Why is Jalal ignoring MA?

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Posted: 11 years ago
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There was a time when Jalal took a decision (to assign subedars) without consulting MA and she was so offended that she emotionally blackmailed him into promising he would always consult her before every decision.
But have you noticed it's been so many weeks (if not months) since Jalal consulted her about anything and she's keeping happily quiet. It's as if she is no longer the Wazir-e-Aliya! Jalal is taking his own decisions or consulting Atga who has now replaced MA completely as Jalal's advisor and confidante. MA can hardly be seen in DEK also - it's mostly an all-guys affair these days. She's keeping a low profile and talking only to or scheming with Ruq or AK. What's wrong with her?

In fact, Jalal seems to be totally ignoring her. He doesn't even go to her with personal problems or for emotional support. Does anyone remember the last time Jalal met MA? Now he goes to HB, Atga, Jodha, MH or Salima but never MA. Why?

Is it that Jalal is ignoring MA because Ben had accused her of assisting her (Ben) in getting close to Jalal? Does he feel that MA's foolishness had nearly cost him and Jodha their lives?

Does he realize at least partially her true face? And why is MA not reacting to Jalal's withdrawal?

Any thoughts, anyone?

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Posted: 11 years ago
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End of Maham is near.😊
She is perhaps portrayed to lose her influence on Jalal.
Atga Khan will rise.

Rest story is here:
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/102185680


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Radhika very thought provoking post

I think the 1st incident I remember where Jalal was irritated with MA was when Ruk changed Jodha's hojara and asked her to vacate
Jodha was almost in tears holding her Kanha and Jalal taunted her, after hearing the reason when he started talking with Rukayya - MA rushed in and defended Rukayya. Jalal was cut off with her then for sure.

As for Ben - Jalal CLEARLY did not want to marry Ben. It was MA who made the tamasha in DEK and Rukayya supported MA.
Ben accused MA of supporting Rukayya openly.

Jalal is by nature very forgiving especially when it comes to those he loves and clearly he loves Ruk & MA

When Jalal apologized to Jodha after she recovered, Ruk & MA made fuming faces.

I think maybe Jalal has considered that Rukayya did not have the grace to apologize to Jodha for the insults in DEK not did Rukayya apologize to Jalal after almost getting him killed by goading him to marry Ben, no I feel sorry I got you here from Rukayya.

MA has not even BOTHERED to show a pretense of shame or consideration to Jalal that she regrets almost harming him, getting Ben to him

I have noticed after her near death JODHA HAS NOT UTTERED A SINGLE WORD TO MA. Jodha is civil and respectful to Rukayya mostly, even on Sikri trip when Ruk was insulting

Jodha does not talk with MA and Jalal who has carried this hurt inside has stopped going to MA for anything

Did you notice during the entire time when Jodha was on deathbed NOT A SINGLE PERSON THERE MAN OR WOAMN talked with MA or asked for her opinion, everybody knew she hated Jodha. Jalal also went to HB for comfort NOT MA.

I guess in his own mind Jalal knows MA hates Jodha so he is not trusting her judgement now, after MA almost got him killed by giving Ben so free an access to him

If not for Jodha, Ben would have succeeded and MA would have been the reason

I want to see Jalal SEE THE REAL MA NOT JUST IGNORE HER
Also I think Jalal has started doubting Adham and so not asking for MA's opinion

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Posted: 11 years ago
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I think her end is approaching, that's why they are preparing us. 😉
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: history_geek

End of Maham is near.😊
She is perhaps portrayed to lose her influence on Jalal.
Atga Khan will rise.

Rest story is here:
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/102185680




Abhay are you here incognito today too?!!!
BTW what is near, please do not say 2-3 months😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: MaddyO

Radhika very thought provoking post

I think the 1st incident I remember where Jalal was irritated with MA was when Ruk changed Jodha's hojara and asked her to vacate
Jodha was almost in tears holding her Kanha and Jalal taunted her, after hearing the reason when he started talking with Rukayya - MA rushed in and defended Rukayya. Jalal was cut off with her then for sure.

As for Ben - Jalal CLEARLY did not want to marry Ben. It was MA who made the tamasha in DEK and Rukayya supported MA.
Ben accused MA of supporting Rukayya openly.

Jalal is by nature very forgiving especially when it comes to those he loves and clearly he loves Ruk & MA


He even forgave his enemies in real life many times

When Jalal apologized to Jodha after she recovered, Ruk & MA made fuming faces.

I think maybe Jalal has considered that Rukayya did not have the grace to apologize to Jodha for the insults in DEK not did Rukayya apologize to Jalal after almost getting him killed by goading him to marry Ben, no I feel sorry I got you here from Rukayya.

MA has not even BOTHERED to show a pretense of shame or consideration to Jalal that she regrets almost harming him, getting Ben to him

Actually this is a flaw in the show. No follow-ups. How people react to what has happened, is almost very rarely shown. If you notice HB did not visit Jo after she recovered, which is very funny considering how concerned HB is for Jo. And even Rahim was not shown either when Jo was on deathbed or later. He is so fond of his choti ammijan, would he have kept away? There are many instances like this.

I have noticed after her near death JODHA HAS NOT UTTERED A SINGLE WORD TO MA. Jodha is civil and respectful to Rukayya mostly, even on Sikri trip when Ruk was insulting

Maybe Jo is upset with MA for putting Jalal's life in danger the way she is upset with her father for embarrassing Jalal in the Shivani case.

Jodha does not talk with MA and Jalal who has carried this hurt inside has stopped going to MA for anything

Did you notice during the entire time when Jodha was on deathbed NOT A SINGLE PERSON THERE MAN OR WOAMN talked with MA or asked for her opinion, everybody knew she hated Jodha. Jalal also went to HB for comfort NOT MA.

I guess in his own mind Jalal knows MA hates Jodha so he is not trusting her judgement now, after MA almost got him killed by giving Ben so free an access to him

If not for Jodha, Ben would have succeeded and MA would have been the reason

I want to see Jalal SEE THE REAL MA NOT JUST IGNORE HER
Also I think Jalal has started doubting Adham and so not asking for MA's opinion


MA's end can only come after AK's. And that may come only after Malwa battle. I don't know if Jalal ever came to know her real face. He got tombs built for her and AK also.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: MaddyO



Abhay are you here incognito today too?!!!
BTW what is near, please do not say 2-3 months😆


ok then 2-3 years 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: history_geek

End of Maham is near.😊
She is perhaps portrayed to lose her influence on Jalal.
Atga Khan will rise.

Rest story is here:
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/102185680



but she doesn't know that! why is she taking it so calmly?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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a very well said post
well seems that ma is more happy brainwashing ruq
may be she does not feel like going to jalal
or may be she is trying to control jalal through ruq
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Guess Maham has swapped jobs & become harem- e-aaliya 🤣 . But on a serious note , though it wasn't shown us, Jalal is displeased I guess with MA s involvement in the Ben kaand & Jo s hojra issue too & before that , mainly for Adham s behaviour in Tasneem track & MA s support. So it s a variety of things that s Jalal s been noticing till now making him distance himself a little from MA now. 😕

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