Gulabiya vs Vikram

Please this post is not to create tension, please enjoy and respond if you like. A good debate is healthy for the heart.😆

I know it may seem out of place for Vikram to challenge Gulabiya, but let us say for argument sake, Gulabiya did have her priorities wrong. Wouldn't you want a man who is not weak and will stand up for you no matter who it is? Time and time again, we watch these serials, with these mamas boys, who watch their love interest be abused by their family or society, and they are silent, isn't Vikram a pleasant change to these boys? I really did not see a right out disrespect towards Gulabiya, only a man who decided he is not backing down, not even to her Mother. Let us face it, the only fears Vikram seems to have is losing Sugni, and letting down Reva, so Gulabiya seems like the least of his problems.

On the other hand, even though my personal view is that Gulabiya is over doing it, due to her insecurities, I believe she is truly not aware of her behaviour and how her methods are further distancing Sugni.

I think it is sickness(not really a bad one) that most parents, especially Mothers have when it comes to their children, they impose their past experiences on the lives of their children. Often enough, our fears somehow bring the laws of negativity towards our children to experience same. Maybe I am superstitious, but how often with our own parents, do we hear, don't do this or that, and somehow we draw the same situation they are talking about. I often wonder why this happens.

Often enough parents forget the values they taught their own children, when they see them in trouble. Why spend so many years teaching them the right values, and in every situation they face doubt your own taught values? The Sugni that we met from day one, was a principled, strong willed, ambitious and determined young lady and that is who Vikram fell in love with. Sugni never wanted to live the life of a Bedni, so I believe Gulabiya should trust the daughter she knows and allow her to make her own mistakes(if that is what she is doing). We know within ourselves, that it is the most annoying thing when our parents are hell bent on preaching to us, and we feel misunderstood and that we are not trusted.😆 No matter how great their intentions are. When you are in love for the first time, no one can tell you anything, everything is beautiful, until your hearts becomes broken. They say it is better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all. I think Vikram Singh should be written beside that saying.😆

Vikram is a mature man, not a boy, he will not succumb to Gulabiya like a little boy to be scolded, "Leave my daughter." Even if we believe he is wrong, he is still an experienced MAN, and Gulabiya seems to be forgetting that. It can't be easy for him to fight his family, the Thakurs and Gulabiya to marry a Bedni, not knowing how to divorce and insane woman without looking like the bad guy, What should he really do? Vikram is a man with many responsibilities, he has a family to take care of, a wife who cannot take care of herself and his responsibilities to society. He is fighting to keep Sugni with all this on his shoulder, not to mention he has shown many instances of getting rid of all those responsibilities just for her.

I am a lady, I would tell the truth, but I can't think for a powerful Thakur who is going against the world to marry his forbidden love and not wanting to throw his insane wife in the streets.

Whether we want to love him or hate him, he is something to be reckoned with.👏

Gulabia is a Bedni; to her Takhurs do not marry outside of their circle. Let us face it; TVS NEVER showed up with a proposal after he confessed his love for Sugni...but even before then, Gulabiya was insecure...she was already worried the minute Sugni confessed her love for him. She was afraid even at that point. So Gulabiya's fears were there from the start. She LOVES her daughter and just like a true mother she will protect her with her life. As I wrote earlier, Gulabiya will forgive God for her own misery if Sugni is happy. But for her Sugni getting married IS important and for her to marry TVS is not going to happen because he is already married.

So, even though Sugni does not get her Sardakai, she is going to enter into a marriage as Wife No 2. Meaning he has already got a wfie...so what does that make her? Another concubine like Gulabiya. TVS can say he loves her and stand up for her etc, but the fact is he is doing wrong to her by lying even if it is all for love. However, as your post expresses so well, this is character that is torn after the sudden reappearance of Wife No. 1. Until the writers address the reason why he does not go after a divorce or an effort on TVS' part, Sugni will never have a legitmate marriage.

Now, the issue comes up whehter Gulabiya will let Sugni marry him if he does become single...And I say this in the even Sugni does want to marry him in the end.

Vikram's show down with Gulabiya is sad...she is the mother of the one he loves...she is going to be "his" mother in a funny sort of way...rather than honor and respect her, he has reduced to her to a thorn in his side that must be diposed off. Taking Sugni away from her mother is wrong...I hope he comes to this realization...he owes her a big apology and I hope he makes it up big time...hope she has it in her heart to one day forgive him.

I am a bit confused about Gulabiya initial problem with Vikram for the following reasons:

1. Earlier he was understood to be a widower

2. He treated Sugni way better than her father ever treated Gulabiya.

Vikram has helped Sugni's family so many times, so how can anyone compare the two Thakur's? Sugni's Dad told Gulabiya she was a mistake and he regretted their relationship. So, I don't understand the initial fear.

3. Gulabiya was a paid mistress and I am confused about her expectations from Sugni's dad ( I keep forgetting his name). Sugni's dad only treated her like an object and she could not come before his wife. So, why is Gulabiya comparing him to what we thought was a single man?

Now that we know Vikram is married, I can understand her issues.

I keep feeling that Reva and Dhanuma and possible Vikram's older sister is in this ploy to stop Vikram from marrying Sugni. Why did Dhanuma go on that short trip, and this supposed dead wife suddenly appears? I feel Vikram is being set up so he does not marry Sugni. Reva had a weird look on her face when Vikram was speaking to Gulabiya. This lady is up to something and it wreaks Dhanuma.

Just my two cents

As well as if the Cvs really want to be cold, they may reveal later that Vikram is lying and he knew all along that his wife was not dead and in the old mansion. That could explain the picture of them both, that Sugni saw with nothing indicating she is dead. Vikram did say he was not in love with her, so it is sorter of strange to have a picture with them both in his room and she is supposed to be dead.

I think the mystery is in why we did not see Dhanuma leaving the mansion or going there this whole time. Also, since Vikram just came to the town after some time, where was this wife before and clearly came alone, when Sugni picked him up at the train station?

That is why I believe Vikram is speaking the truth of not knowing she was alive before and Dhanuma pulled out this ace card to ruin Vikram and Sugni Jodi. If Dhanuma is guilty where was Reva all this time? Reva may be acting insane and is probably quite normal, but when Dhanuma came and told her what Vikram is about to do, marry a Bedni, she decided to emerge and pretend to be insane so Vikram does not divorce her.

Just my two cents.

Viewers are quite smart. 😉

As you rightly say they need to keep someone to monitor the story lines, so we don't see so many holes in the stories, and Zee shows are famous for these holes.😆

Thanks for pointing out, that Vikram's sister said Dhanuma does go on visits, I did not recall that, you should be the writer then😃

If that is the case, then Dhanuma has always been up to something. Maybe Dhanuma found her some time ago, after they thought she was dead, and kept her away for whatever reason. However, now that she realised Vikram will marry a Bedni, she said hell no I am going for the real wife.

I wonder how Gulabiya will go to save her daughter? I wonder if we will soon see team Adi and Gulabiya and as usual poor Amrita trying to save Sugni and Vikram.

There so many exciting things that could be revealed, as long as they do not have a Adi and Sugni Jodi. It is too late for this Jodi.

Hillydee and Laila, interesting discussions. Yes, seems dhanuma's involvement in all this is more than meets the eye. BTW, just a little correction about what jiji told her when she wanted to take 2 days off. Actually jiji asked where could she possibly go since she had NO family at all. To which she said, "maalkin, agar aap zyada kachu no poochein tho meharbani hogi etc" Which implies dhanuma DOES have a family (as subsequently and suddenly revealed to viewers) … i.e. her son's daughter in the dark haveli "to keep Riwa company" ... gosh, sounds so weird and odd.

Addressing Problem NO. 1 for Aditya Thakur.

This is why I never try to predict human behaviour literally, because one would not expect based on her free spiritedness and liberal attitude, that Amrita would conform to such a situation. Amrita seems to really love Adi, and that is why she is tolerating all this. Her questions were brought up because she is comparing her relationship to Vikram and Sugni

Adi is not coming across as a stand-up guy, and this is being double standard when he did not protest his Mother's wish for Sugni to do the Rai dance. Yet he constantly insulted Sugni about her Bedni status.

This is one of the reasons I have a problem with this Adi Sugni Jodi. Some people may like the whole hate you then love you relationship. However, this is a different type of hate, Adi looks totally down on Sugni, How can a genuine love and admiration be stemmed from this?

Adi's Mom was genuinely hurt, and I feel for her as a woman, but her mental state of mind is seriously questionable, she needs to let go.

Vikram Thakur - Problem No. 1

Vikram, if we are to believe what he said, Vikram fell in love with Sugni before he found out his wife was still alive. As far as he is concerned he is totally in love with Sugni and he does not know how to divorce his wife, since she is perceived to be insane. I have a bad feeling she is quite normal and this is just a ploy between her and Dhanuma, but that is just my POV.

Problem 2

I am not seeing where he wants to divorce her, maybe he feels he can continue to take care of her and still marry Sugni and win win win. The path he is on really does make him look bad. However, I have lived long enough to know that people will do the strangest or craziest things in some situations. Sometimes, it is even people you thought were rational and good. I don't know, we will have to see the story unfold.

When Riva broke down in Friday's episode Vikram held her tightly and comforted her and said I am with you. He looked like he felt really bad, so I can't feel he is an evil man.

We must remember though, that in one of his arguments with his Older sister, he did state that she forced him to marry Riva, and it was obvious he was very unhappy with her and he was not in love. So, it can't be easy for him to find out she is still alive, just when he has finally found true love. I am not trying to be cruel, just trying to be more realistic about this situation.

Ideally, one should marry and follow their vows, but are these vows humanly realistic? We can never predict anyone's behaviour but our own, and even sometimes we surprise our own selves. Just my POV.

Problem 3

As far as what the Cvs are trying to unfold, the little girl is supposed to be Dhanuma's granddaughter to keep Riva's company in the old mansion. Who knows her real identity, the cvs can always come up with something else, but for now she is not Vikram's daughter.

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