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Posted: 8 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: BeyondHorizon


I was actually not dreading it esp after the last pre leap epi where they showed Baji Kashi bond strengthening but post leap its just 🥱 I do agree with some of the members here that the focus should be on Bajirao's military conquests but given this is a TV show and not a documentary it would be hard. The majority of the focus could be on his political life and the few glimpses of his personal life should depict reality. Am sure he shared a sweet bond with Kashi. He had many children with Kashi than with Mastani but that is not the case here. There is no understanding, no trust and no love between Baji Kashi. On twitter Bajirao Mastani love track is being applauded and only in IF we are boiling our blood for nothing. I guess the only option we have is to watch this show till we can endure it and then quit for good.

well.. yes a balance btw his personal life and political life would have been too good to watch rather dn dis bizarre stuff of early entry of mastani dt luks all fake and forced to me... agree dt if it was focused on only political issues it would have been boredom since it would turn into a documentary... so balance was needed...but d cvs tripped and lost d balance and der brains too and result whch we all knw... d big blunder🥱nywys we can watch till we can bear later we all dt 1 option to quit d shw...and save ourselves from boiling d blood and raising our bp...
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Posted: 8 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: harshu27

well.. yes a balance btw his personal life and political life would have been too good to watch rather dn dis bizarre stuff of early entry of mastani dt luks all fake and forced to me... agree dt if it was focused on only political issues it would have been boredom since it would turn into a documentary... so balance was needed...but d cvs tripped and lost d balance and der brains too and result whch we all knw... d big blunder🥱nywys we can watch till we can bear later we all dt 1 option to quit d shw...and save ourselves from boiling d blood and raising our bp...


The pre-leap track was so good it set our expectations high and the fact that the young Baji-Kashi shared a good chemistry, we thought we may be treated for a pleasant bond between the two at least until Mastani makes an entry but makers were in a hurry to bring Mastani 😵 and the result is this half baked khichdi 🤢 I have no problem with makers showing Mastani as a strong woman. She might have been in real life else a warrior like Bajirao wouldn't have fallen so hard for her. But the blunder the CVs made here was to introduce Mastani right away to establish Bajirao's epic love story when Mastani should ideally be a toddler at this stage. And why should they malign Kashi for that and sidestep her? Thats y I am angry. Lets see for how long the makers will continue butchering it or will they do some damage control as well?
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Posted: 8 years ago
#33
They are continuing to show more of Baji and Mastani 'connection' and nothing on the Baji Kashi relationship.
I know the track centers on how he becomes the peshwa right now but so much of Mastani 😕.
She taking his name like he is someone special to her already.. And he totally disregarding Kashi forgetting that he has not made any attempt to establish any relationship with her..
I wonder how they will show Nana being born etc.. Hope that's accurate and not distorted as well!
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Posted: 8 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: harshu27

well.. yes a balance btw his personal life and political life would have been too good to watch rather dn dis bizarre stuff of early entry of mastani dt luks all fake and forced to me... agree dt if it was focused on only political issues it would have been boredom since it would turn into a documentary... so balance was needed...but d cvs tripped and lost d balance and der brains too and result whch we all knw... d big blunder🥱nywys we can watch till we can bear later we all dt 1 option to quit d shw...and save ourselves from boiling d blood and raising our bp...

This is exactly what happened to me when I saw the movie!
Baji Mastani affair was touted as some great love saga!
Though in that case, they actually showed how Kashi was wronged as Bajirao did have a very good relationship wth her!
But they at least maintained the dignity of the wife.
Somehow Mastani fails to move me... The one in the show and the way she is portrayed.. Not at all!
It is like she is the answer to the questions Baji has not even asked yet!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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@prettypri..Ditto! Bajirao-Mastani's love story is nothing to boast about cos breaking ur partners trust is not justifiable under any circumstance! Sadly CV's think otherwise.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: BeyondHorizon


The pre-leap track was so good it set our expectations high and the fact that the young Baji-Kashi shared a good chemistry, we thought we may be treated for a pleasant bond between the two at least until Mastani makes an entry but makers were in a hurry to bring Mastani 😵 and the result is this half baked khichdi 🤢 I have no problem with makers showing Mastani as a strong woman. She might have been in real life else a warrior like Bajirao wouldn't have fallen so hard for her. But the blunder the CVs made here was to introduce Mastani right away to establish Bajirao's epic love story when Mastani should ideally be a toddler at this stage. And why should they malign Kashi for that and sidestep her? Thats y I am angry. Lets see for how long the makers will continue butchering it or will they do some damage control as well?

ya mastani shwn as warrior princess no issues...but y to create so much of melodrama just to gain sympathy fr her... dts sickens me...🥱and still worst baji kashi relationship luks so superficial... no bonding btw dm..and yes she is been sidelined and maligned... only so to create buildup fr d future baji mastani luv saga🥱lets c wat d cvs do... i have v less hopes of redeeming d charctrs of kashi and baji i mean in terms of der relationship...😕
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Posted: 8 years ago
#37

Originally posted by: prettypri

This is exactly what happened to me when I saw the movie!
Baji Mastani affair was touted as some great love saga!
Though in that case, they actually showed how Kashi was wronged as Bajirao did have a very good relationship wth her!
But they at least maintained the dignity of the wife.
Somehow Mastani fails to move me... The one in the show and the way she is portrayed.. Not at all!
It is like she is the answer to the questions Baji has not even asked yet!

agree in d movie at least baji kashi relationship was good...both shared gd bonding... but here in d show dey have ruined it completely...🤢mastani portrayal was poor in d movie and here too its nothing grt either...
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I was trying to go through the post-leap episodes that I hadn't seen earlier...I was just skimming through them, watching certain key moments - and I noticed that the scenes I cared about were the ones with Balaji, Radhabai/Chimnaji/Bajirao, Chimnaji/Rakhmabai, Chimnaji/Bhiubai, and occasionally, Bajirao/Kashi.

I am on Twitter and I don't speak up much about PB now...I was appreciative of the show during the pre-leap phase because it resonated with me. It made me think deeply, even as I was gushing over certain scenes, and I loved watching those episodes from an analytical perspective. If I ever get around to watching the pre-leap episodes and reviewing them like I want to, I'll probably share that appreciation. I don't have the emotional connection or intellectual inclination to do that for these post-leap episodes. Whatever we are seeing now is like an entirely new show. I didn't sign up for this.

The quality of the writing and the presentation of the story in PB2 has become so dramatic. The blatant manner in which dialogues, foreshadowing, and reverb are being used to spell everything out, constantly...it is so off-putting to me. I fell in love with Peshwa Bajirao because it was presented simply and subtly, with strength in its performances and storytelling. PB1 had Vaibhav Mutha at the helm for a very long time, and his expertise showed in every shot with exceptional actors! He also had very capable successors to continue with the style of direction that he set up for the show. The writers put heart and soul and power into the characters, there was wisdom in the dialogues, and even the flaws of characters were given space to be exposed and rectified within the realm of the story.

Whatever is being shown in PB2, in terms of character portrayals and execution, is so drastically different from the high quality episodes in PB1. Change is fine. But the way the makers have gone about this leap makes me wonder if they even had time to plan out this phase of the story. Historical facts have been lost - and this is coming from a team that was detail-oriented and considerably careful about authenticity and creative liberty before. There is way, way too much "creative liberty" now. The balance in the show may have been skewed in certain ways before, but now it is completely gone. What makes things worse is that, capable actors or not, I can't understand Bajirao, I don't feel much for Kashi, and I really don't care about Mastani. The character sketches are just not compelling. The only characters I actually understand are Radhabai, Chimnaji, and Rakhmabai. As a viewer watching PB2, I feel like Bhiubai and Anubai - reminiscing fond memories of days gone by, wanting to return to simpler, happier times.

With Manishji's departure, amidst all this chaos, Rajeshwari and Saurabh are going to carry PB2 forward with power-packed performances, that I know for sure. I just wish the Bajirao/Kashibai relationship hadn't been distorted beyond the point of logic and recognition to make way for drama and a terribly cliched presentation of what is supposed to be an epic love story. Nope. Epic love, for me, is Balaji/Radhabai. That was a love story with significant depth and nuances. Their story has ended...but it will live on, eternal.

As much as I would have loved to see Manish/Anuja and Saurabh sharing screen space and delivering one knockout performance after another, after seeing the way this leap has unfolded, I am honestly relieved that Anuja and Manishji are free. Thank god for small mercies. Their Balaji/Radhabai flashbacks just serve as poignant reminders of how beautiful and insightful this show used to be.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: prettypri

They are continuing to show more of Baji and Mastani 'connection' and nothing on the Baji Kashi relationship.

I know the track centers on how he becomes the peshwa right now but so much of Mastani 😕.
She taking his name like he is someone special to her already.. And he totally disregarding Kashi forgetting that he has not made any attempt to establish any relationship with her..
I wonder how they will show Nana being born etc.. Hope that's accurate and not distorted as well!


Yes that connect is so annoying 🥱 Baji's disregard for Kashi is heartbreaking He will probably consummate his marriage in a compromising scenario 🤢 As in out of compromise. Either he will feel bad seeing how Kashi is disappointed in his lack of interest or he will be depressed about something else.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: prettypri

This is exactly what happened to me when I saw the movie!
Baji Mastani affair was touted as some great love saga!
Though in that case, they actually showed how Kashi was wronged as Bajirao did have a very good relationship wth her!
But they at least maintained the dignity of the wife.
Somehow Mastani fails to move me... The one in the show and the way she is portrayed.. Not at all!
It is like she is the answer to the questions Baji has not even asked yet!


Yes they maintained the dignity of a wife in the movie but I must say Mastani was shown in a very poor light. Kashi was wronged and though Bajirao never felt ashamed to accept his love before the world he felt guilty for breaking Kashi's trust. In the show I really cannot connect with her not coz of Megha. I really liked her in the few scenes I saw but I am disheartened with the way makers are showing Kashi to be a clingy wife. What happened to that fiery Kashi we saw in pre leap?

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