Ovi to disappear from the house - Article - Page 5

I don't care what Arjun or Purvi does
I care what Ovi does
If this girl is not given justice now
I will be truly mad

Soumya dear,

Spot on. The CVs wanted all this over the top melodrama, that is all.

Now, withArchana in a coma, Arjun looking like a wet rag most of the time, Purvi looking bedraggled and frumpy, Ovi crying and distorting her face, and Onir setting my teeth on edge with his eternal hosannas to his mishti and her ways, PR is starved, both for good looks and for even vestiges of good sense.

Shyamala Aunty

Shyamala Aunty, i wrote exactly the same that purvi could have achieved this in any number of ways, ne of them being stopping her wedding, for the moment or forever, because that was exactly what ovi wanted---that she leave arjun. those were ovis words when she proposed the deal to purvi. Now after that, if ovi could woo arjun and if he agreed to do anything with her ir not, it didnt concern purvi nor affect the terms of the deal. She could have very well waited until everything with the D clan was sorted and her aai accepted well n truly by her family before marrying arjun in a years time or two. Ovi would probably have moved on by then, with having her aai's support that she so blatantly craves for. Either way, it wouldn't have mattered. But she did the one thing that ensured ruin, something that even ovi did not ask for or expect. She went ahead n got them married. Copy-pasting my full post here"Jhanvi, agreed it wasn't purvi's need or place to advice archana how to deal with ovi. I will concede also that purvi could agree to marry the guy who even though he told her he loved her--also hid the fact from her that he had given his word to another girl, leave alone her mother's estranged daughter, who got engaged in front of her and who kept up the engagement for a few months while continuing to profess his love for her. Let's say there was no one else in the world for her, and also that she had to get married to him so urgently--no not necessary to wait until ovi got out of her depression, not her sister not her problem especially when archana herself was least concerned about it. Why couldn't she wait until the divorce was finalized and the D clan left for canada? Of course, her mother insisted and she couldn't say no. All of this, I will concede--chalo, she's only following her heart and her aai's orders.

Why then the insistence on manav doing the kanyadaan? Manav was the dad who was trying to keep his depressed daughter from doing something stupid while her mother and aaji were making preparations for a super-fast grand wedding with the guy who was supposed to marry the same daughter, this while also dealing with the divorce which he wanted done and all the obstacles created by purvi herself. Did she really think of anyone but herself here? She wanted manav, but not the rest of the family that came with him? If she was set on marrying arjun, she should have known that Manav could not be a part of her happiness. She did not know ovi was depressed and suicidal, but she knew manav's feelings on her betrothal right? He had made it very clear to all of them. She also knew the marriage was making relations of her mom with D clan worse, she knew that. Her mom did not care for it, she accepted that. But purvi didn't. She still wanted manav, but how could she have him as her dad when she was marrying his daughter's ex-fiance? Nothing changed for her when ovi presented the deal to her, she already knew the facts as they were. Yes, she got hope that not going through the marriage will stop the divorce. That should have been obvious---without arjun-purvi marriage, the divorce would be open for dialogue atleast. With their marriage happening, there was no way for reconciliation.

And really, for anyone with any kind of sense, she had several weapons in her arsenal she could have used instead of not only agreeing to the deal but getting arjun and ovi married. She knew that archana had not signed the divorce papers, maybe that info would not have stopped the divorce by itself but telling that vital info to somebody would have made them curious. That's what happened with teju--she realized that savita had signed the divorce papers and not archana, she did some investigation and uncovered the truth. The other thing is the deal itself. Ovi asked purvi to stop the marriage in exchange of archana's acceptance in their lives. Purvi could have just stopped the wedding, whether for the moment or forever, she needn't have forced arjun to marry ovi. Ovi couldn't have expected that purvi would actually arrange arjun-ovi wedding, she wanted and asked her to stop arjun-purvi wedding itself. She clearly said--"tum bas arjun ko chod do". Of course, purvi took it one step further and not only stopped her own wedding but got ovi married to him. And finally, she could have just told her they had already had intimate relation-that would have probably stopped Ovi in her tracks. or she could have just flat out refused Ovi, gone ahead with the wedding without suddenly thinking about family reconciliation and worried about it later. It wasn't that she was put on a spot right at the muhurat either that she had to make a hasty decision, she had 48 hours to think and make a decision. And she took this decision, nuff said."

1. Ovi running out of the house will not help anyone. instead it will lead Manav to hate Purvi more. Manav is too much attached with Ovi and never advised her in anything. So naturally Manav anger will turn against Purvi. who knows Manav will be turned as another enemy to Purvi and put Onir behind bars.

2. considering past records, Arjun will run around and search for Ovi. he will soon turn as devdas. hope he doesn't take the place of Ovi in shouting and blaming others.

3. not sure Ovi running with baby or not. if she runs away with Pari then Varsha & Soham part 2 will happen with Ovi and Pari.

Knowing all these will happen Purvi hide the truth and ran out of Mumbai. but fate brought her back into Mumbai with her own emotional attachment for D family. even though its Purvi decision to return to Mumbai why the fate decided to give saving Ovi in the hand of Onir. that lead to all these confusion again.

My dear Vasu,

First things first. I would like to wish you and your family a very happy Tamizh Puttandu. This being a Sunday, I hope you were able to celebrate it properly.

Secondly, my dear, it is very difficult to decide which is obsession and which is love. They are often the same. As Dr. S,Radhakrishnan once said ' In capitalism, man exploits man. In communism, it is the opposite". For the bulk of this forum however, it is delightfully simple. True love, or amar prem, is the one between Arjun and Purvi. The rest is all obsession.

To my mind, the essence of a great love is deewangee, the total absorption in the object of your affection, to the exclusion of all else. So were all the great lovers - Romeo and Juliet, :Laila and Majnu, Heer and Ranjha, Shirin and Farhad.

Purvi does not at all fit into this definition of what the French would call le grand amour. Her love for Arjun, such as it is, is flat-footed on the ground at all times, which is why she would never count the world well lost for him. If she had been able to do that, she could never have given him up, and then pushed him into a disastrous marriage to boot. Can you imagine Juliet abandoning Romeo and making him marry Rosalind, for whatever reason?

Ovi, I think, has this deewangee, which is why she is also totally lacking in self-respect and ethical behaviour, for only the end counts for her, not the means. But I see what Purvi did to Arjun as even more unethical, for she was his beloved, and she betrayed his blind trust in her.

Arjun has that deewangee in his love for Purvi, and if she were to give him the green signal now, he would dump Ovi in an instant and go over to her. Probably even if the baby was Ovi's. He has no self-respect either, where Purvi is concerned.

As for why Ovi does not try her best to make her marriage a success, she does at the beginning. She never makes any demands on Arjun and is quiet and submissive. But later, as Arjun himself confesses in his soliloquy to a sleeping Ovi, the fact that he openly moons about Purvi in private while making an exaggerated show of affection for Ovi in public erodes this earlier good sense.

I never liked Ovi till very recently, and I have made harsh critiques of her behaviour . But right now, she is more sinned against than sinning, and deserves my sympathy.

As for Arjun and Purvi, they both set my teeth on edge, especially she, with her total lack of any concern for what might very well happen to her husband for something into which she pushed him, with all that desperate clinging and tears. She knows only how to take from Category B, to wit Arjun and Onir. She never even thinks of giving Onir something. Like the bed, for starters?

My dear, of course you must defend Purvi if you want to, and I am sure you can do a good job of it. But you will excuse me if I do not respond. What I would like to do to Purvi would not be nice. I detest her, and as nothing you can possibly say is going to make me change my mind on that terminally self-centred, ruthlessly explotative wretch - after all, that master of verbal wizardry, Janhvi, has already tried in vain, and I cannot imagine anyone trumping her efforts on behalf of Purvi - it would be best for me to take a pass.

But rest assured that Janvhi will be there to support you, and I am sure that a feast of reason will result, to the great joy of all the Purvi-philes in the forum, whose percentage has generally hovered around 95!

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: archis_infinity

Dear Shyamala aunty, I am happy to continue our interaction from yesterday.

Lets leave Purvi aside for a while as my previous response was strictly for Ovi, her love for Arjun and her self esteem.

My reasons for concluding that Ovi was just obsessed with Arjun simply because she did not understand his feelings for Purvi even after seeing it in close quarters. I had written in another thread about the hospital scene where Arjun was in a critical condition after being hit by bullets. Ovi saw with her own eyes on how Arjun, even then, wanted to be reassured by Purvi that all was well with her. If any of Arjun's words to Ovi and her family that he loved Purvi and no one else did not get to her till then, the above act in the hospital should have driven the point.

It did not because Ovi saw Arjun as her "possession". She is often portrayed in the serial as being selfish and I see this as one of the traits of their characteristics. Remember the words when she went to Purvi with her deal - "mera arjun muje de do"? To her, Arjun is her property no matter what his feelings are. Do you call that love? Well, with the marraige offer, she knew that she is not getting him with his body, mind and soul and that's exactly what she got in the bargain. Why not face the consequences then?

There has been numerous references in the posts that Ovi has been "upfront" with what she wanted to do regarding arjun. Really? If she had genuine intentions, why not approach him as part of the deal, try and drive some sense to him about their life together? She had all the advantages of being his best friend, growing up together, sharing similar life style, social standing, family friendship and above all , she should have trusted her love on him to achieve what she wanted. Instead she went to Archana and Purvi, the two people she despised because she was "smart" in making the deal and getting what she wanted? If this is the foundation of her love, no wonder her married life has shown the cracks as we saw them.

ok, lets assume this is all part of pre-marraige deal and should not have much influence once they are married. Sorry, the matters of heart don't work that way but what should she have done if she truly loved Arjun? While Arjun was struggling to get adjusted to his life without Purvi, she should have given him time, be patient and given him space to get to his old self. Purvi was not even in town to keep reminding Arjun of her physical presence. Ovi should not be goading him all the time about his ex and worst of all, talking about their family life openly with her family and in the useless parties ...

Having said all this, I agree that Ovi is maturing lately. I feel Pari has brought that change in her and she truly loves the baby as Pari is her own. She could finally recognize that Purvi did not steal Arjun and he was always Purvi's as she admitted in friday's episode.

Ovi feels betrayed (and rightfully so) as she feels, Arjun had physical relationship with Purvi after his marriage (thanks to Purvi's false pregnancy report) and that Arjun has known the fact that their baby had died while Pari was swapped. Given that she does not know the full truth, my heart goes to her in this grief and if going by the recent articles, she leaves Arjun , I would be proud of her as any woman with self-esteem would take that call. A tad late in case of Ovi but right decision, nevertheless.

Unfortunately given the constraint on time, I need to come back later on a different post to defend Purvi.😊

All I want is ArVi reunion. OVI can die or disappear. Who cares lmao..

My dear Vasu,

You really are a most persuasive young lady and you have very neatly stitched together an apparently coherent defence of Purvi. Jahnvi, who still has an extremely soft corner for her (ex?) ladli, would applaud.

Now let me point out the gaps, purely in a spirit of dispassionate analysis.

I grant you Purvi's inferiority complex about being adopted, though why she should feel it with so much love and caring at home and so much professional success and appreciation is beyond me. But let us take it that it is so. Janhvi in fact has a theory that she could never really believe her good luck in Arjun loving her, but I never bought that, nor Bee's theory that Arjun was ok with being the sacrifice on the altar Purvi's devotion to her aai, which is not tenable at all seeing how vociferously he complains to her about his marital misery when he finally corners her in the street near his car.

But how ever do you come to assume that Purvi would believe that Arjun would not be miserable with Ovi? If she really thought that, there can be only one reason for it, that she loved him only lukewarmly, and she assumed that his love for her was the same, and would die out. Do you remember the scene at the end of the Arjun-Purvi engagement party, near the water, when he introduces her to his mother, as a star in the sky? After listening to him there, if the girl thought he would get over her soon and be comfortable with Ovi, she must have several screws missing!

Then again, she later tells Archana that she cannot bear to see Arjun with another girl, and hints that this is partly the reason for her leaving Mumbai, the other part being Ovi's insecurity. The first might well have been true, though the real reason is of course the baby that is on the way.

It was very funny to see Purvi, after having uttered this, and many other whoppers, now lecturing Arjun that suppressio veri is as bad as suggestio falsi! Purvi hides truths from everyone and/or tells lies to everyone - her mother and grandma, Arjun, Onir -- there is no one left.

The second part is not correct. As a matter of fact, after the slapfest there, Ovi is ready to call it quits, but our lover boy, after a great deal of vain protest with his premika, follows her orders and goes and asks Ovi for a second chance! I was disgusted with him then, and since then he has become even more of Purvi's puppet.

And he IS her puppet, Vasu, as is Onir. When you voice disbelief that such a moderate beauty is able to produce such slavish devotion in two such very successful men, I could not believe your disbelief! My dear, it has nothing to do with looks, or intelligence or even with being a femme fatale. Which last our Purvi is not; I would have liked her better if she was one!

Some women have IT, the ability to effortlessly make men not desire them, but fall in love with them, and the more unlikely the candidate, the deeper he falls, and is never able to rise again. I say often that Purvi is like Homer's Circe, who could turn strong men into swine, except that here they are tame poodles.

Both Arjun and Onir are so besotted with her that they can see nothing wrong in anything she does or makes them do. This is not so uncommon as you seem to assume, and the most hardheaded and tough men fall prey to such a crippling attraction.

If it were not so, why on earth would Arjun accept her idiotic demand and commit harakiri by not just giving up the girl he loves so deeply, but actually marrying a girl for whom he feels nothing ? And then having marital relations with her, to give her a wife's haq (what an awful term!) again only because Purvi tells him, again and again, "If you ever loved me, you will do this and this and this"?

Onir falls in love with Purvi at first sight, and he is a very unlikely candidate for such an emotion. But fall he does, and once he falls, he too seems to lose all his sense of judgement and of self-preservation, not to speak of the sense of right and wrong. Why else would he swap the babies, knowing full well that if it were ever to come out (and these days there are CCTV cameras everywhere, including in hospital corridors and of course in the nursery. Never in the patients' rooms of course, though they show it that way), he could very easily lose his licence, and be not just disgraced but be cut off from his lifelong passion? Why on earth would such a man, of great integrity, do anything so stupid, besides being wrong? Why, to please his mishti, of course. Plus he is always nattering about her sacrifices, exactly like Arjun. What is this but a dangerous obsession?

You let Purvi off easily for all her follies, but you have not answered my key question. Why is it that when she decides to come clean, or even earlier when Onir is dragged to court and faces total disgrace and a jail sentence, she does not say even once that she is desperately sorry that she got him into this and could he please forgive her? Why is it that she laments all the time to him What will we do, Onir, everyone will find out! The family will be destroyed! Ovi will be shattered! , but has nary a word about HIM and what the debacle will mean for HIM?

It is unbelievable, her total self-centredness.She thinks of nothing but herself and those who matter to her, and neither Arjun then nor Onir now figure on that list. On a more pedestrian note, why does she let him sleep on the floor? He is surely not going to make unwanted advances to her if he occupied the other half of the bed, as he is shown doing in Kolkata. It is ridiculous.

As for Onir singing her praises all the time and voicing the view that no one will take her amiss when the truth comes out, it was so foolish that it quite took my breath away. I think he is going to drop off my (admittedly miniscule) list of Likes in PR. I like strong men, who are men even in love, and not slavish poodles.

Anyway, as Purvi is, after Archana, She Who Can Do No Wrong, she will come out of it all right, probably with a large medal for her mahaantam tyaag of giving Ovi her baby. I do not know how her aaji is going to react to this revelation of the gaping holes in the sanskaars imparted to her beloved Purvi, as revealed by the circumstances leading to Pari's existence.

The ones who are going to cop it are Arjun and Onir. Arjun, who closely resembled a goldfish in the precap, is probably going to get more slaps from Manav than he did when he announced for the first time that he loved Purvi. Onir will suddenly become persona non grata will one and all, and might be back in the court and headed for the chokey. Both of them deserve whatever comes to them.

Shyamala Aunty


QUOTE=archis_infinity]

Originally posted by: sashashyam

My dear Vasu,

First things first. I would like to wish you and your family a very happy Tamizh Puttandu. This being a Sunday, I hope you were able to celebrate it properly.

Secondly, my dear, it is very difficult to decide which is obsession and which is love. They are often the same. As Dr. S,Radhakrishnan once said ' In capitalism, man exploits man. In communism, it is the opposite". For the bulk of this forum however, it is delightfully simple. True love, or amar prem, is the one between Arjun and Purvi. The rest is all obsession.

To my mind, the essence of a great love is deewangee, the total absorption in the object of your affection, to the exclusion of all else. So were all the great lovers - Romeo and Juliet, :Laila and Majnu, Heer and Ranjha, Shirin and Farhad.

Purvi does not at all fit into this definition of what the French would call le grand amour. Her love for Arjun, such as it is, is flat-footed on the ground at all times, which is why she would never count the world well lost for him. If she had been able to do that, she could never have given him up, and then pushed him into a disastrous marriage to boot. Can you imagine Juliet abandoning Romeo and making him marry Rosalind, for whatever reason?

Ovi, I think, has this deewangee, which is why she is also totally lacking in self-respect and ethical behaviour, for only the end counts for her, not the means. But I see what Purvi did to Arjun as even more unethical, for she was his beloved, and she betrayed his blind trust in her.

Arjun has that deewangee in his love for Purvi, and if she were to give him the green signal now, he would dump Ovi in an instant and go over to her. Probably even if the baby was Ovi's. He has no self-respect either, where Purvi is concerned.

As for why Ovi does not try her best to make her marriage a success, she does at the beginning. She never makes any demands on Arjun and is quiet and submissive. But later, as Arjun himself confesses in his soliloquy to a sleeping Ovi, the fact that he openly moons about Purvi in private while making an exaggerated show of affection for Ovi in public erodes this earlier good sense.

I never liked Ovi till very recently, and I have made harsh critiques of her behaviour . But right now, she is more sinned against than sinning, and deserves my sympathy.

As for Arjun and Purvi, they both set my teeth on edge, especially she, with her total lack of any concern for what might very well happen to her husband for something into which she pushed him, with all that desperate clinging and tears. She knows only how to take from Category B, to wit Arjun and Onir. She never even thinks of giving Onir something. Like the bed, for starters?

My dear, of course you must defend Purvi if you want to, and I am sure you can do a good job of it. But you will excuse me if I do not respond. What I would like to do to Purvi would not be nice. I detest her, and as nothing you can possibly say is going to make me change my mind on that terminally self-centred, ruthlessly explotative wretch - after all, that master of verbal wizardry, Janhvi, has already tried in vain, and I cannot imagine anyone trumping her efforts on behalf of Purvi - it would be best for me to take a pass.

But rest assured that Janvhi will be there to support you, and I am sure that a feast of reason will result, to the great joy of all the Purvi-philes in the forum, whose percentage has generally hovered around 95!

Shyamala Aunty

There are so many amazing posts here; I am so impressed with the rationale and intelligent arguments on both sides! CVs, you reading these? If you want to save the show from the joke it has deteriorated to, I suggest you study these character debates and come up with a coherent plotline that will enable us to re-established our connection to the PR characters, and not the caricatures they've become.

I would like to say something in response to archi

Originally posted by: pesi11

yeah..tht might be gud for ovi ..but one thing i couldn't understand in arjun's behavior..

arjun always behind ovi asking her to not to consume alcohol .. he was always concerned abt baby

.. but when he comes to knew that pari was purvi's n his baby which means ovi n his baby was dead .. he never felt sad for losing the baby ..he never mourned for his baby ...

instead he did mourned for purvi losing her baby in hospital at the time accident happens...

how in earth arjun was not mourning for his baby whn he was so waiting for baby ... unbelievable ...he is acting like a shallow ..

but before ovi could divorce arjun , i want arun to realize his mistakes that he had done