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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@Amri you didn't read my post. Where I have put clearly why I don't think him to be a husband material. 😆😆😆. How could you miss me. . I have even given examples of other fictional characters and what I liked about them. 😆😆


Aww, Shruthi😳🤗 I am just looking at the entire thread and had read the first page before replying. The discussions were quite interesting. I just finished reading the previous 6 pages and read your replies. You were bang on, and said everything that needed to be said.👏


I esp. liked your comment about how your husband helped you adjust in your own sasuraal- hayy. *nazar utarna of Shruthi and her hubby*😃
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Posted: 9 years ago
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And regarding the Alia thing- it was completely terrible on Abeer's part to make use of her naivete and put her in a dangerous situation. In my opinion, he was the one who was more responsible for the danger she was in. You just can't misuse a girl's innocence like that.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Amri-


Aww, Shruthi😳🤗 I am just looking at the entire thread and had read the first page before replying. The discussions were quite interesting. I just finished reading the previous 6 pages and read your replies. You were bang on, and said everything that needed to be said.👏


I esp. liked your comment about how your husband helped you adjust in your own sasuraal- hayy. *nazar utarna of Shruthi and her hubby*😃



Oh yeah! I too want a hubby who can make me feel comfortable at Sasural.. but not a hubby who will leave me in that new family when I'm pregnant...

PS: Too early for me to dream about hubby but I can' help..🤪


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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: .SSS.



This is something which I can't talk anymore, for the sake of my sanity!.. I was already banging my head for this.. Can't take more stress..😆


I feel you, bud😊 That was completely irresponsible on his part. Not to mention, could've led to potentially tragic consequences for that girl.

I will be frank with you- I've stopped watching the series, because I could no longer relate to Abeer and Meher's pairing. Meher, I can identify with most of the time. Sure, she has her faults too- she can be quite bull-headed herself, not to mention, a lil myopic. But at least I can see where she's coming from.

Abeer on the other hand- his recklessness and impulsiveness didn't endear himself to me and unfortunately I couldn't see any credence in his characterization anymore.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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i would say i can't agree more with your post. Meher has always been his top priority maybe in the selfish way that he wanted her all for himself but i feel that was more when he was young just after college.That was not the time for him to be a husband and hence he made some huge mistakes.
But abeer now is different. Maybe not in his immaturity levels but in his career he is successful.And one of the major reason of their divorce was the feeling of insecurity that nearly 90% of men have that their wife is more successful or at a higher post.

Since that hurdle is passed which was the major setback of their relationship, i think his immaturity can be overshadowed by his love.

@ malikakas- i loved your analysis.Mostly because some of your points actually made me think if abeer is indeed not what i think of him as.
i agree he is flawed like everyone else.
but in of the recent episodes he said to kuber that he is so high in his life that he doesnt need to drink anymore.I feel that suggests so much towards that he can change for the good.That he is not ready to back down from his responsibilities and taking his role as a husband and father importantly.

i know he has long way to cover with all his immature self, but that can't be the determinant of his role as a husband.
But indeed your points raised are something he needs to work at
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: sharoon3210

@shruthiravi

Thanks for clearing the doubt. But giving the testimony happens only in movies & shows. But in real life, no one will have time to go to the cops & lodge a complaint in cities like Mumbai. If any one goes to give a complaint, police will keep them in custody & they have to prove their innocence in the court.

For that matter even in Bangalore & other cities, there are so many hit & run cases but only the family members of that victim has to bear it.

Nobody actually cares. At the most that victim is admitted to the hospital.




Oh my god! What do you mean by this? Bua giving testimony is any thing wrong?😲
Many a people might not care to give a testimony in real life... but there exist at least a few people who care to do that like bua.. especially, Bua herself being a lawyer, she knows the value of law and order. If at least a few people like bua don't exist in this world then people like KM's brother will always do this careless act of drunk and drive which can cause innocent deaths. I don't have anything more to say. Peace!
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Posted: 9 years ago
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@cool kriti
I agree to u yaar
Tumne meri baat suni...
I was thinking to make a post like this ..
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Agreed with u..
Abeer's impulsiveness nd immaturity can be changed with love but he is good at heart.. Whatever happened has happened but he still thinks for Meher's family like never ill-treat her mother suman, her bua continue to abuse him, never ever missed a chance but he never act rude on her.. Akshat (though I believe chomu's true colors soon gonna come out) treats Meher's family well but whenever there's a problem with his plan (rather say ploy) he starts to unmask his so perfect personality like he was behaving with suman in yesterday's episode. Abeer could have questioned Suman that even she didn't tell him the truth but he did not do it. Moreover the way Akshat treated Alia in the restaurant was enough for a person to judge his sick mentality that how steep he can go for his cheap plans.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: malikakas

@cool Kirti

I think our difference in opinion comes from the fact that I don't see how Abeer has the right to make the determination Akshat is negative. Not saying Akshat won't turn out negative but Akshat hasn't done anything worse than Abeer has ever done so far.

Akshat touching Alia was wrong. But wasn't it just as wrong for Abeer to exploit Alia's sexuality and using her to lure Akshat like that? He didn't even ask Alia for permission to use her. He lied about the intention. Does that make Abeer a better man?

Akshat touched Alia inappropriately because he knew he was being framed and wanted to make her uncomfortable enough to run into Abeer's arms. But he wasn't actually getting off on it. If I were Akshat and someone was trying to frame me, I would think that woman is very cheap and deserved whatever tactic necessary.

But Abeer has also touched Meher inappropriately to make her uncomfortable. Like the dance at Nissar's party and when Meher had to kick him in the gut. So if Abeer can cross a line to prove a point, I don't see why I should have a higher standard for Akshat?

At least Aksaht doesn't try to get physical with Meher against her permission the way Abeer does. Abeer is her ex so he doesn't have a right to touch her when she is saying no. Can you imagine if Akshat faked an injury to hold Meher in his arms.. we would all think he is cheap even though he is her fiance. Yet Abeer does that.

This whole thing started with Abeer using Akshat's car as a washroom. What had Akshat done to him at that point? So do you think Abeer is unbiased enough to make a decision that he is better for Meher than Akshat?

Even Abeer chose to spike Meher's drink to bring her true personality in front of the world to get revenge against his father humiliating him. So how can Abeer think Akshat was bad based on that. When Appendix was pointing out how great of a catch Akshat was compared to him-- did Abeer stop and think that maybe he is right and that he wants the best for Meher. Or did he try to trap Akshat on false charges? So no i don't buy that Abeer is looking out for Meher's best interest.

I am glad you brought up your parents forcing you medicine. But Abeer is not Meher's parent. This is my fundamental problem. He doesn't have the right to decide what is right for her. He does not have the right to force himself on her which is what he has been doing. There is no law that says an ex-wife needs the approval of her ex-husband to decide on who to marry even if there are kids involved.

Frankly I am not even sure if Abeer has the understanding to know what is good for himself. If Abeer had any sense how could Akshat goad him into drinking when he knew he had a press conference? He chose to fall into peer pressure, something he is now teaching his son to do. Telling Ishaan he looks like a loser in glasses? I don't think Abeer has any idea of what a good parent is supposed to be.

Saying all that I think Abeer has the potential to be a better husband and father than Akshat but I don't think he is there yet where he can point fingers at Akshat's actions.

Yeah forgiveness is important. But how many times can you forgive he same mistake? Repeating the same mistake becomes a gunnah as Abeer said. How many times did Abeer fight with Meher and leave her for the night. They were married for a month-- he left at least 5 times after promising to never do it again. Meher easily forgave him every time. But the last time was the straw that broke the camel's back. I am not saying Meher acted perfectly but she tried to understand his perspective and change herself something Abeer did not do. And Abeer has not changed. He still was running in there to fight with Meher when Appendix stopped him.



@malikakas

I think we differ in our opinions a lot 😆😆

Well, the point is Abeer is not forcing Meher into anything... Meher is forcing herself into the marriage with Akshat for Ishaan... Your point about why should Meher take Abeer's permission to marry Akshat... Well, the point is she need not take permission but Abeer knows that Meher still loves him and she's marrying Akshat only for Ishaan's sake... which is very wrong...She is somehow convinced that Abeer cant be a good father... which is not true...The fact is she is not even giving a chance to Abeer to prove himself as a good father...

I think our difference in opinion comes from the fact that I don't see how Abeer has the right to make the determination Akshat is negative. Not saying Akshat won't turn out negative but Akshat hasn't done anything worse than Abeer has ever done so far.


More than whether AKshat is right or wrong the point is Meher still loves Abeer... SO she can never be happy with Akshat when she cant even tolerate his touch... So Abeer is taking control because he knows that Meher is punishing herself for his past actions..

Akshat touching Alia was wrong. But wasn't it just as wrong for Abeer to exploit Alia's sexuality and using her to lure Akshat like that? He didn't even ask Alia for permission to use her. He lied about the intention. Does that make Abeer a better man?

Using Alia was appendix plan... Though Abeer agrees to it finally but in any case he does not intend to harm or molest Alia...He just wants to make Alia to converse with Akshat just to see if Akshat is a good man...he keeps a close eye ...he comes and consoles her when Alia is hurt and upset by an inappropriate touch... that definitely proves he is a better man than Akshat to me atleast... he does not touch anybody other than Meher...


At least Aksaht doesn't try to get physical with Meher against her permission the way Abeer does. Abeer is her ex so he doesn't have a right to touch her when she is saying no. Can you imagine if Akshat faked an injury to hold Meher in his arms.. we would all think he is cheap even though he is her fiance. Yet Abeer does that.


Well most of the times Meher seems to not object when Abeer tries to touch her.. Like when he steadies her pleats of sari and when he holds her in office... And he does not do it for the sake of pleasure or anything... He knows very well that Meher has deep emotions for him which is buried inside and he tries to make her realise of her feelings...But in any case he does not cross any line...If he does not make Meher realise her feelings then she would be spoiling everybody's life here... her life (because she does not love Akshat, she cant be a great wife), Ishaan's life (poor lad does not even know who his real father is), Abeer's life, AKshat's life...If Meher did not love Abeer then whatever you said would be 100% correct... But she does love Abeer and Abeer knows that and that makes a whole lot of a difference...



Akshat touched Alia inappropriately because he knew he was being framed and wanted to make her uncomfortable enough to run into Abeer's arms. But he wasn't actually getting off on it. If I were Akshat and someone was trying to frame me, I would think that woman is very cheap and deserved whatever tactic necessary.


If Akshat finds Alia cheap and so he does all that then he cannot be called as a gentleman... Because then there would be no difference between him and ALia...When you try to clean dirt on the road with your hand , the dirt sticks to your hand... If he was so respectful and knew he would be framed he would have not come over there in the first place...



Frankly I am not even sure if Abeer has the understanding to know what is good for himself. If Abeer had any sense how could Akshat goad him into drinking when he knew he had a press conference?

Exactly my point😆😆 At one place you say that Abeer does not respect AKshat and does not even think that Akshat can be a good person and does not try to be his friend,...And when Abeer does exactly that and tries to be Akshat's friend only for Meher's sake and tries to be friendly and drinks as Akshat tells him to.. He's accused of lack of judgement... In anyway Abeer is blamed...


Yeah forgiveness is important. But how many times can you forgive he same mistake? Repeating the same mistake becomes a gunnah as Abeer said. How many times did Abeer fight with Meher and leave her for the night. They were married for a month-- he left at least 5 times after promising to never do it again. Meher easily forgave him every time. But the last time was the straw that broke the camel's back. I am not saying Meher acted perfectly but she tried to understand his perspective and change herself something Abeer did not do. And Abeer has not changed. He still was running in there to fight with Meher when Appendix stopped him.


Like i said you cant punish a person again and again for the same mistake... Abeer had his faults...And he paid for it... Meher gave him the biggest punishment of life by keeping his son away for 8 years... there cannot be a bigger punishment than that...Now its time to forgive and move on...😊


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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@cool_kirti I agree with Mallika. Abeer can be a good husband if he tries, but so far I have not seen anything in him that can be termed as needed to live a happy married. He simply doesn't respect Meher and her views. He doesn't give her space. he doesn't try to understand why she is doing what she is doing. I don't know whether you have seen DABH or EHT. But let me put some points here on why Sooraj and Dev stands over and above when it comes to becoming a husband

Sooraj understands his wife is unhappy in the marriage because he is only 9th pass and she is well educated. Because of the societal pressure she is unable to break the bond. To give her a second chance in life, to ensure she is not the one who should be faulted by the society the sweet gentleman becomes the most abusive husband throwing her out that too in front of the whole gali so that she gets the sympathy. He destroys his character for her. Yes he loved her, but loved her enough to let her go.
And yes they unite.
Once he knows her dream of becoming IPS officer, his mother putting pressure on her to move ahead with married life and seeing her confusion he takes the decision to have a celibate relation till she completes IPS.
She leaves her dream, but he doesn't allow her to and literally carries Sandhya so that she becomes IPS.
On the way he takes lot of blame on him, but every moment he guards her reputation. And it is not that she doesn't guard his reputation, but the path he walks make you respect him all the more.
In EHT a choice is given to Dev. If he marries Durga, Nithya will come in front of him on her birthday. Dev knows the mistake he committed, not being there for his friend when she needed him the most. He takes the punishment by letting her go, letting her have her wish. Because when he walks to the mandap he doesn't know Durga is Nithya. He leaves his love behind to fulfill his duty as a friend. That was his love for Nithya.
And when he finally knows Durga is Nithya there is an imaginery convo happening between them. That convo shows how much Dev has understood Nithya and her need at that point of time because he steps back not confessing his feelings for her giving her the space to do what she wants.
And that is what I call maturity which Abeer completely lack at this point. Yes he knows Meher loves him, but does he understand her, can he let her go. The answer is big no. And true love is in letting go.
Abeer didn't marry for 8 years I can give to Devdas also. After Paro married he went on drinking, drinking and died. Neither he lived,nor he allowed her to live. And I don't call it maturity. I call it living in the past, fool hardiness and escapism.
And coming to Akshat Abeer does not hold any right to hold him negative, bad or whatever. Akshat is another personality with grey shades. But Abeer is not perfect either. Before throwing stones at others, look at yourself once and your actions.
And leave these fictional characters I know how much space my husband has given me in my married life. How much he had supported me in understanding his family, helped me to navigate relations in his family as a new bride. And how much that support has helped me managing relations and had laid the foundation of a good married life.
A girl comes to the boy's house holding his hand, with he as her sole support system, trusting him, leaving behind her family and surroundings that are familiar to her.
And if she gets a baby and her husband in Singapore not owning up the responsibility of pregnancy, mistreatment from his family, she does turn out to be a Meher.



@shrutiravi I respect your opinion but I stand by what I have said...

Its very unfair to compare Abeer with Sooraj because Abeer was born in a super rich family and hence he was a more free spirited person...its Abeer's upbringing that was at fault... But whn i say Abeer is a Husband material i refer to present day Abeer who has changed and evolved as a person... Regarding his past he has already paid for his mistakes by losing his wife and child for 8 years... that is the biggest punishment he can get... a person cant be punished all his life for a single mistake...

And the main point here is Meher still loves Abeer. If Meher did not love him he would have moved on in life or let Meher be the way she wants to be... He does not want her to punish herself by marrying Akshat just for his past actions...

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