The Sin Of Jai Walia by the creatives

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Disclaimer: Please would like only Adults to respond to this.


In literature there is a notion that human heroes are flawed and their flaw
is their own undoing. The human hero grows in wisdom about self and
about the world through the pain which is a result of his failure, sin and
as a reminder of his failure will keep him far from sin in the future.

This is not a Jai Walia bashing post. It simply is a discussion on the one
choice that he made that lead to the darkest hour of his life, his fall from
grace: His sin. With a sound mind snatching the newborns away from
Bani, the mother, thus snatching Bani's right of a mother away from her.
She never was given a chance to bond with her newborns. (Please do not
discuss legalities here or the madhouse situation—that is not the issue-
we are discussing only his actions)
(At this point Bani still trusted him, based on the look she gave him. He
could have passed her a note. Or a look. Or since he is a powerful
businessman made arrangements for her. He had promised noone would
ever separate them and he will always protect her. He could have said
something unless he was wire tapped by Repto--He still decided to be
cruel hearted and took the children away while leaving her dumfounded,
to be taken back to the mental asylum)
Can any woman ever imagine that, her rich and powerful husband, the
man whom she loved with all her heart and soul, the man she trusted with
all her life was not even able to provide her an explanation as to his
actions.

We are aware of the choices presented to him. He chose to send Bani to
the mental asylum for 5 years in order for her to be kept alive, (he should
have known better by now that Repto was out for Bani's life, she would
have killed her after JP marriage). Repto just wanted Bani alive to use as
leverage for her blackmail. Repto eventually would have killed Bani. What
does one call what Repto did to Bani if not a 'murder'?

There was a scene last week with two newborns on the bed crying and
Maasi walks in and Jai Walia blames God for what is happening. (God has
blessed this man with more resources than a normal person could ever
imagine). That's natural most of us would blame God but then most of us
would try to be proactive. Finally, when he hears of Bani's death, he
kneels infront of God and again blames God.

(Jai Walia had the resources to call the women's organization to halt JP
marriage but he couldn't find the resources to send an explanation to his
own wife-thats all Bani wanted was an explanation for his actions).

In the 5 year leap episode Maasi is shown praying to God day and night
for forgiveness for what Jai Walia did to Bani. Yes, he is responsible for
snatching the children away from their own mother and he is responsible
for Bani's hatred, her vengence. He was her husband. Her God. Her
Ram.

Bani's new avatar is of *Durga – the Mother Goddess. Her role is no
longer of Sita, the wife. Durga comes back for her children, for her haque
as a mother. Jai Walia could have done more for his wife –yes he could
have, he should have, and we know he would have but the creatives tied
his hands up—why?
(We are not discussing the Repto blackmail here—
just simply reflecting on the actions of a husband, a man relating to that
particular scene in question and the aftermath of that action which he has
to has to live with everyday of his life)

The Sin of Jai Walia is that of tearing the newborn children of a mother
away from her. Why do you think he was given this scenario by the
creatives? How are the creatives ever going to explain this scenario? Why
was there such a need by the creatives to massacare this character, What
and Who for? The Repto?.

*Durga is an incarnation of Devi, or the mother Goddess a unified symbol
of all divine forces. Durga means "invincible" in Sanskrit. She is a warrior
goddess to destroy evil, cruelty.

We are just just as disappointed as any JB fan on this forum regarding
what the creatives have done to Jai Walia and are trying to discuss the
need of this particularly cruel, brutal action of a husband.

(Rivs and Bavie(AP)) Thank You Krishna for your thoughts.
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Thanks Bavie...

Guys...we are really concerned with how brutally JW has been butchered for the last 6 months...and so we wanted to bring this up to you...

I know we have a lot of JW defenders....but the idea of this post if to make them see that JW has indeed been murdered for entertainment...and so we should compel the kreatives to clean up their act...

Redeem him...Rivs

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Wow, great post guys. JW has in the long standing tradition of all Balaji heroes reduced to a shadow of his former self. A helpless hopeless man who could not lift a finger to help his wife and children.
Yes, he deserves to be redeemed and quickly.
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Posted: 18 years ago
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gr8 post.. gr8 discussion 👏 i think if most of us started watching this show - if not for JB.. it was for Jai Walia - that one character.. that just left u amazed.. by his avataar - d look.. d minds.. d brain.. d power he posessed.. i mean he had everythingggg.. he was just i guess wat one would want to be like.. witout a doubt..

even after d forced wedding wit bani - they kept him high and strong.. which was just amazing.. of course he started melting down.. but still posessed that same 'power'.. over everyone.. which made him stand out.. and again - we loved him.. cuz he was just WOW... left one breathless

thenn somewhere down d line PR came in our lives - i don't know y d creatives even thought of PR - cuz it ended up being one of d bigest bloopers of KS.. i mean Jai Walia changed.. he took a 180 degree turn.. not whole of 360.. as he was still that angry.. had his brains for some parts.. guy

then pia happened (ONS).. and d 180 turn.. made itself a compete 360 turns.. and Jai Walia - im sorry but who's Jai Walia?? cuz d person's not even d same anymore.. now he's shown to be COMPLETELY brainless - sorry to say but true.. his 'power' and well his 'power' or that certain enthusiasm/rage he had in him.. makin him different from d rest had vanished.. in one go..

they destroyed his beliefs too - i mean as far as i remember.. jai walia wanted to get married - once he was married.. he wanted to settle down and stay married foreva to that one person not go divorcing around.. even when he was forced to marry bani - he neva wanted to divorce her - well he did but for her good😕 so they destroyed his beliefs .. as well as him after ONS

and then now.. of course i mean he could've.. he should've done LOTS more to signal bani somehow to tell her.. he's doin this for her own good.. for their good.. but NOPE .. he was shown to be a whole a lot of mix of jaidas, not much of joru ka ghulam but a definete katputli (is that how u say it) - u know - dance to ur tunes.. tell me when and where i mean that too for REPTILE - come on.. and we called her peabrain safe to say - she seems to be shown wit more brains that mr. walia

i mean how easily she used her 'di' to get Jai Walia to his feet.. she destroyed him so much.. that he was crying and begging in front of HER.. i mean i don't know maybe d 'kreatives' r pia's fans.. or something.. cuz surely they have something against Jai Walia.. to destroy him like that

even now after d leap.. yes d raging bull is bac.. but is he really back??? 🤔 🤔 🤔 if he is... y's pia.. acting like she owns d wm??.. y's he still in jaidas mode drinkin away his sorrows 😕 .. y's he feeling guilty.. for everythin that happened.. well it happened.. as he didn't use his brains 😡 y can't he tell pia where her place is.. and kick her out of WM.. she's still lurking around.. enjoyin life on his money so technically he's our raging bull.. but not really him yet.. how i wish they'd bring him bac - d old him 😕 😕

as fo blaming God - i think its a indian tele show thing - for some reason - when they're happy - they thank God.. when somethin goes wrong.. they blame God.. why.. beats me

as fo pia and wat she did to bani - i have no words for that

sorry for rambling on.. but i completely agree.. they've destroyed jai walia.. its weird d sins he got blamed for - he didn't commit 😕 - PR and ONS..

d sins he committed - he commmited cuz he was shown to be completely brainsless - snatching bani's kids away from her.. and basically having her separate from him in such a cruel way.. 😭 😭 😭 one could possibly imagine and d fact that pia still lurks arouns wm when d whole world knows she doesn't belong there 😡

they have destroyed Jai Walia and still have not 're-deemed' him.. ok he's raging bull.. but do some thing that needs to be done.. get pia out of that house.. at least show him to have some brains in d future when 'durga' makes her entry.. and both JB go out to destroy.. not just bani.. 😕 cuz technically they both deserve this revenge..that's not much to ask

as fo jai walia's character destroyed for entertainment .. um if he stays like this.. fans might leave.. cuz he's not d same anymore.. so y stick around seeing a man who was once EVERYTHING.. now cry and just get drunk.. that's boring.. nothin new.. 😕

i wrote a lifetime of things to read.. oops😭

Edited by nyzbabigyal - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Bavie,

What were the options b4 JW? The evidence against her was full proof and no lawyer was willing to fight her case. If he had not co-operated with Pia he would have seen his wife sent to jail for 21 years. Whose interest would that have served? The end result would have been either that Bani would have been separated from her kids or the kids would have been born in jail/MA.

As far as helping Bani is concerned, the point is that the guy needed time. By delaying his marriage by 6 months, he would have got the time to help Bani out, maybe collect evidence about the real murderer or help Bani escape. But he never got the time to do so, AD came b4 him and rescued her for his own selfish reasons.

Rgds,

Pri
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Navs
They have butchered him. That scene of him snatching her newborn babies
away from her is so heartwrenching, it is brutal. Especially when u look at
her eyes, so much love there. He takes them away--he could have slipped
her a note or something--thats what one does when ones loved one is in
trouble, is trapped on tries to help...its human nature. With the resources
that were available to this person he could have, should have done more.
Why did the creatives have to do this--I don't know and for what?
Its fine if he is angry at Maasi or his employees but like u said what about
throwing the repto out? Why doesn't he devise a strategy to get back at her
for what she has done to him and Bani--she is Bani's murderer and he has
her in his mansion --she has fame, name and izzat??? A Rpist and a
Murderer has all that....
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Posted: 18 years ago
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--what were the options b4 JW? The evidence against her was full proof
and no lawyer was willing to fight her case. If he had not co-operated
with Pia he would have seen his wife sent to jail for 21 years. Whose
interest would that have served? The end result would have been either
that Bani would have been separated from her kids or the kids would have
been born in jail/MA.--

Pri
its about that baby snatching scene--he could have done a little bit more
for her, all she wanted was an explanation and she would have happily
spent her time in the MA--all she wanted was a sign or something from
him as to what was going on. A little sign, that's all. He had promised
her that noone would come between them during their impromp to
marriage b4 leaving for london.
Pri, in pschoanalysis, there is a theory regarding guilt--in short guilt is
not about the action taken but its about the lack of action taken...its
about the could have, should have--he was her husband. He knows he
could have, should have done more--that's the guilt he is living with....

But Pri, why did the
creatives choose this path for him? It make s for great drama--a hero's
fall from grace, it makes for great pathos--but this kind of guilt?? What
are they thinking???
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and more thing.. was just dicussing wit Krish di and piku.. today's epi.. or rather yesterday's epi.. when that little poor kid came to his car.. jai told d driver to start d car.. is that Jai Walia????? that's not Jai Walia.. jai walia was raging and had a tough strong heart but he cared he wasn't heartless... this one's just raging and that's it i felt so bad for that kid 😭 😭
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: nyzbabigyal

and more thing.. was just dicussing
wit Krish di and piku.. today's epi.. or rather yesterday's epi.. when that little
poor kid came to his car.. jai told d driver to start d car.. is that Jai Walia?????
that's not Jai Walia.. jai walia was raging and had a tough strong heart but he
cared he wasn't heartless... this one's just raging and that's it i felt
so bad for that kid 😭 😭



So far this one is raging but repto is still at WM--this one is living with a
guilt that he will never be able to forgive himself for bc he knows he could
have done more. Thats why one is guilt, its not the action--its about why I
didnt do that--its about the inability to do more when one could have done
something.
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Posted: 18 years ago
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let's just hope d 'kreatives' do some JUSTICE to jai walia and he gets in action soon too.. i luv d raging side.. but its completely useless witout d action side

i mean even bani's ready for revenge.. burning a pic everyday.. damn it jai walia.. its time to kick 3 cartoons out.. and use some brains 😡 😡 😡

im really hoping as bani makes her entry - he's shown wit brains and less drinks in his hand

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