It does not add up-why is Swati so important?

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What does not add up is the importance and role of Swati between Ashlok. If she is really such an important character and has a role to play...CVs would have brought in an face, an actress to play her role. But they did not. Swati has always been a shadow and a silhouette.

And in the spoilers she will be shown to die...so again no role. Then why are they making her such an important piece between Shlok and Astha. It was one thing if Swati died long back...then Swati would be his past...its another if she is alive and comes back as competetion to Astha. Then Astha can leave Shlok and let him come back to Astha on his own.

But in this case of Swati dying now in front of Shlok and Astha...its too much of stuff to happen in a short timespan. And neither Shlok can move from past because Astha is very much a witness to him and Swati. And neither can Astha leave him thinking that he has someone else. Its such a sickening spot to be in for both of them. Astha has professed love so she cannot leave Shlok all of a sudden that too when he is in grief. At the same time after having witnessed Swati and Shlok together..she cannot go on with her marriage as if nothing happened.

I know its a spoiler and we should wait for the show..but these comments are made by actors themselves and not voiceovers.It could be a setup but then its not possible that Shlok cannot recognize Swati properly. So it must be Swati only. The only good thing that might come is that Shlok might be feeling guilty all along for killing Swati...so he need not feel guilty. if that is so.
But for Ashlok...this sequence spells doom. If it is he real Swati then Shlok will be in huge pain.
I would want Astha to now do her duty but separate herself from Shlok...and leave him in few days because she has to realize that a Shlok is not hers.

I am urged to say the track looks bad and wonder if CVs themselves are under bhang effect...this whole Swati Shlok Aditi sequences have been very wrongly envisaged ..they are from a man's POV it seems...the whole story seems to be like the ' Women of Shlok's life " and not Astha Shlok's story. Hope the makers have thought these things through..that the women of today do not want to see a mother Teresa in the heroine. Its one thing to love your husband and stand with him in his thick and thin. Its another to see him pining for a different woman and still live with him.
Hope the CVs have better surprises in store.
I am going to continue watching ..I want to see what is Shlok story ...but I would definitely want Astha to draw the line somewhere.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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agree to your words it not easy for anybody here astha to see her husband remembering another woman(swati) and here we see shlok seeing the woman and all his memories with her will definitely come back. But ultimately its shlok and astha love story so I want they show swati out of his life and memory as if she never existed
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Jalpari..
I am not letting the spoiler spoil my mood anymore , will see how it is shown when the actual epi is aired. I am however taking this particular spoiler as positive as the Swathi chapter needs to be closed with any further dragging. Shlok hated women, has developed a grudge for love due to this swathi chapter in his life. He has been believing till now that Swathi betrayed him and left with some other guy; so he inflicted all this pain on Astha. So, if Swathi has not done that his hatred on the name of 'love' will be gone and he has already started to slowly trust in due to Astha. So, now his redemption should start.
I also want Astha to draw a fine line now and want her leave him at least a shorter period of time. Then only he will realize his mistakes and her void in his life.
Edited by jia.astk - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: bluejalpari




What does not add up is the importance and role of Swati between Ashlok. If she is really such an important character and has a role to play...CVs would have brought in an face, an actress to play her role. But they did not. Swati has always been a shadow and a silhouette.

And in the spoilers she will be shown to die...so again no role. Then why are they making her such an important piece between Shlok and Astha. It was one thing if Swati died long back...then Swati would be his past...its another if she is alive and comes back as competetion to Astha. Then Astha can leave Shlok and let him come back to Astha on his own.

But in this case of Swati dying now in front of Shlok and Astha...its too much of stuff to happen in a short timespan. And neither Shlok can move from past because Astha is very much a witness to him and Swati. And neither can Astha leave him thinking that he has someone else. Its such a sickening spot to be in for both of them. Astha has professed love so she cannot leave Shlok all of a sudden that too when he is in grief. At the same time after having witnessed Swati and Shlok together..she cannot go on with her marriage as if nothing happened.

I know its a spoiler and we should wait for the show..but these comments are made by actors themselves and not voiceovers.It could be a setup but then its not possible that Shlok cannot recognize Swati properly. So it must be Swati only. The only good thing that might come is that Shlok might be feeling guilty all along for killing Swati...so he need not feel guilty. if that is so.
But for Ashlok...this sequence spells doom. If it is he real Swati then Shlok will be in huge pain.
I would want Astha to now do her duty but separate herself from Shlok...and leave him in few days because she has to realize that a Shlok is not hers.

I am urged to say the track looks bad and wonder if CVs themselves are under bhang effect...this whole Swati Shlok Aditi sequences have been very wrongly envisaged ..they are from a man's POV it seems...the whole story seems to be like the ' Women of Shlok's life " and not Astha Shlok's story. Hope the makers have thought these things through..that the women of today do not want to see a mother Teresa in the heroine. Its one thing to love your husband and stand with him in his thick and thin. Its another to see him pining for a different woman and still live with him.
Hope the CVs have better surprises in store.
I am going to continue watching ..I want to see what is Shlok story ...but I would definitely want Astha to draw the line somewhere.



I agree fully with you jalapari. The worst part was Aditi and Astha justifying Aditi's actions in the show. Whatever happened to Swati was not Astha's fault. Aditi is here to kill Astha. That girl should be behind bars , whatever her reason for giving pain to Shlok is . She has tried many times to kill Astha. It is different that Astha did not die, but this girl is a murderer - culpable homicide not amounting to murder yet ,and should be sent to jail. Taking the law in her own hands and trying to kill Astha so that Shlok will be in pain is a wrong message that Aditi is giving to the public.

One thing is sure though that Aditi is trying to kill Astha because she knows Shlok loves Astha and so he will be in pain. So does Aditi think that Shlok does not or did not love Swati? . Then this whole drama of Shlok crying and asking Swati not to leave him appears fake. The CVs have messed up the track and people like Aditi or proudly say in the segments that what they are doing is right and her actions are justified. That is terrible. That girl is outright here to kill Astha , so she is a murderer . Call police and hand her over to them . She should not be spared giving fake mental illness and revenge and Swati's pain as the cause and I would love to see her get good punishment , so that the public get the right message. Aditi does not have right to kill Shlok or Astha or anybody.

Swati being alive itself has killed the story. I agree Astha should walk out of Shlok's love. Let Slok brood over losing Swati for the rest of his life , the way Aditi wants and that dying Swati wants too. Aditi should spend rest of her life behind bars and Astha should marry Karan and get out of this misery and agony house. My pov. Bored of this horrible track and then even more nauseating are the statements about how these actions can be justified. Whatever happened to Swati, trying to kill Astha who did nothing to Swati cannot and should not be justified. I have been trying to refrain from writing since I knew I will not be able to praise this track even once but this is becoming too much now to bear or justify . How can this ever be good nayi soch since this is dangerous soch. My POV. Writing a negative post may be for the first time today , but facts are facts and nothing should be above justice.
Edited by Sg2013 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: jia.astk

Jalpari..

I am not letting the spoiler spoil my mood anymore , will see how it is shown when the actual epi is aired. I am however taking this particular spoiler as positive as the Swathi chapter needs to be closed with any further dragging. Shlok hated women, has developed a grudge for love due to this swathi chapter in his life. He has been believing till now that Swathi betrayed him and left with some other guy; so he inflicted all this pain on Astha. So, if Swathi has not done that his hatred on the name of 'love' will be gone and he has already started to slowly trust in due to Astha. So, now his redemption should start.
I also want Astha to draw a fine line now and want her leave him at least a shorter period of time. Then only he will realize his mistakes and her void in his life.



Thanks Jia and I agree to many things you said...it can be taken positively but that would mean that Shlok gave all this pain to Astha because as revenge of Swati...that would make him really physcho type..
And the idea was for AStha to bring back the trust...faith as in the word Astha...into his life that which he lost due to Swati. I think Swati lied to him about leaving him because she was terminally ill.
And the whole accident was a drama by his dad...
But all that is so many assumptions. Till now there is nothing in the show that has directly proved the relationship between NA and Swati death. Till now in fact they did not even clear to us that Swati was assumed dead by Shlok. All this cards, sindoor, bangles scenes so far...none of it will make sense. They did not yet clarify why Shlok chose Astha, and married her.
Anyway , fingers crossed.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sg2013


I agree fully with you jalapari. The worst part was Aditi and Astha justifying Aditi's actions in the show. Whatever happened to Swati was not Astha's fault. Aditi is here to kill Astha. That girl should be behind bars , whatever her reason for giving pain to Shlok is . She has tried many times to kill Astha. It is different that Astha did not die, but this girl is a murderer - culpable homicide not amounting to murder yet ,and should be sent to jail. Taking the law in her own hands and trying to kill Astha so that Shlok will be in pain is a wrong message that Aditi is giving to the public.

One thing is sure though that Aditi is trying to kill Astha because she knows Shlok loves Astha and so he will be in pain. So does Aditi think that Shlok does not or did not love Swati? . Then this whole drama of Shlok crying and asking Swati not to leave him appears fake. The CVs have messed up the track and people like Aditi or proudly say in the segments that what they are doing is right and her actions are justified. That is terrible. That girl is outright here to kill Astha , so she is a murderer . Call police and hand her over to them . She should not be spared giving fake mental illness and revenge and Swati's pain as the cause and I would love to see her get good punishment , so that the public get the right message. Aditi does not have right to kill Shlok or Astha or anybody.

Swati being alive itself has killed the story. I agree Astha should walk out of Shlok's love. Let Slok brood over losing Swati for the rest of his life , the way Aditi wants and that dying Swati wants too. Aditi should spend rest of her life behind bars and Astha should marry Karan and get out of this misery and agony house. My pov. Bored of this horrible track and then even more nauseating are the statements about how these actions can be justified. Whatever happened to Swati, trying to kill Astha who did nothing to Swati cannot and should not be justified. I have been trying to refrain from writing since I knew I will not be able to praise this track even once but this is becoming too much now to bear or justify . How can this ever be good nayi soch since this is dangerous soch. My POV. Writing a negative post may be for the first time today , but facts are facts and nothing should be above justice.



Thanks Suchi...very apt write up from you.They brought Aditi character in...and now are trying to justify ehr actions. Very wrong..as you see Aditi is a possible murderer and worse..Astha has to put up with her knowing that she tried to kill her. Love for your sister cannot be proved by making someone else misrable and by killing someone else. In fact if Swati really loved Shlok, she would want him to be happy.
CVs have not at all handles Shlok's past and present properly. The whole valentine sequence and Shlok on terrace letting go of the bangles and sindoor etc...the card that takes Shlok to the tennis court...all that..is that just rubbish? And if thats not out the door then what is Shlok doing with Astha. Agreed that Astha has tried her level best to bring him out of his gloom even without knowing his past...but why did he marry her in the first place...
Not only a lot of our HAS comes to a standstill at this point...but also the entire possibility of a decent trustworthy love story between Astha and Shlok comes to a standstill.
Shlok always kept Astha in the dark..and now the reality that will surface is even more difficult.

I thought that if hey adapt Rebecca the novel , it will hard to watch..but this is much harder than Rebecca. Here the hero's first love is neither competetion to AStha nor is she dead. She will die now. Then what is Astha's situation.

Agree..for the first time I feel Astha should get another guy...

I wonder if the storywriters had a very good material at first but tried to stretch the story ...added characters like Aditi and alive Swati...and in stretching it..they have killed it.
Its been four months or five..since Suhaag Raat where Shlok showed his bad persona. We do not have a closure to that or answers to that as yet. Wonder if the CVs have the decency and guts to ensure similar 5-6 months where Astha puts down Shlok and he runs after her and woos her.
I do not think..the CVS who are writing the story from very male POV are going to incorportate that.
We wanted either good reasons why Shlok married Astha ( as in to protect her..) or we wanted redemption.
I think we are going to get neither...Shlok is going to wallow in his past love and self pity and anger...and Astha is going to keep falling in love with that...and support him.

Is pyar ko kya naam doon...really.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Shlok is the way he is an angry young man who hates women all due to swati --that's in a nutshell --otherwise Shlok would be a normal happy go lucky guy
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: bluejalpari



Thanks Suchi...very apt write up from you.They brought Aditi character in...and now are trying to justify ehr actions. Very wrong..as you see Aditi is a possible murderer and worse..Astha has to put up with her knowing that she tried to kill her. Love for your sister cannot be proved by making someone else misrable and by killing someone else. In fact if Swati really loved Shlok, she would want him to be happy.
CVs have not at all handles Shlok's past and present properly. The whole valentine sequence and Shlok on terrace letting go of the bangles and sindoor etc...the card that takes Shlok to the tennis court...all that..is that just rubbish? And if thats not out the door then what is Shlok doing with Astha. Agreed that Astha has tried her level best to bring him out of his gloom even without knowing his past...but why did he marry her in the first place...
Not only a lot of our HAS comes to a standstill at this point...but also the entire possibility of a decent trustworthy love story between Astha and Shlok comes to a standstill.
Shlok always kept Astha in the dark..and now the reality that will surface is even more difficult.

I thought that if hey adapt Rebecca the novel , it will hard to watch..but this is much harder than Rebecca. Here the hero's first love is neither competetion to AStha nor is she dead. She will die now. Then what is Astha's situation.

Agree..for the first time I feel Astha should get another guy...

I wonder if the storywriters had a very good material at first but tried to stretch the story ...added characters like Aditi and alive Swati...and in stretching it..they have killed it.
Its been four months or five..since Suhaag Raat where Shlok showed his bad persona. We do not have a closure to that or answers to that as yet. Wonder if the CVs have the decency and guts to ensure similar 5-6 months where Astha puts down Shlok and he runs after her and woos her.
I do not think..the CVS who are writing the story from very male POV are going to incorportate that.
We wanted either good reasons why Shlok married Astha ( as in to protect her..) or we wanted redemption.
I think we are going to get neither...Shlok is going to wallow in his past love and self pity and anger...and Astha is going to keep falling in love with that...and support him.

Is pyar ko kya naam doon...really.


Yes i know i wrote too that this is rebecca and Aditi is mrs danvers, but whoever whatever she is , Shlok crying with Swati dying in front of him is yuck. Shlok then deserves yo live a horrible life for the rest of his life with agony agnihotris as he had no right to hurt Astha so much. He is not redeemable then. I frankly do not know what to say. I was hoping that Aditi would tell Shlok that she was there to make Shlok move forward , but she is here to kill Astha , so this Aditi can flaunt about her positive role , but if that is positive , then what is negative. Outright shooting, hanging and burning people ? Is that what she calls negative? What nayi soch ? The CVs really need to work hard to justify lot of things and not give wrong messages to the viewers in the name of Aditi and Swati.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: devina22

Shlok is the way he is an angry young man who hates women all due to swati --that's in a nutshell --otherwise Shlok would be a normal happy go lucky guy



So he hates Astha and his mother for the same reason. Then why did her marry Astha.
And whats the point in having Swati die in front of them , now.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: bluejalpari



So he hates Astha and his mother for the same reason. Then why did her marry Astha.
And whats the point in having Swati die in front of them , now.


Have not seen the spoiler Astha shloks hates as he thinks she insulted his baba and angeli he hates because he thinks she is responsible for his breakup with swati nd swati Shlok hates because she rejected him ---so for him all woman are bad

The reason Shlok married Astha as that's how he takes revenge --marry Astha and reject her
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