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@vidyia

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Posted: 12 years ago

#11

Originally posted by: Vinnie79
Hey Vidya,
I have a question for you. I agree with your post that he is married and should not be chasing her. But given the facts we were shown, that his relationship started when he thought his wife to be dead. And he is convinced that he is /was totally in love with Sugni...
Is it right in the way Sugni is treating him...being in front of him and flaunting her relationship. Would it not be more compassionate , for all the love she claimed to have for him...to be away from him with her husband??? I have no problems with Sugni being married to some one else , what I have a problem with is her insistence on staying there, it is like she is inviting trouble because
1. she is not giving him a chance to forget her and move on
2. her presance will not help his marriage.
Please share your thoughts on this!

You are absolutely right. I am not happy with Sugni's character. She started off as a strong and intelligent person but for the past few months she seems oblivious to the feelings of both the men in her lives. It seems that she is drawn like magnet to Vikram eventhough it is not right and she off all people should know this and also she is insensitive to Adi's feelings. She is now being portrayed as a non-sensical person. You are absolutely right she IS INVITING TROUBLE, she and Adi should have gone far away from the mansion but Adi should still keep in touch with his mother.

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vidyia

@vidyia

Beginner

Posted: 12 years ago

#12

Originally posted by: croziaxx
he did try, but she said i will die if rewa is alive.. so that was his weakness we accept this he was wrong.. but there was no need to marry to her lover's nephew its utter disgusting...🤢
and she snatched amrita's love but never regret..
and as i said he made only one mistake, but others making blunder but never punished... all rules only for vikram..

It is always better to tell the truth eventhough it is VERY HARD SOMETIMES - Vic is not weak he is a strong person (they have showed this time and time again). And yes the other are making mistakes time and time again which is unpalatable. I don't agree with some of things in the show, but the point I was trying to make is that Vic was married and he should have told Sugni as soon as he found her to be alive. But then it is an Indian Soap, there must be alot of drama. Thanks for responding and God Bless!

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Ron

@ronshaan

Stunner

+ 2

Posted: 12 years ago

#13

Originally posted by: vidyia
Joyel thank you for your response. My answer to your question is simple, he is married and was married at the time he met Sugni. If someone is divorced then there is no rule saying he cannot love someone else and marry. So my answer is: of course he can

when he met sugni he was widow not married

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Laila Banu

@Laila2009

Rocker

+ 3

Posted: 12 years ago

#14

Originally posted by: vidyia
I know that you are a huge fan of Vickram and you are entitled to be; but it is possible that you are because of his gentle and kind ways from the beginning of the show. In your mind he was the perfect person for Sugni. I was also a fan of his when the show first started, that is until I knew he was married. The show at present shows him as a negative character but for me it was his marital status that swayed me. A MARRIED man has no scruples when he looks at another woman and if he can while being married it is completely wrong. I am a marriage counselor for 35 years and I am married for 42 years and I see most marriages broken because of being unfaithfull. I am not bashing Vickram but he should realize he is married and try to work his marriage out. Reva is only negative because he is showing her that he loves (or rather lust) over Sugni. I am sure that no married woman would like to see her husband go after another woman. This is just my opinion on the situation of people hung up on the idea of Vickram being the one who is hurt. So Vickram fans continue to love him but remember what you saw in him the first time was right UNTIL we found out he was married and the truth began to unfold. If you feel I am wrong blame it on my experience of counselling for so many years and see so many marriages brought back alive when two people sit and work things out together, giving each other space and time, learning to give and forgive and bring back the trust in their lives.

For someone who is a marriage counselor it stuns me that you hold just a judgmental attitude here. A married man has no scruples when he looks at another woman? Really? That's the reason why people cheat? Seriously, I don't know who you've counseled to draw such a conclusion. Second, as a marriage counselor I am even further amazed at your conclusion that Reva is only negative because she doesn't want to have her husband run after Sugni...so negative that she pays her brother to kill him and then tries to kill him herself...and you still want these two to 'work it out?" Do you also force your clients to work on 'dead relationships?" And exactly how do you propose they "work things out?" These two do NOT even like each other.

You also surprise me with your statements because TVS fell for Sugni because his wife was dead. He realized that she this too late and his bad decision was to continue through with the marriage instead of telling Sugni the truth.

Also, as a marriage counselor HOW in the world would you not condone the actions of Sugni towards Amrita? OR are you have the mindset that since she was not married it was fine? Also, as a counselor how can you condone Sugni's actions that have caused a horrific rift in a family where a woman marries the nephew of a man whom she romances? And this is what brings a family together.

From one licensed therapist to another. 😆

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Laila Banu

@Laila2009

Rocker

+ 3

Posted: 12 years ago

#15

Originally posted by: croziaxx
i think u not watching this show since beginning, when vikram met to sugni he thought his wife has died in an accident last year,not only he even his whole family have accepted that his wife is dead, even his sister was trying to convince him for marriage to a high-fiy girl.. ..
we all always saying that he was wrong when he hide the truth that his dead wife came back, but ..he wanted to divorce rewa but great adi and sug din't let him ...
we mad because we r not able to accept a relationship btw a nephew and his mama's GF, even nephew was very much engaged, with his own wish.. and that girl was very nice always support to sugni.. and nephew knew 'how much his mama love to sugni,..
and vikram never try to harm her or use her, and rewa want only status, not his love, she attempted to kill him twice, so if he wanted to give divorce this kind of lady, me not think this is crime..
infront of adi,sug ,gulbiya ..vikram is saint.. these trio always insulted him, humiliating him in the public, but he never.. he is now became devil but before he was an angel..
in this drama if any body suffering the most ,that is vikram.. his life's 2 most important people deceived him, 1st his love of life 'whom he loved more then life and 2nd is his nephew whom he raised like son.. every body got what they want but he got nothing... except pain..

I agree. the writer has not watched this show form the beginning and is easily swayed by whatever the writers are giving her.

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Laila Banu

@Laila2009

Rocker

+ 3

Posted: 12 years ago

#16

Originally posted by: croziaxx
i think u not watching this show since beginning, when vikram met to sugni he thought his wife has died in an accident last year,not only he even his whole family have accepted that his wife is dead, even his sister was trying to convince him for marriage to a high-fiy girl.. ..
we all always saying that he was wrong when he hide the truth that his dead wife came back, but ..he wanted to divorce rewa but great adi and sug din't let him ...
we mad because we r not able to accept a relationship btw a nephew and his mama's GF, even nephew was very much engaged, with his own wish.. and that girl was very nice always support to sugni.. and nephew knew 'how much his mama love to sugni,..
and vikram never try to harm her or use her, and rewa want only status, not his love, she attempted to kill him twice, so if he wanted to give divorce this kind of lady, me not think this is crime..
infront of adi,sug ,gulbiya ..vikram is saint.. these trio always insulted him, humiliating him in the public, but he never.. he is now became devil but before he was an angel..
in this drama if any body suffering the most ,that is vikram.. his life's 2 most important people deceived him, 1st his love of life 'whom he loved more then life and 2nd is his nephew whom he raised like son.. every body got what they want but he got nothing... except pain..

And because we are not able it is not a sign of weakness but a moral behavior that is not acceptable in most societies. A man has boundaries...the woman your uncle romances or the man your friends is interested in ARE off limits.

And U are right...anyone who watches this show from the start and has an objective mind can see these things. It is not about being a TVS fan but knowing how to differentiate between what is right and wrong.

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Laila Banu

@Laila2009

Rocker

+ 3

Posted: 12 years ago

#17

Originally posted by: vidyia

It is always better to tell the truth eventhough it is VERY HARD SOMETIMES - Vic is not weak he is a strong person (they have showed this time and time again). And yes the other are making mistakes time and time again which is unpalatable. I don't agree with some of things in the show, but the point I was trying to make is that Vic was married and he should have told Sugni as soon as he found her to be alive. But then it is an Indian Soap, there must be alot of drama. Thanks for responding and God Bless!

He was not married. He was a widow. Did you actually watch this show from be the beginning as you so claimed? Seems TVS is bad for not telling the truth, but you are forgetting that when the need suited Sugni. Aditya and her mother, they kept the secret from Maa Thakur and Amrita. How does that make them any better?

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Sandy

@Sandy66

Voyager

Posted: 12 years ago

#18

Hi Vidyia, Congrats on being a marriage counselor for many years, it's an emotionally exhausting job. Kudos to you. When Vickram known and fell in love with Sugni, he was a widower,later on his presumably dead wife Rewa came back alive. He made several attempt to revealed the truth to Sugni, but he failed at it, afraid that he will loose Sugni, that was a huge mistake on his part. Vickram was deeply in love with Sugni, when Rewa return from the dead,so we do expected him to just switched his feelings, like the "snap of a finger. People's heart don't have an on or off switch It would be a bit harsh if we called Vickram an unscrupulous human being, cause he never cross the limit with Sugni nor Rewa. He made it crystal clear to Rewa that their marriage was us over between them. Don't think Vickram lust over Sugni, he truly, honestly and sincerely love her, cause if he was lusting over her, he had opportunities, where he could have fulfilled his lust. Few days back Vickram told Adi and Sugni, he never lust or wanted her body, but only her heart Agreed with you that many broken marriage can be fixed and brought back alive, but in Vickram and Rewa case, it's impossible and a tough task. Both party have to be willing to work on it. Have you ever had clients like Rewa qualities, pretending insanity attempted murder and her selfish desire for status, wealth and power.Don't know if you watch PSH from the beginning to present, but in many episodes Vickram has expressed his feelings to Adi about his love and desire, Adi saw evidences of Vickram's love for Sugni', so Adi is not oblivious to what's was going with Vickram. Like your response on Vinnie post about "Sugni is drawn to Vickram like a magnet. That's a true statement, cause Sugni may not be over Vickram's as she claim/pretend, that's why she want to be close to him. The more we protest or in denial about something, it goes to show how deeply our heart is involved in the matter.

Edited by Sandy66 - 12 years ago

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Ron

@ronshaan

Stunner

+ 2

Posted: 12 years ago

#19

well said sandy 👍🏼
people say vikram is bad just because they know adi was meant to be be the hero they dont care what they see they care what the cv said b4 ..they said adi is hero so he is hero.. how he became a hero... who carez

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Julie

@JulieD

Voyager

Posted: 12 years ago

#20

I won't repeat what Laila, Mansi, Vinnie and Sandy said. They have all explained it all so well.

What I would like to add is that if Sugni had married any other guy that was not related to Vikram, then she would have gotten alot of supporters.

We support TVS because his only crime was not telling the truth to Sugni when he found out. But he made a mistake, he is only human and has tried to rectify that mistake.

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