HA! face the real world :)

Point 1 -

Keep on doing karma don't worry of the result!

Why sir, if no result why should one continue doing karma. Okay if while doing karam results are not positive..... for encouragement u can say that. But if karma is only done to achieve fruit then whats wrong, if fruit doesn;t come ur way then there is something wrong don't continue doing karm.

Point 2 -

No matter who is front of you speak, if CEO is saying something wrong don't hesitate speak up, as sach ki hamesha vijay hoti hai.

Question for debate::

- Should a person go against basic golden rules layed by society to expect gain by expecting results out of karma and benefitted by saying the lie?

- "Satyameva Jayate" needs reconsideration?

Originally posted by: egghatcher

ditto .... and it is my downfall on the forum as well😉

Originally posted by: raksha.l

How can doing the right thing be a downfall???

Ex. you and your boss ... boss has made some mistake; you can't criticize your boss can you? Either will be appreciated or considered egotistic, and risk losing your job or be a sore in your boss's eyes😆. Somethign to that accord I guess.

Originally posted by: egghatcher

ditto .... and it is my downfall on the forum as well😉

You need not do buttering to be appreciated, neither is it required to prevent downfall. If you can't do buttering, you shouldn't do slandering also. With a siggy anagram saying 'up yours mystic jalkanya' what do you expect, people should hail that person.🤢

Originally posted by: reeps

[quote]siggy anagram saying 'up yours mystic jalkanya' what do you expect, people will hail you [/quote]

lol, you point it out, so I read; took some time to figure out what is being said. Gross!

And for soumya 🤗 ... why do you have my age committed to memory? 🤣

Persy

You're referring to the ladoo-wala post ain't it.😆 I remembered you're younger than me, though I did double check before I posted.😳

Originally posted by: reeps

I might not be answering you questions, but I dont think it is possible to go by truth all the time, and say what is on one's mind to all. It gets one in trouble. Also, buttering other people seem to be a good skill to have. Unfortunately, I can't do either. 😆 😆

Right! its wierd ain't it?, thoughts we project or preach knowing that they are not going work in today's world.

Oh how I missed this one?

I have my firm belief that we should never lie. Agree there are sometimes when you see that speaking truth may hurt you, but we can try to be quiet if we have an option, if not speaking truth is always the best option. No matter what you try, sooner or later, truth always comes out so it's good not to lie & speak truth. People in the end trust you and we never have to think twice before speaking as truth is always truth. Never have worry what we said before as truth will never change.

Yes we get back what we do. We all have to face consequnces of our karma. Many time in short run you may see some people doing bad may succeed and people doing good may be defeated but what we forget is there are many other things attached to it... there is kahavat too...'paap ka ghada bhar kar phootata hai' basically they get no chance to survive once downfalls come for them but for good people you do one thing bad right there you face the consequence, so you don't fall. For me it gives me satisfaction too that I did the right thing and which matters a lot to me.

So Anshu I do firmly believe in speaking truth & doing good karma without thinking of results, as they will be there sooner or later. I can't lie even on virtual world...I may chose to stay away that's it...

Originally posted by: raj5000

Point 1 -

Keep on doing karma don't worry of the result!

Why sir, if no result why should one continue doing karma. Okay if while doing karam results are not positive..... for encouragement u can say that. But if karma is only done to achieve fruit then whats wrong, if fruit doesn;t come ur way then there is something wrong don't continue doing karm.

The fruits you reap are from the seeds you sow. There is always that chance you are not actually doing your karma or duty in the manner in which it ought to be done or IT can be done. There is always that chance that you dont need the fruit now, but actually one week later and it shall come drop in your lap when you need it the most.

I dont believe one should do things with the expectation of obtaining a fruit or reward or something in return.... which means you are putting a condition on your very act... your action has a price tag of "the reward" and if the reward is not to your expectation, then follows the disappointment.
Instead if you do things/ your duty the way you think it fit and proper and accept the rewards which come your way as the fitting tribute to your action, contentment sets in, and with it comes happiness. (this contentment is not the one that is accompanied by complacency, but what I mean is the peace of mind)

Point 2 -

No matter who is front of you speak, if CEO is saying something wrong don't hesitate speak up, as sach ki hamesha vijay hoti hai.

Speak the truth, but in a manner which is palatable. Kadwa sach hurts the stomach at times😊

Question for debate::

- Should a person go against basic golden rules layed by society to expect gain by expecting results out of karma and benefitted by saying the lie?

No. Answered above. I believe each of us receive the fruits of our actions in this very life time itself. So why not do as much to make the fruit as sweet as possible, without worrying when it will come, for its arrival was never in question, just its ETA is a bit blurred at times.

- "Satyameva Jayate" needs reconsideration?

No. Truth always wins, provided one gives time for it to win. If you stop the game before it is over, the fault cant be of Truth.