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Posted: 11 years ago
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Even when couples separate, they do not cease to be parents! And the courts recognise their rights to be parents, sometimes even when they have criminal backgrounds!
When a couple separates, they usually work out some kind of an agreement in terms of child sharing, even if not custody, access cannot be completely denied. How is it that in Ekta's shows, parents don't recognise their children simply because they got separated or divorced from their partners? What sens does that make?

If Purvi and Arjun are legally separated, how does he cease to have any kind of parental right over Pari? Are we assuming that a man who is so much in love with his daughter will walk away from her over a silly misunderstanding with her mother! That he would never try to even see her again!


Arjun could have sued Ovi over concealing facts about Pia just as he can sue Purvi for custody or at least access! This is not an argument about right and wrong, purely about a legal standpoint!

I know Ekta loves dysfunctional families but of late, she seems to be taking them to whole new heights!

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: miklyway

are u really sure about the part which i have underlined ? lolll !! when did arjun really love pari "so much" ? i would really like to know.
as far as i remember arjun gave pari to onir purvi so that he can lure ovi to stay back and have sex with her !! he was repeatedly saying that day that i have even given away pari , so now please stay back. did ovi ever tell him that she has a problem with pari or that he should remove her from his house ? arjun did all that on his own. if arjun would had really loved pari then he would had firmly kept her with him and try to find some other alternative to make ovi stay back. he simply gave her away to a poor onir who was not even financially stable all thanks to darling purvi. by giving pari to onir he increased onir's financial burden and moreover he played with his own daughter's future. he didnt care about all those things because the foremost important thing for him was to make ovi stay back and have sex with her.



You are welcome to your pov...I have no sympathy for any character on this show...but I do not have a pathological hatred either...so my views remain mine!

I have no respect for a man who gives up his child to save his marriage...but that does not imply that he does not love his child...it only means that he is trying to do the right thing by Ovi...because he feels he has committed a greater wrong by her or whatever...probably he thought once her anger cooled down, he would be able to move for access at least...so, I don't think every action of his can be boiled down to a desire for sex...but if that is the way you see it, that is your choice!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: miklyway

seriously ??? he didnt tell ovi to stay back because he thought that he had wronged her more. if thats the case then he should had apologised to her for the accident and for the death of her child. when arjun was under impression that the still born is punir baby then he was roaming around with a maatam and sada hua thobda and he was blaming himself since he thought that because of his driving his darling purvi had to loose her child. that time he never had the happiness for his own pari as she was arovi child that time. he was much more bothered about punir child.
once he came to know that pari is arvi child then immediately all his matam and sadness disappeared. then why didnt he go to ovi and blame himself for the loss of arovi child ?
and the main thing is that ovi herself never told him or kept a deal in front of him to throw out pari. that day manav was yelling and yelling on him and abusing him left right and centre. he was only pathetically repeating his dialogue that i have given away pari so atleast now stay with me.
while having sex with ovi he considered it as his right since he was her husband. then while marrying purvi he said that ovi and he were just friends. which man has sex with his "just friend" female ?


She was his wife...and couples do have sex even if they are not in love,..particularly when they are trying to reconcile..

Anyway, whether Arjun's character is not the point of this debate...i have not given him a character certificate here...so, why are we discussing his relationship with Ovi and Ovi's dead child here...the post is about right of access to a child when the parents have separated...irrespective of how good or bad people are...this is about the law...


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Posted: 11 years ago
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lol u try to bring law in PR land 🤣
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Does law even exist in PR?
Varsha who had kidnapped Soham for around 20 years goes to jail for a year? Soham goes to jail for only 6 months for all his kidnappings and other criminals acts? In a tape that implicates both Onir and Purvi for baby swap, why is only Onir punished and not Purvi? So many questions.

Arjun could have sued both girls for keeping his daughters a secret from him. Since Arjun wanted to be a part of Pari's life, he can sue Purvi for keeping his daughter away from him. He could also sue for brainwashing Pari against him to gain custody.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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I agree with ur logic, sharadrocks!
Arjun could have demanded joint custody of Pari. He could have visited her multiple times during last 20 yrs especially when she was still a kid. Then she would have good memories and relationship with him instead of hatred in her heart for an absentee father!
Why didnt he ever visit her? Neither Purvi nor ArMaan could have stopped him from seeing his daughter if he really wanted to! And if they tried to stop him, then he could go to the courts for visitation rights!
Ekta and CVs are so ridiculous! In Archu's case, it could be digested as she didnt have the money, resouces, visa etc to go to Canada to see her kids.
But Arjun has loads of money, hes flying to Canada all the time, hes probably a Canadian citizen! Yet he never visited his daughter in last 20 yrs? 😲
I dont know if hes staying away from Purvi because he feels guilty for what happened, but why neglect his own child?
In these Ekta serials, they show that when a person goes abroad, he/she loses all contact with India and the relatives there...I dont know which century Ekta is living in...😆
In the age of skype, facebook, messaging, etc...people lose contact with each other when they go abroad?😆
Archu is missing her Mumbai chawl...why doesnt she visit? Dont NRIs visit their homeland every so often? So ABSURD and UNREAL! 😆

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: MayurSidma

Does law even exist in PR?

Varsha who had kidnapped Soham for around 20 years goes to jail for a year?Soham goes to jail for only 6 months for all his kidnappings and other criminals acts? In a tape that implicates both Onir and Purvi for baby swap, why is only Onir punished and not Purvi? So many questions.

Arjun could have sued both girls for keeping his daughters a secret from him. Since Arjun wanted to be a part of Pari's life, he can sue Purvi for keeping his daughter away from him. He could also sue for brainwashing Pari against him to gain custody.




You are right, there is no law or logic in PR land. While Arjun could have sued for at least partial custody or visitation rights, he couldn't have sued for brainwashing Pari. Now, it is too late, as Pari is 18.

Also, Arjun was shown as a doting father so it is inconceivable that he made no attempt to get in touch with his child even once in 20 years. And if Purvi has been asking Pari to contact her dad, if Arjun himself had initiated contact with his child, I am assuming Purvi would not have stopped him. But then again, there is no logic in this show.

Which man would sit idly for 20 years without making an attempt to explain or set right a misunderstanding if he truly loved his wife and child? Same thing was said of Manav, 18 years he loved Archana without being concerned about her financial or personal well-being, but despite that, he had pavitra prem for his wife. Arjun, at least, knows Pari is not lacking financially.

Also, which parent would cut off relations with their daughter before making a mental calculation as to when their grand baby, Pia was conceived. Silliest of reasons.

As for Soham, how did he manage to father that many kids? With Gauri? Did she suffer from amnesia and therefore live happily with Soham as his wife? Is that why she didn't/couldn't work (cos of said amnesia) as a doctorini and bring better food to the table? Did she suddenly get her senses back and die? reason for his now drunkenness? he would have been the epitome of virtue with her around; plus if she were in her senses, he couldn't have kept her locked for that long.

What a sorry tale this.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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This is a ridiculous show but we still watch it for the actors! The CVs and writers suck at their job but the actors and actresses pull it through!
The CVs probably wont bother to answer most of our questions regarding the last 20 yrs, like why didnt Arjun try to sort out the misunderstandings?
He doesnt have to go to Purvi and constantly repeat, Meri baat toh suno...but he can email, text, message her abt what happened!
ArMaan let them separate and didnt try to find out what actually happened? They shd be the first ones to intervene as they stayed away from each other for 18 yrs! I would expect them to try and save Purvi's marriage or at least try to find out the truth! They didnt try to find out abt Ovi and Pia either?
No, they are too busy romancing in old age! 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Lol, the actors are all good, feel sorry for them at times to be stuck in this rut but then remember it is just a job for them :)
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Originally posted by: soapwatcher1



You are right, there is no law or logic in PR land. While Arjun could have sued for at least partial custody or visitation rights, he couldn't have sued for brainwashing Pari. Now, it is too late, as Pari is 18.

Also, Arjun was shown as a doting father so it is inconceivable that he made no attempt to get in touch with his child even once in 20 years. And if Purvi has been asking Pari to contact her dad, if Arjun himself had initiated contact with his child, I am assuming Purvi would not have stopped him. But then again, there is no logic in this show.

Which man would sit idly for 20 years without making an attempt to explain or set right a misunderstanding if he truly loved his wife and child? Same thing was said of Manav, 18 years he loved Archana without being concerned about her financial or personal well-being, but despite that, he had pavitra prem for his wife. Arjun, at least, knows Pari is not lacking financially.

Also, which parent would cut off relations with their daughter before making a mental calculation as to when their grand baby, Pia was conceived. Silliest of reasons.

As for Soham, how did he manage to father that many kids? With Gauri? Did she suffer from amnesia and therefore live happily with Soham as his wife? Is that why she didn't/couldn't work (cos of said amnesia) as a doctorini and bring better food to the table? Did she suddenly get her senses back and die? reason for his now drunkenness? he would have been the epitome of virtue with her around; plus if she were in her senses, he couldn't have kept her locked for that long.

What a sorry tale this.


Yes, Arjun can't sue for brainwashing now since Pari isn't a minor anymore, but why didn't he in the last 20 years if he was wrongfully kept away from the kid he loved? This show is ridiculous. I am also wondering who is the one that filled all this negativity against Arjun in Pari's head. She doesn't seem to know her dad was supposed to marry Ovi first, that he ended up marrying her due to a deal her own mother accepted, that Ovi was the mother taking care of her for the first couple of months and everything that followed. None of the three are without faults, but Ovi and Arjun are painted as the villians while Purvi is the victim. All Pari has to do is watch some DVDs of old family functions to see that her mother isn't as saintly as it seems and maybe then she'll have the heart to get in touch with Arjun to find out the truth.

I cannot fathom why Arjun didn't try to get in touch with Purvi and try to sort the misunderstanding. I understand initially Purvi was in shock, but didn't she feel like confronting him after she calmed down to find out the truth instead of writing about her sad life in the diary every night. And what drove her to the conclusion to claim that Arjun chose Ovi? When has he chosen Ovi? And if he were to choose Ovi, why would he divorce her in the first place? What has Arjun done previously that cast a doubt on his loyalty for her when on every step he had adhered to her demands (no matter how stupid they were)? After his divorce to Ovi, he had clearly told Purvi that he and Ovi couldn't make it work as he never loved her. Because of her love for Arjun, Purvi couldn't move on with a good man like Onir, and now after she has married him she leaves him for the ficklest of reasons.

Neither can I believe the Deshmukhs are so hypocritical that they can't accept Pia and Ovi after 20 years, when they could accept Pari and Purvi for the same thing. There has to be another reason for all this. Or maybe Ekta just needed to show something (or rather anything) and create a misunderstanding of some sort before taking her leap.

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