PR Today: What a Mess

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Posted: 13 years ago
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"God grant me the Strength to accept the things I cannot change. Courage---to change the things I can. And the Wisdom to know the difference. Amen."
After a very long hiatus from the forum I am amazed and appalled at the posts I am reading here regarding the latest mess the CV's have decided to introduce in this show. Jay- in that I agree with you my friend- the PR CV's are certainly one of a kind- and their ideas and "creative writing" too utterly bizarre to even attempt to make sense of.
*sighs* let us look at the straightforward facts.
1) Ovi married Arjun knowing fully well that he does not love her. He made that crystal clear. What happened before during engagement, Canada, etc. is all irrelevant. Again, Ovi married Arjun with the full knowledge he does not love her. Newton's law folks: Every action has a reaction. It is what it is. You reap what you sow, and you have to face the consequences of the decisions you make. I dont remember who but someone wrote a post saying you have to be able to face the situation bravely and honestly, as well as responsibly and figure out how to make the best of it. 100% correct. Trying to harm your baby in this manner is the most irresponsible, unforgivable thing you can do. It is a crime against GOD to do this- I dont care how young and immature you are. To be honest, as a mother myself, this makes me utterly sick with grief. Shame on the CVs on a show with this title to treat this so lightly. And shame on anyone who would defend the actions of this immature brat, no matter what the motive, of doing what she did. There is no justification for this- period.
2) Arjun married Ovi knowing he did not love her, and at the behest of Purvi. The stupidest thing to do and biggest mistake of his life. The cost of this particular stupid action is the happiness of 3 people. Yes, he is my "ladla" and always will be. But facts are facts. And I will be the first to say I am disappointed and disgusted with him for going through with this marriage. He didnt have to listen to his foolish love, but he did. And he is paying the price. It is what it is. However the major difference between him and Ovi is that he is facing, bravely, the bleak future in front of him. As my dear Shyamala said (you cant imagine how much I have missed you--especially here!) it is obvious Arjun does care about this child. He does not love Ovi, and will be forever tied to this female once he shares a child with her---but is not taking that out on the child is he?
3) Purvi did not have to fall into the emotional trap of Ovi, without a thought for Arjun or his emotions or happiness, and strike a deal with Ovi. With this pregnancy track, that she could do this after sharing that kind of experience with the man she loves and is about to marry---then turn around and browbeat him into marrying someone else is beyond me. This madness makes the CV's of the soap operas in the United States naive and innocent by comparison. Good grief.
And they are pretty liberal in the "scenes" and "storylines" believe me. I have no idea what to make or think of this. It is beyond my ken and I admit it.
Arjun cannot stop loving Purvi anymore than he can stop breathing and keep on living anyway. It is a fact. No matter the justification, motive, history, you name it- she has his heart and always will. Nothing to be done about that. Ovi was warned continuously against the folly of marrying a man who is clearly in love with someone else. She wanted him at any cost. Well here is the cost.
The price is hers to pay. Not the little one's. Nobody is driving her to anything. As human beings, we all have choices---including her.
Let's play Devil's Advocate for a minute. Let's assume that, despite Arjun's concern for it, this baby is not able to make Arjun forget Purvi, or strengthen the bond between him and Ovi. Ovi has 2 choices.
1) Choose to not go through with the pregnancy and do the needful at the very early stage---NOT at 5 1/2 months, when the baby is formed enough to feel pain. If you do NOT have the maturity to be a mother then dont be one. This is not a toy. it is a real live human being. With its own feelings. Being a parent is NOT easy. Such is life. It may mean sleepless nights, frustration, lack of certain freedoms, etc. Things are definitely not going to be the way you want them all the time- especially when it comes to a child. I am frightened and sick to my stomach to even think of what kind of mother Ovi will be- what cruelty she is capable of. If whether or not Arjun loves her the way she wants or dances to her tunes the way she wants is her criteria for how she treats the baby, I can feel the cold chills and immeasurable grieft as a mother myself in my body right now.
2) Look forward to the baby for itself. You are a mother and that is your child- growing within you. It is not about Arjun or anyone else. It is about this little living breathing cute human being that you are going to bring into this world. Love it and care for it----for itself irrespective of anyone else. What anyone else does or feels towards you is immaterial. Your husband doesnt love you. Ok. But God just gave you the unexpected blessing of someone who definitely will.
I cannot abide defending Ovi on any level for her actions- for any reason on this earth. The entire blame is squarely on her shoulders for what she did today----not Arjuns or anyone elses. Nothing should be able to drive a person to harm a child . Period. There is no justification on this earth for that.
Enough said.

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Huma- thumbnail
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Posted: 13 years ago
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finally Archu Di is back on IF

Di Bang on post 👏

I totally agree with u..Esp wht u said about Baby im not a mother but still as a women i can say this Ur baby shld be ur 1st priority how can u try to harm ur Baby no matter wht situation is.. only mentally ill person can do this is & Dats wht ovi is she needs Doc help ASAP...

One thing more people say Arjun shld divorce her y cant she ask For divorce she is the one who is not happy na ?? barbie doll ji get a divorce im sure u will get new life partner soon As u r young n " ONLY 19" 😉


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Awesome post, Arch.
I too shudder to think to what level she can go to hurt Arjun, just bcos that baby is precious to Arjun.

Dumping alcolhol on that baby in the womb. God! What a shameless woman she is.
If she cannot love her own baby, what will she love anyone else? She cannot love anyone. For her, its only about her. Mean and selfish person.

Her and only her to blame for every mess in her life, no one else.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Ovi is mentall ill she needs proffesional help..
No pity on her but I feel so bad for the baby already not wanted before even being born😭
The baby could be born with birth defects which would be really sad and it would break Arjuns heart, whether or not it is his kid he loves that baby.. I think he has a love for children in general..

All three are recieving karma but in the midst an innocent baby is suffering... Why Ekta why...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: bee5

Awesome post, Arch.
I too shudder to think to what level she can go to hurt Arjun, just bcos that baby is precious to Arjun.

Dumping alcolhol on that baby in the womb. God! What a shameless woman she is.
If she cannot love her own baby, what will she love anyone else? She cannot love anyone. For her, its only about her. Mean and selfish person.

Her and only her to blame for every mess in her life, no one else.


Thanks Bee...and I totally agree. As a mother the fact that anyone would justify this with Arjun's actions and behavior hurts my heart. I cannot condone this. I've seen so many single mothers who love their children--the actions of the father or lack thereof are totally irrelevant when it comes to the child.
And we are here bashing Arjun for this. Ridiculous.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Well said Arch!!! 👏 Especially loved the prayer - Amen!

There are so many factors at play here and while this web gets even more tangled everyone is responsible for their own grief and how they each deal with it.

Arjun - I feel really bad for him as he is trying to make the best of the situation. He cannot give Ovi the love she wants but he is trying to do his duties as a husband. He cares about her well being. He even called to check up on her when he got to Calcutta. True he is not fawning all over his wife as she must have wanted but how can he when it was she who ruined his life? He is still trying - that's what counts!

Purvi - she made a deal with the devil and it ruined three lives in the process of greater good. "The road to hell is paved with good intentions" and all that. What could she have done differently to make the situation better? Honestly not much so leaving was the only option. In this case absence did make the heart grow fonder :(

Ovi - How can you control someone's right to love? You can't - no matter who you are. I cannot accept any justification where its ok for her to hurt her own child. None! She knows right from wrong and what she's doing is of her OWN accord not anyone else to blame. She opted to have this child thinking it would be the magic to make Arjun's heart turn from Purvi. Savita was not wrong because for some people I'm sure this method has worked but it's flawed advice. You should never bargain with the life of an innocent for your own selfish gains. A mother's responsibility, first and foremost, is to love, nurture and protect her child. If SHE harms this baby how can anyone in good conscience say it was the fault of a third party?

Many things go wrong in life but your character is forged from how well you handle the situation. If you try to look for the positive solution and try to life an honest life people will respect you. If you are always negative and look for the spiteful way of doing things, how can you ever hope to endear people to you?

On a side note that I found so apt for this - Did you know that according to Obi-Want-To-Knowbi (aka Google) Ovi may need to memorize this prayer as it has been adopted by AA and other 12 Step Programs 😉
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I was shocked to hear the advise coming from Savita, that too at her age and wisdom she should have attained!

She says, "Arjun's head is full of Purvi. This way (ref:baby) you can bring him closer to you". Further she continues, "This boy-girl (ref:Arjun-Purvi) love is not a lasting one, the lasting one is the one that comes from marriage."

At this point, I was shocked beyond myself to hear what the elderly lady had to say.

Further, she goes on to quote her own marriage as an example as the lasting one.

This lady forgot how her granddaughter got her husband? She thought boy and girl's love wasn't lasting? Why? If her grand daughter did not go to Purvi with her sick deal, that boy-girl marriage would've definitely had happened and would have lasted very well.
Anyway, there is no need to say more on Savita, we have seen it all.

But, a girl believing such advise was headed for doom, as she did 9 months back in Canada when she listened to her grand mothers advise to invoke jealously in a man to bring him close to her.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Welcome back Arch. Awesome post!!! And a resounding Amen to that bit of wisdom.
I have said this many times... but I reiterate my point today...

Ovi is old enough to know what love is, she is old enough to know "I want to get married", she is old enough to know that she wants a marriage, old enough to model and have a career, old enough to want want and want Arjun, she is old enough to rule her own father and disrepect others.
That also means she is old enough to know the difference between right and wrong. To know when a man doesnt love you - that doesnt change over night. To know that using your own child as a weapon against your husband is never a good idea, to know that time and understanding is needed to make a marriage work (not ridicule and sarcasm).

OVI is responsible for OVI! It is time to stop playing the blame game. What Arjun did pre-marriage is over and done with. Ovi knew what she was getting into at the marriage stage. She knew that Arjun was/is in love with someone else. She cannot say she was tricked. She KNEW. She cannot blame Manav and Archana either (YES - they should have been responsible parents and adults, but they were not! Now, Im not sure how much that will change) But... the time for blaming them solely is gone too... for she started making desicions as an adult and now she has to live as one.
Im appalled at her actions towards her own child. When a woman becomes a mother, she supposedly loves that child more than anyone else, more than her HUSBAND and most times more than HERSELF. Unfortunately... it seems as if Ovi still loves no one but herself.

With all that said... I agree completely on ur statement below and 2nd it:

I cannot abide defending Ovi on any level for her actions- for any reason on this earth. The entire blame is squarely on her shoulders for what she did today----not Arjuns or anyone elses. Nothing should be able to drive a person to harm a child . Period. There is no justification on this earth for that.
Edited by Ashlaika - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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RESERVED !! Imight as well reserve my spot now !! Be back later with my funda :):)

I see that I have 6 'likes' when I dont write anything !! 😆... Is that a hint to me.. 😊
But, u cannot escape my funda !! 😡... Kidding guys...Here u go..

Archana dear, I agree totally. This is the messiest best of the Cv's so far. They haven't and cannot go lower than this I feel. They could have reunited Arjun and Purvi so beautifully if they had gone the way they were doing. But, alas, it was too much to ask, looks like. The downfall started with the disastrous Ovi wedding and it went downhill from there... Once that deed was done, a very bad decision on their part, they just couldn't figure a decent way of revival, so went for the worst. I think they hope the shock value of such topics will increase their TRP's. Anyway, this is what we are dealt with so let us see how bad/worse it can get. I just hope they spare the babies in this mess.

Arjun is paying for one of his biggest follies of his life, for loving a girl to such an extent that he let her dictate his life, and lead him into this disastrous marriage for the sake of her own motive of seeing her mother happy. Despite many posts that I read nowadays, I do not agree that Arjun is not trying to be true to his marriage. He is doing the best he can under the circumstances. Yes, he came back to Ovi to try again, on the saying of Purvi... I get that.. he has been railroaded by Purvi again and again. But, why is he blamed that he is not giving his best to the marriage? He has not hidden his feelings for Purvi from Ovi, it should not be a surprise to anyone, including Ovi. In this regard, he has always been upfront with her about it. He has told her several times that he needs Ovi's help in moving along. He always meant what he said. It is, she, who didnt get it !! He is plauged by memories of Purvi for she was the love of his life and had expected to spend the rest of his life with her with great dreams and aspirations. Despite all this, he is trying to live a normal life with Ovi. He is happy that they are having a child, isn't he? He is concerned about the baby's safety and Ovi's. He has been a demonstrative husband for all it counts, and has acknowledged her publicly too. And, yet, Arjun still gets blamed..WHY?

In this game, is Ovi not at fault at all? She came into this willingly, not once, but twice. He did say it would take time, but she didn't take that seriously, did she.. She listens to her Aaji and assumes that since she agreed to have the baby, Arjun would toe the line immediately. she needs to listen to her Aaji, however ill advised... She was advised to have the baby that "in time, things will resolve"...Her sense of time is kind of short, isnt it.. She in fact, admits to Arjun today about it. And, complains that she has it all but does not have his love !! He never said she would, did he? Arjun was very right today, when he told Ovi.."u got what u wanted. u wanted to marry me, u did. u decided to keep the baby and you have it. so why blame others?"

Ovi wants it ALL. But, she forgets one thing in this whole big mess she created. It is a two way street. You cannot make his life miserable, treat his baby like a commodity, abuse the baby she is carrying by consuming alchohol, cause harm to the baby and expect Arjun to have any respect for her. She is causing him more unhappiness and driving home the point again and again of the life he missed having with Purvi by doing all this. IF she had given him a normal happy life, maybe, Arjun would have started developing respect and ultimately some feelings towards her. He may not forget Purvi altogether, but might have been able to move along in the true sense in time.

I detest the fact that she does not care a pin for the baby. It is her baby, after all. Is she so consumed by her self-pity that she has no feelings or empathy left for the tiny life that she is carrying within her? Does she not realize the harm she is causing the baby in trying to get back at Arjun by drinking alchohol? Is she that juvenile that she wants to antagonize and take revenge on Arjun by harming the baby? I hope that is not a suicide attempt that we saw today. For, that would be unforgivable of her to do that to the baby. I sincerely, hope not. It is not her hormones that is causing her to create havoc, it is her disappointment and rage at having finally realized that even after having Purvi out of their lives, Arjun will never fully love her the way he loves Purvi. That is what has hit her now and her bitterness stems from. She is now facing the true reality of what she should have seen a long time ago. But, alas, she made a mess of her own life all by herself.

Edited by jdronamraju - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Hi Arch welcome back dear..Nice to see u back 😊
Well Arch ,I will say that the blame entire goes to - PR CV's/Ekta.
This show is not PR anymore its something else.
Ekta thrives on showing abortions,probable affairs,multiple marriages and what not.
I have no idea why was the leap of 6 months needed in first place as though to show things have changed.I dont see anything getting changed.Only thing changed is viewers treated with more headache with such senseless tracks.
There are various ways to re-unite Arvi (if they plan on doing so ,well I am not sure what exactly they want to do anyway) but bringing in pregnancy track and baby killing (looks to be the case in Ovi's pregnancy) is just appalling.The disgusting way its shown of a baby been ignored and hurt by psychotic means like alcohol and the negligence is too sicking to say the least.
OF course this is PR n Ekta's show where babies/Kids have used like use and throw polices and not been given a damn ,so cant expect anything less from Ekta/CV's.
The writers of this show are suppose to be normal people living in the chawls ,to bring in that middle class touch.What kind of normalcy touch is this.There is nothing normal here ,everything is abnormal and disgusting now.
Zee needs to send Ekta ,PR CV's/Writers of this show for some medical help to clear their clouted brains and have mercy on viewers and the actors n end this show on a decent note with a re-union before there comes a situation where they are forced to end this senseless show due to ground zero trp's. I am not sure on what basis do they expect trp's tp go up with such senseless crap.Even God would not be able to decipher this complicated confused brains of the writers/CV's of this show.
Edited by Jaishankar - 13 years ago

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