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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: NadaCinta

Dear Xoxoarvi


I fully agree with Shyamala. The Arjun and Purvi we all once fell in loved with is no more. The CVs have killed them.

Now our dear Mahanta is once again going to speak to Arjun regarding Arjun and Ovi's distance. Does she not realise that she should either keep away from such topic or interfere between a H&W relationship. Purvi is shown as a very dumb person nowadays. Meanwhile, how on earth can she trust whatever Punni says after what she went through. Her character has been butchered so badly that it is beyond repair.

Sorry to say this although it hurts me a lot and I'm sure it will also hurt you, but after seeing today's episode especially Arjun and Ovi's closeness, the chances are that the CVs might go ahead with the pregnancy track but maybe with Ovi only.

Once again sorry and please don't bash me for it.

Hey Dear,
Shymala Aunty is right.
I really want Purvi to drop this mahaantha act it is really annoying. Cant she focus on her own life.. Purvi is really dumb when it come to judging people. But I have to give it to her she is very intelligent when it comes to office work. She needs to realize what she excels in is in her professional life so she should give more atention to her job. She would be tough competition if she started her own company or something..
I didnt watch todays episode yet but Read the update... the less I saw on it the better,,,
Cv's have already butchered Purvi's character and now they are doing the same with Arjun..
Hope the new entry of the guju family will bring some positivty... Anything but this trackk..
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Posted: 13 years ago
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You're right dear. Even I wish the same for Purvi but what is in store for us from Arjun and her are yet to be known. The less said about them is better as it will not hurt us much.

Let's see what the guju track has for us. There is going to be 2 love track i.e. Sachin's and Teju's. With this, they may divert the current triangle track between Arjun-Purvi and Ovi.

QUOTE=xoxoarvi]

Originally posted by: NadaCinta

Dear Xoxoarvi


I fully agree with Shyamala. The Arjun and Purvi we all once fell in loved with is no more. The CVs have killed them.

Now our dear Mahanta is once again going to speak to Arjun regarding Arjun and Ovi's distance. Does she not realise that she should either keep away from such topic or interfere between a H&W relationship. Purvi is shown as a very dumb person nowadays. Meanwhile, how on earth can she trust whatever Punni says after what she went through. Her character has been butchered so badly that it is beyond repair.

Sorry to say this although it hurts me a lot and I'm sure it will also hurt you, but after seeing today's episode especially Arjun and Ovi's closeness, the chances are that the CVs might go ahead with the pregnancy track but maybe with Ovi only.

Once again sorry and please don't bash me for it.

Hey Dear,
Shymala Aunty is right.
I really want Purvi to drop this mahaantha act it is really annoying. Cant she focus on her own life.. Purvi is really dumb when it come to judging people. But I have to give it to her she is very intelligent when it comes to office work. She needs to realize what she excels in is in her professional life so she should give more atention to her job. She would be tough competition if she started her own company or something..
I didnt watch todays episode yet but Read the update... the less I saw on it the better,,,
Cv's have already butchered Purvi's character and now they are doing the same with Arjun..
Hope the new entry of the guju family will bring some positivty... Anything but this trackk..
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Yup the less said better. I am excited for the guju family track bring on the thaplas and dhokla! Being guju I am interested on how Ekta is going to Portray them..
Hopefully the Sachin and Teju falling love tracks will replace the double preggo track ughh
I don't know how they are going to keep up with so many tracks...

Originally posted by: NadaCinta

You're right dear. Even I wish the same for Purvi but what is in store for us from Arjun and her are yet to be known. The less said about them is better as it will not hurt us much.


Let's see what the guju track has for us. There is going to be 2 love track i.e. Sachin's and Teju's. With this, they may divert the current triangle track between Arjun-Purvi and Ovi.

QUOTE=xoxoarvi]
Hey Dear,
Shymala Aunty is right.
I really want Purvi to drop this mahaantha act it is really annoying. Cant she focus on her own life.. Purvi is really dumb when it come to judging people. But I have to give it to her she is very intelligent when it comes to office work. She needs to realize what she excels in is in her professional life so she should give more atention to her job. She would be tough competition if she started her own company or something..
I didnt watch todays episode yet but Read the update... the less I saw on it the better,,,
Cv's have already butchered Purvi's character and now they are doing the same with Arjun..
Hope the new entry of the guju family will bring some positivty... Anything but this trackk..

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Dear Jyothi,

What can I do but mourn with you? There seems to be little else left to do. The problem is that our sensibilities, like those of the original Arjun and Purvi, are very far removed from those of the PR CVs. I now begin to understand that the original Arjun-Purvi were an aberration, not a fresh, attractive way of developing characters. Now they have been pruned and fitted into the old Procrustean bed made to order by Ekta Kapoor's legion of 'creatives', and so here we are.

Yes, for you and for me, it was always Arjun. I had watched PR for over 2 1/2 years, with a few months break, and I never had any involvement with any of the characters, and their joys and sorrows barely touched me. That changed with the leap and Arjun (and to a lesser extent Purvi). He was, for me a sort of Sasha II, and I really loved him.

Now he seems like a stranger, though it is the same face and the same charm. It is not even that I cannot forgive him for his idiocy in letting Purvi dispose of him for her own ends. It is that he does not seem to be able to decide WHAT he wants to do - stay with Ovi and manage as best as he can, or break free (I don't say go back to Purvi for she is too sanskaari to go back to where they were) and go his own way at last. He oscillates between the two aimlessly and brainlessly. It is this that gets my goat.

His picking a fight with that Sarvesh Industries chap was the height of folly, and I cringed when I watched our boy make such a idiot of himself. And all for a girl who cannot see beyond her aai, who cannot see beyond her Soham, who cannot see beyond his mayee - and so it goes, like the dhobhi, the dhoban and the gadha. Jyothi , it is not just Archana who takes Purvi for granted, Purvi takes Arjun for granted in precisely the same way, and the worst is that he does not seem to mind it at all! Why does he not cut loose from her; she does not deserve him at all.

Why then do we blame Ovi for selfishness, when Purvi is just as selfish or worse? Does it make it better that she dumps Arjun for her mother, whereas Ovi buys him for herself? I am reminded of what Vijay(Amitabh)'s mother in Deewaar tells him: The others who committed all those wrongs, what were they to me? Nothing. But you were my son. How then did you commit the same sins?". One expected more from Purvi because she was Arjun's beloved, and she owed Arjun for loving her so deeply - and she let him and us down big time.

We expected nothing from Ovi, and now I really begin to think she is beginning to shape up - please see my response to xoxoarvi above. She was not shamming today, she apologises to all and sundry unreservedly. and voices her regret at having suspected Arjun and Purvi groundlessly. They also bring out the fact that Ovi and Arjun have shared memories that are exclusive to them, that is something that had never registered with me before. He obviously has no notion of breaking up their marriage either. So where does that leave us?

Moreover, just as you, and many others, feel that Ovi should not go scot free and have a successful marriage, so do I feel that Purvi should not go scot free, and get Arjun back. If she suffers now because of her mahaan tyaag - which I sometimes doubt, for she is a self-satisfied martyr, and martyrs do not suffer as we lesser mortals do, they rejoice in their miseries- it is nowhere near enough for what she did to Arjun. So she has not paid yet, not by any manner of means. I only hope that the payback does not come in that ultra-ugly fashion, for that would just about put the lid on it. But as every rumour that we scoffed at has come true, I have a horrid feeling that this will too, and it will be the final nail in the coffin for Purvi.

No, not for Arjun, for even if he and Purvi had a fling before their planned marriage (which I find VERY hard to believe), it is not HIS fault that he ended up marrying Ovi. Why should he be blamed for the mess? I loved your "for I cannot leave our boy alone, with all his faults, he is still ours 😊..". I would say the same, except that I am tired of being miserable for a feckless idiot whom I cannot reach and teach. If it had been my Sasha, I would have straightened him out.

Well, Jyothi my dear, let us wait for the story to leap forward, or rather stumble forward, once more. And for the other shoe to drop. I plan to watch PR anyway, and since nothing that happens there really bothers me any more, I am in an enviable position of serene detachment . That is not quite true, as you are undoubtedly saying to yourself after reading my post of today, but that is what I am aiming to achieve!

Warm regards.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: jdronamraju


Dear Shyamala,

Reading this post and seeing our friends on it, reminds me of the good old days.. That is what they have become, the good old days.. But, what a glorious time we had .. and what have times become now.. so dismal !!
The train wreck that hit the glorious world of Arjun-Purvi, caused by one main driver and her two brainless assistants, has caused an irrevocable damage and I do not see any good recovery from it. It is getting worse by the day. PR has become a dabacle now, that we are forced to endure. I really dont care much for how the rest of the PR story goes, even though they are the main characters, I have never been able to really ever relate to that story or even the characters. I dont mean to lessen its importance, but stating my position on it. I have started watching PR for ARVI caught my attention, sometime early last year, and have sustained it all this time. It was a story that was weaved so well and the relationship evolved slowly but surely and had an undeniable charm to it until recent times.
For me, as for you, it was always Arjun who drew me to it.
But alas, what have they done to our boy now !! He is betrayed, shattered, lost in this loveless marriage, and I have no clue why he is still there, and has no hope of happiness in his life ever. What has he done to deserve this from both the sisters? Why does he not get out of this idiotic marriage? why does he want to make it "work"? For that idiotic girl who dumped him? What Rubbish !! She doesnt even have a tinge of remorse for what she put him through. Neither of the girls deserve him, neither Purvi nor least of all Ovi. Why does he not have any anger towards either of them? You are right, when you said, we had hopes when he said "Face it" to Purvi. It looked like he was gonna go that way, but why did the writers do an about turn and wimp him out? Is it shift the focus from them to the Vishnu track? Nothing explains it, for what he is now is totally against his character and what we all believed the kind of man he is. why have the writers done such a damage to him, still baffles me.
As far as Purvi, I can never forgive her for what she did to Arjun for whatever be her reason. For me, that is the ultimate deception, that one can do to the person whom u claimed to have loved, and promised to never leave him even the day before. CV's are trying to put a halo around her, as the mahaan tyaagi, and now the 'reformer' of all. But however thick this halo is, it will never banish the image of the hilltop scene, and what she did to Arjun, for me atleast. All said and done, since then she has not taken any wrong steps, out of her sanskaar world. She falls for the wrong people again, brings those snakes into her house. In the coming weeks, Purvi is going to be hounded by the snakes, Ovi and the rest of them until she has nowhere else to go. Her mother and aaji care less for her. They were not even concerned that she was accosted by Goondas and what could have happened to her, they were all into Soham, the golden boy. Such is her state right now, and the sad part is, she is not even aware of it. The orphan girl will remain orphan in that family. Her self-absored mother has no time to even think about this girl who has given up everything for her and still does and will too in the future.
Coming to my main grouch, Ms. Ovi.. What I cannot accept is that even though, she is the main reason for all the destruction, she is going "scot-free". Arjun and Purvi have and are suffering for all that is done, more so Arjun the most. But, what about Ovi? why does she not have to face the consequences of her actions? why is HER marriage the accepted thing? Why is her family, her self absorbed parents, her sister, DK and everyone involved, have absolved her of all her deeds? Why is it that everyone forgot what she did and how she did it? And now, she expects it to be a normal marraige and she is all hurt and pained by Arjun's actions? Did she not go into this with open eyes? Just because she serves him those unending supply of juices, parades around with her medals of honor in those strapless horrid dresses, acts all wifely, we are supposed to forget her karnamaas? I am surprised at the ready acceptance of Ovi and her expectations by some of us. When Arjun and Purvi are constantly questioned and criticized, why not Ovi? what makes her right and them wrong? I am not pointing at anyone in particular, but am just wondering at the general opinion. What she is facing right now, is just because of her insecurity and not enough retribution for me. She needs to pay big time for this, like the rest of them have.
Well, I have said enough, probably..😊... As far as the double pregnancy track goes, if it happens, it is the most disgusting thing they could come up with and the writers would have fallen to their lowest. And, then for me, PR is finished in that case. For, that will be the death of Arjun, that I know of. Until then, I will be around, for I cannot leave our boy alone, with all his faults, he is still ours 😊..


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Posted: 13 years ago
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My dear,

What is your real name, if you do not mind sharing it? This Hispanic moniker is stylish, but I would prefer the real thing.

The Jiddu Krishnamurti quotation is very beautiful.I have copied it into a little notebook I keep for such treasures. He was one of those rare instances of a beautiful mind and soul being combined with a noble, wise visage and presence.

Take care.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: NadaCinta

Dear Shyamala


Thanks and yes you're right not thiruvaarthai but aayiram vartaigal especially from you. Please do drop by the forum as and when you feel like it to provide us with your amazing inputs as that really gives us a big relieve.

Please take care of your wrist.

This quote by Jiddu Krishnamurti is an appreciation to you for opening the thread on Hurricane Sandy:"The moment you have in your heart this extraordinary thing called love and feel the depth, the delight, the ecstasy of it, you will discover that for you the world is transformed."

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Girls,

What is it with this Gujju track? I watched today's episode, but I seem to have missed this. Could either of you fill me in on it? Thanks.

Shyamala (Aunty)

You're right dear. Even I wish the same for Purvi but what is in store for us from Arjun and her are yet to be known. The less said about them is better as it will not hurt us much.

Let's see what the guju track has for us. There is going to be 2 love track i.e. Sachin's and Teju's. With this, they may divert the current triangle track between Arjun-Purvi and Ovi.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

Girls,

What is it with this Gujju track? I watched today's episode, but I seem to have missed this. Could either of you fill me in on it? Thanks.

Shyamala (Aunty)

Well there was a new article that a member posted saying that after the leap a gujarati family was going to move into Manav;s chawl. And they would bring in guju culture i.e. thapplas ... since they sell snacks for a living. One of the 2 sons his going to be paired opposite to teju.
Here is the link

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Dear Tanyaz,

I am glad you liked this post, which really reflects the depth of my frustration with PR as it is today. I feel it has never been this bad before. As I wrote to Jyothi above, this is the one size fits all bed, to fit which Ekta's CVs trim, lop and clip all the characters. Right now it is Arjun and Purvi, and the depth of our disappointment is a measure of how much we cared for them.

I really do not know WHAT to say about the story and the way it is stumbling along. Pretty soon it will stumble thru the next leap, and I only hope we do not have all those ugly developments that are rumoured.

I am glad you escaped much of Sandy in Toronto. But there will a good bit of fallout, physical and financial, and the US presidential elections are only 8 days away. Let us see what happens.
When I was the High Commissioner of India to Canada from 2004 to 2007, I used to visit Toronto for work practically every week, and it took only 4 hours by road from Ottawa.

Take care.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: Tanyaz

Hi Shyamala ,

Nice to see you here .

I agree with your post .It is so well written and you have pretty much said everything about all the characters . Feel bad to see Arjun , Purvi and Ovi triangle getting handled so badly by the Cvs ...
Reminds me of the days when me and my friends used to feel down how Manav And Archana's love story was butchered by bringing Shravani in it.
What I cannot understand is why Ekta does this to her tele shows ? Has she not realized that the second woman angle is pretty much outdated or else how does one explains the success of Diya aur baati ,Saathiya and Yeh Rishta ...these shows are doing better than PR and without the ghisa pita second woman angle ...
And when there is nothing else that is coming to their minds , they just go for a leap ...
The only story I am finding interesting is that of Soham . Let's see how long that survives ..
The storm in Toronto was not at bad as it was in New York and NJ. Thank God we did not have a power cut .I was all prepared with candles and torch lights ...
The bad thing is that the Stock market is going to take a hit because of this and that is not looking very good ...

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Shyamala,
I do agree and wanted that too. Purvi also needs to pay for what she did to Arjun, no two ways about it. But, I do not want her to pay this way. Getting pregnant out of wedlock. I do not want her character to be sullied by one and all, mostly, the likes of Punnis and Manjus. She does not deserve that ! For that way, Arjun's character is sullied too.. which is unacceptable that he would act that way before their wedding.
I wanted her to pay by repenting what she did to Arjun, realize the destruction of his life that she caused. Not sure how, but something should cause this thinking in her, and if she wants him, she is the one that should do the running around this time. Because, she was "apna", and her callousness hurts us more than Ovi's. But, all these thoughts are what I had a few weeks ago, in the initial stages of the separation..Now, I really dont know how I want that pay back. The story has moved far beyond what it used to be.
Yes, reading the WU today, it seems that Arjun-Ovi reconcilation is on, a sudden 180 deg turn, which is mind boggling, but apparently, it is the demand of TRP crowd as shown strategically to us in that zee awards promo. They do take us for fools as we could see it was all stage managed to promote this pair and the character Ovi.
Right now, the focus is on showing how good Ovi can be, how sweet natured she is and so on. Which was the reason of my angst against her. If they show their marriage as successful, what are they conveying to the public? That bad always wins? Doesnt matter how a ristha is made, as long as they are married, it can be a Pavitra Ristha??There is never a happy ending however beautiful a love story is bewteen two people? They dont really seem to care about it, one way or another.
Yes,if u do achieve that complete nirvana, please let me know..😊 For, I am far away from it now. I still have this anger in me about the injustice of it all. I need a way to get rid of it. 😊

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Posted: 13 years ago
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My dear Archana,

Don't you see, I came back not for Arjun or Purvi or PR, but just because I missed you and our other friends. It is so easy to lose track of each other and then the good times fade soon into a sepia-tinted memory. I did not want that to happen to us, at least not so soon!

As Jyothi says, I still feel for our boy, as for a favourite child who is stupid beyond all belief, but these days my exasperation wins out, and then again I do not want to despair any longer over the idiocies of a virtual character who is beyond my reach. to counsel or to correct.

I have written a good bit to Jyothi above that you might be seeing, and my wrist is already tired, but I must add just one thing. Judging from today's episode, they are starting to build up Ovi , and I have a feeling that Arjun is going to settle down with her, after a fashion, for he is now going back to their shared memories. Plus he is quite obviously setting himself to making her feel at ease, by citing their friendship and their knowledge of each other from so many years spent together in their childhood and early youth.

Now this is not something that can be denied, and if the girl he worshipped cared so little for him or his love as to sell him to a willing bidder to get something she wanted for her aai, then why not? Why should Arjun languish forever in the Trishanku style limbo, wretchedly unhappy and unable to do anything about the real source of his misery? I would not mind at all if he settles down and is at least comfortable, is not happy.

But that will not happen, and I expect that Ovi will die in childbirth and then Purvi will have her cake and eat it, with a halo fixed firmly in place for having redeemed so many souls, plus a ready made kid of Arjun's to mother by proxy. Unless of course there are TWO kids, which is too awful a prospect to contemplate. Let us see what happens.

I know I sound like an iconoclast, but this is how I feel right now, and the person I blame the most is Purvi. I do not agree with this mahaanta trip of hers or the hosannas being sung to her, and I do not think she should get away with it, but rest assured she will. She is Archana Jr., after all, and she can do no wrong either. Just look at the way Arjun still fawns all over her after what she did to him! No wonder she is sure that she is always right.

Take care, of yourself and of little Nikki as well, do not catch any more colds, and enjoy yourselves at Deepavali.

Shyamala

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Oh Shyamala...I was all set to write you (which is following next separately) but was visiting the forum while waiting for my meeting and read this...just had to respond to it. It is hurtful, painful and sad what they have done to our ARVI and PR has become insufferable. As you have said...all 3 have made their bed and must lie in it. We will never ever forgive Purvi for what she has done...but I still think Arjun's greatest fault is as u said blind faith that she too loves him with the same intensity he does her. Also he made the biggest mistake of underestimating her. He honestly thought (again completely delusional) she would not be able to stand there and watch him marry Ovi. Wrong. Dead wrong.

As for Ovi...her constant whining grates on my nerves and personally I would like to just stuff a sock in her mouth. She is a cry baby who is pouting because although she ultimately got what she wanted, she is discovering that payback and karma are a real ____. As they say, be careful what you wish for for you just might get it!!! Yes both Purvi and Ovi are guilty of the same...they both cracked that deal and now it is time to pay the Piper. Purvi is already paying...the same mother she destroyed herself and the one person who loved her for herself for, could hardly be bothered about her now after getting her family back. That much is crystal clear and obvious. When she tells Archana about what nearly happened to her with those goons, and Soham rescuing her, Archana does not even spare a thought or reaction to what nearly happened to her daughter!! Only concerned with finding the good in Soham from that episode. No shock, fear, or even a heartfelt scolding...nothing. What Bakwaas!! But there you go...Purvi gave up the one person whose only concern was her... For this. Again payback.

So Ovi deserves no less. Why should Ovi have a happy marriage? It was her plan to emotionally blackmail Purvi in the first place...and make that deal. She does not care about Arjun. She only cares that Arjun show love to her the way she wants it shown. She does not care about or respect his feelings. She married a man who is clearly deeply in love with someone else and maliciously destroyed his life. You cannot force someone to love you---the heart is not a light switch to be turned off and on. She is going to pay dearly for her mistake... and it is well deserved. Very well deserved.

About Arjun---am beyond words. Lets just say I share your sentiment and believe he has become too soft. That is puttin it mildly. Frankly speaking I am simply too heartbroken to continue about him.

The pregnancy track if true is ridiculous and if it happens the show is finished. I think it is a mess that is better left alone. But of course these CVs cannot be underestimated. They are vicious beyond even my wildest explanations. I never thought a writer who had so carefully, meticulously and painstakingly brought such a creation like ARVI to life...so utterly capable of destorying their own creation so brutally and thoroughly. If they can do that, they can do anything.

This post of yours was again very refreshing and well written. Harsh truths...but truths nonetheless. I for my part have missed you dearly...very much so...and dont come to the Forums much anymore. But since it is your post, out of sheer affection, I felt I owed it a good lengthy response in return :). I expect there will be those who will read this post and bash it for sure as they are out for my blood it seems. Oh well---have at it then!!

Good to see you here again my friend..Even if it is only for a day. I miss our posts and analysis and our active days here...the PR team and Ekta Kapoor have effectively destroyed that too. Take care. **hugs** Archana

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