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Posted: 12 years ago

#71

Originally posted by: hillydee
I totally agree with you Laila. It is so strange that in such a powerful country like the USA. the actors and actresses are worshipped, but there is always a balance created for consumers who are against certain things to speak out.

As a matter of fact, viewers are so horrible to these actors, unlike in India,yet those actors are more gracious to their fans, and understand their feelings. Never would they tell you to change the channel as you do not need to watch the show, as they full well know that the viewers determine the sustainability of any show.

However, it seems in India it is the Actors and Writers who dictate the survival of entertainment, and the consumers keep mum and take anything that is dished out to them, no fear that this blind glorification is an unhealthy way to live.

Shows such as PR, the viewers are being treated like mere puppets, to watch whatever nonsense the cvs dish out, everyday is a leap with unrealistic story lines. While viewers look on eager for the hope that they will be honoured with the story line of their desire while the cvs take comfort in the fact that the actors will save the nonsensical story lines.

In PSH, the story gets dumber and dumber everyday, immoral and more immoral every day, and instead of the looking into the positive aspects of a viewers disgust, we are being told to shut up and take it or leave it, because allegiance is owed to the Industry, not the viewers, nor any other positive source.

The industry is right and the consumer is wrong. 👏 What an enlightening response received today.

I will definitely change my channel to an American Station.

Well said Hilary 😊

I don't know if Varun Badola really posted the message or not. If actors are here then why are they hiding? 😆

Whether or not they are playing hide & seek, I don't think actors have the right to point fingers at people they do not even know. Many of us are from decent family backgrounds and do have a lot of work on our hands. Just because no on is watching it doesn't mean we can't read posts or updates - I for one, I am neither watching or reading updates. I come here to visit friends online & have a light discussion.

This doesn't mean that I am not doing anything else all day. Some of us have umpteen jobs and we are fast typists. For some members it does take a while before getting over a show so no wonder why they still post here even though they do not watch the serial. They are saddened & still angry to see actors like Varun Badola throw their talent away.

What is pitiful is that the CVs take members posts without giving any credit and use them for their own immoral gains. While they earn this money from musing with our ideas will they ever say thank you? Not once have they had the heart to feel compassion for those of us who cared. We then see attacks by such talented actors, on members' concentrated efforts, throwing their ideas & story-lines away, as mere whims and fantasy! They lose money, yet they blame us, the public - incredible! If the script writers were so fantastic then why this mess? Later they ask us who is going to pay their bills as if it is our fault! Well members did warn when things were not right, but they took no notice. Friends have given so many ideas and posted their frustrations, but again they took no notice. So what else to expect, except a damaging career resulting in bad reputation & failure?

None of this goes on in UK. With so many errors & mistakes this show would fail recognition before it is even scheduled!

It is obvious whenever there are such sensitive issues arising in a program, it doesn't linger on forever weeks after weeks after years...In UK they do not prolong disturbing dramas but shorten them with the least emotional impact on people's lives and with warnings on its content.

If they care about their reputation then they should have thought about it before embarking on disaster prone projects. Instead of attacking viewers for things going wrong in their shows, (after encouraging us to post here our views), they should use constructive criticism to help repair their own losses. So many members gave lovely ideas & stories but it all this seems to no avail because of their ostentatiousness and arrogance.

I say again even though frustrated, that I don't think anyone has the right to attack or point fingers at people expressing their views, at public forums, about how they choose to spend their time. I think many members are extremely busy with their lives and have already stated why they visit here, and what work they do but they don't need to defend themselves to anyone, before posting on a public forum. Just because no on is watching it, this doesn't mean they are not reading posts or updates. I am neither reading updates nor watching the show, but I do read some posts and respond, if and whenever I feel I need to.

Best Wishes ❤️

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Istila

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Posted: 12 years ago

#72

Originally posted by: varunbadola1974
... who ever ruined our story is a different issue, but someone who believed in his concept and put in crores to put together the show, according to you does not even have the right to earn his money back. ... in this world of competition it takes ages for good work to come your way and at times just basic work takes a life time to come to you... and send our monthly bills to who? YOU?

Originally posted by: Laila2009
One of the comments MR. VB said in his post is the producer is trying to recoup his loss. Well, here's one he can do it, give us a show that actually works. . ...

Originally posted by: hillydee

...It is always the smaller man who would have to make the change, because the big man is filled with the arrogance and presumed invincibility of being 'Big."

To Varun Badola.

I have a proposal.

Whether or not PSH is a success, although I am not well off, I am ready to help you out a little. At least I owe this to you, after watching few of your ACPM & PSH episodes online, if that is you are willing to accept and it eases off any burdens.

Everyone can add their input. I'm sure that all your friends are ready to help you financially, if you are in trouble. If a thousand fans pay you even one pound each that would already amount to 1000 pounds, though I do not know what that would be in Indian currency, in crores or rupees.

You will have to find a way how people can contact you & how they can see your credentials & identity securely, prior to arranging any payments.

Wish you & your family all the best.

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Ron

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Posted: 12 years ago

#73

A request to admin / mod

Please stop this !!!

the way you all are commenting I find it as Insult to us the fans and the actor.

I don't want to hurt any one but I guess there is a limit !

thanks

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Laila Banu

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Posted: 12 years ago

#74

Originally posted by: ronshaan
A request to admin / mod

Please stop this !!!

the way you all are commenting I find it as Insult to us the fans and the actor.

I don't want to hurt any one but I guess there is a limit !

thanks

Ronshaan - stop what? There is just a discussion going on here - I don't see any of the responses here doing any insulting of the fans or an actor. Ronshaan, have you taken the time out to even read or understand the point made here?

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Hillylove

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Posted: 12 years ago

#75

In all fairness, isn't it wrong to open a public forum for viewers to express themselves, and then turn around and tell them what to say? As long as the IF rules are not being broken, what is so wrong in saying how you feel about the story lines, and how it relates to the actors?

I don't believe that some people who oppose the views really understand what is going on here. Not because you don't have a problem with the actors sitting down and not protesting about the roles they are playing, or the cvs writing what they feel like without balance, does not mean others should keep quiet and not express how they feel. What works for you, cannot and will not work for others, as we are all humans with different frame of references.

I have noticed since 2007 on this forum, that there is constant practice of suppression of controversial views. Why is that? Maybe I am not understanding? I am amazed at how this forum is built on the majority rules and the outright attempts to silence unfavourable views.

One would think that we are surrounded by the actors and the cvs themselves, at attempt to control the masses.

Or is it that the majority is so starved for these shows that they will accept anything given to them, because they feel they do not deserve better for their money? So, the actors and cvs must make a lot of money showing us crap, while our money is flushed down the toilet.

I will agree, that there should be a respectful approach to the actors and actresses because they are also humans with freedom of choice, but suggesting that they should stand up to the cvs and not accept this constant defiling of not only a culture but human morality in general cannot be a bad thing.

When in itself the suggestion is for their own personal development and also for the benefit of the viewers.

Believing that if you refuse certain jobs or take a strong stance while currently under the job contract, will leave you hungry and unfulfilled, is the same thing as believing there is no God watching over and protecting you.

So, my conclusion is that this is the belief of a lot of these actors and actresses based on Mr. Badola's post, and therefore I will no longer criticise him, as he obviously does not view life on the same level as me.

That is why it is not good to assume what someone's personal value system is, and I had alluded to that fact in a previous post.

With that said, I will be mindful in the future to not question anything on IF, as it will be deemed as wrong towards the actors and their precious jobs. However, I really hope that when Indian Serials eventually become po*nography and the original culture becomes non existent you will remember how you did nothing to stop the madness, you kept quiet saying it is just a show and your precious actors are never wrong and they are just doing their jobs.

You will no longer be saying "Namaste India," but "Al Vida India"

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varunbadola1974

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Posted: 12 years ago

#76

ISTILA keep a tab on your tongue. FIRST READ THE POST TO WHICH I REACTED WHICH SAYS THAT GULKI SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF DOING THIS SHOW, I HAVE LET YOU ALL DOWN AND SO HAS NARAYANI. and if the actor posts a response then you question his credibility? and yes, if i am genuine or not. i read the financial help bit that you posted. as you have directed the post at me then i can easily ask you to shut up. there is a lot that one can say but reading your posts till date assures me that with you a conversation is a complete waste of time. no wonder the general belief in the actors community is that such forums are a complete waste of time as a few others have joined in to interact with the viewers and people like you have turned them off. what example you set for others, i can see, has never been your concern but i hope no one around you takes you too seriously, otherwise the world would be full of pathetic human beings.

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enigma1

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Posted: 12 years ago

#77

Originally posted by: varunbadola1974
ISTILA keep a tab on your tongue. FIRST READ THE POST TO WHICH I REACTED WHICH SAYS THAT GULKI SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF DOING THIS SHOW, I HAVE LET YOU ALL DOWN AND SO HAS NARAYANI. and if the actor posts a response then you question his credibility? and yes, if i am genuine or not. i read the financial help bit that you posted. as you have directed the post at me then i can easily ask you to shut up. there is a lot that one can say but reading your posts till date assures me that with you a conversation is a complete waste of time. no wonder the general belief in the actors community is that such forums are a complete waste of time as a few others have joined in to interact with the viewers and people like you have turned them off. what example you set for others, i can see, has never been your concern but i hope no one around you takes you too seriously, otherwise the world would be full of pathetic human beings.

Hello , Mr. Badola, we love you as an actor no matter what 👏😃. A lot of us completely understand your anger and frustration. Some people on IF have very extreme and fundamentalist views and they want to impose them on others. All you can do is ignore them because at the end of the day, you cannot really change people. The comment addressed to you on the financial part was completely uncalled for. These members will not stop from making stupid comments and will continue to do so under the pretext of their right and freedom. The best thing to do is to ignore their comments for your own mental health.

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Laila Banu

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Posted: 12 years ago

#78

Originally posted by: merrydock
what ever the show portarays can be taken as a subjective or objective prespective. you dont have to like the characters and state your openion about the them. but is dont think that anyone gives you the right of question the morals of the Actors Gulki or Nayarani. and what sort of roles the choose to play.
have you raised these questions on other actors that play vamps, abusive and caniving mother in laws, and sister in laws. do you question the personal moral of these actors who play these roles.

so you must think is that Reva is an ideal wife and exemplery person, a woman who tries to kill he husband and blame it on another.

or Mar Thakur, who has no respect for any one who is not from the thakur family, it is ok that she treats others as if they and not worthy of being called human beings.

and vikram is an exemplary man. who if was going to marry sugni without informing his own mother that she is a bedni, so he tried to marry her before his mother got back from where ever she had gone, who lied, and told more lies to hide his one lie. all fair in love and war right.

another think when sugni asked Aditya if he would marry her and stand by her, he could have said no, she did hold the gun to his her. but Aditya had already fallen in love with sugni, that is way the could not come clean tha tell ma thakur that the wedding was off. aditya said he could not marry sugni only to realise that he did indeed want to marry her as he had already fallen in love with her.

so why blame sugni and gulabya.

you know you can cirtise the characters but it is uncalled for to abuse the Actors and their moral fiber.

that is what you should do to the MP, and MLA of the country.

You completely missed the point of the post. I have played vamps and horrible characters on stage - people with loose morals etc. BUT my characters never promoted these as "good behaviors" I would NEVER promote a character that would say it was OK and justified to sleep with the nephew of her lover (that's a plot of cheap dirty pictures) or steal the lover of your best friend. For goodness sake, this is supposed to be the lead of the show and yet she's doing the stuff that a vamp does.

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Laila Banu

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Posted: 12 years ago

#79

Originally posted by: varunbadola1974
ISTILA keep a tab on your tongue. FIRST READ THE POST TO WHICH I REACTED WHICH SAYS THAT GULKI SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF DOING THIS SHOW, I HAVE LET YOU ALL DOWN AND SO HAS NARAYANI. and if the actor posts a response then you question his credibility? and yes, if i am genuine or not. i read the financial help bit that you posted. as you have directed the post at me then i can easily ask you to shut up. there is a lot that one can say but reading your posts till date assures me that with you a conversation is a complete waste of time. no wonder the general belief in the actors community is that such forums are a complete waste of time as a few others have joined in to interact with the viewers and people like you have turned them off. what example you set for others, i can see, has never been your concern but i hope no one around you takes you too seriously, otherwise the world would be full of pathetic human beings.

It's a good job you don't know her address otherwise you'd probably send someone around to her house to cut that tongue out. I am not sure you are VB himself because if you are this is cracking me up! Seriously, as an actor to spend some much time on a forum get worked up here over what a few people say? WOW.

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ruhi86

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Posted: 12 years ago

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Originally posted by: varunbadola1974
ISTILA keep a tab on your tongue. FIRST READ THE POST TO WHICH I REACTED WHICH SAYS THAT GULKI SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF DOING THIS SHOW, I HAVE LET YOU ALL DOWN AND SO HAS NARAYANI. and if the actor posts a response then you question his credibility? and yes, if i am genuine or not. i read the financial help bit that you posted. as you have directed the post at me then i can easily ask you to shut up. there is a lot that one can say but reading your posts till date assures me that with you a conversation is a complete waste of time. no wonder the general belief in the actors community is that such forums are a complete waste of time as a few others have joined in to interact with the viewers and people like you have turned them off. what example you set for others, i can see, has never been your concern but i hope no one around you takes you too seriously, otherwise the world would be full of pathetic human beings.

Mr. Badola, I don't know its u or not, but in case its u...i agree with what you said, But i want to ask that as you think our conversation is waste of time, then why dont u show the same attitude in the show? it will be much better to act like this in show if you ignore Sugni as you are ready to ignore your fans and our wishes. So, why you are not playing the TVS we all loved..why why why? please stand up to our expectations and show us that you are our TVS..i personally know your sister who studied in JNU and she told me that you are a great person, and i always had many expectations from you as an actor. I wish you will read this and show the same attitude in the show and will stand for right..all d best...i m looking forward to your next show...i hope u will come with something of your level and potential...

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