The most illogical track ever.....

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hello all... had no internet yesterday & came to IF only today ...went through a few posts...as usual, saw the extremes of the 2 viewpoints...almost felt the need to shield myself from the daggers flying around in the forum 😆...

On a more serious note, my pov (for all that it matters):😊

1) Jalal was given ample reason to NOT trust Jo by Jo herself with her lies & her silence about her meets with Sujamal(who in turn had noble intentions, but who, unknowingly, almost blew apart his sister's marriage)...Protecting her bro was not wrong by ANY means, but Jo not being able to empathise with her husband's state of mind, is a wife's failure somewhere. All through this track(till the epic showdown), she never made a single attempt to pacify her husband, if only to calm his mindset, despite knowing that he was drastically upset with her.

2)Jalal made every effort to believe her. Despite seeing her with a stranger in the middle of the night, entering a secluded hut with him, he believed in her, only feeling let down by her lack of trust in him. We should remember that kings in that era were under threat even from their own kin, including brothers, sisters, children. Jalal had been let down by his own sister BB in the fake pregnancy track. Hence an emperor CANNOT be expected to take calls ONLY using his heart ...it is his DUTY to use his head...here, he was madly in love with a woman who
a) had herself claimed her 'ghrina' for him initially
b)only proclaimed 'kartavya' for him even after consuming poison for him, despite him asking her repeatedly...
c)so far, did not allow him to as much as hold her hand in a romantic way

3)In Jodha's favour, she had been let down first by her father(for marrying him to Jalal), then her mother(who left no other option for her but suicide by disallowing her entry into Amer)...n now, her husband who accuses her of adultery-a crime which from Jodha's pov, is unthinkable...again, she as always has noble intentions, but this time her execution was wrong. There was NO way she & her bro could have caught the culprit in the palace on their own without the emperor's help. She repeatedly met her bro, she could have convinced her bro of the necessity to inform Jalal, for both, safe guarding his life, & calming down an angry husband. Jo NEVER made any attempt to nail the culprit after giving up the Harem responsibilities, & it was OBVIOUS, that Suj, as a KS would not succeed either.

So, in Jalal's favour, to doubt a wife, who is the enemy's daughter, whom he loves but who has hitherto NOT reciprocated his love(to his knowledge), & who has no answers to his questions about her secret meetings with a stranger in the middle of the night repeatedly, is justified.

4)Jo's conscience was only worried about Jo's ego being hurt, & Jalal's bleeding hand. This is a big time failure for a wife who could not see her husband's bleeding heart.

4) Jo leaving is justified according to me, but ONLY for the right reasons...the reasons quoted by her in her letter were not right...I hated Jalal's physical abuse of her during his showdown (despite understanding that this was common in the 16th century)...the letter could have been about how Jo was wrong in the beginning, then somewhere along the way, the situation got out of hand, & finally, how no self respecting woman could accept an accusation of adultery, (which for a pati vrata nari of those days was a fate worse than death)...the cvs messed up big time by making Jalal question her drinking Ben's poison, because, after all, what more can a person do to prove one's loyalty than risking their life??

It should have been a combination of an apology, & of course, hurt (for her husband not having understood her at all)...NOT a guilt trap for Jalal...there was no mention again of all the agony that HE has gone through...for, how could she have known that Jalal would have found out the truth WHEN he received this letter?!? She should have warned him of the attacker in the letter.

5)The very reason that this whole fiasco happened, was to protect the emperor from an attacker inside the palace...the protectors were Jo & Sujamal...n now both have abandoned him?...Suj with a promise to finish him off in the battlefield, & Jo, with a promise to crush him under his guilt trap...but only, & only if, the attacker does not finish him off first 😕 . Jo stood by Jalal during Ben track, when there was no fault of hers. Here, she began the MU.

In short, Jalalluddin Mohammad Akbar, it's high time you start "cleaning up" your Agra palace (removing people like Maham, Adham, Shareefuddin ) & making room for normal, civilised people.

PS: EK, it's high time you also start cleaning up your PH (begin with firing your JA creatives) 😆😉...this track was one big fiasco 😃

Edited by ---Khushi--- - 11 years ago

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Very nice analysis. You have raised many salient points that need attention.

Point 5 for me is the key. If the King's safety was so important that all this tamasha had to be done, then why abandon him now. Is that not a kartavya of a wife.

Some people are enamored by this portrayal of Jodha, I don't think so. The CV'S are butchering the character, they are showing her as shallow and unrepentant. As cold as ice and totally unable to understand the feelings of her husband.

It is only Jalal's obsessive love for her that is making her character relevant. Any other king or man would have said." Good riddance and goodbye from my life."

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Great post. I also was disappointed how they have shifted all the blame on Jalal and no apology at all in the letter regarding the vachan and lying that caused the MU.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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good post👍🏼😃
considering recent forum environment , i want 2 clarify dat i love both jalal nd jodha but mostly akdha as a whole nd here i m merely citing my pts regarding yest epi according 2 my pov..😛.
i was disappointed a bit abt dat letter😕

i agree wid u... jo was right in leaving😊... but d reasons included in dat letter were not totally apt...
she told him dat she didnt blame him... but d failure of d vivah vachans she cited came out as a reverse pschysology of putting d blame on him😔... i really liked dat she wanted 2 leave agra out of self respect nd his order😊 but dere was no need 2 put him in guilttrap... she was hurt terribly i agree nd sympathise, but she should also have seen d hurt nd pain in his eyestoo... she told him dat he saw wat only he wanted 2 see but d same can be said 4 her dat she saw only wat she wanted 2 see in his angry nd ruthless nd painful tirade on fri😲...
earlier i understood nd empathised wid jo dat she didnt know dat jallu has seen her at nights outs nd thus she couldnt understand his pain, anger etc... but yest. cvs butchered her character a bit in my opinion... she should have remembered those words in his tirade when he said dat he saw her late night meetings but trusted her enough dat one day she would come 4ward nd share it wid him... he was asking her even till d last moment abt d unknown persons identity nd was ready 2 believe her ...

she should have included in her letter dat she was was vachan bound 4 keeping silence nd he didnt want 2 hurt him...nd dat yes she was hurted nd devastated by his allegations badly but she was also sorry 4 d distance dat has crept up b/w them ... den d whole scene would have come out more strongly...
but i guess it could be argued dat she was hurted nd so poured out her pain nd expectations out in d letter😊

jallu was also wrong in not confronting her frankly earlier 😳nd later on bursting on her so strongly😒... poor girl wouldnt have known wat struck her b/w suja being in ks avataar, jallu finding her wid suja, his love, allegations, ruthless rapid fire wid her nd den atlast telling her 2 leave... she must have been so depressed😭dat d situaton got out of her control so suusenly nd she was left 2 wander aimlessly nd alone... she could go nowhere...

i would say both jalal nd jodha were right nd wrong equally in one aspect or d other😊... but mostly it was d execution which was wrong aided with d courtesy of d vamps😡...

when dis track started den it was good but d irrequired dragging of d track by d cvs ruined it nd took out d essence of it... d repitative late night meetings without finding d culprit, jo leaving d harem head post but not doing anything 2 nail d culprit, jo worried 4 jallus life nd deciding 2 keep dese meetings a secret 4 his own safety nd her brothers too but later on lazing abt dis pt... jallu knowing everything but not confronting her, stewing in his pain nd anger nd finally bursting her... totally illogical track indeed🥱

i had thought dat by d end of dis track atleast some of d conspirators may be nailed (namely shariffu) or atleast ma even 4 a bit... i hoped 4 mali 2 be dead ... but no progress on eliminating d villains at all...
if gone logically den dis track would have been solved so quickly but alas hw would dey insert drama😆😆😆

even adhams death is khichofied... they show one step 4ward den pause🤢...

anyways lets buck up our seat belts 2 see jallu devastated, crying buckets of tears😭, running helter-skelter 2 search 4 her ...meanwhile jo suffering alone den finally d reunion

(sorry 4 d very long post😳 🤗but i couldnt help myself nd wrote watver dat was running in my mind after yest. epi nd varrious posts in diff povs😉)
Edited by dodoneha - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Donjas

Very nice analysis. You have raised many salient points that need attention.

Point 5 for me is the key. If the King's safety was so important that all this tamasha had to be done, then why abandon him now. Is that not a kartavya of a wife.

Some people are enamored by this portrayal of Jodha, I don't think so. The CV'S are butchering the character, they are showing her as shallow and unrepentant. As cold as ice and totally unable to understand the feelings of her husband.

It is only Jalal's obsessive love for her that is making her character relevant. Any other king or man would have said." Good riddance and goodbye from my life."


That's elementary, my dear Donjas 😆... n above all, the CVs are misinterpreting self-respect for a QUEEN sized ego...pun intended 😉
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Posted: 11 years ago
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i also cannot support jodha much
she never felt that she was wrong here
she put all the blame on jalal
how convenient
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Kudos for this post ! 👏
I'm scratching my head on pt. no 5 😆. The reason for which all this mess was created is not at all important now, both Jo-Suja did not think anything can happen to Jalal unless and until the culprit is caught. Both have left Jalal proving and justifying themselves right. One thing is still not clear to me, did she leave after hearing the news of Sujamal-Jalal showdown or she left @ night itself. 😕 But I'm assuming she left before the dhishum-dhishum as it was night when she left her room with Kanha and the Moti advising Jodha scene was part of Jalal's daydream. Now if it is, then the whole purpose of the vachan goes to tel lagane 😆 Neither was Suja safe nor Jalal, then why did Jodha leave ? When Jodha has a license to break rules then there was no need to follow an Emperors order when his life and her brother's life both were in danger, she could have asked for an advice from Salima if not HB .CVs never thought about this! and yeh sab nahi hota to naya montage kaha se aata 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: rima4ever

i also cannot support jodha much

she never felt that she was wrong here
she put all the blame on jalal
how convenient


I am afraid its always the case. Jodha does what ever she wants and at the end of the day its Jalal who gets the blame.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shweta16

Kudos for this post ! 👏

I'm scratching my head on pt. no 5 😆. The reason for which all this mess was created is not at all important now, both Jo-Suja did not think anything can happen to Jalal unless and until the culprit is caught. Both have left Jalal proving and justifying themselves right. One thing is still not clear to me, did she leave after hearing the news of Sujamal-Jalal showdown or she left @ night itself. 😕 But I'm assuming she left before the dhishum-dhishum as it was night when she left her room with Kanha and the Moti advising Jodha scene was part of Jalal's daydream. Now if it is, then the whole purpose of the vachan goes to tel lagane 😆 Neither was Suja safe nor Jalal, then why did Jodha leave ? When Jodha has a license to break rules then there was no need to follow an Emperors order when his life and her brother's life both were in danger, she could have asked for an advice from Salima if not HB .CVs never thought about this! and yeh sab nahi hota to naya montage kaha se aata 😆


Good points raised up
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Posted: 11 years ago
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wooow khushi ... u nailed the analysis ... n i completely agree to each & every point of urs ...
I tried to give my analysis regarding this MU track i said why always jalal shud be made to feel guilty & to prove his love (though i knw he is also partly at fault) but why always HE ??? ... why jodha cannot accept her mistakes once & in this track even she is equally responsible for the mess along with her brother ...

but unfortunately jodha's fans where not happy with my thoughts ...😭
Edited by varshaakulkarni - 11 years ago

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