Friendship !! W Pg.6 - Page 2

Originally posted by: naava

These posts are way too long and involved to try to respond to a few points i wanted to comment on

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..so let me just mention a couple of them

@ muaaz as TM : I think you are right. I think Ovi's friendship is arbitrary, often for her own benefit. But there are very few truly sacrificial people in the world so she's no different on that point. Ovi was always very immature and independent at the same time. She never really was close to anyone in an enduring way. I think she was the worst damaged by the ArMan years of separation. She never really connected with anyone at a deep level for very long. She had moments of closeness then by her own actions cut them off. She was far then close then far to Archana. Back and forth. It's unfair to say that Archana nor Manav didn't care about her . They did very much. But Ovi herself kept them at arm's length when she wanted to. I remember many scenes where Archana was holding Ovi in her arms. Loving her, comforting her. It was pretty much Ovi who said, I will do my own thing. From the beginning.

I think it made no sense for her to hide Pia after the Arvi marriage. I don't think it had to do with Purvi or Arjun at all, more likely she wasn't sure if she really wanted the baby.. That whole thing was screwy and perhaps an added after the fact by the CV's .. Most appalling to me was that Ovi just left this little premature baby alone for 2-3 months. Her baby is hovering between life and death and she is shopping and cavorting about in India? I still haven't gotten over that one. More shocking to me than drinking when pregnant. I mean now the baby was visible in front of her. She lost one baby, wouldn't one think she would move heaven and earth to be by her side, to touch her, to hover over her in love??. I think it was only after she learned that Purvi was pregnant that she remembered oh wait i have a baby in an incubator somewhere in Canada. So out of jealousy she decided she wanted finally to mother this baby.

But the topic is friendship. Ovi probably doesn't understand either friendship or attachment..which makes her actions unpredictable..and dysfunctional...

which makes her no different than all the rest of the characters in PR>

I guess i'll stop now as my post is getting too long too !! 😆

Originally posted by: naava

These posts are way too long and involved to try to respond to a few points i wanted to comment on

😆😆

..so let me just mention a couple of them

@ muaaz as TM : I think you are right. I think Ovi's friendship is arbitrary, often for her own benefit. But there are very few truly sacrificial people in the world so she's no different on that point. Ovi was always very immature and independent at the same time. She never really was close to anyone in an enduring way. I think she was the worst damaged by the ArMan years of separation. She never really connected with anyone at a deep level for very long. She had moments of closeness then by her own actions cut them off. She was far then close then far to Archana. Back and forth. It's unfair to say that Archana nor Manav didn't care about her . They did very much. But Ovi herself kept them at arm's length when she wanted to. I remember many scenes where Archana was holding Ovi in her arms. Loving her, comforting her. It was pretty much Ovi who said, I will do my own thing. From the beginning.

I think it made no sense for her to hide Pia after the Arvi marriage. I don't think it had to do with Purvi or Arjun at all, more likely she wasn't sure if she really wanted the baby.. That whole thing was screwy and perhaps an added after the fact by the CV's .. Most appalling to me was that Ovi just left this little premature baby alone for 2-3 months. Her baby is hovering between life and death and she is shopping and cavorting about in India? I still haven't gotten over that one. More shocking to me than drinking when pregnant. I mean now the baby was visible in front of her. She lost one baby, wouldn't one think she would move heaven and earth to be by her side, to touch her, to hover over her in love??. I think it was only after she learned that Purvi was pregnant that she remembered oh wait i have a baby in an incubator somewhere in Canada. So out of jealousy she decided she wanted finally to mother this baby.

But the topic is friendship. Ovi probably doesn't understand either friendship or attachment..which makes her actions unpredictable..and dysfunctional...

which makes her no different than all the rest of the characters in PR>

I guess i'll stop now as my post is getting too long too !! 😆

Originally posted by: MayurSidma

My post for friendship and they both are not good friend not even friend.

ovi doing everything for sake of Arjun's best friend & happiness.

JOKE OF THE CENTURY.😆

This is not any example of best friend job. This is totally insult of any kind friendship.

Why ARVI separate to each other? If ARVI responsible this then also responsible ovi also. Only ovi is create this mess. If ovi clear everything very first time then no misunderstand between ARVI.

Another thing ovi is too much dirty play that why not only suffer ARVI but also suffer her family also. Other wise her icon Manav Baba & savita Tai never kick out their queen this way.

Manav Baba & Savita Tai action say everything who are blame whole messing of ARVI life. But still ovi has no sense. Arjun has been suffer but continue she lie to Purvi. People say ovi doing for her friend sake. My question what type of friend ovi that only she messing ARVI life.

When her best friend clearly told that he never love but still she blackmail Purvi & forced to married with Arjun. When her best friend try to solved problem with ovi she not agree. But she divorce to Arjun. Later what happen all r blame goes to no other then ovi. If really ovi not any responsible she clear everything. But what she do. She enjoy her friend suffer last 20 years.

That why I say this ovi is never good daughter, never good friend, never good wife, never good mother, never good daughter-in-law.

Originally posted by: pallavi25

Exactly! If she was such a great friend to Arjun, why didnt she see he was suffering for 20 yrs? Why didnt she tell the truth to everyone involved and end his suffering?

Like I said, she couldnt tell the truth to relieve her friend's suffering but now shes telling lies to send the love of his life away!

Originally posted by: Perfangel5655

At this point I feel like I missed something because the written updates did not cover it. They have shown how Ovi didn't bother to tell Manav, Archana and Purvi the truth about Pia after Purvi found out? Because I wasn't aware of it. Because from the way you keep mentioning it I am picturing a scene that went like this

Archana Manav: How did this happen? You are having a secret relationship with Arjun, a married man?

Ovi: *silence*

Archana and Manav: We are done with you and never want to see your face again

Ovi: *silence* *shrugs her shoulders and walks away rolling her eyes*

If I missed this scene above please tell me which date's episode I need to watch it.

Arjun and Purvi's separation was on Arjun and Purvi. After Ovi cleaned up her mess she divorced Arjun, a divorce that Arjun and Purvi were against, Ovi was no longer obligated to do anything for them. She did not need to beg Purvi to listen to her. Purvi should've known better to listen her so called "love" Arjun. Ovi didn't do anything wrong. And even if she did, compared to the others' mistake it is very small.

As for not telling Archana and Manav the truth about Pia, yes she honestly should have. That would've been much more realistic. But realistic things are never shown on PR. So let's back up for a moment and think about everything that was taking place around Arjun and Purvi's wedding...Onir's case, Manav's health issues where they didn't want to tell him ANYTHING that might disturb him, Soham's issues one after another. The whole Soham/Sachin/Gauri drama, Manav/DK issues. These are only few of the things...

Ovi shouldn't lie for Arjun!! But again this is NONE OF HER BUSINESS. Arjun and Purvi are adults and they should know how to handle their own shit. She is not Purvi or Archana who feels the burden of the world on her. She already forced Arjun once for what she thought was best for him. She doesn't need to force him again. As a friend, she already told him what she thinks is right and if he doesn't want to hear it then it is on him.

Now to the topic maker, Ovi is a friend to Arjun the same way Manav & Archana are parents to their kids, Purvi is a lover and wife to her husband(s) and mother to her daughter, Teju, Soham and Sachin are siblings to each other, Arjun a father to his daughters. This show doesn't show perfect (let's just say normal) relationships. They are all very flawed. Ovi was shown as a immature character and that's why her character growth means something today. Even if she did not understand their relationship properly she has always been Arjun's friend, infact if you think about it then she has been the only constant person his whole life who has never left him on his own. She always comes back when he calls for her. Even in the last episode she didn't want to come, she now has a life away from Arjun and she also disagreed with him on the matter. But she is the only person he could rely on and she came when he asked for her.

You can go into their whole marriage and ask why did she marry him knowing he loved another girl if she was his friend...and the answer is she didn't. She questioned their love over and over again and felt what she had with Arjun, the years of friendship was much stronger. She was clearly out of her mind and ill to a point where Arjun didn't even want to explain this to her properly and he almost let her be the way she wanted to be. Even after the wedding I was so surprised to see that he wasn't bitter and angry at her for forcing the marriage on him. Ovi was suicidal, depressed. She should've received medical help.

During the marriage Ovi kept throwing tantrums. She is like a child and it was her cry for help. When she started trusting Arjun's affections her tantrums stopped. She did have a hard time trusting Arjun, but now after everything I think it is safe to say she trusted Arjun way more than his ladylove trusted him. His ladylove wasn't even betrayed by him the way Ovi was.

So yes the friendship is not perfect. It is messed up but it is probably better than most of the relationships in the show.

It is a friendship that made Arjun want to marry Ovi on the first place before he came to India. It is a friendship that made Arjun want to put up with all of Ovi's tantrums. It is a friendship that the parents had faith on and that's why they did not think it was the end of the world when these two ended up married together. It is also this friendship that made Ovi respond to Arjun's call when he was begging her after she left finding out the truth about Pari. It is the same friendship that let them stay in touch for 20 years and the same one that made her return to this mess.

Originally posted by: pallavi25

Do u watch the show or just read updates? If u only read updates then u surely missed somethings. Like Archana Manav saying they have no idea where Ovi lived.

its clear they were not interest in ovi live or dead then why ovi will be force herself to them

We are discussing here abt why Ovi didnt tell her parents abt Pia even after ArVi were married. She had 2 months time during which she could have easily told them.

Manav was sick, but Archu wasnt, Savita or Teju werent sick.

first she wanted to tell the truth to arjun but in depression stage she saw purvi very close to arjun in her absence and arjun want purvi in his life back and she couldnot tell the truth bcz of heartbroken...which woman can be tolerate when she will be saw her sister\ ex lover of husband with her husband in her bedroom and always they r try to close even after marriage ( when herself her sister clearify her she broke relationship with her husband but in reality she could not) and she thought she should hide about this and after marriage she could not tell due to manav accident and soham's case...bcz doctor told manav should away from disturbance and suddenly came soham incident ...sachin wedding also happened in that time where her family try to be happy so how she would be tell about her problem and will be snatch a small happy moment from her family...

Besides, during that time the family was planning Sachin's wedding so its not as if they were all down in the dumps and couldnt have been burdened with Pia's truth! Ovi not telling Archu or Savita or Teju abt Pia just doesnt make sense! Period!bcz doctor told manav should away from disturbance and suddenly came soham incident ...sachin wedding also happened in that time where her family try to be happy so how she would be tell about her problem and will be snatch a small happy moment from her family...

As for later, why didnt she want to clear up the misunderstandings with her parents? Didnt she care abt the happiness of her so-called Friend, Arjun then? Or didnt she want him to be reunited with Purvi again?😉

arvi marriage problem is not her, its their responsibility. and when purvi did not listen about arjun then how could u believe she could listen ovi...and all D clan just blindly fallow purvi's word and believe arjun and ovi were wrong without investigation they broke up all relationship with ovi then why ovi will be fallow her family...it seems manav and savita were blind bcz at that time purvi was there need for business if they will be questioned purvi and did not fallow purvi and purvi left them then there business will be affect...

Because just one clarification from her to ArMaan, saying, ".I dont live with Arjun, hes not involved with me" ...would have cleared the path for Arjun's happiness. Didnt she care abt her "friend" then? That he was living alone for 20 long years? But now shes back in a jiffy to help him drive away Purvi again! 😆

itself arman told that when learn about pia from purvi without investigation all they broke relationship with ovi...then may be ovi try to contact but they disconnect her phone and mail

Before this, the same Ovi could fly all the way to India, leaving her premature sick baby in a Canadian hospital...just to clear Onir's name and also do jasoosi abt his marital status! But she couldnt go to ArMaan's house in the same country where she was living and tell them the truth?

ovi left her baby incubator in propercare in a best hospital and she ran to India as a humanity to help onir...when she knew only one person onir try to understand her problem and her friend and due to canada medical society she helped onir ...when onir's so called wife purvi left humanity for her personal angry on onir when she knew onir was innocent and he felt down for her and onir is the man who helped her in every situation in past and its ovi who forced to purvi to come court when she herself suffered for onir.

Actually like many other posters said above, Ovi could never be a good friend, a good wife or a good daughter!

yes in first stage she was just a baribee doll and nothing but a emotionally challenged girl and attention seeker girl but all r saw her how she try to improve herself and how she became mature ...its a very good point of ovi ( where some character always repeated their mistake but ovi learned lesson from her mistake)

BTW, Arjun didnt want to marry Ovi at all in the first place, he had clearly announced in front of whole family that he didnt love her, didnt want to marry her...but Ovi was so desperate to get him by hook or crook, she manipulated him into agreeing to the wedding!

Then later of course she blackmailed Purvi and forced Arjun to marry her, he HATED Ovi initially because of it! But later on he just gave up and accepted his sad fate of being married to a jealous, obsessive and abusive wife!

for deal all r responsible equally not ovi alone...ovi was in depression and gone through mental problem after break up with arjun but no one gave her time and she was manipulated by punni ...but what happened to purvi when she has other option but choose d ovi's deal and forced to arjun and what happened to all other family member's who silently accept this deal...

at least in deal ovi was straightforward and told everyone about deal but why purvi hide her physical relationship with arjun to ovi and others , if she could tell then may be ovi did not accept arjun but she kept quite every time so that no one questioned her and her pure image will be stay infront of others and she put all life in hell...

Originally posted by: Ashi22

If Arjun and Ovi are good friend than I am Madhuri Dixit

Originally posted by: Ashi22

If Arjun and Ovi are good friend than I am Madhuri Dixit