Kool's Commentary : Dec 11 PR - Page 15

Originally posted by: Dabulls23

Playing wedding wedding makes one married than by the same logic when one plays doctor doctor would they also become doctor 😉😛Playing teacher teacher one becomes Professor 😆 I guess no one needs to go to college and study for the profession than...Just play away 😉

There is a lot in what you say in your first para; it is a very different cultural trait, and as Ovi was so successful in Canada, it must have become pronounced in her.

I would be perfectly prepared to accept an Ovi who was "shown glowing in happiness being an expectant mom and a wife to Arjun" . It is her present and past avatars that I cannot stand, and she is not even goodlooking enough to make it tolerable to watch her when she is making an exhibition of herself.

But you know, my dear, one has to take the characters and analyse them as they are, and it is no use saying that a child who missed her mother all her life (why did she feel deprived, anyway, when she had a houseful of people who all cared a lot for her -Manav, Teju, and her grandparents?) would never fail to love her child. Ovi is as she is, and she does not love her child. She never wanted it because it would have interfered with her career, as she says clearly to Archana.

And I am really sorry to differ from you on this, but attention seeking brats who throw tantrums do not inspire me with any desire to coax them into a good humour. I would reach for that slipper. Ovi should have been sent to a good boarding school, instead of being spoilt rotten at home by a trio of foolishly indulgent adults and an overprotective sister. There, the other kids would have beaten all these nakhras out of her, and that would have done her a world of good.

If she is going to continue the way she is now, it might be better for my nerves if she goes gently into the night.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: sashashyam

My dear Kalapi.

There is a lot in what you say in your first para; it is a very different cultural trait, and as Ovi was so successful in Canada, it must have become pronounced in her.

I would be perfectly prepared to accept an Ovi who was "shown glowing in happiness being an expectant mom and a wife to Arjun" . It is her present and past avatars that I cannot stand, and she is not even goodlooking enough to make it tolerable to watch her when she is making an exhibition of herself.

But you know, my dear, one has to take the characters and analyse them as they are, and it is no use saying that a child who missed her mother all her life (why did she feel deprived, anyway, when she had a houseful of people who all cared a lot for her -Manav, Teju, and her grandparents?) would never fail to love her child. Ovi is as she is, and she does not love her child. She never wanted it because it would have interfered with her career, as she says clearly to Archana.

And I am really sorry to differ from you on this, but attention seeking brats who throw tantrums do not inspire me with any desire to coax them into a good humour. I would reach for that slipper. Ovi should have been sent to a good boarding school, instead of being spoilt rotten at home by a trio of foolishly indulgent adults and an overprotective sister. There, the other kids would have beaten all these nakhras out of her, and that would have done her a world of good.

If she is going to continue the way she is now, it might be better for my nerves if she goes gently into the night.

Shyamala

Shyamala i understand how it must be for someone standing outside to judge ovi's lack of care for her baby. but its super insensitive to say that you want to hurt her cos she doesnt react to pregnancy and her husband as you may want her to.

let me tell you from personal experience that boarding school does not help. when two most trusted ppl in your life- aai and hubby dont give a rats a*se about you- it hurts and you do what you can to maximise that attention. and also not all mothers welcome pregnancies and just cos your not happy about it does not mean you want to kill your baby. infact during my own pregnancy i felt alone and agitated rather than really glad about my pregnancy. ovi is in the exact same position as me. i did not love my baby whilst pregnant...he made me feel alone and uncared for. i love him more than god now. would kill for him. also i did throw a tantrum all the time for my mum and hub's attention. you know what? non of that affected my baby now or my stepson or the baby inside me right now cos my husband was there for me and understood me and made up for all the lacking in me as i did for him. if you havent been in her position stop judging as to how she shud react pls. its easy to think your baby shud b everything and you shud feel like a ma from day 1. dat doesnt happen to everyone.

Thank you

Teju

Originally posted by: tejaswiniwenham

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Shyamala i understand how it must be for someone standing outside to judge ovi's lack of care for her baby. but its super insensitive to say that you want to hurt her cos she doesnt react to pregnancy and her husband as you may want her to.

let me tell you from personal experience that boarding school does not help. when two most trusted ppl in your life- aai and hubby dont give a rats a*se about you- it hurts and you do what you can to maximise that attention. and also not all mothers welcome pregnancies and just cos your not happy about it does not mean you want to kill your baby. infact during my own pregnancy i felt alone and agitated rather than really glad about my pregnancy. ovi is in the exact same position as me. i did not love my baby whilst pregnant...he made me feel alone and uncared for. i love him more than god now. would kill for him. also i did throw a tantrum all the time for my mum and hub's attention. you know what? non of that affected my baby now or my stepson or the baby inside me right now cos my husband was there for me and understood me and made up for all the lacking in me as i did for him. if you havent been in her position stop judging as to how she shud react pls. its easy to think your baby shud b everything and you shud feel like a ma from day 1. dat doesnt happen to everyone.

Thank you

Teju

There is a lot in what you say in your first para; it is a very different cultural trait, and as Ovi was so successful in Canada, it must have become pronounced in her.

I would be perfectly prepared to accept an Ovi who was "shown glowing in happiness being an expectant mom and a wife to Arjun" . It is her present and past avatars that I cannot stand, and she is not even goodlooking enough to make it tolerable to watch her when she is making an exhibition of herself.

But you know, my dear, one has to take the characters and analyse them as they are, and it is no use saying that a child who missed her mother all her life (why did she feel deprived, anyway, when she had a houseful of people who all cared a lot for her -Manav, Teju, and her grandparents?) would never fail to love her child. Ovi is as she is, and she does not love her child. She never wanted it because it would have interfered with her career, as she says clearly to Archana.

And I am really sorry to differ from you on this, but attention seeking brats who throw tantrums do not inspire me with any desire to coax them into a good humour. I would reach for that slipper. Ovi should have been sent to a good boarding school, instead of being spoilt rotten at home by a trio of foolishly indulgent adults and an overprotective sister. There, the other kids would have beaten all these nakhras out of her, and that would have done her a world of good.

If she is going to continue the way she is now, it might be better for my nerves if she goes gently into the night.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: Kalapi

Shyamala dear, Ovi is behaving as such because she wants attention from Arjun, as Archana said herself today. Ovi has been shown a tad bit arrogant, but pardon me; I don't find it unnatural for a supermodel, raised in a country where blowing your own trumpet is taught early in life. In fact, Indians who migrate to this great country, fails quite a bit because of their inability to do just that. We are taught more humility than is needed for our success here, where cut throat competition takes many form. To me as I have said many time, Ovi turn to be a more real characters than the leads of the show.

Anyway, no one knows if Ovi could turn around if she gets the attention that she so desperately want (except Cv) She has been rejected a lot and has ended up being the second best. That could drive any girl mad. Of course, Cvs are trying hard to destroy her character, but they have never showed her to drink before nor being cruel or a bad human being. Even though she was rude with Archana before, but who couldn't, knowing that her mother walked out on them. She needs to be the priority in Archana and Arjun's now and she could turn around a different leaf(of course, Cvs could even kill her character, who knows). Her behavior towards her own child doesn't match up simply because Teju said that she missed their mother more than anything. A child, who missed her mother so much, can't be a bad mother herself. Of course, the whole track is to simply to glorify Purvi and show a contrast even if it distasteful and unbelievable.

But, the question is, could a section of the audience be able to accept if Ovi is shown glowing in happiness being an expectant mom and a wife to Arjun, it is the same carrot our honorable Cvs dangles in front of his audience ... even at the expense of making the show unbelievable...

Originally posted by: Kalapi

Shymala dearest,

I think it is futile for me to convince you or even portray to you how I see the character of Ovi. No matter, how many real life examples I give you claiming that kids were inadvertently hurt emotionally due the follies of the parents (as a result of sheer negligence on their part, divorce or death), I will fail, as these will not be cases you know intimately as I do. Besides, for an Arvi, it is easier to make Ovi into a villain, than look inside, because then too many devils will be revealed if they do.

Let me give you a funny example (although my hubby thought very much otherwise). Recently my son lost 15% of his grade as he failed to submit a homework on time. The homework was to be completed within a week. When it was revealed in his grade, he blamed us saying that since he missed class one day of that week (having fun in the temple for kali Pujo with us) he couldn't submit his HW on time. Had he gone to school that particular Tuesday, he could definitely complete the 1 page homework during recess. As I said, my husband thought it was anything but funny.

Anyway back to our dear Arvi and their mess, well Onir will soon turn negative too, if Arvi were to be united, many Arvian are already stated their chemistry is that of a sibling. Besides, could Arvian accept a glowing and fulfilled happiness in Ovi? I don't think so, beside then can the Cvs dangle that carrot and keep Arvian glued to the serial? Besides, many people can't stand the actress or even the good job she does because she is just Ovi. I have seen that too for Savita, when she came between Arman. But, as I have said before, for some reason, I end up on the wrong side of an argument. Anyway, my actual take on some of the actresses are a bit different too in this case.

Edited by sashashyam - 12 years ago

Oh Shymala darling,

We are both very obstinate people in the forum😉, not to mention countless others, who don't seem to see other's POV. I think that is the only the reason so many members spend endless hours getting their point through, when all knows we hardly can control the CVs, who terminal lack something called intelligence. I blame my argumentative nature to my very bong upbringing, Bengalis are one argumentative lot😃. Sometimes, I wish the producers picked some of the great Indian novels and recreated them into a serial, but then, I know that they will mess it up so bad and outrageously, that I thank heavens they are blissfully unaware of the treasure that India has, even in the romantic genre.

To tell you the truth I am getting damn tired of defending Ovi, when I know the Cvs are showing the track in a very one-dimensional way. In fact, I am of the opinion that if the Cvs really want to develop Ovi's character, they will mess it up big time, the way they have messed up Manav's, Archana's, Savita's, Sanskari Purvi"s (who in her challenge to reinstate Archana's into the workforce, was rather selfish with the other workers, or dealing with mature matters that were hardly age appropriate for her) or Arjun's (whose true love made him a puppet in the hands of his sweetheart). Ovi was shown as a super-model, now I feel Cvs settle on this profession of her coz of course, the age old stigma that Indians have of women in such professions. So, we see that she is portrayed as rude and self-centered, when in truth, modeling is a highly competitive profession that requires dedication, professionalism, ethics and work commitments and especially challenging as it caters to the customers with their appearance, any small failures on their part shows them the doors. Funny, the Cvs only love to play with old and popular Indian sentiments instead of going outside the box.

I think Shruthi does a great job, she has come a long way and has grown into her role very well. I think she has tucked a great professional achievement in her portrayal of a negative character, and I feel she does have a bright career ahead of her, since portraying a negative character needs a certain amount of finesse and the amount of hate she has inspired in the audience does say a lot about her character and achievement. I do find her beautiful too, although I will say, she and a few others including Asha needs a training in voice modulation (just to re-emphasize here, this is constructive criticism, so as not to a get a warning).

But, something else that I was impressed recently in a thread here in this forum, and I wanted to see member's opinion of what I was thinking (especially for you dear, since it is a positive prediction of Onir😃). I saw a poll between Arjun and Onir and Onir seems to be only a tad bit behind of Arjun in terms of possible jodi popularity now by maybe 10%. Very impressive, simply because this character was only introduced about a week or two ago, and much more importantly there wasn't the conventional bolly song/rainy scene romantic "shirt ka button' songs to declare his/Purvi as a romantic Jodi. Do you all think that Ekta's strategy was this brilliant stroke to have Purvi settled in with a loving husband and then start on a Arjun/Ovi's relation (as a member already predicted will happen next somewhere –sorry, can't remember where I read it)? I mean Ekta does understand her audience psychology very well then, that it is easier to accept Purvi's with a loving husband then with Ovi (coz of her past history) happy with Arjun before them. I am curious to know, if this is her 'brilliant stroke'. Besides, Purvi's baby kicking at the same time as Ovi's could mean they are going through the same pregnancy stage – I mean even for an 'all male' Cvs (my conclusion as the kicking seen was absolutely hilarious, so either all male, or female with no experience in pregnancies) could mean Arjun isn't the father of both babies, although Purvi getting preggo so soon after moving to Kolkata is questionable, but, then when did the Cvs claim they were good in math 🤔.

Yes, maybe Ekta is not thinking of an Arvi union after all (which right now can only be too distasteful for quite a few audience, including me), but rather 2 couple with, as you say, happy chuckling toothless "Johnson babies" in the arm of glowing moms around a happy family portrait, for I can't imagine any other storyline not shown already in Arman that Cvs can come up with after Arvi's reunion. Besides, killing off Ovi or her baby doesn't really make for a happy reunion of Arvi (at least, that is what I think). Oh well we will have to wait and watch😃

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Guys i saw Barfi yesterday . Kalapi iremembered u when i saw Kolkata .