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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

One would'nt say that if one came across a parent whose child's body was mutiliated by a serial killer or seen the face of a mother whose 5 year old daughter had brain tumour and was being operated for the sixth time . Good things don't always happen to good people , even with passage of time . If someone believes in this view good for him as it is an optimistic way of looking at life . Life is all about beliefs and these beliefs ultimately help one to plod along .


Fabulous question, Kools. Very philosophical as well. One that has run across my mind several times this past year.

First, let me point out there was a caveat in my statement , I wrote "I have always seen good people being rewarded, might take time, might look like the bad get what they want but ultimately, evil is punished and good does prevail"

As Shyamala put it, the answer might vary depending on our religion and faith, we could fall back on the old karma answer, the sins from our previous janam visiting us this janam. The deeply religious may believe that good is rewarded in the life after with eternal happiness and evil is banished to eternal hell.

My take on it is pretty simple, if you are a good person, good things will generally happen to you. There may be instances when the negative forces of the universe clash upon you unawares and you may be pushed down briefly but if you keep plodding (great choice of word, by the way) on your path of goodness unto others, your fortunes will reverse. I think of Job in the Bible and not just in reference to worldly fortunes. As for the person inflicting harm upon you, I sincerely believe they will be punished, the molester you talk about even if he does not live in fear and eternal misery will be found out eventually and punished. Maybe not to the extent that the family of the child wants him punished but punished he will be. You may cite people that have gotten off scot-free but I will in my naivete fall back upon the first part of my statement that any kind of wrong-doer can never sleep at night and will always live life a little more in fear.

If nothing bad ever happened, if people never died, there were no diseases, the world would be crowded, the natural order of the universe dictates that there be life and death. Who are we to presume which way of death is better than the other? A spouse whose husband has been dismembered in a road accident may never agree that her grief is less than a mother who is watching her 5 year old's face either mutilated by a sex offender or dying of cancer.

The question you pose is the eternal riddle of life, if we knew the answers, perhaps, we would be the next Buddha or Paramahamsa and not be discussing characters from PR on this forum.

You made mention in your previous post of Kaliyug and that in Kaliyug, good is not always rewarded. Adharma and anyaay (injustice) existed even in the times of the Ramayana, Mahabharata and Narasimha. These are as age old as man himself (Cain & Abel) and not new to Kaliyug.

Lastly, you are right, it is a matter of faith; bereft of hope, bereft of faith, life would become drab and meaningless, there would be no reason to rise and shine. The greatest Maya of life is that we believe we are eternal not knowing our sojourn in this world is ephemeral. The Gita asks us to be like the lotus flower in a murky pond, of this world yet detached and beautiful, very hard to follow in real life!😉

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Is there any way where i can't call this show "No More Pavitra Rishta"bcoz Day by Day Ekta is increasing the stories in the show n goes on manpulating the characters over there.
Once she brought Jaywant(Expectionally his character ended very soon but its was quite upto the mark i say) he was against all this Mahanta,But Now has come up with Onir who is Maha Gyani Doctor in swapping babies,keeping the hidden secret of baby from her's bio father.Who has made him to do all this?Thats None other than Our Purvi she has ended up with great deals to both Arjun n Onir.Coming to DNA reports changing then i m pretty sure that Purvi will change the reports to save Onir.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Love your posts, did I tell you that? My responses in red😉


Originally posted by: sashashyam

Janhvi sweetheart,

As for @blue, I agree completely, plus I noted that the davaaiyan look suspiciously like VitB complex. Plus she looks fat and well fed, and how much of davaaiyan does she need? And does she not have a pair of hands to get them to her mouth? It is irritating, the verbally challenged nature of their interactions. Of course it is the CVs who are mentally challenged. Lol at that. Poor Purvi, fat and well-fed? Like a calf being led to slaughter!

But I do not think he is 'old', poor Onir, he must be in his 30s. But then I suppose with Purvi stuck, like Markandeya at 16, at a perennial 19 ever since the 18 year leap, he must be looking ancient to the Arjun-Purvi fans whose average age is probably around 16. Kalapi made a very good timeline for the doctor being no more than 30, the younger the better, I prefer 25, what say you?

If you must infuse 'imaginary colour' into this character, you have to aim higher than organ trafficking or snatching that paltry 3 lakhs😉. I shall apply my mind and think of some promising options for you. Please do, dull and drab won't do anymore! Bored out of my mind with his dialogues, poor guy.

One problem is that Shakti simply does not have a face suited for sleek villainy, but we will think of a way to overcome that as well, never fear. This can become a game, like the time when we were looking for a dashing new young man for Purvi, to make Arjun jealous! Sounds like fun and something to look forward to! rubbing my hands in anticipated glee!

As for marrying her, he did himself the greatest disservice imaginable, the goop. She has just got started, has our mishti, and by the time she is finished he will not recognise himself!😉 Goop? couldn't you have found a more forceful word? Pained look!

Shyamala

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Well, Kools, I really loved Arjun, for in some fashion I saw him the way I see my Sasha, except that Sasha would never have been so stupid. I would never have let him!😉 Now, .after all that has happened, Arjun no longer seems to be the same bright, aggressive boy I cared for, but some of the earlier fondness still lingers. It is the maternal instinct, I guess!

I never liked Purvi much, and now I do not like her at all, as much for what she is doing to Onir as for what she did to Arjun.

I like Onir a lot because I find simple, transparently good characters very appealing, even if they are also naive and foolish. I will not and cannot believe that he is in any way actuated by base motives, whence my lo..ong defence of him to Janhvi. His being so besotted with Purvi is a pity, but there is nothing to be done with it, so one has to manage it as best one can, and I would like them to settle down together and be happy in a quiet sort of way.

In the Saturday PR special, one thing was very clear, there is going to be no Arjun-Purvi renunion. The priest made Onir and Purvi do the Shiva puja together, and that, I think, is conclusive.

I wrote some time back that this would be the case because, in that initial Mahashivaratri scene in that deserted temple, Purvi prays for a man who will belong to her alone, and that can no longer be Arjun, so it has to be Onir. Ovi, on the other hand, prays specifically for Arjun, and she gets him as well.

Then again, on Saturday, I noticed that Onir and Purvi visited two houses as part of the celebrations, which no one else did, and at one place, the housewife noted that their jodi should receive the same kind of maan-samman as Manav and Archana. As Manav-Archana are the gold standard for rishtas in PR, it seems pretty clear what the official thinking on Onir-Purvi is.

Lastly, as for the rabbit and the mouse, well, both Arjun and Onir are on par for foolishness, so I felt they should be on par in your clockwork menagerie as well!😉

Shyamala

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Ok then shyamala😆😆😆 clockwork toys then both of them . But i thought u liked Onir very much . Do u mean to say that Arjun will always be ur first favorite .😉

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

You see, Janhvi, this is what comes of thinking too much about PR!😉 None of the points you have raised is such as cannot be explained away easily, but if you are determined to see a dark shade in Onir, why then you will see it, for no one can prove a negative. Dear Shyamala, I am almost as enamored by the good doc as you are! Yes, playing devil's advocate again as you rightly surmised😆 Idle mind is after all the devil's workshop and the current epis of PR leave my mind vacant and raring for more masala! 😉

Let us take the organ trafficking charge against Onir, which is patently ridiculous. Mittal raises it to turn the tables on Onir, and kill two birds with one stone. Before Onir dug up that racket in the KV Hospital - which, by the way, was an open and shut affair, which forced Mittal to at least appear to sack Kundan in the spot - all was hunky dory. If Onir had been into organ trafficking, why would he expose Kundan at all? He would have joined forces with him and expanded his area of operations, and milked Mittal for whatever the traffic would bear for cooperating with him. I will not reiterate here as I already explained I was not accusing Onir of being an organ trafficker just pondering the reason behind Mittal's slamming that at Onir. A gaffe or some tangent sub-plot yet to be introduced by the CVs? I am positive not the last as the CVs are floundering trying to tie loose ends from weeks ago. 🤢

For you to think that Onir must be guilty because Why does Mittal accuse him of it? is really not worthy of you, my dear! As for why he does not report Kundan at once, he sees now that it is a mistake, but he does that because he thinks Kundan has been fired and he does not want to get Mittal, now a relative of his, into more trouble. It was ill-advised, as it turned out, but ill-intentioned? No. Not reporting Kundan and/or Mittal, whether the odious Mittal be related to Mishti or not, was still very erroneous on the part of Onir. While I might easily forgive Onir for the baby switch, not reporting a crime, that too a medical crime, especially with him being a doctor is far more serious in nature. Mishti and her relatives should have landed low, low on the totem pole in that equation.
As I noted above, if Onir was a master organ-trafficker, why would he be in any trouble at all now, after warning Mittal that he was going to report him? He would have told Mittal he was a fool to employ an inefficient chap like Kundan, and offered to do much better himself.

To sum up,the idea of Onir being guilty of organ trafficking is completely illogical and untenable. Not that you really believe it either; I suspect it is more that you are tired of liking him and want to play devil's advocate and have some fun.

As for his not wanting Purvi to come to court. It is because he is half afraid that though he has switched the DVD (why do they always call it a CD?), Mittal might have spotted the exchange and got another, correct copy. This would have led not just to Onir being exposed as a liar in open court, but to Ovi becoming hysterical and very likely violently abusing Purvi and Onir. He knows that Purvi is in a depressed and fragile emotional state - witness the way she breaks down and weeps all over him when he gets bail and comes back home - and he probably wants to spare her the initial, and very unpleasant shock of exposure in the open court. And it would have been VERY unpleasant all round. He tells Purvi as much when she asks why he did not tell her of the switch before they left for court. It is because he is not sure he has actually got a reprieve.

He also knows that it is just a reprieve, not an escape.What impressed me yesterday, even more than his cleverness and quick thinking in switching the DVDs, was the quiet strength and calm with which Onir faces his likely disgrace and downfall, even as Purvi seems to be doing her best to drive him up the wall with her lamentations and her panic-stricken weeping. He not only steadies her then, but even after the court hearing is over, he neither discounts the probability that Mittal will have another copy and will produce it at the next hearing, nor does he panic at the prospect, or let Purvi panic. Not too sure. Could be as innocent as it seems or the situation could be milked to other purposes.

He seems almost satvik as he contemplates his bleak future, and one gets the feeling that this is how he really is, he is not putting on a brave face for show. Such detached, clear-eyed courage is admirable. If he is indeed so, yes, he is to be admired, an intellectual, a do-gooder, a husband par excellence, honest, kind, a humanitarian, the list seems endless, almost too good to be true. But if he is real, I could not have endorsed a better guy for my ex-ladli! 😆

Now, if you are insisting that even the adroitness with which he changed those CDs "boded some evil intent behind it all", I have nothing more to say, except that I suspect some very devious ( I was going to say 'evil', but settled for 'devious'!) intent behind your new tack!😉 Janhvi, how can you? I was very pleased that for once Onir displayed some street smartness and some survival instinct. Would you refrain from detecting some 'evil intent' in him only if he had been cornered in court, like a bali ka bakra thanks to his being besotted with your ex-ladli, and sent to jail? I will concede, he is clever, he is intelligent and for once he was not queasy enough to do something shady. But this has become a habit with him! The blackmailer, the baby switch, the not reporting, then this. If he makes a habit of sullying his pure shiny white saintly habit, even you Shyamala will be hard put to defend him at every turn.

Well, as for his stopping Purvi from spilling the beans now, please note that it is he who will cop it in professional terms, not she. She got him into this, and now she wants to chicken out and leave him to hold the bag. What will happen to her? Nothing. She would probably have got another laurel wreath for her tyaag if Archana had not been in a coma. But what about him? If it came out that a gynaecologist had actually swapped babies, no matter is it was with the best of intentions, he would be finished professionally, and for good. It would be the same even if he was not struck off the rolls. He would never get a single patient more, not even the poor from the slums of Kolkata, who would be the first to shun him. Do you then wonder at why he does not want the baby swapping to come out? Ah, so you do grant the man with some selfish intentions? 😆 He wanted to save his own skin, his reputation, his medical practice (non-existent for now) over unqualified love for Mishti! 😉

You might want to applaud your ladli for wanting to spill the beans now in a blue funk -after all old habits die hard!😉- but I do not. I would be more inclined to take a hatchet to the wretched girl. She should have thought of all this before she bamboozled him into it - clinging to his hands, weeping all over him, Onir, aapne har waqt mera saath diya hai, ab bhi mera saath denge na? She plays him like a violin, and the benighted idiot caves in. And dooms himself to being at the mercy of this undependable, irresponsible and, as far as he is concerned, completely selfish and uncaring woman with whom he has had the misfortune to fall in love. In his place, I would also have emptied a jug of cold water over her bewigged head! I wish he had, when she suggested the baby switch! It was his duty as husband and doctor to do so.😭

As for his preemptive and decisive "no" to her sudden wish to share her wrong doing with the family, that is because that is the only way to handle a hysterical female, who bleats Onir, ab ham kya karenge? Sab kuch khatam ho gaya! Some wife to have at his side when things go wrong!
And it is not as though he does not cite any reason against the disclosure, for he does tell her that once she knows the truth, Ovi will reject Pari. That is enough to silence her. He is the strong silent type, isn't that the kind of girls those guys typically go for? 😉😆

Oh yes, the marriage, into which he 'bamboozled' her. Of course he should have let her carry on as an unwed mother in Kolkatta. The NGO would have dispensed with her services as soon as she started showing, fearing a scandal. No landlord would have rented accommodation to a 'loose woman'. Women would have sneered at her in the mohalla and assorted men would made passes at her thinking that she would be readily available. Why did it matter to him? Because he was head over heels, besottedly in love with her. He lost his reason. I am not doubting that he saved her from a fate far worse than death for which she should be eternally grateful. And that is why I think if Onir is all that he is purported to be, she needs to stick by his side, rain or shine.

Yes, Onir should have left her to face all this, in order not to be accused by you now of having 'bamboozled' her into marrying him. Of course he bamboozled her also so that he could have the incomparable delights of being dragged to Mumbai, stuck with her dysfunctional relatives, carted to the K house when Ovi kicks Purvi out of the D house and, last but not the least, sleeping on the hard floor and making her morning bed tea, and all this without any spousal benefits or rights. Yes, Shyamala, exactly, he is an "older" man in love with a chit and ready to do anything for her, right or wrong, ethics out the door. Shades of color, please! This hitherto straight and staid doctor, with no thought other than humanitarian in his head all of a sudden slips into this morass of emotions and now is overwhelmed and ready to do anything it takes to land her, whether she wants it or not, means do not matter anymore! There is a devilishly intent look in his eye, a constant plotting in his brain as how to ensnare her so that she never ever leaves his side! Just saying. 😆😳

So do enlighten me, dearest Janhvi, why would a supposedly devious Onir do all this to marry a penniless girl who neither loves him nor even cares for him, unless he happened to love her? This last was a capital mistake, but then all lovers are insane one way or the other, and why should Onir be an exception to this? No exception, but a blinding example of what not to be in a besotted lover! 😉

Now for the blackmail money that Onir manages to salvage by grabbing it while Vinay runs off. It is 3 lakhs, or USD 6000/- .Onir does not need to collar this amount to say afloat; he would have been paid 10 times that much for a short attachment to a foreign hospital, and if he wanted it, he could have made tens of lakhs with any of the big hospital chains like Apollo. But he chooses to avoid all these options, and lives on a budget so shoestring that even his mishti complains about the funds squeeze. If he so was money-minded, why would he do that, pray? So where does this new doubt about him, concerning those 3 lakhs, come from? No doubts regarding where he procured the 3 lakhs, just noting the change from his hitherto unseen attachment to money or even the awareness that money exists in this world 😆

Have I left out any of your reasons for turning a jaundiced eye on Onir ? Yes, why does he not dissuade Purvi from the baby swap. It is, I think,because, for all his talk of hamara bachcha, he does not think he has any real right to it. If it had been his kid, I do not think he would have allowed it,for then he would have had a right of refusal. Why the difference in thinking in this holier than thou art man? He should have advised her, helped her with the right decision, impartially and the thought of whether the child was his or Arjun's should not have arisen if he really was thinking of Mishti's good or for that matter Ovi's good.


Lastly, I am surprised at your being dismayed that Purvi is not in the least concerned about what not just might but, as far as she knew, was going to happen to Onir, personally and professionally. She is like that only, and has always been like that only. They talk so much of her sacrifices. What she specialises in is human sacrifice, and her score in this now stands at 2.5. Ah, that Purvi, the enemies that she has made! 😭😭

And with that, Your Honour, I rest my case!😉 Not that any of the above will stop you from peering at Onir with a giant magnifying glass looking for sins and sleaziness.😉 Fabulous case, counsel, tempted to judge in your favor but need to ascertain the facts that no card has been left unturned in the pursuit of justice.

But as I told Naava earlier, Onir is not a good candidate for a villain. Sometimes, I wish he was, and that he would become a sleek, silky, suave arch-manipulator, like Hrithik's Zafar Khan in the excellent Luck by Chance. That would be much more interesting than this goody two shoes. But Ekta has modelled what I am told is one of her favourite characters after another such, Rajat Kapur in BALH, and he is a preux chevalier to the end. So, I am convinced, will Onir be, alas!😉 And we will be subject to his endless "kaisi ho and davaa kaayi" dialogues, ain't it sad that the villains with the devilish glint manage to catch our eye more so than the seedha saadha boring types who should justifiably make a place in our hearts? Such unfortunately is the way of the world! 😆

Shyamala


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Originally posted by: sashashyam

Well, Kools, I really loved Arjun, for in some fashion I saw him the way I see my Sasha, except that Sasha would never have been so stupid. I would never have let him!😉 Now, .after all that has happened, Arjun no longer seems to be the same bright, aggressive boy I cared for, but some of the earlier fondness still lingers. It is the maternal instinct, I guess!

I never liked Purvi much, and now I do not like her at all, as much for what she is doing to Onir as for what she did to Arjun.

I like Onir a lot because I find simple, transparently good characters very appealing, even if they are also naive and foolish. I will not and cannot believe that he is in any way actuated by base motives, whence my lo..ong defence of him to Janhvi. His being so besotted with Purvi is a pity, but there is nothing to be done with it, so one has to manage it as best one can, and I would like them to settle down together and be happy in a quiet sort of way.

In the Saturday PR special, one thing was very clear, there is going to be no Arjun-Purvi renunion. The priest made Onir and Purvi do the Shiva puja together, and that, I think, is conclusive.

I wrote some time back that this would be the case because, in that initial Mahashivaratri scene in that deserted temple, Purvi prays for a man who will belong to her alone, and that can no longer be Arjun, so it has to be Onir. Ovi, on the other hand, prays specifically for Arjun, and she gets him as well.

Then again, on Saturday, I noticed that Onir and Purvi visited two houses as part of the celebrations, which no one else did, and at one place, the housewife noted that their jodi should receive the same kind of maan-samman as Manav and Archana. As Manav-Archana are the gold standard for rishtas in PR, it seems pretty clear what the official thinking on Onir-Purvi is.

Lastly, as for the rabbit and the mouse, well, both Arjun and Onir are on par for foolishness, so I felt they should be on par in your clockwork menagerie as well!😉

Shyamala


Have not watched the maha episode but glad that Onir and Purvi are being recognized as the jodi, I have given up on Arjun Purvi, my only hope there remains that Ovi realizes and atones for her past mistakes. Then. she can have my ever so reluctant blessings to go her blundering way with poor Arjun for the rest of their ...unhappy..er, freudian slip,😉 meant happy lives together.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Yes, you did, but I can always do with once more!😉 I feel exactly the same about yours, as I tell you with great regularity, as you must have noticed!

Well, if you have serious objections to Purvi being described as fat and well-fed, I don't mind attributing part of the extra avoirdupois to that voluminous Bengali saree. Happy?
She looked quite sleek in sheer black on Saturday, come to think of it.

No, 25 or even 30 would be too young for Onir. No famous doctor in India is that young. 35 would be about right, or a few years more for extra experience. He would then be at least 13 years older than Purvi, and thus well placed for, hopefully, drilling some sense into her pretty, mulish head. But seeing the besotted way in which he was looking at her when she was doing her little spiel with the press in the Saturday special episode, I am not too hopeful of his even trying to do anything on those lines. He is just a gone case where she is concerned, alas!

Janhvi, there were some very interesting pointers in the Saturday 1 hour special episode, which I saw only today. One thing seemed very clear, there is going to be no Arjun-Purvi renunion. The priest pointedly made Onir and Purvi do the Shiva puja together, and that, I think, is conclusive.

You would remember my noting, several weeks ago, when you and I were still hoping against hope that Purvi's baby would not be Arjun's, that this would be the case because, in that initial Mahashivaratri scene in that deserted temple, Purvi prays for a man who will belong to her alone, and that can no longer be Arjun, so it has to be Onir. Ovi, on the other hand, prays specifically for Arjun, and she gets him as well. You had then agreed with me on this.

This now seems to be really coming true. The priest emphasised that the lingam is a representation of both Shiva and Parvati, and that Onir and Purvi should worship the divine pair as a couple. The CVs would not have, to all practical purposes, rammed this home if they intended to break up the Onir-Purvi marriage; it would seem sacrilegious.

Then again, on Saturday, there were two imagined dances, and neither was of Arjun-Purvi, as in some Zee special last month (imagined by Arjun, not by your sanskaari ladli). I also noticed that Onir and Purvi visited two houses as part of the celebrations, whereas the others - Sulochana, Savita, and Manav - visited just one each, and Arjun and Ovi visited none. At the first place, the housewife noted that their jodi should receive the same kind of maan-sammaan as Manav and Archana. As Manav-Archana are the gold standard for rishtas in PR, it seems pretty clear what the official thinking on Onir-Purvi is.

So you see, I do not think there is going to be any appearance of a sleek, dangerous Onir. We are stuck with this goody two shoes, it seems. Pity. but there it is.

Shyamala

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Dear Vonishya,

What a pretty name! Sounds Russian, and I love Russian names, especially the pet names, so I call my son Sasha.

My dear, I have no claims to intellectualism, but I am very pleased that you like my posts. I do not write anything like as often as I used to, but I love this forum, which is an addiction I cannot shake off, try as I might, and I love the friends I have made here even more. So I keep dropping in and getting sucked in, as on this thread.

You will soon find that it will be the same with you. Welcome to the club! As it looks like PR is probably not going to pack up for another 1000 episodes, we will all be around here for a good long time!

Shyamala

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Hello Shyamala

I am new here infact brand new in pavitra rishta forum.
I just read some of the posts here and I really liked your posts.
I admire every word in your and amberjeet's posts. I am happy that I have joined. I am having fun reading the posts of really intellectual people. 👏keep inspiring.


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Jahnvi, my Janhvi, what a delightful read!

This is regardless of the fact that after the Saturday special, the whole of your case has gone out of the nearest window, as Lord Shiva will make sure Onir stays on the straight and narrow and continues to take care of his Mishti the way Manav took care of Archana. No, I am not making that up; the lady of the house, the second one Onir and Purvi visited, said precisely that to Onir. Whereupon, he placed his hand on his heart dramatically and half bowed, while his mishti looked suitably coy.

This came on top of the other and even more significant comment I had mentioned in my earlier post to you, that in the first house, the lady stated that their jodi should get the same maan sammaaan as Manav and Archana, which came as a major surprise. So there you are: Onir and Purvi are the accredited Manv-Archana II.

Just a few points, and not just to spare my poor wrist.

One, I agree completely that Onir should have reported Kundan at once. His being fired means nothing; he could have restarted his dhanda somewhere else. It is clearly a major lapse and a very bad error of judgement on his part, and much more serious than the baby-swapping.

Two, re: your The blackmailer, the baby switch, the not reporting, then this. If he makes a habit of sullying his pure shiny white saintly habit, even you Shyamala will be hard put to defend him at every turn.

I do not know what else he should have done about the blackmailer, for he could not have gone to the police and risked Purvi's secret coming out. I do not see anything more here that the loved ones of practically every kidnappee do regularly - keep the police out of the loop and deal directly with the kidnappers.

The baby switch is ill-advised but not sleazy, it would seem to be more of a donation by Purvi, with which he goes along.

As for the not reporting, that is really serious, and he should never have done it. As for my defending him at every turn, it is not a blank cheque. I wrote once earlier to you that if he did something that was, in my eyes, morally wrong, like turning a blind eye to the crimes of Mittal and Co to save his Mishti's secret, then I would wash my hands of him. It has not come to that as yet, and now it seems clear that it never will.

Three: re: your
Ah, so you do grant the man with some selfish intentions? 😆 He wanted to save his own skin, his reputation, his medical practice (non-existent for now) over unqualified love for Mishti! 😉

Saving his practice (incidentally, it is still going on after a fashion; he seems to be a consultant at the hospital where Ovi and Purvi go for their check ups) is not a selfish intention, Janhvi. If he had no practice, how would he help the poor and deserving? Moreover, I do not see how revealing the secret would be proof of his love for his wife, but rather the opposite. She never says she wants the kid back, quite the opposite.

Four: about Why the difference in thinking in this holier than thou art man? He should have advised her, helped her with the right decision, impartially and the thought of whether the child was his or Arjun's should not have arisen if he really was thinking of Mishti's good or for that matter Ovi's good.

He does try, but not forcefully, and gives in easily for the reason I had cited, that it is not his kid and so he thinks it is Purvi's sole right to decide on the matter. Of course it makes a difference whether it was his kid too or not. Do you think even that mulish and self-centred wife of his would have dared to suggest a swap if he had been the father? No, she would not.

Five:
This hitherto straight and staid doctor, with no thought other than humanitarian in his head all of a sudden slips into this morass of emotions and now is overwhelmed and ready to do anything it takes to land her, whether she wants it or not, means do not matter anymore! There is a devilishly intent look in his eye, a constant plotting in his brain as how to ensnare her so that she never ever leaves his side! Just saying. 😆😳

I only wish he was up to plotting how to keep her with him; I would think better of him. He could make a start by reclaiming the right hand side of the bed. Well, he has not come to that as yet, but he has started imagining himself dancing with her, and that is something in such a gormless goop (I know you think 'goop' is too weak, but with gormless tacked on, it should pass even your scrutiny!😉).

Last: As for his dismal lines, it seems that there is to be no reprieve. And as I suspect that Ekta is planning another 1000 episodes for PR, the only way out would be for us to put our heads together and suggest some snappy lines for our staid doc!

Shyamala



Originally posted by: soapwatcher1

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Edited by sashashyam - 12 years ago
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It all boils down to is whether a person ought to be called a criminal if he is not a seasoned one .

Well Varsha did not do any crime prior to the kidnapping . She can make the argument of 'good intentions' and 'not being basically a person who resorts gleefully to crime ' . She can make an argument saying she had good intentions ...the good intention being getting him away from Archana who in her opinion was a bad mother who neglected him shamefully .

Yet we see that Varsha has served her time .

Not everyone in PR has gone scot free for their crimes . Only the leads ...Archana and Purvi have .

Archana asked Madhuri to lie in court ...that her marraige with Dharmesh was not legal . It was a blatant crime , that perjury .

Purvi was asking Arjun to commit blatant perjury in court .

Purvi burnt office files to get back at Sachu .

Purvi used her influence with the judge to get decisions in Archana's favour when the ARMAN divorce case was on .


All these r crimes . I asked for justice when each of them was done .

Sachu had kept quiet to witnessing forged signatures . Although i had defended him then i had absolutely no problem him suffering the legal consequences ...i had however asked why Archana had suffered none for her crime .

I had no problems if Ovi was handed over to social securities if she persisted with her drinking when she was pregnant . I had myself suggested in a post this .


I would like to know if my child lived or died . Nobody has this right to keep it from me ...i would catch the collar of the person if it ever came to light .

Even swapping babies without the parents knowledge is terrible .

If the nature of the crime is compared ...the crimes like perjury , influencing judges etc were known to all who sat in or opposite in court .

The crimes r not not known and they affect lives . The choices and rights of certain individuals have been taken away .

Varsha has been punished for affecting a life . Soham too . Why not Onir ? Good intentions can be argued fabulously . Good intentions for whom ??

Onir swapped the babies not due to any good intentions ...but bcoz Purvi told him . He had personally no intention whatsoever of swapping the babies and lessening Ovi's grief . He did it coz he could not refuse Mishti anything . Mishti and his one sided love for her was his weakness .

Well , Mishti was wrong . And in listening to her and damning his professional ethics , Onir was wrong . In not saying a blunt NO he was wrong . Listening to a screwed up 19 yr old who had hitherto only lied lied and lied and made a royal mess of her life was the height of stupidity .

See Arjun's reaction upon finding the possibility that he had a baby who died . He said 'what the hell r u talking about ' . He was livid with Mittal .

The crimes started when Onir framed reports to hide Purvi's pregnancy .

It finally led to a point where he exchanged babies and did not tell the parents the truth of their dead offspring .

Varsha was not a seasoned criminal . The kidnapping was her only offence . Yet she has paid .

Soham has paid for his offences though Soham was more seasoned than Varsha .

Archana and Purvi have gone scot free .

Sachu himself did not commit the forgery but kept quiet about who did it . For that he got a resounding slap .

Onir has also commited a serious offense . It has gone way beyond the offence now ...he has been reduced to stamping out any evidence shedding light on his deed .

To hide one lie he went on a moral downfall . To hide Purvi's pregnancy it started with the mere framing up of a report which ultimately led to bigger things .

Instead he should have advised her to come clean , take the flak once and for all and join him in Kolkata as he was not going to judge her for her past .

That would have spoken volumes for the character .

Btw i don't find him either elderly or boring . I find him perfect . His 'davaiyaan lo' dialogue is the same as Arjun's 'Relax' dialogue and his age cannot be surmised ...he has an ageless quality about him . No , these r not the things i would fault him with . I fault him for agreeing to all of Purvi's nonsense .







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