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Originally posted by: soniiyaa

Symbol of my love? What does that mean? Which love? She's said she loved shasank first and now Naren. This is talking in circles and without reason complicating and confusing the people in this situation. To the audience, this is clear - not to the character it seems still. Lets see how it unfolds.

The letter says Naren was always her love, so obviously she is referring to him as the father of her child. She also makes it clear she lied earlier- to sacrifice for Naren and Pari's love, as Naren didn't love her. When you read the letter as a whole and tie it up with past events, her past actions EVERYTHING makes sense.

She wrote it in a letter to her FATHER. It was a personal letter. She might have lied a lot of times before, it was obvious to everyone that she had perhaps been lying earlier, that is why they were confused right? But this was a confession letter and a personal one. Obviously it held more validity than a confession in front of so many people where she was obviously lying to hide things, as she had been doing it all along.

Plus she always maintained she loved shashank EARLIER. She sacrificed him such a long time back, I don't want to even get into that discussion of how perfectly wrong it was of them to think of it as I've written long posts on them already. She's never specifically referred to Shashank as the one she loved later, it was Pari and Naren who made it up in their heads. What she said at the wedding day is what she wrote in the letter too, explaining it better, that she loved Naren, but he is not the same Naren now- she clarified about whom she had spoken at the wedding day.

@Sugar_21: I've never said Ankita is any saner. She is stupid, no doubt. But that doesn't absolve Naren and Pari of their stupidity either. Savita and Sulochana who know Ankita so much less than Naren and Pari understood everything even without the letter, but Pari and Naren didn't. It took one un-encashed cheque and one incident of Ankita sitting in burning car + outburst at wedding for Archana to understand that Ankita was carrying NAren's baby. You say Ankita has confused Naren and Pari multiple times, they just need to look ONCE joining the dots from the sudden u-turn at Shekhar Pari's wedding to the final confession in the letter of why she sacrificed for Naren-Pari and it's so DAMN obvious- EVERYTHING makes sense then, right from her taking Naren's place in jail to sitting for him in a burning car and not encashing those cheques. Either they don't understand, or as Tanya di says and I suspect, Naren has understood but doesn't want to accept/show it. (Read Episode Discussion thread for that).

I rest my case. I've nothing more to argue. Beyond this, please treat it as a difference of opinion, and agree to disagree. And once more, I repeat- I'm NOT saying that Pari-Naren are responsible for this mess as they didn't understand. NO. That is NOT my point. The biggest credit of this mess goes to Ankita who hadn't expected her lies would end up making a whirlpool. I don't even blame them for Ankita;s condition as much as I blame Ankita herself. But, Naren and Pari are slow at comprehending, that is my only point. And they especially look slow at comprehending bcos pretty much everyone in the show knows the truth/guessed the truth except for these two people. The writers did a sucky job and Naren especially is looking like the biggest idiot.

Anyway, as I said, I can't explain it any more. Agree to disagree from here. :)

Nikita - yes agree to disagree.

But people have been confused abt Ankita not b/c shes lying but bc she keeps changing what shes lying about and changing up the lies each time - thus the confusion.

Could you really blame Naren and Pari for coming to the conclusion they did? People call it cheap but based upon what Ankita told them - Naren realized it couldnt be his and told Pari who went and told Mansi. Even Mansi believed them after she witnessed them lying to her first hand.

I'll leave it at that.

@ nikita :Well, mansi got that sick thought because it was planted there by sick gossipmongers. It did not come on its own. Then Mansi asked the question and got her answer and the issue got resolved. But the gossipmongers continued to gossip and even concluded that mansi- ankita- shashank were having an understanding where both sisters were apparently expecting the same man's child. Always concluding the gossip with "par hamen kya"!
Strange how they could come to conclude about Shashank even when no one said anything.
But the same people refuse to see and comprehend about Naren even after Ankitas letter. There they needed something direct. Why did they not excercise their brains like they did earlier? Or is it because the idea didnt suit their situation then. Talk of selective conclusions!
Need I say more?

I guess at the root of this all is the compulsive lying/hiding/covering in by all characters - the good, the bad, the ugly - in the PR land. As far as I can remember, I do not think any character in the 3 generations has been an exception (Ok, may be Sundari!).

Originally posted by: ptecvish

@ nikita :Well, mansi got that sick thought because it was planted there by sick gossipmongers. It did not come on its own. Then Mansi asked the question and got her answer and the issue got resolved. But the gossipmongers continued to gossip and even concluded that mansi- ankita- shashank were having an understanding where both sisters were apparently expecting the same man's child. Always concluding the gossip with "par hamen kya"!
Strange how they could come to conclude about Shashank even when no one said anything.
But the same people refuse to see and comprehend about Naren even after Ankitas letter. There they needed something direct. Why did they not excercise their brains like they did earlier? Or is it because the idea didnt suit their situation then. Talk of selective conclusions!
Need I say more?

True. When she says she once loved shashank, everyone assumes the baby to be shashanks. Even though she said she only loved him once.
Yet when she says she loves naren and still does, they ignore that sentence and assume the baby must belong to some stranger who they've never seen or heard about before!

Both times she didn't give a direct answer, I mean she never directly told anyone that the baby was shashanks, yet people believed that without a doubt, the baby MUST be shashanks.

So why don't they come to the same conclusion that the baby MUST be naren's?
It's like the guilty until charged thing.
She got pregnant whilst married to naren, when she spent her entire time with him, so they should believe without a doubt that the baby belongs to naren UNTIL the DNA report can prove otherwise.
After all if she was spending every minute with naren trying to make him better, where would she have found the time to fall in love with someone?

Originally posted by: ambolove

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True. When she says she once loved shashank, everyone assumes the baby to be shashanks. Even though she said she only loved him once.
Yet when she says she loves naren and still does, they ignore that sentence and assume the baby must belong to some stranger who they've never seen or heard about before!

Both times she didn't give a direct answer, I mean she never directly told anyone that the baby was shashanks, yet people believed that without a doubt, the baby MUST be shashanks.

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Originally posted by: Tanyaz

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thats a very good point ...

That Shashank thing was immediately picked up , interpreted and the word was spread around to make sure that Narens name is safe ..

But when Ankita clearly says , I love Naren , will only love Naren ...and the child is the symbol of my love then they look the other way and say , Nope , baby cannot be Narens 😆

and Pari tells her grand mothers , I told Ankita , if the baby is Narens then I wil lleave but if it is not then you please leave ...and she left ( clearly implying that Ankita left as baby was not Narens ) ..

Now I saw this scene twice. This is not what happened ...Ankita left because she said that me and my baby will never come in your and Narens way ...Now if the baby was not Narens then why would she say this and leave ...

<div>Pari and Naren are deciding how to interpret things ...but they dare not be questioned ..After all, bade login ki badi batein ...

That thing about ankita leaving the city because baby is not naren's came out of nowhere.
They did not even have this conversation! I was shocked.

I guess pavitra rishta wants to be portrayed as 'misunderstanding rishta' because these people have some serious conversational misunderstanding issues.

They do not know how to communicate, they do not know how to take a hint and they can't seem to see what's right in front of them!

Originally posted by: Sugar_21

Nikita, the fact of the matter is that Ankita has changed her statement so many times. Its confusing to understand what she wants or what she means to say. I know that, us viewers, can understand because we see the complete picture. However, from an individual character's point of view who is surviving in this mess of a story, they need to be told clearly because Ankita has lied too many times.

Initially, Pari was was told by Ankita that she loved her husband who turned out to be Naren.

Pari was later convinced that Naren and Ankita are meant to be and she blatantly ignored Naren for her.

When Pari decided to marry Shekhar for the sake of Ankita and her loved, Ankita came in and told her that Shashank is her first love and that she can never forget him and that she has never loved Naren.

Then the entire "is Shashank the father" fiasco...I'm not going to outright blame Ankita here but you have to agree that she only revealed who the father was when things got out of hand in front of Mansi.

Then on the wedding day, she cooked up another story that she had met a guy who she loved and cared and that it is his baby.

Then Pari went to her on the wedding day, she didn't clear it off then either, this despite Pari begging/ imploring her.

And now the letter in which she stated she loves Naren but the child is only hers.

How many times will Ankita change her statement and confuse others? Why can't she say one simple thing "yes, Naren is the father" Why didn't she correct Naren when he said I'm not the father at the railway station" Why doesn't she ever speak up? Actually, she only speaks up to give ambiguous statements and sometimes to tell stupid lies that will cause much confusion. Moreover, why is the onus on others to interpret Ankita's ambiguous statements in positive light? Don't others have a life to get on with?

The fact is she doesn't want her right so why should others be blamed and bothered. I know Naren is a jerk but the fact is she is only and only thinking about Naren and ignoring everyone who really wants to help her.

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Originally posted by: ambolove

True. When she says she once loved shashank, everyone assumes the baby to be shashanks. Even though she said she only loved him once.
Yet when she says she loves naren and still does, they ignore that sentence and assume the baby must belong to some stranger who they've never seen or heard about before!

Both times she didn't give a direct answer, I mean she never directly told anyone that the baby was shashanks, yet people believed that without a doubt, the baby MUST be shashanks.

So why don't they come to the same conclusion that the baby MUST be naren's?
It's like the guilty until charged thing.
She got pregnant whilst married to naren, when she spent her entire time with him, so they should believe without a doubt that the baby belongs to naren UNTIL the DNA report can prove otherwise.
After all if she was spending every minute with naren trying to make him better, where would she have found the time to fall in love with someone?

hi ambolove, hope u dont mind me quoting u. i respect ur opinion completely but theres some things i guess i disagree on.😊 I wud say the reason people assumed the baby to be shashanks was because Ankita told Pari firmly that she loved Shashank first and when the pregnancy news came out to Pari she probably thought it was shashanks since that was who ankita loved(according to Pari, ankita did not love naren) Since ankita lied to Naren and Pari, they probably assumed that the baby belongs to shashank only, she did not give a direct answer. Ankita made it clear in the letter that she loves Naren but she shud have directly said in the letter that my baby belongs to Naren, Naren cud not deny it if she said that but she made it sound too complicated in her letter and neither did she correct Naren at the train station when Naren clearly said that the baby Ankita's carrying is not his, instead she started lecturing him so much like as if shes done so much for him and trying to make him sound like a selfish person, Naren was only trying to help out Ankita if she needed but she rudely declined it, if she had come out clear about the fact that the baby she was carrying is Naren's, the confusion wud not have occurred. She has never clearly said that the baby is Naren's so Naren and Pari are going to be confused about it and they wont think the baby is Naren's since Ankita didnt directly tell them.

I earlier posted regarding the writing of script in which all characters are shown to lie for various reasons.