Marriage in Mandir or Sardhakayi??????

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Vikram Sugni will think its marriage and the whole world will know its sardhakayi we saw how the ceremony happens. The Mandir Marriage is equal to that and then already he has put the chunni on her again today why he put on her head why not give it in her hands. Sugni why have you fallen into his trap and charm VS loves her but its all wrong is it love, lust, obsession to possess (Piu 1st came out with this) knowing Sugni will never want to go through sardhakayi.


There does seem to be genuine feeling but something is very wrong. VS cant tolerate any one going against his wishes whether at home or outside.G wants to save her daughter she is not questioning VS love but knows there is a dark secret he is hiding which maybe his family also dont know.

A person who can leave a small child alone in a godforsaken house leaves a bad taste even though he goes and takes care of her .IS she his or maybe his wife's child has yet to come out. did she not love him and dared to love someone else after marriage whatever is their story but its something wrong.
Looking at Sugni I feel she is like the shama in this song without even realizing what is happening to her

shama bujhane ko chali -2
hai yahi dard ki jal jaaye patanga na kaheen
shama bujhane ko chali ...

usane chaaha ki mera chaahane vaala to rahe
main rahoon ya na rahoon ghar ka ujaala to rahe
apane preetam ke lie chhod di preetam ki gali
shama bujhane ko chali ...

bhoolakar sabako bas ik apani vafa saath lie
apane hi ashqon mein bheegi hui ik raat lie
gam ke toofaan mein ghiri thokaren khaati nikali
shama bujhane ko chali ..

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Laila2009 thumbnail
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I think it would be more interesting if it was not his child but the child of his wife and lover. But I feel that it is his wife's child, she is alive but somewhere else - sick - in an asylum. When he marries Sugni, it will be a marriage with the saat phere - I hope - but since he is already married, she has now become, indirectly, his mistress. The world recognizes it as such EVEN if they have been marrried.
I think that would add to a really good twist to the show...A LOT of drama and what does Sugni do - does she accept this as her "marriage." How will his family view it? Society?

The question then becomes - why does TVS not divorce first wife to be with Sugni?
The situation has to be such that TVS wants to tell her but can't...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@chalhov, that is exactly how I felt. Why did he have to place the chunari over her head? He knows how she feels about the sardhakai custom and what is the significance of a thakur placing a chunari on a bedni's head. he should have been extra sensitive and stayed away from it.

There is a different type of desperation in his actions now. he seems to want to possess her regardless of what he said earlier. Sugni said something really interesting in today's episode. She said she fell in love with him not because he is a thakur or his good looks. She fell in love with his way of talking or his sweet talking has given her a trust in him as a result of which she will die for him. all he has to do is ask. This conversation and his behaviour shows an obsession or a very strong and almost dangerous attraction between the two. Perhaps if given time it would have calmed down into true love. But i am starting to question if they really love each.

hmmm don't like how this is going. not at all. Regardless of what happens in the future he has done her sardhakai. Even if Gulabia is able to stop the mandir wedding they are already tied together!

It doesn't matter now society views - a bad relationship is a bad relationship for a woman, whether it is a sardhakai or marriage with saath phere! Jalwa is a good example of this...his relationship with both women - his wife and mistress are toxic!
Edited by Shell16 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I knw hez rushing to marry her before the truth cumz out... bt that doesn't turn his luv into lust at all.. nd 1 thng is fr sure if there will be any situation where he has to do sugni's sardhakai then it will be infront of everyone nt in mandir or isolated place .. .. i dun knw wot the hell is gonna cum frn that haveli... bt one thing i can say with surety is that he luvz her truly ... therz no lust at alll .. cvz may turn it into obsession on later stage bt rightnw its only luv nd a fear of loosing her nothing else ... 😊
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Putija, my heart sank when TVS opened the cupboard door and pulled out "readymade" sardhakai chunari😲😲😲 instead of respectfully and emotionally giving it to her or doing it in a proper traditional way to Mai. Sugni is completely swept off her feet and lost her otherwise "wise" brain and completely fallen for this man's colorful words and head over heels in love with him that her reasoning power is lost.
The way she broke ties with her Mai was heartbreaking. These are the same two people who made us viewers proud of their unconditional, unbreakable mother-daughter love and understanding, concern and care. Sab ka maliyamet ho gaya ek hi jhatke mein? What a pity! 😲 She certainly has set a perfect example of "LOVE IS NOT JUST BLIND BUT SENSELESS" too.
And how could TVS even dare to drape chunari over her head when not too long ago he was even rebuking her (on her 1st Raai on April 27 epi I think, he in blue attire) and telling her the way she did badi badi baatein that I will never dance in front of thakurs etc ? And here he makes a complete 180 and does exactly what she dispised all along ? What a height of disrespect 😲😡 At this point I just dont know what significance Mandir "wedding" isgoing to have. This is a clear USE of Sugani for the sake of the little girl, period, IMO, whoever's daughter she is. 😲
And like Mai said, there's a big difference between "saat mithi baatein and saat phere" ! And I couldn't agree more.
And like Shelly says ... "She fell in love with him not because he is a thakur or his good looks. She fell in love with his way of talking or his sweet talking has given her a trust in him as a result of which she will die for him, all he has to do is ask." Those words and assurance of Sugni is exactly what TVS ears were aching to hear and his grey character and obsessive harkatein achieved it in flying colors.😲
Today's epi has put a very bad taste in the mouth. Something is terribly skewed and odd. All of a sudden, TVS eyes show scare, desperation, obsession, NOT love which got us all so hooked. I for one am all disillusioned and confused. Is this the trust and vishwas TVS has been talking about danke ki zor se??? Only coming days will tell what CVs has cooked up.
Love the song you have posted, so appropriate and so apt. It's from '64 movie Ganga ki lehrein ...

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9m8zqrKn2w[/YOUTUBE]
Still, all said and done and all the mixed feelings, my heart still believes strongly that TVS loves her dearly and cannot lose her at any cost, and hence on his part taking all the measures to have her for ever, even if he has to cross Mai.
Edited by radev24 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Great topic Chalhov

To tell you the truth there is too much going on for me to even comment. I think even without a sar dakai or marriage Sugni was always tied to Vik and that is something that can't be changed. Called it destiny or calculating manipulation but for whatever reason there paths crossed in many ways and there was no turning back. We know it wasn't going to be pretty so why are some shock or disappointed in TVS or Sugni. I don't know if by putting the chunari on her meant sar dakai. Vik threw the scarf on Sugni before her friend said her sar darkai was done. So if Sugvi even go to the temple and have a real marriage will it still be recognize or void cause his wife is alive 😕

By looking at this does it looks Sugni married or sar dakai





I'm good with everything happening in this show except RM.The thought of someone dead or alive behind that wall isn't sitting well with me.

I'm just going to watch and not speculate cause there is still things we don't know to form any conclusion

but what the hell do TVS have a red chunari in his cupboard or was that already made for Sugni for there shaadi
Edited by pyar-ishk - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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It looks like marriage but Gulabiya also wears sindoor and mangalsutra is she also married

Will reply to all later very interesting posts
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Very nice topic... may be sardhakay... i am so 😕
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Since the concept is of sardakai only this comes to my mind - maybe at nick of time gualabai will walk in with TVS wife and child and stop the marriage. TVS will try to explain to sugni but this time she may not bulge, which leaves him with no option but to say that he has done her sardhaki. Sugni takes the challenge and stays in TVS house on her condition's. Gulabai will tell adi to remember his vachan and keep a watch on sugni and if articles are to be believe about sugni-adi pairing then this may be the time when adi will come to know her better and falls in love with her and where their love stroy start and the fight of sardhakai will start.

The Bedni community will taunt gulabai see we were right that a bedni will alway be a bedni But then what about TVS words to the Thakur that he will marry sugni and about bednis rights which TVS has always stood up at the time of panchayat, their mela dance etc etc. where this will leave him in front of thakur and esspecially TJS. Woudn't he be a laughing stock in front of Thakur's n whole village?


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Great topic, @Chalhov!

I was thinking the same thing when he brought out that chunni. He's already put a gold chain around her neck as his first pyar ki nishani and now he's put the chunni. Tomorrow he'll put sindoor and her sardhakai will be complete.

I really hope I'm wrong though because I don't think I could bear it if this was some elaborate Thakur play after all the CVs have done to show TVS getting upset every time someone suggests he do Sugni's sardhakai.

It will be interesting though if he means to marry her but thanks to his actions (hiding the truth from her) he accidentally does her sardhakai in the eyes of the world - his love becomes her curse, sort of thing.

Kahani poori filmy hai! 😆

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