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Posted: 12 years ago
Dear Nikita,

I remembered you because the quality of your arguments, and your quiet, patient persistence, struck me, and stayed in my mind. Plus, I have, even in my present declining years, a fairly good memory!😉

I watched Episode 2 of Jodha Akbar last night, and Jodha was as lousy as ever, spouting, not nationalistic rhetoric, for Rajputana was not a nation, but the local equivalent thereof, and taking kasams to bring Jalal's head to the feet of Maa Kali. Rubbish,and she looks very strange trying to act impressive,

Next, the CVs do not know the difference between jauhar (en masse suicide by fire by all the womenfolk when their city is about to fall to the enemy, a highly emotive and ceremonial event), sati ( a woman committing suicide by burning herself on her husband's funeral pyre; outlawed in the the early 19th century and since disappeared), and plain and simple suicide by setting fire to oneself in despair, They called this last jauhar!

Next, Jodha's father, the king of Amer, who looks like a prosperous, paunchy kirana dukanwalla, rather than a royal personage, when he is ranting about Jalal's heartlessness, uses Urdu words like jahannum (instead of narak), and qayamat, which would never have been the case. But who are we to quibble about such trifles? But I thought back with nostalgia about the dignified and proud King of Amer in the film, played very well by Kulbhushan Kharbanda.

But your favourite was in top form as Jalal. His mirthless smile just before meting out punishment is terrifying, and in his interaction with a sardar of his, Sharifuddin (played, incidentally, by Vinod Karanjkar from PR!) he is all smooth menace. Clearly a lad of much promise, and at his 22 years, with a long career ahead of him. He has presence, and that is an intangible commodity that cannot be learnt; it is either there or it is not there, like charisma. He will hold his own even in this dismal production, I have no doubt of that.

As for Rajshri Thakur as the patrani in Maharana Pratap, I am with you completely, She looks every inch a queen. She has the face for it, and yes, the presence as well.

Shyamala Aunty

QUOTE=nikitagmc]Oh and thankyou to everyone who shared their knowledge about Akbar.

@Shyamala Aunty: Hey there! Am surprised that you remember me, considering we have interacted so few times! But I'm certainly glad that you do! :-)
I have not been watching Maharana Pratap continuously, just on and off, (my mother watches it continuously though) but it does look MUCH better than Ekta's Jodha Akbar- they are focussing on the right things in the show. And I'm liking the actress who plays his mother, I forget her name, she used to play Saloni on Saath Phere earlier on Zee. She truly has the mannerism of a queen.
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: floparvi

ekta had excelled in showing rapes in kyunki , kasuti , kahani and each freaking K show. this is something which i had read in an article.

so kekta thought to start khmk also with a molestation i.e draupadi vastra-haran !!!🤢
(by the way , only a rape is something which remains to be shown in pr. i hope kekta doesn't show rape of purvi or gauri in future. she should spare her audiences atleast on that front)
that was so freaking wrong of her to show draupadi vastraharan right in first episode.
don't even comment about the costumes. the way she showed draupadi with a sexy tattoo little above her mammary glands was highly cheap. atleast thank the almighty that she didn't show jodha with a tattoo on her body. in JA kekta has atleast spared the audiences from hideous costumes which she depicted in KHMK

i agree...😆😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
Shyamala I agree with you about Jodha Akbar. The girl who plays Jodha is highly unimpressive but Rajat as Jalaj is great. His smile is terrifying and he plays the part of a shrewd and cunning ruler well. I just hope that in Jodha's efforts to change Jalal, he doesn't become a cowering simpering character like Arjun has become because the story seems like EK's typical "good girl changes bad boy into good guy." I already feel bad for Jalal .
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Posted: 12 years ago
I didn't really watch the second episode, but only the very last scene as my recording of PR changed my channel to Zee (and even then without my full attention, since I was busy with the dishes). But, I saw Vinod and I thought, everyone of PR must be in JA. I agree the actor playing Jalal in that scene was menacing. His expressions were cruel and I thought, this actor can act. Only wish, Ekta wasn't showing Akbar modeled in the character of Babur, Timur and Genghis Khan.
aunty time is not far when jodha Akbar will witness same fate as kahaani hamarey mahabharat ki.
that show stopped in between only. it wasn't even rushed to the end. ekta faced severe criticism and i even heard that she got some warnings which lead to a ban on the show. i don't know how much right i am.
its after khmk that ekta started making serials without initial K letter. i guess pr was the first. forget about initial K letter, but pr didn't have a single K in it.
maharana pratap is a masterpiece. the sets are fabulous and the 3 queens are superb.
besides i highly appreciate the parents of faisal khan that inspite of being muslims they allowed their son to play maharana pratap who wanted to drive out muslims from mewar. that lad is really very talented.
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Posted: 12 years ago
Now, what with PR yaar...
Purvi thinks she is right not to give Onir, pati ka darja because she didn't have sex with him😕. But, not for a sec, she doubted if Onir was speaking the truth about Shalini. It is the same trust issue Arman had always and was their trademark. Now, Purvi is ready to accept anything Onir says - as an easy excuse to move away from Onir, since Arjun is free with Ovi out as well. So, is this her natak?? She forgot all Onir has done for her, pampering her -and is only glorifying that she was right not to have sex with him.
And here Arjun feels that since he has sex with Ovi and provided her with food and shelter, he has given him patni ka darja😕...
Is this what a PAvitra Rishta has been reduced too - Sex, simply????
Now, what happens when Onir turns out to be a Devta??? Will Purvi run to give him pati ka darja, by having sex with him😉
Ridiculous storyline😕
Edited by Kalapi - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
Well, Nina, I will enjoy his present Jalal as long as it lasts, and when it becomes too soft to take, I will bail out. The problem with PR is that however miserable the storyline and the performances are, I seem to be a serial recidivist, never able to stay away for keeps!

What to say of Jalal, think of the original Soham with his cheeky bad boy charm, and at times snarling menace, and look at him now!

Ekta's approach is to sprinkle heaps of an all purpose scripting masala on all her serials, and trust to the lethargy of the audience to survive. But occasionally, the audience snarls and bites her in the ankle, as with her frightful Mahabharata. Let us see if the same happens to this one, though it would be let down for the boy playing Jalal. I really like him.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: salvatore-nina

Shyamala I agree with you about Jodha Akbar. The girl who plays Jodha is highly unimpressive but Rajat as Jalaj is great. His smile is terrifying and he plays the part of a shrewd and cunning ruler well. I just hope that in Jodha's efforts to change Jalal, he doesn't become a cowering simpering character like Arjun has become because the story seems like EK's typical "good girl changes bad boy into good guy." I already feel bad for Jalal .

Edited by sashashyam - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
Why all JA links for past two days have been showing rejected for dailymotion?
Wonder show will be banned b4 it takes off 😉😆
ADD: I just glanced thru today's link...Did not find Jodha pretty or good actress, her mother's dialogue delivery was hillarious..Vinod and DK wow given a job...No wonder DK had been muchhiless 😆 Due to his new role in JA..Atleast Vinod's dialogue delivery is better ...Not whining type 😛 I dont think I could sit thru for 20 min each day..Real washed down- run down version of JA IMHO..😳
Jalal is the only one seems to be good at this point. Like his long hair and eyes 😃
Edited by Dabulls23 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
Now, I am curious, after it is revealed that Onir is the GOD personified, will he leave Purvi citing that after all he has done for her, he never got a thing in return and now added to this - mistrust and allowing Purvi's loverboy Arjun not only to hire a detective, but do detecttive giri on him too. to prove criminal intentions/past of Onir...priceless😉. Truly, a Pavitra Rishta teri meri 😉 ki
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Posted: 12 years ago
Guys,

I read that some SBS segment showed that Onir doing all this for uniting Arjun-Purvi was out in the open...And some scene of onir and purvi crying.

LOL.

Will purvi run back to goody-two-shoes husband? Or will she finally stick to one man and go with Arjun into eternity?

Even the CV's are trapped in their own maya jaal and have no way to get out of it. Just making it more and more twisted.

How can Purvi walk away from a man who has literally given up on everything for her? And if she does not go back to Arjun, how will amar prem live?

ahahaha...

I don't know what is happening. Purvi gave up on Arjun for Ovi. Onir gives up on Purvi for her and Arjun. Why does love have to donated in this show? why can;t you show actual love that rises above all adversity and is strong enough to stand through bad weather? Why do people have go and do charity for love? Who does that?

PR sounds more like an NGO for love. Come and pick one and the owner will donate happily. People own their lovers, like slaves. We can give them away liek candy.

How is this amar prem, or any prem at all? Geez!
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: pari87

Guys,


I read that some SBS segment showed that Onir doing all this for uniting Arjun-Purvi was out in the open...And some scene of onir and purvi crying.

LOL.

Will purvi run back to goody-two-shoes husband? Or will she finally stick to one man and go with Arjun into eternity?

Even the CV's are trapped in their own maya jaal and have no way to get out of it. Just making it more and more twisted.

How can Purvi walk away from a man who has literally given up on everything for her? And if she does not go back to Arjun, how will amar prem live?

ahahaha...

I don't know what is happening. Purvi gave up on Arjun for Ovi. Onir gives up on Purvi for her and Arjun. Why does love have to donated in this show? why can;t you show actual love that rises above all adversity and is strong enough to stand through bad weather? Why do people have go and do charity for love? Who does that?

PR sounds more like an NGO for love. Come and pick one and the owner will donate happily. People own their lovers, like slaves. We can give them away liek candy.

How is this amar prem, or any prem at all? Geez!

Pari, even I am super curious, will Purvi choose Devta over the 🤬 Arjun 😆😆
And, if then Onir will walk away from her - all these Pavitra Rishtas have huge trust issues - a man Purvi never trusted who protected her over a year and never took any undue advantage of😛
Edited by Kalapi - 12 years ago

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