The no-career girls of BV/ Earnings of a Civil Servant - pg8

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Education or no-education I hardly found any of the BVian girls with a solid career. Be it Anandi, Sugna, choti Maa, Ira or Sanchi; all have little fate in this area. Ganga might be the only one who has freshly started a career. Let's see how long she can sustain this. The only one different might be Ashima, and Gauri however they have been sent away long back with bag and baggage. Though different in personalities, the only common factor among all of them is never forgetting the "Sholah Shringar".

Why is it so, have we ever thought?


Who are the real viewers of BV afterall?

The handful indiaforum and other forum writers?

No people, had it been so,


1. Pratyusha never would have quit the show, (considering the number of forum members opposed this)
2. Sanchi would have left for ever, (the same)
3. Sanchi should have been given some room to herself after rape rather than thinking of marriage,
4. Gauri would have been shown even if replaced by another actress (many of us requested this)
5. Anandi could have been an MLA or IAS officer by now (again many of us dreamed it and wrote it to colors)


I think the massive amount of viewers of BV, live not in abroad, nor in metros but in rural India, where for people it's really tough to imagine a girl manage her career along with home; where doing Seva of her in-laws is the biggest Dharma of a Naree and at every step the female is supposed to seek permission of her in-laws.

The second reson which comes to my mind is, the writers are good at sketching the life of a Bahu, a taunting sister-in-law, mother-in-law blah blah blah. However may be it's tougher for them to portray the life of a lady as a leader, an IAS officer, a doctor or someone with extra-odinary personality.

What you say people?

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Edited on 17th March

People,

I take back my second assumption that writers of the daily shows find it tough to portray an extra-odinary woman with a solid career. Last night I read a novel "The Edge of Desire" (http://www.amazon.in/The-Edge-Desire-Tuhin-Sinha/dp/9350094436?tag=googinhydr13049-21) a best-seller novel by Tuhin Sinha. The story depicts the journey of Shruti Rajan, a journalist who after her recent marriage to an IAS officer has been gang-raped by few goons and with some twists and turns enters into politics. The lady transforms her curse to her identity, she first becomes a member of Lok Sabha and then becomes deputy home minister. The story has been narrated so beautifully, I did not know how the whole night passed without a break from me. Just have a go though the teaser promo and you would feel it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWRDXaGDP4s

To my surprise this writer who has also been the writer to great scripts for movies and TV; also is the writer of the show "Yeh Rishta Kya Kehlata Hai" which focuses on the daily happenings within the household of an Udaipur family. So finally it's the TRP and not the skill of the writer which works on the tele serials. All their charishma and creativity takes a back seat before the evergreen SAS-BAHU tamasha.

love
D.

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Edited 19th March 2014

What an IAS's wife do!


I can see loads of debates on glorification of home-makers as well as working women. One thing I must say, that we are all grown ups and we see the world as per our own experiences. We see only things that our brain perceives. We see the world through our own eyes and not through others.


At the same time I must tell you something interesting. Have any of you come in contact with I.A.S officers? Do you know what their wives do? Well in my past I have worked in many Govt. projects and in the processed visited the Parliament and north block in Delhi. I have also met many I.A.S officers at work and known their wives in parties. Most of them, rather all the ones that I know are house-wives. Mostly they are extremely goodlooking and convent educated females usually educated in Arts with literature or political science as their main subjects; they are the ones whom the man can accompany and showcase to the world proudly.

An IAS like SRS would be allocated a two bedroom flat in the central Delhi and are provided with official help too. The wife does not have to cook or do anything apart may be looking after the kid for homework and wait for husband's arrival from work. Some of them whose children are big enough and need no more assistance, watch tele or attend clubs and gossip around, few of them associate themshelves into NGOs and charity too.

I.A.S and I.F.S. officers mostly marry home-makers due to the transferable nature of their job. For I.A.S officers it could be anywhere in India and for I.F.S.(Indian foreign service) officers it's anywhere in the world.

So considering this, Shiv's choice was not bad after all. If he had married the much enthusiastic Sanchi, she might have been deligted for few weeks/months. However after the honeymoon period, would have felt bored to death after knowing her prospects in a small town or village that her husband is posted.

Earnings of a Civil servant

Even if we forget the self-esteem stuff for few minutes; I really wonder how a well-educated intelligent lady would prefer to be a pure home-maker for ever. Life comes with strange surprises. Even if we are blessed with a loving, caring husband with good source of income, we would never know the future. I have heard few very horrible stories during my stay in U.K.

There the young ladies never quit their work, come what may. They have seen their mothers who used to be pure housewives up to 70s and then their men quit them for another woman by their late 40s and 50s. The divorce laws then were not strong enough to protect housewives then. Also after a shock of lifetime, not always a woman is left with guts to fight back.

Later some 10 years back I had read this in papers that a well-known billionaire in USA divorced his wife in his 50s and went for a girl as young as his daughter. They had been in a marriage for 25 years and had grown-up children to consider. The wife was always a home-maker. The court ordered the guy for a compensation of 50% of his assets. Yes, its true as per laws, even a housewife is entitled to 50% of the money that the husband earns.


Coming to the salary part of a husband, let me brief you an incident which happened to me few years back. I was working for a Govt project in "Ministry of External affairs" in central Delhi and during those days I met an I.F.S. officer(diplomat) who was similar to my age. The guy was extremely handsome, spoke English with an accent just as an Angrej and had an outstanding personality. However one day I was surprised with what he told me. It was an official meeting where I had to discuss the status of the project and I said that even if we are bit behind the schedule we would definitely finish it off within the specified timeline. We are working till 8.30 PM everyday.

The officer said
"Miss Debbie, I really am surprised. You IT people earn so much, you must be getting a salary more than double that I get. See you come to office in a sedan and you got a driver too whereas I have only a small Santro. For whatever I get as compensation, I work for 7-8 hours . You all should work at least 12-14 hours a day and leave by 11 pm"

Then I realised how frustrated he was. If a civil servant lives an honest life of no-bribe, that to with a housewife, life would be a bare minimum in a place like Delhi. His wife was non-working and he had a small kid too. Before joining the current job, he was working for an USA based IT MNC and earned big money.
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-poloenigma- thumbnail
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I don't think actors quitting/getting replaced comes into question in this referance. :)
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I agree with most of what youbare saying except thevreasons for actors quitting. You ar ansolutely right about women's life revolving around in laws. Even though it is becoming different in
Educated urban middle class. People commenting on board are among the small population of India.
I have noticed Hindi serials show too much decking up of female characters. It is really unrealitic.
They dont portray ordinary working middle class.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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The fact is BV might be somewhat better than other serials - but they do not want to deviate from the tried and tested formula of saas-bahu. The ladies who have a career are always below their husband - the one who was equal (even better) than her husband was made negative and got separated from her husband. Ganga may be working - but did they ever show her assisting any other than her own husband? Did they ever show her getting reprimanded by senior nurse or some other doctor? Sanchi never thought of a career even after doing MBA - neither did her family ever thought about this. So let us accept - BV will be like this only - education for getting married - career just to show some filler tracks, otherwise, after marriage only sewa and 'taking care' of family as the only career for women.


And I agree with Theepetronauss, there is no relation with career of women in BV and the actresses and replacements.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I assume I have not put it clearly.
What I said that, considering the amount of requests the forum members have sent for the below cases and the CVs not listening to any of the pleas, I assume that their main target has been viewers of rural India and not we handful viewers who raise our voice in IF or other forums.

1. Pratyusha never would have quit the show, (considering the number of forum members opposed this)
2. Sanchi would have left for ever, (the same)
3. Sanchi should have been given some room to herself after rape rather than thinking of marriage,
4. Gauri would have been shown even if replaced by another actress (many of us requested this)
5. Anandi could have been an MLA or IAS officer by now (again many of us dreamed it and wrote it to colors)
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@TM, your edited post is more clear - the examples of what forum members wanted and what actually happened. Yes, views of forum members will never decide the content of a serial - either BV or any other serial. Forum members- the internet savvy people are a minor part of viewership of any serial (forum members can discuss the serial based on written update without even watching the serial), so their views are not that important for creatives.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@TM Why so much bias against women who make their life revolve around their family????
Is it important to be a doctor,IAS officer or something to be an extraordinary personality ?????
May I know how many doctors, IAS officers or someone who has a career are found to be extraordinary?????
Lastly what is so extraordinary about having a career in medicine public service or politics??????
Extraordinariness comes from a person who works towards a better life of one own self and the people around him/her.It doesn't matter whether the person is a house wife doctor nurse collector social worker or a politician. Extraordinainess comes from within and not because of the position they hold or the degrees they have.If positions like doctor police officer collector social worker or politician are the ones made extraordinary personality we wouldn't be looking at politicians with contempt doctors with a suspicion and all the collectors and policeofficers would have been respected and honoured we wouldn't be reading stories about corrupt IAS officers and unethical govt officials
Talking about Gauri what is so extraordinary
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This bahu taunting SIL and mother in law are much less visible in this show than in any other show.
BV makers did chose family drama to convey what they wanted to convey.
To begin with they chose a little girl with her own thoughts had questioning the validity of age old traditions and customs which were followed by the matriarch of the family and initiated a change of process through that Saas bahu drama that took place.
Later on they took the girl who is self taught and never left her village and put her in a family which considers itself educated modern and liberal and they used this village educated girl to question the so called modernity and the meaning of education and progressive thinking. All this is packaged as a family drama in the form a bahu coming from a village and the city educated snobbish SIL and her so called educated liberal MIL. The conflicts were because of the different perspectives they have.
If you want to see this show as just a family drama where bahu is just carrying trays are doing oil massage of her MIL's feet then that's all it will seem like.
One should be able to see beyond what is shown to understand the story.In BV they have shown people are in conflict with each other because of their line of thinking and mind set.
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It may not be tough to sketch characters like doctor, nurse collector police officer and politician it is about sketching characters who comes closest to the lives of the viewers that's why bahus MILS and DILS are created.
A show like BV it found acceptance with the metros first.This is told by none other than Mr Purnendu Shekhar creator of the character Anandi and Dadisa.Simply because colors was available only in metros and big cities.Even now most of the colors channel viewers are urban not rural population because the channel has not yet penetrated the villages completely.
The reasons for quitting of an actor incomplete story of an other actor and inability to find acceptance of an other character has got nothing to do with the likes of India forums.
One more thing people who come to India forums and make their posts here are very much Indians and just as Indian as any other Indian.People who come to India forum are just a bunch of people who have internet access.I don't think their views are any different from the rest of the people's views.
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Debbiee🤗
Came to BV forum after long..and saw your 'intellectual' post. Couldnt help but comment.

I agree with you partially. Its not the 'janta' abroad or IF people who decide the TRPs..or actually watch the show, but the people for who the characters hold the prime importance, rather than the actors who play them, atleast for Balika Vadhu.

So, if the women in the show don't have a solid career...blame it on the Indian mindset that women need to take care of the household first, and then of their career. Having said that, I, by no means, can belittle the efforts that go into being a home maker. Its a 24*7 job...

And its a fact...we all will applaud Draupadi for her strength...but at the end would want to be like Sita..

The IF audience isn't a decider for anything...or for that matter, the specific audience who just wants to bash. Had it been so, Pratyusha would never have gone...I agree with ya on that.

But then...the show runs on TVTs and TRPs...and its a fact that a crying Anandi attracts more of them...
A show like 'Desh ki beti..Nandini' doesn't work.. But 'Saath Nibhaana Saathiya' rocksss 🤔

The Indian audience is guided by emotions... My MIL, who is an American, loves that I work in one of the leading news networks... And know what my khaala says? She says, "Leave your job.. You need to take care of your husband. He is in a tough job."

And my maasi, who lives in Ajmer, doesn't even care about what Pratyusha was...she is in love with AnSh..and thats why she still watches Balika Vadhu... Same with me!

With this I remember, once Ekta Kapoor said, "Women in movies are fantasized while men are idolized...and in TV, women are idolized and men fantasized..." And there lies all the strategy behind the 'creative freedom'.. Hehe!

And the history speaks for itself.. Tulsi, Parvati, Anandi...the list goes on..
Home makers rockkk 😉
Edited by QuagMyred - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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OMG!! Myraa di 😲 haha but I totally agree with your post 😊
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Originally posted by: Theepetronauss

OMG!! Myraa di 😲 haha but I totally agree with your post 😊


Why so shocked?😛

Thanks for agreeing 😊

I am a proud AnSh fan 😳😉 and Shiv fan 😆

p.s. I am not talking to myself. Right Palie? 😃
Edited by QuagMyred - 11 years ago

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