Saas-bahu saga through a western eye

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Posted: 11 years ago
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While many of us wonder what draws us seemingly sane, educated, urban women to shows with regressive ideas, many in the western world have been trying to understand the social dynamics of Indian society through these shows. I read a very interesting article in The Economist a couple of months ago that delved into the myriad of societal issues surrounding girls and women in India vis-a-vis marriage, in particular. The article tried to understand how the desi shows portrayal of bahus is not far from reality and writers/producers of these shows justified their reasons for sticking to these regressive ideas for story plots. Some parts of it are funny, so it makes for easy reading.
I had a link for the article in another thread and a fellow member, Exprimere requested I make a seperate thread for the article since (s)he thought that everyone should read it. Here it is, Exprimere...

http://www.economist.com/news/christmas-specials/21591745-curse-mummyji

I think it is a relevant & good topic for debate, so please feel free to add your views on the article. Please forgive my absence from the thread since I won't be online for most of the day.😊

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Will surely have a read when time permits
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Thanks for posting it. I remember the article - It's a very well-researched piece with trademark Economist analysis. My father pointed it out to me, hoping to wean me away from these regressive serials. 😃
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While the article itself is full of stereotypes, I cannot but agree that it is bloody bang on

And this part, really really made me guffaw.

Truth they say is stranger than fiction. Indeed.

Relations are good in their joint family, not like the "exaggerations" on TV, the older woman says. "We love to watch them, but know they are not like reality," she explains. "Am I like a wicked TV mother-in-law?" she asks her plump, pretty daughter-in-law. The younger woman smiles, lowers her eyes, and says "No."
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Originally posted by: meera30

While the article itself is full of stereotypes, I cannot but agree that it is bloody bang on


And this part, really really made me guffaw.

Truth they say is stranger than fiction. Indeed.

Relations are good in their joint family, not like the "exaggerations" on TV, the older woman says. "We love to watch them, but know they are not like reality," she explains. "Am I like a wicked TV mother-in-law?" she asks her plump, pretty daughter-in-law. The younger woman smiles, lowers her eyes, and says "No."


Indeed a lot of stereotypes, but most of the quotes have come from "real" people. The part that had me in splits was...

"A boy is mollycoddled, pampered beyond belief, made to think the sun shines out of his backside. He gets a terrible sense of entitlement." In popular culture, she says, the only woman a man looks up to is "his mother, the woman who turned him into the asshole that he is". 😆
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Originally posted by: tvbug2011

Thanks for posting it. I remember the article - It's a very well-researched piece with trademark Economist analysis. My father pointed it out to me, hoping to wean me away from these regressive serials. 😃


No weaning away us desis from these shows, is there? 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Thanks so much!
And with that, I hope people will be better informed about this show, and many others. I wanted this article to be shared, not because I wanted to spoil viewership, but I thought that those criticising the need for such saas-bahu dramas see why they persist and thrive on Indian TV.

It may work, it may not. A show could just click, or be brushed off as cliched/regressive. But not incorporating this could be a huge risk factor for the makers.

At the end of the day, everyone should think over this: evil saas aren't really real. Not dramatically anyway. But then hair-flying, wind blowing, musical, sacrificing romances, where the Hero inflicts heaven knows what injustice on the Heroine, should not be real, either, Watch for your entertainment, do not try to fit/expect that in your real life.

P.S this was posted in response to Napster's thread.
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Originally posted by: Exprimere

Thanks so much!

And with that, I hope people will be better informed about this show, and many others. I wanted this article to be shared, not because I wanted to spoil viewership, but I thought that those criticising the need for such saas-bahu dramas see why they persist and thrive on Indian TV.


@BOLD: Amen to that!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Long time Long time 🤗
putting a res for now
will read and get back
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Originally posted by: Exprimere

Thanks so much!

And with that, I hope people will be better informed about this show, and many others. I wanted this article to be shared, not because I wanted to spoil viewership, but I thought that those criticising the need for such saas-bahu dramas see why they persist and thrive on Indian TV.

It may work, it may not. A show could just click, or be brushed off as cliched/regressive. But not incorporating this could be a huge risk factor for the makers.

At the end of the day, everyone should think over this: evil saas aren't really real. Not dramatically anyway. But then hair-flying, wind blowing, musical, sacrificing romances, where the Hero inflicts heaven knows what injustice on the Heroine, should not be real, either, Watch for your entertainment, do not try to fit/expect that in your real life.

P.S this was posted in response to Napster's thread.


Honestly romance exists as much as evil saas'es do -they just aren't as dramatic as TV would like us to believe - but then for entertainment, maybe some level of dramatisation is essential.

The thing is that the women who are in situations that revolve around domesticity with little avenue for other pursuits - these serials do offer entertainment that they can relate to.

But the truth is also that if entertainment is the way to bring a slow change in the society - and a conversation with anyone for an hour will prove just how much of an influence TV can have - then the expectation is that somewhere the soaps we so enjoy for their drama, can incorporate them in their scripts and initiate that process...And honestly shows like Balika Vadhu, even Diya and Baati - in all their mindless plot twists..try somewhere to show something different...

The only thing that does worry me - which is what napstermonster's thread talks about is that almost every show that airs on TV today has the couple marrying for all reasons other than the fact that they want to...That to me is scary...Because there are people who do believe that fiction and fact aren't completely separate...I would hate for anyone to go through anything in life and be okay with it, because some entertainment vehicle showed that it happens and that in the end everything will fall into place..

But you are right...we would all do better to remember that fact and fiction borrow from each other but the lines of right and wrong are to be decided by us..

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