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Posted: 13 years ago
#31
honestly i did not like the idea when suggestions were made to mail Zee or Cv's to make TVS positve etc..i mean we should be patient and not interfere with the CV's thought process...

that time also i said i wont send any such mail because then channel might pressurise PH to change the story or cater to the needs of fans demand..we should believe in what CVs are showing...

all my trouble is we can see the difference between projection of TVS earlier and TVS who is shown now..the contrast is so evident...am still wondering what led to such a change ?



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Posted: 13 years ago
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I think we should all be patient and wait for the story to develop more. PSH started only 2 months ago. It's not even crossed 100 episodes. The story is building up to a big climax, SugVi's marriage.

This Jane Eyre plot is more about Vikram and not Sugni. But I am not interested in Vikram's secrets. I am watching to know how a bedia woman refuses to accept what society says and is successful.

But I don't agree that the story is cliched. How will Vikram turning grey or black be unique? That is equally predictable. So many TV serials and films have shown such characters. Nothing new for Indian audience.

The CVs may have changed the story from Adi-Sugni to Vikram-Sugni. But if it helps the show, why not? I don't think Adi's character has the same strength as Vikram's. May be Adi will become the hero in the 4th or 5th month but by then audience will be gone. They have to show who is the hero within 1 or 2 months. Looks like the audience liked Vikram over Adi. We can't say people watching the programme on TV are not mature or don't like complicated stories. People will like a story that is told well and acted well. If they have liked Vikram -Sugni there must be a reason. People watching on TV are not only watching for romance. There are lot of women and older people also watching.

I do agree that good actors like JT are being sidelined. That is not good. Good actors should be given more screen time. But it is too early to say PSH is disappointing. I would give another 2 months before I say that. May be it will become disappointing because of the way TV serials are usually. But I am going to wait.

Personally, I prefer stories that show people continuing to be honest in spite of difficulties. I don't want grey. There is enough grey and black in the world. That's not interesting to watch. I want to see how a person can be good and also win.




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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Laila2009

Excellent points. Glad to have caught this as my friends discussed the same. The problem with the show is they rushed the romance between Sugni and TVS because they did not originally plan for them to be a couple. This was a poor move on their part because this hit jodi would have benefited from more scenes of these two getting to know each other over time. The focus on the struggle of the Bedni(s) and there could have been more shown such as TVS trying to bring in a business for the women who were interested in leaving this lifesytle and Sugni being a part of the women who motivated them...and in due course him falling for her and vice versa...You could have ad mirch masala with people trying to kill them both, a kidnapping, threats etc. Not getting the business deals - anything...Even TVS taking Sugni to the city to try to get contractors - and romance developing...and him showing her city life. And of course more scenes between these two arguing with each other. Now we see a rona dona Sugni and as you so well pointed out an insecure and troubled TVS. That's not new.
I would have MUCH rather preferred a TVS who saw Sugni as a means to get back at TJS and over due course realize that he was in love with her. A Sugni betrayed and used who seeks vegence against a man who has fallen for her would have been more interesting to watch...



Laila,
Good point. The story could have taken a little slow pace. It is going at jet speed. That is why I think there is going to be a big crash. Vikram and Sugni will have to start all over again. Only Reva Manzil and mad wife cannot keep it going for PSH. It didn't work for Sapnon ke bhanwar mein. Audience is interested in Vikram-Sugni, not Vikram's past. So the CVs wll soon have to move in the way you have suggested.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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It is important to understand that constructive criticism does mean you appreciate when you actually find something noteworthy and do have the will to express freely when you dislike...Nothing biased about that.The question here is NOT whether TVS love is genuine,Whether GREY BLACK WHITE..The question here is there is a COMPLETE discrepancy in the character DEVELOPMENT of TVS from what they begun with...
TVS WORRIED 😕AFRAID expressions..IS NOT TVS...for me...He was this MAGNIFICENT FEARLESS PERSON..We might ARGUE that FEAR for love makes us so..But the CONFIDENCE on his face is lacking...So a SMART thakur FOOLED by Dhanuma...REALLY?Is this ORIGINAL...😕

So my point here is If I can sing praises of GLORY when I really found the show INTERESTING then I can equally express my disappointment too.
Regarding TRP's ..The much less talked about the less better..Coz TRP's are certainly not the YARDSTICKS for measuring QUALITY certainly not.Agar TRP's were EQUAL to QUALITY then UTTER BHANGAAR shows were not be LEADING the charts...
I agree that writers do have lots of aspects in mind while creating the story..,But I cannot just overlook flaws...
The show made me intrigued but I have nothing left to my imagination now ...
@ Neilu..🤗Haan bache EXACTLY ...TVS the SMARTEST thakur fooled b y DHANUMA...really heights of IDIOCYand I agree with you regarding the mails and stuff...One should never interfere in the works of CV's vision..It might be that they actually changed their mind..coz there is a lot of DISCREPANCY in the potrayal of Vikram .One fine day he is all SHEEPISH and does not want anyone to see him and the next week he PROCLAIMS love NOT DIGESTABLE
@ anastasia glad that you too agree coz I thought I was the only one
@Mansi,Chalhov and Rani🤗

Awww I am still attached to the show yaar..But I am certainly not happy with the proceedings coz...I had set very high standards for this show..and this whole CLICHE plot is making me unhappy...
@ Laila...I agree to some extent about rushing of the plot ..I really do not have complaints with the pace but this whole CLICHE plot makes me wary😕
@Kamala...See I guess we both have very contrasting set of views when it comes to shows...I love to watch only those shows which have some UNUSUAL PLOT ...And in this whole world nothing is black or white GREY shades EXIST which makes it more interesting...
For me "Unless it is mad,passionate and EXTRAORDINARY love is a waste of time,There are so many mediocre things in life..Love shouldn't be one of them..."
To each his own...But I really like these discussions with you all..coz we get to know so many different viewpoints


Edited by manzilmukul - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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exactly piu...

when we say we want TVS to be smart..to be grey ..it is because TVS was projected like that. the hints were there even in the background music used for TVS...now all of a sudden U-turn..which shows inconsistency ..if he was good from the very beginning..then there was no disappointment..


the way he danced with sugini was not a man in genuine love for sure..the man which is shown now is surely in love...
how should we connect these two things together ??? characters with layers exist but with consistency..not like this where there is no connection ...


regarding TRP's ..i have no opinion..coz TRP is like a demon which eats up good shows ..no matter how good they are...

we appreciated when we liked the show..similarily we can discuss the flaws also...else what is the need of this forum and discussions...

it does not mean the show is bad...i will definitely watch it and i hope CV's prove us wrong by making TVS consistent in his acts..now he should remain postive coz henceforth showing him gray wont make any sense again..atleast i wont be able to digest it..



Edited by nneeiill - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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MM - I am all for a fast moving show but I do believe that more scenes and a slower pace - not slower scenes of the romance could have helped the show. I see what you mean in that you want to see a strong and confident TVS - the kind we all chose to like in the first place.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I don't get how Vikram is not on to Dhanuma. Makes no sense. Earlier, he knew Dhanuma just didn't care enough to give Sugni a job, and he didn't care too much. But now, why does Dhanuma think she can get away with this?

As for all the other discussion.

I've never had a problem with him being negative. Laila's right though that a section of the Indian audience is not really accepting of it, of course there always have been and will be exceptions. Negative a lot of times automatically rules everything out. I was down with a negative Vikram and a story about Vikram and Sugni. All I cared was that it not be ___.

When I read the update of his confession, I was like--this seems fishy. But I saw the episode, and saw in what context he said he was in love with her at first sight.

I still think that this Vik-Sugni story should've been a bit more developed and done a bit more slowly. They shouldn't have rushed in.

I disagree that the dance scene was not of a man in genuine love. Sure it had other stuff mixed in, but it didn't really seem bad to me. It's just the whole dynamic that makes it seem iffy, imo. Plus it was done in a more real way without some one minute eyelock, Mahi or Rabba Ve playing, etc etc. 😆

Thoughts of one who is behind in episodes. 😆
Edited by likarsh - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Piu you can criticize and this threads are for dicussing pros and cons of the show characters without bashing anyone otherwise we are like a chamcha mehfil here doing wah wah where it is not needed 4th July's episode brought out some of those intense obsessive feelings of TVS not the puppy love and very well potrayed by Varun

As for writing to the CVs somehow my personal feeling is they dont really much care except for the faulty system of TRPs (which I agree is a show killer and could be rigged and 8000 households ruling the India tv world dont know when the new policy will come to force) The more we write to them they sometimes come with nastier tracks and that kills the shows
Lets see whether they keep this show unique or get into the run of the mill tracks.
Edited by chalhov - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Likarsh they did have a signature tune o re piya but it is no more playing😆😉 in the recent episodes
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: chalhov

Likarsh they did have a signature tune o re piya but it is no more playing😆😉 in the recent episodes

😆 😆

But when it played during the dance it did make sense for that scene. That's what I meant. It was not so artificial. 😆

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