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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: rajvta

you have summed up the whole fiasco beautifully. Loved it 👏.

Also, wanted to add another thing, some posters were harping on the fact that Pari is illegitimate and hence Ovi was practical enough to ask why she was not aborted ( as if that makes the question right). A child is not illegitimate or legitimate, relationships are. And as Pari was conceived just a day before her parents marriage was to take place, the relationship being illegitimate is also a moot point IMHO.
As for Archana, I still feel she will come around. She may also be more angry for the fact that Purvi again sacrificed for the selfish d family(read Ovi) when she expressly asked her not to do so anymore.

So totally endorse that, a baby can never be illegitimate or legitimate, it does not deserve any label except love.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: ilovedhanjanird

Jhanvi Di,

As always an amazing post 👏

Now coming to Archu's POV, I think she is right where she is. For her, it wouldn't be much of a shocker if Ovi was the one who got pregnant out of wedlock but it's Purvi the one she showers her trust, love, everything to.

The circumstances which led to current fiasco?
For Archana, even to us as viewers the situation Arjun and Purvi had sex under is quite unbelievable. So they had a near death experience, it was raining they got turned on? 😕
Had they married at that point, I don't think Archana would be upset they were only engaged.

I know Purvi sacrificed a lot for her mother, but to her mother Purvi is happy with Onir while Arjun and Ovi sort out their differences.

Her mother, just like any of us would have that one question WHY SHE GAVE PARI

had she not given Pari to Arovi nothing of this sort would happen

Saying "I AM DEAD TO YOU" is quite a natural reaction and not an extra ordinary one
For someone like Archana who gives utmost importance to marriage, this is a shame. Purvi even admitted she left town so Arovi would be happy.
That means she knew of her pregnancy when she left town
If she spoke up then, so many lives wouldn't be destroyed.

Thank you!😉 How are you?
By circumstances that led to this sorry situation, I meant the deal, Purvi giving up on Arjun the day of their wedding, and the resultant mess and the reason behind Purvi giving up Arjun - bartering her mother's happiness with her sister.
You know I pondered on what you wrote that "I am dead to you" bit and I must say I agree with you, 😆 I do say to my kids, "don't ever talk to me again" or "I will never talk to you again" so I guess it can be interpreted to mean the same. Hope Archana forgives Purvi, mothers tend to do that too, forgive their children easily i.e.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: soapwatcher1

Thank you!😉 How are you?

By circumstances that led to this sorry situation, I meant the deal, Purvi giving up on Arjun the day of their wedding, and the resultant mess and the reason behind Purvi giving up Arjun - bartering her mother's happiness with her sister.
You know I pondered on what you wrote that "I am dead to you" bit and I must say I agree with you, 😆 I do say to my kids, "don't ever talk to me again" or "I will never talk to you again" so I guess it can be interpreted to mean the same. Hope Archana forgives Purvi, mothers tend to do that too, forgive their children easily i.e.


I am good Di, how are you?
Everyone seems to have memory problems in this family
Remember when Ovi asked Arjun why he didn't tell her they have per marital sex 😆
Ever since Arjun and ovi got married
The emphasis has always been on purvi sacrificing FOR ovi
The writers themselves forgot why the deal took place
😉
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: ilovedhanjanird


I don't think any of us said it because Pari was legitimate or illegitimate
It's practical because PURVI CLAIMED she left town so AROVI could be happy
When you keep someone's baby, you are keeping a part of them
had Purvi not claimed to want Arovi's happiness Ovi wouldn't ask this question
Purvi was always hovering around, interfering in Ovi's life
If Purvi could snatch the right from Ovi to not let her see her stillborn
Then Ovi also had the right to ask this simple question
Why is it that everything Ovi does/ says is a sin
but Purvi's bigger mistakes are overlooked

Just because Purvi wants AROVI to be happy does not mean she should kill her baby. The baby is as much hers as Arjun's. She may have given up Arjun but the baby has its own identity and a mother bonds with her baby as soon as she knows (most at least) that she is expecting. And, most mothers do not always think that their babies belong to the dads (even if they know this subconsciously) but the overriding emotion is that of love. I think of my children as "mine" (Ovi syndrome here😆) it is only when they do something I don't approve that they suddenly become their dad's. 😉 So Purvi wanting AROVI to be happy is independent of her keeping her child. However much she wants AROVI to be happy, if Purvi thinks of abortion as a sin and as murder, no one should expect her to kill her baby for anyone else's sake. I do not think Archana herself would have approved of Purvi aborting her baby.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: ilovedhanjanird


I am good Di, how are you?
Everyone seems to have memory problems in this family
Remember when Ovi asked Arjun why he didn't tell her they have per marital sex 😆
Ever since Arjun and ovi got married
The emphasis has always been on purvi sacrificing FOR ovi
The writers themselves forgot why the deal took place
😉

I am good, still at work :( Any plans for the summer?
Yes, the CVs suffer from amnesia :) But I guess when they spin so many threads, they lose track easily Confused
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Tanya, very valid points, I will respond from home :)
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: soapwatcher1

Just because Purvi wants AROVI to be happy does not mean she should kill her baby. The baby is as much hers as Arjun's. She may have given up Arjun but the baby has its own identity and a mother bonds with her baby as soon as she knows (most at least) that she is expecting. And, most mothers do not always think that their babies belong to the dads (even if they know this subconsciously) but the overriding emotion is that of love. I think of my children as "mine" (Ovi syndrome here😆) it is only when they do something I don't approve that they suddenly become their dad's. 😉 So Purvi wanting AROVI to be happy is independent of her keeping her child. However much she wants AROVI to be happy, if Purvi thinks of abortion as a sin and as murder, no one should expect her to kill her baby for anyone else's sake. I do not think Archana herself would have approved of Purvi aborting her baby.


Di, it's very sad but in Indian societies when a woman keeps a child out of wedlock automatically it's assumed she kept it for the fathers wealth or she kept it to go back to the father
The baby is as much Arjun's as much hers
But again ovi as a wife , she thinks purvi is lying
So for her it doesn't make sense why a woman would keep the baby and give it to her
I guess that's why she asked the question
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Posted: 12 years ago
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On and I just attended a wedding in the states, what are your plans? I guess I will be here all the time ! :(
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Posted: 12 years ago
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For me, Archana's reaction is not wrong. And to Purvi, Archana was shocked and dismayed that Purvi betrayed the trust.

But what Purvi said was that it wasn't a "pre-conceived" act which is true. Both Arjun and Purvi did not plan for the night, it wasn't a tryst with youthful lust, it happened due to various reasons, one of them was the near-death experience and the fear of losing one of your loved ones. And neither of them are justifying their act.

When Archana could accept her goonda son without judging him, when she could accept Varsha who lived with a man for 18 years not being married to him, when she did not stop Ovi from taking her blessings when they came married, Archana's reactions looked a little over the line when Purvi was repeatedly begging her for forgiveness.

Archana knows about Onir now. Archana knows about Pari now. Archana herself heard from Purvi a day before that she is nothing without her "aayi". Archana as a mother should also deduce that it is not time to disown Purvi who does not have any other sahara emotionally. Archana is justified in her anger, frustration and not wanting to listen to Purvi now but Archana is not justified in the total rejection that Purvi is currently experiencing.

But I do hope and trust that Archana, unlike Manav, will see Pari's truth as one more problem of her children that she needs to resolve. She will not blame Purvi was Arjun-Ovi's marriage fiasco as she knew in her heart of hearts from day 1 that the marriage is not built on a solid foundation of trust and love. And hopefully, this rejection of her last hope will teach Purvi a few lessons and make her realise what an emotional fool that she has been. She needed to be punished but not to be abandoned.

And lastly, I found all the actors fab yesterday especially Ankita in her expressions and voice modulations. When facing her mom's rejection, Asha's portrayal of Purvi's grief and the sense of someone just learning that their last hope in life is lost went straight to my heart. She was brilliant. 👏
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Janhvi,

Nicely written 😊

While Archana's reaction does not bother me so much, it is Ovi's comment about aborting the baby that is not sitting well with me. I get Archana's reaction - it is natural. However, how come did she not react with anger at Ovi when she turned up married to Arjun??


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