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payal7

@payal7

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Posted: 12 years ago

#11

I agree with seemasr that once you are married the husband and wife must standby and support each other come hell or high water.

But in the Indian culture we do not just marry the man/woman we in effect marry into the family so the family is as important as the partner.

It is MPOV (I do not wish to offend anyone) that a huband or a wife when making a decision when there is a conflict between what the partner wants and what the family want must do what is right and fair. They will then have to explain to the partner or the family why in that perticular instance their stance was not right.

Adi now standing by Sugni now is right.

My point is he should have never become her husband because there was no reason for this wedding other than to save Sugni's pride/ego. Forsaking your family and tearing it apart is a high price to pay for such a stupid reason.

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devraniharish

@devraniharish

Voyager

Posted: 12 years ago

#12

Originally posted by: merrydock
i think you are wrong, in now way did aditya dishonor his family. before maa thakur found out that sugni was from the bedni family she was quite happy to have sugni as a bahu. and she was also the one to see Aditya's love for sugni in his eyes. now she is ruled by prejudice. do you think that if vikram had married sugni she would have gotten acceptance, but you would have praised him for standing by the woman he loves right. you 'er prejudice. your prejudice towards Aditya and sugni Relationship.

maa thakur would have hated shgni more if she had married vikram, becauese she would then have broken a marriage for her own benifit. but in your eyes that would be acceptabel because reva is a bitch, and vikram and sugni love each other.

i salute Aditya for what he did, sugni may not know that Aditya is in love with her. but he is and now she is his wife and he knows that with everyone in the family against her he is her only support and strength and he stood by his wife. and every man should do.

he may have gone against his family, but only because they are against sugni and his relationship with her. he has accepted the sancity of his marriage, that is the first step to understanding relationship and honoring them.

you honor and accept the relationship you are born with, becaues they are blood relations and you are not give any other choice. but all other relationships you chose, like your friends and your life partner and it is up to you how well you honor then and are loyal to them.

you may say that Adi did not honor his relationship with Amrita, but the truth is that Aditya was neve really in love with Amrita. he liked her, was close to her, could share his problems with her she was his friend, but he always hesitated to take the relationship to the level of marriage always putting it of for some reason or another.

but he could not do that with sugni. he could have told maa takhur the truth that he and sugni were not getting married. but he couldent, he knew he was about to loose sugni but he coudl not say it out loud to his family. nor could he say it to sugni all he wanted to do was tell her he loved her. but could not becauese she was still in love with vikram. but that did not matter he loved her and the love did not become any less. he would honor that love in their frindship.

Aditya did the honorable thing by standing by his wife. it does not matter what happened in the past. it is the present and furture that counts. the present is that Sugni is Aditya's wife. and the furture will play out according to that.

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@lidvin

Voyager

+ 2

Posted: 12 years ago

#13

I hope in future also he stands by her and trust her. If u ask me they might show somebody brainwashing or putting a seed in his head like rewa did to vikram and u may see adi doubting sugni (how can the show move forward without him not doubting sugni purely my POV)

In future i feel the CV's will show misunderstanding between them too.

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Istila

@Istila

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Posted: 12 years ago

#14

Originally posted by: merrydock
i think you are wrong, in now way did aditya dishonor his family.

This is obviously a self-opinionated remark where it shows no respect to other member views and it clearly seems you have't actually understood real abusive marital relationships or even watched the show.

Originally posted by: merrydock
before maa thakur found out that sugni was from the bedni family she was quite happy to have sugni as a bahu. and she was also the one to see Aditya's love for sugni in his eyes. now she is ruled by prejudice. do you think that if vikram had married sugni she would have gotten acceptance, but you would have praised him for standing by the woman he loves right. you 'er prejudice. your prejudice towards Aditya and sugni Relationship. maa thakur would have hated shgni more if she had married vikram, becauese she would then have broken a marriage for her own benifit. but in your eyes that would be acceptabel because reva is a bitch, and vikram and sugni love each other.

Attacking other members personally and calling them that they are prejudiced for having their views about a show is a wrong accusation. I also think it is wrong to use abusive language as it is still profanity even if meant for a character because members are reading. Remember it's only a fictitious show.

If Vikram tells his mother that Sugni is a bedni, he is right. Remember Sugni tried to sell her body not once, but many times so he has every right to tell his mother she is a bedni. Don't forget that Sugni was engaged with Vikram and suddenly decided to marry Adi, his nephew, after trying sell her body without reason, prostituting herself to any married Takur. She is not fit to be in a decent household. Sugni a daughter of a prostitute, marrying the nephew of the man she was about to marry, is a serious marriage issue and of course, it will cause conflict.

Gulabiya herself told Sugni that Vikram is already married and Aditya fans all applauded this knowing full well that Vikram loved Sugni BEFORE his abusive and violent wife, Reva suddenly showed up from the dead, yet you all still only accept Adni.

Originally posted by: merrydock
i salute Aditya for what he did, sugni may not know that Aditya is in love with her. but he is and now she is his wife and he knows that with everyone in the family against her he is her only support and strength and he stood by his wife. and every man should do.

I DEPLORE Aditya's & Sughni's SHAMELESS and DISHONOURABLE ACTIONS.

What kind of woman who understands what love is, after falling in love, and is shown to be in love with another man would suddenly marry a man without having feelings for the man she is marrying? What does that tell us? What kind of marriage is that? It's a FORCED marriage made under pressure. He HAS NO RIGHT TO STAND FOR HIS MAMA'S EX-FIANCEE. He knew his uncle was madly in love with Sughni and saw Vikram heartbroken. Any decent, honourable nephew would NEVER attach any immoral feelings towards the prospective wife of his dear beloved uncle whom he said he treated like a father! Marrying her or 'falling in love' with his Mama's bride would never enter his thoughts!

Originally posted by: merrydock
he may have gone against his family, but only because they are against sugni and his relationship with her.

Adi is REBELLIOUS against his elders. He is sinful and ungrateful. He had an extra marital affair with his previous girlfriend, then jumped on to his Uncle's beloved - how utterly disgusting & disgraceful! His family are right to be against him, he did something really wrong. He Married a vulnerable and illiterate beni girl whom he knew was in love with his Uncle & his fiancee.

[quote]he has accepted the sancity of his marriage, that is the first step to understanding relationship and honoring them.

Adi has completely DESTROYED the sanctity of marriage & relations. He doesn't even know the meaning of the word marriage or honour. He has dishonoured Sughni by being infatuated with her even though he knows full well she was going to marry his Uncle, he distanced his uncle from marrying her even though he knew that Vikram was in a very abusive marriage and FORCED his uncle to remain in one, while he married his bride. That is WICKED.

Originally posted by: merrydock
you honor and accept the relationship you are born with, becaues they are blood relations and you are not give any other choice.

Therefore Aditya should have respected his relations but he doesn't. He hit his uncle and going against his own family when he knows he is wrong.

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Aarathi

@daffodil81

Inactive

+ 6

Posted: 12 years ago

#15

The difference between vikram marrying/loving sugni and aditya marrying/loving sugni is the important thing here.

Vikram had a disappointing marital life so if he chooses to end it its purely his personal decision. Till now I never saw adi or sugni confronting reva or vicky and ask them why their relationship is not happening and try to sort it out instead they were busy getting engaged/married.

Sugni didnt bother to ask vicky whom she loves so much as to why he wants to divorce reva neither did adi.

Aditya's weakness towards sugni is making him do all this. Right now he cares a damn for his mom granny or mama becoz he is blind in love and seriously telling he has indeed come inbetween vikram and sugni otherwise vikram might have sorted it out with sugni and after divorcing reva he would have married sugni which according to me is not a crime. But adi sugni have driven vicky to desperation and now he is a wounded tiger.

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Pankhudi

@..Pankhudi..

Rocker

+ 2

Posted: 12 years ago

#16

@ istila and @aarthi

i applaud you both nicely put in , can't agree more 👏

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Istila

@Istila

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Posted: 12 years ago

#17

It's the Cvs who have driven Vikram to be a wounded tiger. In reality a man of integrity & good sense like Vikram, doesn't fall like this. He would do something positive, sacrifice or move on.

The CVs made Vikram say a blasphemy against God that he will have Sugni at all cost 'even God' can not stop him. The CV's used 'God' to put a man of good character down. Most men of God are God-Fearing & of strong character.

The blasphemy that men of real good character lose their senses & fall into evil, is the message that CVs want coming across, that is it is better to be evil, have illicit affairs (God forbid) than be good, living a responsible life trying to marry someone who they can love and care for...

The Cvs forget one thing. How can a man of good character forget his moral principles & lose his integrity? Good people die with these traits. The fact that they twist & turn events to humiliate the sense of good character & make a mockery out of goodness & virtue, depicting a moral solution out of an immoral one, without carrying the burden of responsibility, is what is so outrageous and wrong. Now at least we know that these lengthy Indian serials can stoop this new low level.

Edited by Istila - 12 years ago

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Istila

@Istila

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Posted: 12 years ago

#18

Originally posted by: pankhudi11
@ istila and @aarthi

i applaud you both nicely put in , can't agree more 👏

Thank you dear :)

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Julie

@JulieD

Voyager

Posted: 12 years ago

#19

Istila: loved your post.

If they want to claim Vikram as being unfair to his wife, then the same applies to Aditya. He also deceived Amrita. If he knew that he was not in love with her, then why have her stay in his home and get engaged to her publicly? And that is what he did to his FRIEND!!

Sugni keeps telling Vikram that he doesn't know how to maintain relationships but the truth is that Aditya and Sugni are the ones who are ignorant to the value of relationships.

Sugni disregarded first her mother. Then she betrayed her friend Amrita, who has not to date done her a single bad thing.

Next she betrayed Vikram, who she claims to love so much by marrying his nephew. She also deceived MT by having her believe that she was from some thakur family.

She even betrayed Champa when she did not speak up and say that Champa is her friend.

Aditya has betrayed Amrita. He has betrayed his mother and grandmother. And worse of all his uncle. This very uncle who has stood by him through thick and thin.

He told his family that if they disrespected Sugni then he would forget that he was related to them and also disrespect them. But he has already done that numerous times.

Adini is the most disgusting, immoral jodi ever.

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Istila

@Istila

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Posted: 12 years ago

#20

Julie,

Thank you Julie :) I agree with you absolutely. It's seems clear to us, the audience, that this show is going on the wrong footing.

Vikram was responsible, he had a good character, he provided for his family, he persevered through their harsh criticisms even though he was not at fault. He did not commit infidelity. Aditya had relationships outside marriage and was irresponsible. Vikram was good to all and especially to Sugni. He left the house yet, they brought him back there to assassinate his good character and turn him into a violent abusive psychopath.

It is in fact quite harmful for our society to see or watch violence on women, The negative effects of watching abuse & violence has been well researched & documented. If someone wants to learn about the big bad world out there then, newspapers & TV's are filled with such stories. People want to watch a film or a short drama to relax, to enjoy and learn something good not watch endless terrifying violence on to vulnerable women. Apart from being totally out of place & illogical, imagine the hours of showing abuse on women will do to men's mentality out there? Will a woman ever trust a decent man or get married?

Yes there are deceiving men out there, but there doesn't happen to be an instance which I have heard, read or seen in my life where good decent middle aged men would suddenly show their 'true tiger' stripes & terrorise young women becoming violent or mad! Yes, a tiger's stripes don't change overnight, so those men who are really bad, were bad to begin with. Men who are always good don't change negatively. Therefore, to change a zebra stripes to a tiger's is not going to convince the audience the zebra is a tiger.

Vikram was already a married man he has been living without his wife for long periods of time, he was used to a single way of life & although lonely he was content. He has been calm throughout that period. To suddenly then show he is violent because of a near impossible scenario - his abusive violent wife turning up alive from the dead and his nephew, who loved and treated him as his real father, now all of a sudden married the woman Vikram loves and was about to wed,..is not only unrealistic but totally preposterous. Excuse me, but how often does a dead woman come back to life or nephews marry their Uncle's brides in the real (big, bad) world???

Even the two Aditya characters played by alternative actors have completely different personalities! That in itself was a real put off.

These Indian serials are mixed up with so many stories and without thinking they lost focus on what what was shown in the beginning. Unless the first episodes were used to gain attention & cheat people into watching the show, Vikram was portrayed as nothing else than a decent human being. If he was bad, then they have made a mess of the show as the story is incongruent, filled up with lots of inconsistencies.

Vikram wasn't bad, therefore to show a strong man with good character, who had self control and good temperament to now suddenly succumb to his low base ego, is absolutely nonsense and it is totally unacceptable.

Edited by Istila - 12 years ago

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