Ekta Kapoor is Pro-Life and Anti-Abortion - DT note pg7

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Laila Banu

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Originally posted by: nikki1591

And once again u don't know what I have and haven't been thru. And understand rape completely. It is so ignorant that just bc I disagree w ur beliefs u assume that I don't understand rape. Guess what u don't understand it better than I do just cuz ur pr abortion. Keep advocating for the tearing of a child limbs. I won't. And honey if Iam intolerant of choice. Then u r intolerant of others views

no, i am pro-choice...choice which you do not wish to offer other women and therein lies the difference...for you the priority and focus is a potential child and not the welfare of the rape victim or their emotional status...that shows a lot of intolerance and lack of compassion and empathy.

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Laila Banu

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Originally posted by: Rozy_02
I am against abortion in every case besides rape. personally, I would not want any reminder of the rapist hence I would never give birth to the child. I agree with nikki on the horrors of abortion;tearing of skull, crushing of bones, etc which is very painful to even think about but rape is the one instance when it I think that it is justified to abort the child. In every other instance i am against abortion.

All this depends on the stage of the abortion and what is the status of the fetus...a lot of individuals who are anti-abortion are often brainwashed with a lot of assumptions of what is really going on...so what you are saying is that only in the case of an abortion would you give a woman a choice and under no other circumstance would you want laws to permit it otherwise? Opinions are one thing and what we chose to do for ourselves is also another, but when we start imposing these on others that is wrong..to force women to carry a child against their will is just as bad as making them have an abortion if they don't want too...how is deciding what happens to a woman based upon your own person viewpoints acceptable? Like I said, holding a view is YOUR right, doing what you want is YOUR right but to impose it on all other women as if you viewpoints are right...that's wrong and that is what i am trying to point out.

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Gagori Chatterjee

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Plss avoid personal attacks of any form , that is questioning another person's POV sarcastically ... Everyone is free to put their respective POVs and one can debate it out sportingly as well without questioning another person's POV ... a simple line of "I respect your POV but disagree with it for so and so reason" is enough for a debate instead of questioning each other with a sarcastic tone

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Jasmine

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Posted: 11 years ago

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There was an anti abortion class in our coll where they showed abortion video.its a complete murder n cruelty.if anyone watches that video they will not do abortion.What is the fault of that innocent baby?>the baby doesn't deserve life just bcz d father is a rapist?If the child reminds of rape dump the child in d orphanage.

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xxxnm

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Originally posted by: Laila2009

no, i am pro-choice...choice which you do not wish to offer other women and therein lies the difference...for you the priority and focus is a potential child and not the welfare of the rape victim or their emotional status...that shows a lot of intolerance and lack of compassion and empathy.

and you lack compassion and sympethy for the child that is going to be killed

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Rozy_02

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Originally posted by: Laila2009

All this depends on the stage of the abortion and what is the status of the fetus...a lot of individuals who are anti-abortion are often brainwashed with a lot of assumptions of what is really going on...so what you are saying is that only in the case of an abortion would you give a woman a choice and under no other circumstance would you want laws to permit it otherwise? Opinions are one thing and what we chose to do for ourselves is also another, but when we start imposing these on others that is wrong..to force women to carry a child against their will is just as bad as making them have an abortion if they don't want too...how is deciding what happens to a woman based upon your own person viewpoints acceptable? Like I said, holding a view is YOUR right, doing what you want is YOUR right but to impose it on all other women as if you viewpoints are right...that's wrong and that is what i am trying to point out.

You know what laila. You are too forceful. This is a discussion forum. Allow us to have our views ok. There's no need for you to counter every opinion of ours. I may agree with some points of yours and I may agree with some points of another persona. It is my right and you don't have a right to be sarcastic about our views. You are pro abortion so that is your view. I don't have any intention of countering or questioning your view. Nikki and a few others are against abortion; so be it. There's no need for you to try to prove their views as wrong. Remember honey, not all five fingers are the same. Allow a difference of opinion and respect it. As for your view on a woman should be given a choice and we shouldn't allow our viewpoint to impose on other women having a child they don't want to then I think that that woman or women as you put it should be strong enough to oppose it if they don't want the child. I'm not here to decide for the women of the world and I don't think you are either. Look at it this way.not many women are going to come to you to ask you if they should have an abortion. It's their body, their child. It's our views and our advice. And remember advice is optional. You have a choice to take it.

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Rozy_02

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Posted: 11 years ago

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And yes, what I was saying earlier is that I think that only in a rape case should you have a choice to abort the child and not in any other circumstance. That is my view and I don't think that there should be laws to allow a choice for abortion in any other case except for rape. This is my opinion and I don't see why you are questioning it. One more thing, I don't remember 'imposing' it on any "other women" as you put it. And there's no need for you to "try to point out" my opinion as wrong because what's right for me may be wrong for you and vice versa.

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Jasmine

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Posted: 11 years ago

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whether its rape or anything else abortion is cruelty towards babies.no one wud try 2 abort their own baby if they watch abortion process.poor babies.God produces them to let them live,not 2 b killed by their own mother

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rohini55

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Posted: 11 years ago

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@Laila

I'm with you on this. Ekta is queen of regressive soap.

Her heroes and heroines will be shown using the latest laptop and mobile gadgets but she will not bother to constructively show any advancement in medical science. Except when it comes to her own version of state-of-the art plastic surgery whereby a human being can be completely altered.

In one case she will be ahead of scientific advances and in the other she will be completely behind.

It is the same old story in serial after EK serial: rape and pregnancy. Pregnancy does not have to follow rape if the morning after pill is taken within 72 hours. That is a long time in which a girl can think of possible repercussions, including HIV these days.

But no, the EK heroine is innocence personified She will not even think that pregnancy is a possible outcome of sexual intercourse.

And when she does get pregnant, she will not even for a moment suspect that it could be the rapist's child. An outsider has to taunt her. for her to be duly shocked

Of course, all EK heroines get pregnant the very first time they have had intercourse, and more so if they are unmarried or have been taken against their will.

Bollywood is experimenting so much. Ekta has turned the clock back on TV soaps with a vengeance.

The other thing I hate is stripping cultures of their diversity. Every EK heroine, from J&K to Kanyakumari, from Gujarat to West Bengal will wear the sindoor and the trademark mile-long mangalsutra ( which is not the custom in many regions of India).

Talking of the morning after pill, does conception not happen at the time of coitus? If so, the pill does destroy life -- if the argument is that life starts at conception.

I'm not a medical student but it beats my understanding that conception happens after intercourse (how?), so the pill is a contraceptive that prevents conception.

I'm willing to be educated on this.

I wonder if people here condone children born of incest. Because the same argument -- that a foetus is human -- applies here.

People keep talking about the right of the child. If I were a child born of rape or worse of incest, I would hate myself and my mother. Why is my opinion and whether I want to come into this world in these circumstances, not taken as relevant?

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Laila Banu

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Originally posted by: jasminerahul
There was an anti abortion class in our coll where they showed abortion video.its a complete murder n cruelty.if anyone watches that video they will not do abortion.What is the fault of that innocent baby?>the baby doesn't deserve life just bcz d father is a rapist?If the child reminds of rape dump the child in d orphanage.

Again, naturally the goal of an anti-abortion movement is to discourage you with horrific images of what happens during an abortion. The goal is to terrify the individual. Most are lead by religious and conservative movements. But here is my argument; what is the fault of the woman that she should be forced to give birth and carry the the child for 9 months and know that there is always going to be a physical reminder of her rape. The abortion can take place as early as possible and that's what could have been shown on this show. As I see it, dumping a child in an orphanage if it reminds you of rape is abandoning the child as well.

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