Kool's Commentary : Dec 11 PR - Page 16

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Dear Tejaswini,

I am sorry you think that I am 'super insensitive". but I am afraid there is nothing I can do about it.

As for Ovi and why I dislike her character, besides the way she reacts to her baby, I also do not like her open contempt for anyone less well off than her family now is, nor the sneering way she talks of getting Dr. Onir, whom she calls a do paise ka doctor, to come to Mumbai to treat her by giving him any amount of money. Despite all this, I would be perfectly happy if she turns over a new leaf and becomes, to quote Kalapi, a glowing, expectant mother to be and wife. In fact I would be delighted to see her settling down happily with Arjun.

But as for your telling me to "stop judging as to how she should react" please let me remind you, very politely, that last I heard, it was a free forum, in which I have every right to voice my opinion so long as I do not violate the forum rules. So, forgive me if I seem obtuse, but I really do not see how you can prescribe for me what I should or should not say.

Similarly, you are at liberty to say whatever you like here subject to the norms laid down by the forum. I fully respect your right to do so, just as I respect your assessment of Ovi in the light of your own experiences in life. By the same token, I hope that in the future at least, you will accord me the same respect, and kindly refrain telling me what I should not feel or write.

Shyamala B.Cowsik



QUOTE=sashashyam]My dear Kalapi.

There is a lot in what you say in your first para; it is a very different cultural trait, and as Ovi was so successful in Canada, it must have become pronounced in her.

I would be perfectly prepared to accept an Ovi who was "shown glowing in happiness being an expectant mom and a wife to Arjun" . It is her present and past avatars that I cannot stand, and she is not even goodlooking enough to make it tolerable to watch her when she is making an exhibition of herself.

But you know, my dear, one has to take the characters and analyse them as they are, and it is no use saying that a child who missed her mother all her life (why did she feel deprived, anyway, when she had a houseful of people who all cared a lot for her -Manav, Teju, and her grandparents?) would never fail to love her child. Ovi is as she is, and she does not love her child. She never wanted it because it would have interfered with her career, as she says clearly to Archana.

And I am really sorry to differ from you on this, but attention seeking brats who throw tantrums do not inspire me with any desire to coax them into a good humour. I would reach for that slipper. Ovi should have been sent to a good boarding school, instead of being spoilt rotten at home by a trio of foolishly indulgent adults and an overprotective sister. There, the other kids would have beaten all these nakhras out of her, and that would have done her a world of good.

If she is going to continue the way she is now, it might be better for my nerves if she goes gently into the night.

Shyamala

My dear Tejaswini,

Thank you very much for that remarkably candid and emotional message. I was touched by it, and I felt bad, and wished I had not reacted so sharply earlier. I too am very sorry for having sounded so abrupt; I am normally never so, as anyone in this forum can testify, but something in the tone of your last post set me off, I do not know why.

Perhaps it was because I have seen, in the course of 38 years of professional life in several countries, so many desperately disadvantaged kids, on the streets and elsewhere, struggle hard and make it, with minimal support and very little recognition and appreciation. I have tried to do my little bit to help some of them, but it makes me weep to see how little support they get. On the other hand, it nowadays seems to be the fashion to 'understand' spoilt rich kids who cosh old people for fun, drug addicts, alcoholics and otherwise dysfunctional characters, and a great deal of sympathy and empathy is lavished on them, and efforts are made to 'reform' them.

Ovi seems to me to embody a milder variant of this, a poor little rich girl archetype, and so I find it very difficult to dredge up any sympathy for her. As I wrote earlier, it is not just the baby, it is her invariably contemptuous attitude to the less well placed in life, and this when she has nothing by way of real achievement to her credit, other than standing around in fine(?) clothes made by others. Maybe I am old fashioned and out of date, but I value good manners, and honest effort, and some compassion in a person's makeup.

But none of this had or has anything to do with you, or the very real troubles that you have faced in your own life. You were emotionally handicapped, and so I can understand your reacting the way you did, and I am very, very happy for you that everything turned out so well in the end.

Ovi is not in the same situation as you were, and a lot of her troubles are of her own making or of those who love her to excess. Nonetheless, I do hope we have a happy ending in PR in 2 months, with the kind of scenario I have described in my message to Kalapi: one huge happy family grouping and two healthy, chubby babies and their happy moms.

I am sure your new baby, when it arrives, will be as much of a joy to you both as your older son. Take care, my dear, and God bless. I am surely much older than you are, so blessings would be entirely in order!😉

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Originally posted by: tejaswiniwenham

Dear Shyamala,

I am sorry for seeming like i was telling you what to think. absolutely wasnt my intention. I have been as of late very emotional about pregnancies and my own past experiences. ovi definitely has her shortcomings in abundance. all i meant was in regards to her current situation it can be hard to be happy about something when your just unhappy in life. nothing else. im sorry for seeming rude, it really was not my intention. please forgive this overly emotional and sensitive pregnant girl.

Teju

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Dear Tejaswini,

I am sorry you think that I am 'super insensitive". but I am afraid there is nothing I can do about it.

As for Ovi and why I dislike her character, besides the way she reacts to her baby, I also do not like her open contempt for anyone less well off than her family now is, nor the sneering way she talks of getting Dr. Onir, whom she calls a do paise ka doctor, to come to Mumbai to treat her by giving him any amount of money. Despite all this, I would be perfectly happy if she turns over a new leaf and becomes, to quote Kalapi, a glowing, expectant mother to be and wife. In fact I would be delighted to see her settling down happily with Arjun.

But as for your telling me to "stop judging as to how she should react" please let me remind you, very politely, that last I heard, it was a free forum, in which I have every right to voice my opinion so long as I do not violate the forum rules. So, forgive me if I seem obtuse, but I really do not see how you can prescribe for me what I should or should not say.

Similarly, you are at liberty to say whatever you like here subject to the norms laid down by the forum. I fully respect your right to do so, just as I respect your assessment of Ovi in the light of your own experiences in life. By the same token, I hope that in the future at least, you will accord me the same respect, and kindly refrain telling me what I should not feel or write.

Shyamala B.Cowsik



QUOTE=sashashyam]My dear Kalapi.

There is a lot in what you say in your first para; it is a very different cultural trait, and as Ovi was so successful in Canada, it must have become pronounced in her.

I would be perfectly prepared to accept an Ovi who was "shown glowing in happiness being an expectant mom and a wife to Arjun" . It is her present and past avatars that I cannot stand, and she is not even goodlooking enough to make it tolerable to watch her when she is making an exhibition of herself.

But you know, my dear, one has to take the characters and analyse them as they are, and it is no use saying that a child who missed her mother all her life (why did she feel deprived, anyway, when she had a houseful of people who all cared a lot for her -Manav, Teju, and her grandparents?) would never fail to love her child. Ovi is as she is, and she does not love her child. She never wanted it because it would have interfered with her career, as she says clearly to Archana.

And I am really sorry to differ from you on this, but attention seeking brats who throw tantrums do not inspire me with any desire to coax them into a good humour. I would reach for that slipper. Ovi should have been sent to a good boarding school, instead of being spoilt rotten at home by a trio of foolishly indulgent adults and an overprotective sister. There, the other kids would have beaten all these nakhras out of her, and that would have done her a world of good.

If she is going to continue the way she is now, it might be better for my nerves if she goes gently into the night.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: Kalapi

Hey Kool, did you like Barfi? I loved it for it was so simple in its presentation with such a positive undertone, without going overboard. I almost compared it to the likes of Satyajit Ray or Mrinal Sen as a cinema. Loved the use of the folk dance, the vibrancy and Ranvir's and Priyanka's acting. The movie reminded me of a polish movie based on Nazi Germany which own the Oscar (foreign films) long time back "Life is Beautiful". If you can get a hold of the DVD, do watch, I think you will love it too

You like Life is beautiful😊.I loved that movie especially the first part. I was a bit sad at the end😭 Barfi is awesome👍🏼Ranbir and Priyanka were so good in that movie👏 I haven't watched any Satyajit Rai movies but I read Pother Pechali.

One thing which i have realised over the years - dont try to find parallels between your life and whats shown on screen. You will end up breaking some china for the effort outof sheer irritation.

I think from now on be prepared to see the difference between the (a)sanskari ovi and pavitra purvi to be shoved down your throat with zero subtlety. There is no redeeming quality that will ever be shown in ovi. Its pretty obvious, ovi who never had the drinking love has suddenly developed it bang in the middle of the pregnancy. And no one can defend her for such an outrageous action.

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Amen to that bips . Can sumone tell me what happened . Did Sanskaari Purvi and her obedient lover finally meet .

Na na... When that happens, the entire srishti will shake with the emoshuns of the pavitra pyaar.

Btw, why are you not watching? I am missing your commentary. The fun in pr is the fun i have here. Without it... Well, its kind of lame

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

yes kalapi i liked it . liked English Vinglish and Talaash too . Very slick movies nowdays . Not flashy like before and more realistic . Cinema taking a new turn .

so true Ovi's words from previous episodes...

Even i liked English Vinglish ...the husband in it was so self satisfied ... obviously thought he was doing 'pati ka farz' coz he provided .