Why is Olympia Treated Like a Princess ??.. - Page 3

Originally posted by: EtherealRati

lol i dont want puru to teach chankya a lesson...but he should explain his point of view through his words and olympia should be free to go. Abhi umeedein toh hain puru se is par...dekhte hain aage hota kya hain monday ko.

Originally posted by: Geniusreader

@etherealrati

Totally agree on ur topic. Ansooya is kind hearted so wo dusri raani pe zurm nahi karegi. Par yaha to olympia ko aise sar pe chadha ke rakhi hai ki jaise wo uski beti ki saas ho...! Bharat me beti ke sasural walo ke sabhi nakhre jhele jaate hai na.. 😛

Originally posted by: inlieu

Some of the comments on this thread are hilarious!

A few points:

1. Olympias herself tells Anusuya not to waste her time in hospitality and to prepare for the war. She is not expecting to be treated as a princess and finds all of this to be a farce. Also, Olympias herself has never attacked anyone in PR or dealt any personal blows. Their fight is with her son, not her. And yes, she has always been powerful, headstrong, and arrogant, so just as Anusuya can't change her nature, neither can Olympias.
   
   
2. Olympias saying that her son Alexander will teach them a lesson should be no surprise. What else would a son do? Porus would have done the same, and how many times did Anusuya tell Shivdutt that her son would come?
   
   
3. Anusuya, because of her nature, will continue to do what she feels is right even if Olympias doesn't like it or appreciate it. As for the lectures, we've had enough from both queens. It's getting repetitive. If I were kidnapped and then being given the royal treatment (literally) I would also wonder at the hypocrisy of my captors. Bringing Olympias "Macedonian" food in the wake of the kidnapping, especially during her religious rituals, is laughable indeed. If they had treated her poorly, she wouldn't be surprised, because that is what would normally happen, but they are doing the very opposite with the mother of their arch enemy. The Pauravengers were not averse to throwing Shivdutt or Kanishk into in a dark prison, considering their past actions, so why the so-called "kindness" towards Olympias? It's not about generosity towards her - Chanakya needs her for something so he is keeping her happy in order to execute his plan. Otherwise, she would have been killed in the jungle itself.
   
   
4. Anusuya couldn't do anything against Darius even if she wanted to because she was on her own. She did not have the support of her family. Back then she lectured, even now she is lecturing. This, again, is what Olympias is saying to her, that the Pauravengers are not ruthless enough in times of war, and all this talk about hospitality seems very much misplaced. Also, Anusuya herself does not need to accompany the servants bringing the food or indulge in small talk, but she does. Aside from Sid T using this as a means of extolling Bharati sanskaar, there's got to be some aspect of Chanakya's strategy involved here that we're unaware of, but Anusuya is.
   
   
5. Sid T is leaving no stone unturned to degrade Macedonians as well now. I am very disappointed by this. They can show Olympias or Alexander's personal philosophies, but to generalize Macedonian values is unacceptable. Note how this is the first time we've seen wine served in PR and it was smoothly done to appear as hospitality, but the association of this kind of food/drink with bad/Macedonian culture was very clear and in poor taste. Sid T needs to be careful because in the fight against soch, this is going too far. He wants to show the PR family to be gracious hosts, but it's actually achieving the opposite result. Same thing with the insults against Zeus - that was not acceptable.
   
   
6. The CVs are trying to taint Alexander further by showing his mother spewing nasty words about Bharati culture and food, so viewers may infer that he has the same disdain for Bharatis. Which is so far from the truth, it's not funny. He is very curious about the culture and has asked questions in Taxila. He was also very interested in the Taj Poshi ceremony and was paying close attention to what Chanakya was explaining, noting the difference between what he knew of Macedonian customs vs PR ones.
   
   
7. Alexander treated the Farsi royal ladies with respect from the moment he met them, including killing the soldier he thought was trying to murder them. He very explicitly offered them his protection. Despite his enmity with Darius, he never used the ladies against him, which would have been very easy if he had wanted to (not that Darius cared). It was Barsine who chose not to respect Alexander's generous offer, and it was she who had sent a message to Porus askign for help and went against Alexander by stealing his sword to help Porus escape. Later on, she was fleeing the arena without a care for her people, which is not what a princess should have done. It was only Alexander's words that stopped her.
   
   
8. Porus initially set fire to the Farsi bazaar to alert Barsine but fire is dangerous and always causes damage. What about that? Then to escape the arena he (and his gang) set up explosions in the arena and to destroy the Macedonian army's weapons. Alexander even asked Hephaestion to estimate the huge damage and repair everything, which he said would take 2 weeks. For sure, lots of food and other supplies were destroyed, as well as artillery, boats, etc. We didn't explicitly see deaths of people because the CVs chose to skip it, but it is impossible that there were no people harmed with the scale of explosions and fire everywhere that we saw when Alexander was chasing the Pauravengers through the streets of Faras. Him ordering the other kings to set the food supplies on fire was retaliation for this. He explicitly targeted the rations and did not set off explosions. He knew that Porus would be able to provide for his own people by some other means and that knowing the amount of wealth Bharat had, his people would not starve. It was a lesson for Porus, and not intended to kill innocent Pauravians, that is very obvious.
   
   
9. If we talk about who started what, then Barsine started it by helping to humiliate Alexander, and he is only telling her to lure Chanakya out in order to compensate for that. Chanakya started his own games of treachery with Taxila and Alexander. Both people involved, Barsine and Chanakya, betrayed Alexander so it seems only fair that he would involve them both in his bid to avenge his insult. Alexander was never going to kill Barsine's family, just like he was never going to kill that kid in Faras. You could tell from the expression on Hephaestion's face that Alexander and he had planned that empty threat in order to scare Barsine.
   
   
10. Alexander has not kept the royal ladies in some dungeon or in captivity. Barsine seemed to be doing just fine, and even though it was partly to teach Roxanne a lesson, he did celebrate her birthday and (almost) gifted her pearls. He was very gracious towards her, even in public, which he need not be.
    
    
11. Alexander went to PR to see the King Kanishk and talk about the terms of the peace treaty that Kanishk had apparently offered. If he wanted to kill Kanishk, he would have gone with a much larger army and attacked right from the beginning, instead of waiting and watching the entire ceremony. He had no treachery in mind, and he clearly said in the episode before that he was going to PR to allay his mother's fears and to pay respect to the sender of the peace treaty offer.
    
    
12. Kaniskh himself agreed that he deserved to die in this way, after what he had mistreated his own family and had allied with Alexander to kill his brother. Why are we suddenly feeling sorry for him? Anusuya was humiliated, Bamni was badly injured in the swordfight, and Kadika herself was mistreated all under Kanishk's watch. The running theme in this show is that a ruler is responsible for everything that happens in his or her kingdom, the good and the bad. By that token, even if it was Shivdutt's planning, Kanishk was equally responsible. I will never forget Bamni's lament in court before being sentenced, showing his pain and dejection at how Kanishk had turned out. It brought out Kanishk's tears, but still he decided to be hard-hearted and cruel to the rest of his family. Even after all that, Porus didn't sentence him to death the way Kanishk had sentenced Bamni and Anusuya. Still, Kanishk wanted to kill Porus and allied with Sumer and Alexander for that. He was always power hungry, it was not just about a personal vendetta.
    
    
13. Alexander did sense that he hadn't heard from his mother. He doesn't need a ransom note to feel that something is off. That's how in tune mother-son are.
    
    
14. I don't know what Porus will tell Chanakya, but I won't be surprised if he decides to send Olympias to Dasyulok in order to clear their doubts about Sumer or about the Pauravengers killing their own (Kanishk) in order to save Anusuya. What would be interesting to watch is if Alexander ends up going to Dasyulok to ally with them and then discovers his mother "vacationing" there.
    
    
15. You can see how Olympias connects the dot very quickly and realizes that Porus is unware of the real reason that Chanakya has brought her here. I bet she knows it already, but we viewers are being kept in suspense.
    
    
16. Alexander kidnapping Anusuya or Laachi is not a matter of power or strength. He would just never do that (though I don't trust the CVs). It goes against his code of honor and is not going to help his strategy anyway. How was Anusuya treated in captivity by Shivdutt? Would Alexander ever do that? No way!
    
    
17. As for Porus and Alexander becoming friends, it might just start with this Olympias incident. If Porus lets her go, then it might help, but all that will depend on how the CVs play this out. They themselves seem to be confused.
    
    
18. There is still not enough unity amongst the Bharatis, and this will be proved again when Porus and Chanakya have a clash of soch again about the latter's underhanded tactics. Olympias mentioned that to Anusuya in their first exchange, and she has noticed that now during the argument between the Dasyus and Pauravengers.