Jodha Akbar - Poetic Justice!!!!

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adiana12

@adiana12

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Posted: 11 years ago

Frnds, There is belief that Jodha's trust has been broken by The Emperor - yet there is a counter belief that Jodha broke her husband's trust and that has led to her trust being broken by The Emperor. It is being said that she gave a 'VACHAN' and hence she kept quiet and that all her previous deeds should have been enough to trust her. I say that The Emperor gave her a promise of never to touch her without her permission, which he has kept even in an inebriated state and that should have been enough for her to have trusted him. Yet Jodha gave that 'VACHAN' to Sujamal - So the question is why???

Also in the recent epi, when Sujamal is finally tackled by The Emperor - he tells The Emperor that the attack on the jashn day was not by him since he has promised not to harm Jodha's suhaag - and he also tells The Emperor that Mughals are his enemies and he will meet The Emperor in battle - The Emperor asks him that since he has given his sister Jodha such a promise, how does he plan to tackle their meeting in the battlefield - to this Sujamal responds that in the battlefield The Emperor is not his sister's husband but an enemy soldier and as such it is his duty to fight him to the finish - Now this to me sounded familiar - since this was exactly what The Emperor had told Jodha way back, when she first hid her first meeting with Sujamal - when The Emperor tells her that 'I have no grouse with the manner in which you see your brother since to you that is what he is, but in the battlefield he is my enemy and as such it is my duty to treat him so and fight him. I accept your 'Nazariya' and I would like you to understand mine'.

So I decided to go back and re-look at the epi where Jodha gives that "VACHAN' to her brother Sujamal. There are some very interesting things that were made clear in this particular epi (18th March) where Jodha went in the night to meet Sujamal.

1. Sujamal tells Jodha that though the Mughals are his enemies and in battle I can take the life of any Mughal but not the life of The Emperor becoz the promise of a brother is above all else!!! - Now this is in total contrast to what Sujamal tells The Emperor in this tuesday's epi!!! So it is ok for Sujamal to have this 'Drishtikon' but if The Emperor has the same 'Nazariya' he is not to be trusted to do the right thing?????

2. When Sujamal tells Jodha of what he had seen about the plot to attack The Emperor and Jodha wants to tell The Emperor - Sujamal tells her it will be of no use since The Emperor will not listen to her as he thinks Sujamal is his doshi - and what do we see Jodha do??? - She remembers (in FB) what The Emperor tells her, of what had happened in Mewat to his brothers - but she does not think of the fact that The Emperor had the grace to first call her and let her know of what had transpired and then after that had said that he would now meet Sujamal in battle and the farmaan The Emperor gives to Atgha to search for Sujamal and arrest him - Jodha forgot that The Emperor had been challenged and he was duty bound to respond otherwise others too would do the same!!! What did Jodha think The Emperor would do if she told him the truth - that he would play underhand and kill Sujamal - that he would do 'Peeth ke peeche vaar'??? This is the level of trust she has in the man, who has kept his word to her and who has stood by her when she wanted her parents to think her marital life was happy and the man who stood by her many other times?????

3. Then when Sujamal asks her to promise that she wont tell The Emperor of having met him, she does so. And her motivating factor for giving this 'VACHAN' is her desire to remove the 'Kalank on Sujamal bhaisa's matha' - and these words are not mine but what Jodha says in the epi of 18th March, as she gives her promise and leaves.

Thus Jodha shows her trust in her brother (who gives a different story to The Emperor of what his response would be in battle, to what he had given Jodha) and shows her lack of trust in the Man who had never broken his promise to her - Thus Jodha broke her husband's trust.

Today Jodha (and infact many) are berating The Emperor for breaking her trust - but The Emperor's trust did not break due to him - It was the Universe deploying Poetic Justice on Jodha for not trusting her husband. The root cause of Jodha's trust being broken is she having broken the trust of her husband, The Emperor. There are no two ways about this.

Still all this is now water under the bridge. What would be tolerable, would be to see Jodha accept equal responsibility for her role in the fiasco, instead of palming off the entire blame on The Emperor as her letter does - I have already analyzed that letter on another thread and yes that letter has only 1 sentence, which very condescendingly states that it was not The Emperor's fault, but by the time it ends it definitely shows gajinitis and blames The Emperor squarely for the current fiasco.

Edited by adianasr - 11 years ago

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priyanka

@shiningways2407

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Posted: 11 years ago

Even I watched suja jalal encounter n was hell shocked when suja told that jang k maidan me saare mughal hamare shatru hai. His words were contrast to what he said to jo. Keeping in mind words of suja, jal n jo did what was req. Well jo was ready to reveal abt suja when she got his letter bt was mislead by moti as jalal was mislead by MA regarding not confronting jo. N ya jodha knowingly/unknowingly became the reason becoz of which jalal lost trust on her n she lost trust on jalal. Keeping in mind that jalal was capable of keeping his promise even in drunken state, the level of trust which jodha had on jalal was matter of pity. I was seriously disaapointed by the letter as she completely held jalal responsible for crushing her blooming love bt never realised that she also did the same thing despite knowing jalal's feeling. Added to this she created aantwa vachan which actually she nevr followed bt felt like following this particular time. For me the most pathetic part is that she is not realising her mistake. Only during antaratma scene she said that she was also responsible for jalal's behaviour bt from tue to fri we saw no scne not even soul talk where she realised her fault even 1 %.

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ngayou

@ngayou

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Posted: 11 years ago

U r still supporting Jalal 😲 , this is so not the done thing here, Adiana 😉 🤣

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adiana12

@adiana12

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: ngayou
U r still supporting Jalal 😲 , this is so not the done thing here, Adiana 😉 🤣

😆 Well I just dont want my TE to be the only one taking this burden you see. That would be unfair and a gross travesty of justice. 😉 And we do need to see Jodha loose her ego na, if we want to see a love story 😆

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ngayou

@ngayou

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: adianasr

😆<font size="3">Well I just dont want my TE to be the only one taking this burden you see. That would be unfair and a gross travesty of justice.😉And we do need to see Jodha loose her ego na, if we want to see a love story😆</font>

I agree, Adi, we like equality in everything 😉 . Just couldn't resist writing that, but will try to come up with a reply to ur post soon, been itching to write a few points after seeing certain posts 😆

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amina1

@amina1

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Posted: 11 years ago

Well a i agree with adi,jodha is at fault and akbar is blamed as i said befor her intentions were right but her actions were wrong,ok he did not trust her but what he saw was what he believed

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kundra

@kundra

Voyager

Posted: 11 years ago

Nonsense. Whenever is indan serials a heroine makes a mistake the cv make the husband do a bigger mistake. Jodha is equally responsible. She hides the truth to from her husband and then expects Jalal to understand her (like she said in the letter). I have no hopes that they will make Jodha feel guilty or even realise for what she has done. I wish someone would support Jalal and speak up for him. No one exept from MA knows how patient he was with Jodha.

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myviewprem

@myviewprem

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Posted: 11 years ago

All i can say this track is highly biased towards jodha and sujamal and akbar is enemy and guilty before trial by a kangroo court which would not really be accepted in 21st century law.

So akbar need not go mad that everyone are shouting at him and treating him like he greatest wife abuser and accuser in world that includes his own mother. Its tough without fault to accept fault for consience will not agree and akbar is shown as very upright in serial. He knows its her fault too majorly and based on facts he shouted at her and accused her. So best to say sorry that is what all want to hear and forgive and forget jodha and everybody who are considering him guilty without trail. And be careful next time and confront jodha in front of another witness rather than alone in a room once bitten twice shy case. And never trust maham anga and go and question family members based on what she says and do independent enquiry.

Akbar's biggest fault he mst have gone and told his mom and salima abt jodha night journey and even that maham picture kand before confronting her. But he kept quiet so that her respect does not spoil in mom, salima eyes and see what happened he became villan now.

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Sam

@sam_0506

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Posted: 11 years ago

Adiana, I want to ask one question. Lot of people are saying Jalal broke Jodha's trust. What trust was that? Was it the trust that contrary to any and all evidences against Jodha Beghum (in any circumstances) Shehehshah will always take her side? But why does she think so? Where have it been shown that, such kind of trust is built between them. There haven't been any heart to heart conversations between them. For all intents and purposes they are still largely strangers to each other. I mean the fault might not lie only with Jodha. Even Jalal has been only tentative of late. Of course he might fear Dhakka. But no relationship may become strong if they do not overcome such obstacles.

In spite of all this Jodha thinks he should have trusted her. I mean why so? In murthy kand too, she asks him "Aapko lagata hai, hum aisa karenge?" Kyon bhai? Unhe aisa kyon nahi lagna chahiye? Does he know you so well? If yes, then how?? On what basis does she demand that even after seeing a complete stranger in her bedroom, even after witnessing first hand her secret rendezvous with that stranger, best of all, even after seeing that stranger giving her (almost) a longing look, he SHOULD trust her? I simply don't get it.

Has she trusted him any time? Ever? I don't remember it. In false pregnancy track she didn't trust him to keep his word. She didn't trust him to support her in that religion issue. She didn't trust with Sujamal's facts. Of course "Vachan" played a major role there. But the fact remains that she didn't trust him. Period.

Jalal might not have been exemplary husband. But Jodha is not the perfect wife either. Just being a woman shouldn't excuse her from demands of justice. She hasn't trusted her husband anytime. She has even admitted to his face that there were things she didn't want to share with him. But everybody just expects him to have trusted her. And mind it, he did. To the last possible moment.

I find it grossly unfair yaar. The love story of Jodha Akbar is turning into a "Bhakti Story" of Jalal towards Jodha. Why don't they understand that there is no feminism in showing the heroine as a mahan aatma. Two most important attributes of a pure soul is humility and empathy. The fearlessness is not only being ready to roam wilderness or being able to shoot arrows with best of them. Fearlessness also comes from being able to say sorry. If a person is ready to take responsibility for his actions, apologize for his mistakes, that is character. Poor Jodha is not given any chance to show her mettle.

Phew... A load of my chest. I wanted to say this for long. It really bugs me to see some idiot of a CV ruining one of the most powerful historical character for the sake of stupid dumb TRP.

Sam

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MyExiledSoul

@MyExiledSoul

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Posted: 11 years ago

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The one who did not trust her husband laments when her trust is broken ! poetic justice indeed.

Adi, I once mentioned in Aunty's post that Sujamal will never hesitate to harm Jalal if the latter ever comes between him and his political ambitions, he proved it while giving justification to Jalal. He reminded Jodha that he will always protect her suhaag as he promised her and later he told the Emperor, every Mughal is his enemy and gave a speech on a true Yodha ! Unfortunately, this very thought never crossed Jodha's mind, maybe she blindly loves her brother and was scared to even think about it. As for Jodha's trust, well, what goes around comes around, there is nothing to lament for, Jalal took all the blame on himself at the end of VK track, he never blamed his fate or anyone else. She is equally responsible this time, in fact her actions are the cause and if she, when Jalal finds her does not admit it was her mistakes that lead the situation to worsen then nothing can ever save Jalal from the feminists in Agra 😆 , Jokes apart, till now I've seen only Jalal crying buckets, repenting and feeling guilty for everything, but where is Jodha's side of story ? The anteraatma and letter were self contradictory that I simply cannot relate with her pain 😕. As she is wandering, she has much spare time to think about all these events, her own actions and misjudgements. Someone (I don't remem who ) told me in another post that Jodha's only intention behind the repeated meetings with Suja was to save Jalal's life, well, I have not seen her taking any step to find the attacker inside palace but her own words showed intention of removing the kalank on her Bhaisa, I'm not saying she did not care for Jalal's life, she did inform him about the possible attack but Jodha knows Jalal very well, at least I suppose so, he least cares for the assassination attempts on him and does not believe without proof. If her lack of trust and incapability of handling the situation lead to a disaster for her then there is no point in asking him to read her eyes and blaming him for breaking the non-existent vivah vachan. Jalal will never ever ask her to admit her mistakes too or even talk about it after his own mother's berating hence its now totally Jodha's job to act wise. Can I hope for this ? 😳