali tomb lahore. Though i am not sure if anarkali was akbar's cocubbine or not. That also may be rumor only.

Yes khusrau was a good person but he did not know when to stop his rebellion. He was small 17 when Akbar died and too young and immature to handle politics etc. Jehangir blinded him after 3 rebellions and two assaisnation attempts against him.

If Khusrau succeded kingdom mughal empire would have ended with akbar. Those times people were cruel and manipulative so king could not be innocent and goody good. Jehangir himself who was ruthless to some extent was considered soft and unfit king and people would take advantage of him so khusrau would have had tough time handling all enemies. He would have turned out like humayun is my prediction all would have cheated him and he would lose the kingdom.

Shah Jahan was perfect king after Akbar neither very cruel neither very soft. I think Babar, Akbar and Shah Jahan were good as emperors despite their faults. Humayun, Dara Sikoh, Khusrau were fickle minded and soft by nature poetry, painting, astronomy and sufism suited them not politics. Jehangir was in between these two categories sometimes good sometimes cruel, his biggest downfall was his drinking and health and he could rarely make out who was tricking him and who was not else he could have been a successful king. Aurangzeb was another extreme case he i am not sure turned fanatic and started confusing kingship with religion but he was also most manipulative and street smart person among all mughal emperors.

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katana

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Posted: 11 years ago

#56

Originally posted by: katana

Yes. U r right. Becos of this post I watched this movie. Wonderful movie.
1. One scene - they showed akbar reading salim's letter and throwed it. How it's possible?
2. What is the name of the Rajvanshi who rescued Anarkali from jail for Salim and eventually died?
3. Did akbar had lust over Anarkali ?

My question are only from film - I don't know how far the movie contain history 😕

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katana

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Posted: 11 years ago

#57

I feel akbar is the best strong king in Mughal empire. Shahjahan is not broad minded like Akbar, and he killed mercilessly all the male members of the family for strong kingship.

Is there any post about other Mughals kings other than Akbar & jahangir in our forum?

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myviewprem

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Posted: 11 years ago

#58

Originally posted by: katana
I feel akbar is the best strong king in Mughal empire. Shahjahan is not broad minded like Akbar, and he killed mercilessly all the male members of the family for strong kingship.
Is there any post about other Mughals kings other than Akbar & jahangir in our forum?

yes i had read on mumtaz thread

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myviewprem

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Posted: 11 years ago

#59

Originally posted by: katana
I feel akbar is the best strong king in Mughal empire. Shahjahan is not broad minded like Akbar, and he killed mercilessly all the male members of the family for strong kingship.
Is there any post about other Mughals kings other than Akbar & jahangir in our forum?

Yes but akbar also killed his cousins that was tradition than to prevent bhagawat then

like babar's brother tried to kill him, humayun's brothers tried to kill him, so akbar was scared of such rebellion and killed his cousins, shah jahna killed his cousins and brothers, aurangzeb killed his brothers and many nephews etc this continued every generation. Babar defeated and killed his brother, humayun blinded his brother after defeat and one brother died in battle field.

The only one who did not wash his hand in brothers, cousins and nephews blood is jehangir. But he blinded his son like humayun.

This was tradition in many royal family like england royal family once elder brother came on throne he killed his other brothers and their kids.

You cannot rule in peace if you are always tensed when your brothers and nephews will try and kill you and your kids for throne. Humayun did that error and paid dearly all life. Jehangir also forgave khusrau thrice rebellion and would have been in constant civil war if he had not punished khusrau.So everyone will be scared seeing humayun condition whether to forgive family because their and their children life always at risk.

Akbar forgave Sharifuddin so many rebellion, few murder attempts, even murder attempts on salim who was a child but if someone will never change and keep trying to kill you and your kids why should you not punish them? Should you punish them after your children die after such attempts r you die?? So i think in many cases what they did was right. Look at humayun he forgave every time what did his brothers do joined hands with sher shah suri and defeated him, his daughter kidnapped and never returned by sher shah suri, his family running one place to another, akbar and bakshi taken hostage, akbar tied to kabul fort.

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