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Posted: 13 years ago
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Nice to see you Tanya after such a long time..🤗..

true..world is so small..Savita has done evil with Archana for long..Archana has got her daughters hatred, Archana had to burnt with the bad words of their daughters for the long time..now Savita has to face Manav's anger..irony of life..

You are true Tanya that Manav has got really a good life partner.. without being unbiased I want to say one thing that even in the today's 21st century man's mistake ( crime, wrong or evil things ) are forgiven easily in the conjugal life of any husband wife sply in India..where men can easily escape by betraying his wife's faith (sometime with one word "sorry")..woman can hardly find any place to go if does the same thing...

Yes Nava, I may sound bad to all (though I am a die hard Arvi fan), I also do feel that Purvi should be left alone for some time becoz she needs the realisation..now if she can not maintain the same type of relationship with Arjun...(neither from socially nor legally)..

The definition of sacrifice (for BT writers) is really hard to understand..if this sacrifice drama ruins three lives then what is the importance of all these..
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: crazy2012

Nice to see you Tanya after such a long time..🤗..

true..world is so small..Savita has done evil with Archana for long..Archana has got her daughters hatred, Archana had to burnt with the bad words of their daughters for the long time..now Savita has to face Manav's anger..irony of life..

I am happy that Savita is going through all this now . It is just a fraction of what she made another mother suffer for so many years .And she said that she did this for Manav's good ...sorry but Manav was a grown up man , a father of 4 kids then ..who is she to decide how he wants to live his life ...
Now Manav can also turn around and say that by keeping you away , I am protecting my family .You did not care abotu a mother when you wanted to do what you thought was right .Now I am also not thinking of a mother because I also want to do the right thing and that is not to forgive you until you learn your lesson ...

You are true Tanya that Manav has got really a good life partner.. without being unbiased I want to say one thing that even in the today's 21st century man's mistake ( crime, wrong or evil things ) are forgiven easily in the conjugal life of any husband wife sply in India..where men can easily escape by betraying his wife's faith (sometime with one word "sorry")..woman can hardly find any place to go if does the same thing...
No, Manav has not been a good husban at all..The only thing that I liekd about him was his accepting Purvi when he came to know about her .But even with her he was unfair when he never correctedOvi for running after Arjun ..If he was strict with Ovi then maybe Purvi would not have done what she did .
I don't know how Manav is ever going to make it up for the damage he has done to Archana ..Now Manav is dying inside for Soham , Savita is dying for Manav ..They both should think about how they seperated a mother from her kids ..How did she feel for 18 years .

Yes Nava, I may sound bad to all (though I am a die hard Arvi fan), I also do feel that Purvi should be left alone for some time becoz she needs the realisation..now if she can not maintain the same type of relationship with Arjun...(neither from socially nor legally)..
I agree with you .Purvi should be left alone .I want to see Purvi see Arjun in a lot of pain and then feel very bad about the pain that she has caused him .Not once has she thought about Arjun's pain ...

The definition of sacrifice (for BT writers) is really hard to understand..if this sacrifice drama ruins three lives then what is the importance of all these..
I really would like to know why Ekta kapoor finds sacrifising so beautiful ...
That lady is obsessed with it ..
My sister had started watching PR but now again she gave it up after Arjun got married to Ovi ...
Purvi's sacrifise has killed this story line complelety .Now the minute Purvi starts talking proudly of her tyaag , I feel like forwarding the show .

Edited by Tanyaz - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Savita is back with what she knows best: fake tears and nautanki. Of course she will be forgiven in 18 days for whatever she did. She is the great mother after all.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: sonali.23



tanyaz nice post! however theryre some points i beg to differ on.😊 sulochana too is a very bad mother to archana she always trying to misguide her and create problem between her and her sasural, she slap manav not twice but thrice. she also say many bad things to manav in ajit favor, insult him bad many times. i have been very mad with savita these days and i still am but i honestly do feel a tad sympathetic for her. this way manav has been behaving to his mom this days is very inhuman. savita is an old aged lady and she shouldn't be treated like this. of course her age doesnt hide her faults but manav shud not have say to his mom that if u leave house i dont care. he shud show sadness upon his mom leaving house bcuz savita do care for him. she hate archana but at least she like her son. actually archana not always stand by manav thru thick and thin. yes she was a wonderful wife to him at certain time but how about when he want to demolish chawl then archana objecting it and doing case against him which is not very appropriate for a wife to do. manav has suffer just like archana, to me both arman r responsible for whatever happened, not just manav. but the person who i hate most of all is varsha,😡 i totally hate varsha to the core she is a disgusting pathetic woman.😡 she steal soham away from arman and i hope soham blast varsha and archana for his bad childhood. varsha is way worst then savita anyday. and if archana dare forgive varsha for her sin i hope manav slaps varsha and even archana if she supporting her sister too much.


Brilliant post sonali 👏..Archu is no faultless here..She has also done some major blunders that has destructed her relationship with Manav..No escape in that and so has Sulo..The point here is humanitarian concern..Leave Savita being a mother here,but out of humanity how can you leave a old lady just go off all of a sudden to wander in streets and say you dont care...Where is that basic humanitarian concern gone..You are first a human being and the trait of a human being is to show humanitarian concern..If you dont have it whats the difference between you and a inanimate object..Let Manav be all angry and ignore Savita but at least he should make sure she is safe..What if something had happened to Savita..The way she was walking ,what if she had met with an accident..Thats my point total lack of humanitarian concern from that too Manav was appalling to say the least..Really pathetic from Manav.HE could have called Vandu or someone else..Dont bring her back to the same home ,let her stay with Vandu..At least Manav could have done that..
This was the worst thing to show in PR...Disgusting from Manav ..The little bit of concern shown from Archu was also missing from Manav,at least basic humanitarian concern was expected from him which itself was missing...Shame on this flip-flopping man who is yet to learn the balancing act.I hope Soham blasts Arman in front of everyone in public..Arman deserve the same too from Soham..
Arman cant wash their hands for their mistake for using Soham like a toy on Savita..They deserve their set of trashing and Soham should blast them for the non-sense they have done.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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i don't understand why everybody is blasting manav for sending savita out of the house... she deserves every bit that is coming her way... if people wants to take things on humanitarian ground then what savita did to archana and manav was human... she fooled both of them for 18 years... forget about archana manav what she did with ovi,teju, sachu keeping away from there mother just to have control over the house... was that human... if that was not enough she used her grand daughters against archana so that archana can never become part of the family ... was that human... i still can't forget her smiling face when ovi and teju were crying and blaming archana and savita was laughing seeing them pain and over archana's pain ... was that human... there many things which savita did and they can never be called human... what she is going through today its her own fruit which she is tasting right now... no sympathy from my side to savita...
second in soham case don't forget how savita manipulated the whole condition after soham first got kidnapped... the whole adoption drama was planned by savita only not to forget... when archana gave soham to varsha in the party then it was archana's fault and she says also that it was her fault but in my eyes more than archana it was varsha's fault... archana gave her own son so that she can prove herself that she is not obsessed with soham and she is perfectly fine after the treatment she has gone through but yet again she made archana look bad in everybody's eyes...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: sonali.23



rash2222 noone is denying what savita did was wrong. we all know she is doing wrong but 2 wrongs dont make a right. she may have done some thing which r inhuman like the example u gave but this does not exonerate arman from their mistakes. archana is suffering yes but some of it is due to her own deeds. savita is suffering due to her bad deeds and its ok for manav to be somewhat angry at her but what about that damodar? why is he being let off the hook! he knew it all but chose not to tell manav and what kind of father he is! always is drinking all the time taunts his wife, manav learn how to disrespect his mom from damodar only. sulochana has always treated manav very badly. she is no better den savita.

at the end of it u cant disrespect and let an 70 years old women who is also ur mom like this only
i hated vinod wne he threw sulo out,hw much i remember evn he dint told her out
in the same way manav dint but he dint stoped savita either
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Hi Sonali Jai and Sherma .
Great to read your opinions and many things I do agree with like Manav and Archana havign a role to play where Soham 's disappearance was concerned ..but they have paid enough ../They are still without their child .Manav was in this depressed state of mind .Both Manav and Archana had to pay so much for that mistake ..The only people who did not pay were Varsha and Savita ..savita only has had one week of staying away from her children and just look at the state she is in ..
Look guys , what she has done .She has to be punished . It is just not me bu tmajority of the PR watching viewers who all wanted to see savita punished ..
I don't want her to be abandoned at this age and walking all alone on the streets ..Hope she comes back home but what she has done , she will never be punished enough because she can never give back Archana the 18 years of her life that she spend without her kids .
Damodar should definitely be also punished seriously and so should Manav and Sachin .These guys got away .In that sense I agree with you ..
Manav himself has got away and Damodar is no one to taunt Savita ..
Manav should have punished himsel for what he did .Just stop talking to his mother and blaming her for everything is not enough .He was the one who mistrusted Archana , he took her kids away and it was under his guidance that the kids learnt to hate Archaan ...It is all as much his fault as savita ..But he got away , lucky fellow he is .
Archana is the only one who was at the recieving end of Savita's cruelty ..No matter what Manav ,Savita do , they can never undo the damage .They both should be punished .Manav says that he is punishing himself by keeping himself away from his mother ..He loves his mother the most in this world ...but very soon , Savita will be back in the comforts of her home and everything will be Ok for her ...you all wait and see..
Savita 's punishment will not last for more than one month where as poor Archana had to suffer for 18 years ..
No way do I want Archana to suffer any more ..Even if she made any mistakes , she has more than enough paid for it ..
It is Manav ,Damodar and Savita who have got away ...they are the lucky ones ...
I wish Teju had taken her mother to another house , banning her father to be anywhere near her mother and also breaking relations with him and also Damodar ..
As for Sulochna , I feel that she too has suffered along Archana a lot ..I don't want her punished anymore ..I hope this time Vinod takes good care of her .
Edited by Tanyaz - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Tanyaz

Hi Sonali Jai and Sherma .

Great to read your opinions and many things I do agree with like Manav and Archana havign a role to play where Soham 's disappearance was concerned ..but they have paid enough ../They are still without their child .Manav was in this depressed state of mind .Both Manav and Archana had to pay so much for that mistake ..The only people who did not pay were Varsha and Savita ..savita only has had one week of staying away from her children and just look at the state she is in ..
Look guys , what she has done .She has to be punished . It is just not me bu tmajority of the PR watching viewers who all wanted to see savita punished ..
I don't want her to be abandoned at this age and walking all alone on the streets ..Hope she comes back home but what she has done , she will never be punished enough because she can never give back Archana the 18 years of her life that she spend without her kids .
Damodar should definitely be also punished seriously and so should Manav and Sachin .These guys got away .In that sense I agree with you ..
Manav himself has got away and Damodar is no one to taunt Savita ..
Archana is the only one who was at the recieving end of Savita's cruelty ..No matter what Manav ,Savita do , they can never undo the damage .They both should be punished .Manav says that he is punishing himself by keeping himself away from his mother ..He loves his mother the most in this world ...but very soon , Savita will be back in the comforts of her home and everything will be Ok for her ...you all wait and see..
Savita 's punishment will not last for more than one month where as poor Archana had to suffer for 18 years ..
No way do I want Archana to suffer any more ..Even if she made any mistakes , she has more than enough paid for it ..
It is Manav ,Damodar and Savita who have got away ...they are the lucky ones ...
I wish Teju had taken her mother to another house , banning her father to be anywhere near her mother and also breaking relations with him and also Damodar ..
As for Sulochna , I feel that she too has suffered along Archana a lot ..I don't want her puniished anymore ..I hope this time Vinod takes good care of her .


Tanya we are not saying Savita should not be punished..Our whole point is not that ,our whole is lack of humanitarian concern for a old lady..lets forgot Savita is a mother of Manav..How can one allow a old lady to go wander on streets at this age and you say you dont give a damn and you still leave her and come back..She does not have any money nothing ,how will she come back..
This is a basic humanitarian concern which we humans have and this is what differentiates us from non-living things..
What Manav had to do was very simple..Dont bring Savita back to the house at-least call Vandu and tell her about Savita and ask her to talk home..Thats it..Cant he even show this concern..IF it was Sulo would he have left her,hell no..
And why is Damo allowed scott free to roam in the house when he is equally the guilty party..Why is this biasing done here.Damo has silently supported Savita by staying quiet.They say ,more punishable is the supporter of crime and Damo has done that and why Damo is allowed to walk scott free here.
This pathetic behavior from Manav was the point of concern.This humanitarian concerns differentiates us from non-living.God can never ever forgive such non-sense no matter what Savita is a mother and its a fact.Such non-sense against any mother is equally punishable and Manav has to answer it to the Almighty for this - a simple fact.
And Tanya Manav has equally cried and has been in pathetic state like Archu for 18 years..He was going gaga and the that out-burst at Savita proved his condition..so its totally unfair to say Archu was the one who suffered. Manav too has equally suffered the loss ,especially loosing Soham which is such a unbearable loss..But Arman cant wash away their hands on this on Savita.
As Savita is getting punished for this ,same majority of viewers also want to see Soham blast Arman for their mistake..Mistake is a mistake and Arman are no saints here..They have made their mistake and they deserve the trashing coming their way.
Archu needs to learn a lesson of trusting her relationship and husband over others and Manav also same (for giving in to the schemes of Dharmesh ).Both of them need to be shown repenting on the mistake they have made now and Soham is the key here.Through Soham I want to see it happen that Arman repent and learn from their mistake. Arman so far have not been shown repenting any mistakes so far that was done 18 years back.This needs to be done and this has to come from both and not Manav alone..
Archu suffering for 18 years cannot hide the mistakes she has made.Like Manav ,Archu also needs to be shown correcting her mistake (i.e) her weakness towards her maika and especially Varsha who she says she brought Varsha like her own child.This time Archu needs to also show that her kids and her husband come above everything and Manav is trying to do the same and they have to do a lot to get back Soham ,not just being depressed and looking lost.

PS : Varsha is someone many including me can never forgive no matter what..She has not only separated a child from his parents but also destructed his life by making him fall in wrong hands and making him a criminal. She has also destroyed the life a wonderful sane human being and his family (Satish and his family).She aborted her child and destroyed his dreams and with this act destroyed his life. The only mistake of Satish was he loved Varsha so much...





Edited by Jaishankar - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Jaishankar


Tanya we are not saying Savita should not be punished..Our whole point is not that ,our whole is lack of humanitarian concern for a old lady..lets forgot Savita is a mother of Manav..How can one allow a old lady to go wander on streets at this age and you say you dont give a damn and you still leave her and come back..She does not have any money nothing ,how will she come back..
This is a basic humanitarian concern which we humans have and this is what differentiates us from non-living things..
What Manav had to do was very simple..Dont bring Savita back to the house at-least call Vandu and tell her about Savita and ask her to talk home..Thats it..Cant he even show this concern..IF it was Sulo would he have left her,hell no..
And why is Damo allowed scott free to roam in the house when he is equally the guilty party..Why is this biasing done here.Damo has silently supported Savita by staying quiet.They say ,more punishable is the supporter of crime and Damo has done that and why Damo is allowed to walk scott free here.
This pathetic behavior from Manav was the point of concern.This humanitarian concerns differentiates us from non-living.God can never ever forgive such non-sense no matter what Savita is a mother and its a fact.Such non-sense against any mother is equally punishable and Manav has to answer it to the Almighty for this - a simple fact.
And Tanya Manav has equally cried and has been in pathetic state like Archu for 18 years..He was going gaga and the that out-burst at Savita proved his condition..so its totally unfair to say Archu was the one who suffered. Manav too has equally suffered the loss ,especially loosing Soham which is such a unbearable loss..But Arman cant wash away their hands on this on Savita.
As Savita is getting punished for this ,same majority of viewers also want to see Soham blast Arman for their mistake..Mistake is a mistake and Arman are no saints here..They have made their mistake and they deserve the trashing coming their way.
Archu needs to learn a lesson of trusting her relationship and husband over others and Manav also same.Both of them need to be shown repenting on the mistake they have made now and Soham is the key here.Through Soham I want to see it happen that Arman repent and learn from their mistake. Arman so far have not been shown repenting any mistakes so far that was done 18 years back.This needs to be done and this has to come from both and not Manav alone..
Archu suffering for 18 years cannot hide the mistakes she has made.Like Manav ,Archu also needs to be shown correcting her mistake (i.e) her weakness towards her maika and especially Varsha who she says she brought Varsha like her own child.This time Archu needs to also show that her kids and her husband come above everything and Manav is trying to do the same and they have to do a lot to get back Soham ,not just being depressed and looking lost.




Jai it's not just Tanya...don't forget i feel the same way, so you can argue w/ me too 😆 😆

I think there are a couple of issues.. @ your red. First of all i totally disagree that Arman have not been shown repenting their mistakes...for god's sake Manav got down on his knees and begged forgiveness. Both of them over and over each have said "the mistakes i made are why we are suffering." How can you say they haven't repented?? The only one who has never repented is Savita! She still thinks she did nothing wrong. Her sadness is for herself for not having Manav's complete adoration and the girls wrapped around her finger. She has never once said how what she did hurt her family, hurt her son, hurt her grandchildren.. There is no comparison...except yes.. with Varsha...who also is selfish to the core. Neither Manav nor Achana are selfish, Jai. They make mistakes but they are not selfish. both Savita and Varsha are totally self absorbed totally self centered people. How can you compare them to ArMan?😲

Secondly, Savita left in broad daylight. Not at night...she goes to the the market to the neighbors to the shops on her own...She's not a decrepit old old lady...she gets around...but she's playing a game Jai .. the only way she would stay out at night is to inflict guilt...Manav answered her like he did because she had just lied AGAIN...ABOUT SEEING VARSHA IN THE HOUSE. Don''t you know about the boy who cried wolf? At some point she has to be caught in her own trap...Manav is only human ! (thank God)

You have always defended Manav. You know full well this character wouldn't let her stay out in the night... So i am defending him now.. 😆 😉 The days of PR take a week...it's still the same day, daylight, and they are running around the stupid train station like a bunch of chickens with their head cut off. No one is going to let Savita stay out on the streets (like, ahem, Savita did when she forced ArMan out on the streets for weeks when they were first married and Archu got very very sick...what goes around.. right?)

I don't want Arman to suffer any more/ either one of them. I want Soham to be part of their healing and see Varsha have to pay for her sins... and i do agree that both arman need to make their marriage and their children the top priority in their lives..

I guess Jai, i am so tough on Savita because i am a mother and grandmother. I am beyond horrified to see what she has done. How on earth can a mother and a grandmother do this to her children. It really is unforgiveable, but God is good. But he does require repentance does He not?. You talk about him punishing Manav if manav does wrong re: his mother? (and in my faith it's both parents not just mother who is honored like that) What does he do with a mother who destroys her children for her own greed? Manav won't hurt his mother, you of all people should know that...but you gotta let him have some healthy feelings of not giving in to abuse for once.

ps. as far as Damodar is concerned, to me he is caricature of the kind of person who simply trusts God to sort things out, but doesn't feel he has a right or obligation to act. A LOT of people like that in the world.

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Jai it's not just Tanya...don't forget i feel the same way, so you can argue w/ me too 😆 😆

I think there are a couple of issues.. @ your red. First of all i totally disagree that Arman have not been shown repenting their mistakes...for god's sake Manav got down on his knees and begged forgiveness. Both of them over and over each have said "the mistakes i made are why we are suffering." How can you say they haven't repented?? The only one who has never repented is Savita! She still thinks she did nothing wrong. Her sadness is for herself for not having Manav's complete adoration and the girls wrapped around her finger. She has never once said how what she did hurt her family, hurt her son, hurt her grandchildren.. There is no comparison...except yes.. with Varsha...who also is selfish to the core. Neither Manav nor Achana are selfish, Jai. They make mistakes but they are not selfish. both Savita and Varsha are totally self absorbed totally self centered people. How can you compare them to ArMan?😲

Secondly, Savita left in broad daylight. Not at night...she goes to the the market to the neighbors to the shops on her own...She's not a decrepit old old lady...she gets around...but she's playing a game Jai .. the only way she would stay out at night is to inflict guilt...Manav answered her like he did because she had just lied AGAIN...ABOUT SEEING VARSHA IN THE HOUSE. Don''t you know about the boy who cried wolf? At some point she has to be caught in her own trap...Manav is only human ! (thank God)

You have always defended Manav. You know full well this character wouldn't let her stay out in the night... So i am defending him now.. 😆 😉 The days of PR take a week...it's still the same day, daylight, and they are running around the stupid train station like a bunch of chickens with their head cut off. No one is going to let Savita stay out on the streets (like, ahem, Savita did when she forced ArMan out on the streets for weeks when they were first married and Archu got very very sick...what goes around.. right?)

I don't want Arman to suffer any more/ either one of them. I want Soham to be part of their healing and see Varsha have to pay for her sins...

I guess Jai, i am so tough on Savita because i am a mother and grandmother. I am beyond horrified to see what she has done. How on earth can a mother and a grandmother do this to her children. It really is unforgiveable, but God is good. But he does require repentance does He not?. You talk about him punishing Manav if manav does wrong re: his mother? (and in my faith it's parents both not just mother who is honored like that) What does he do with a mother who destroys her children for her own greed? Manav won't hurt his mother, you of all people should know that...but you gotta let him have some healthy feelings of not giving in to abuse for once.

ps. as far as Damodar is concerned, to me he is caricature of the kind of person who simply trusts God to sort things out, but doesn't feel he has a right or obligation to act. A LOT of people like that in the world.

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Naava again to clarify my point of repenting mistake is not falling under knees and begging forgiveness no its about correcting what they did wrong (i.e) trusting each other and their relationship above everything else .No one can deny the fact that Archu trusted chawl people more than Manav and Manav fell into Dharmesh schemes after Soham fiasco. So both are wrong and my point was to correct these mistakes and keep that trust and relationship above everything else. I have defended Arman and Manav/Archu whenever they were right.
According to me Manav is not right today.And I being a son cannot see any son doing such non-sense.Broad day-light or night Naava the point is you allowed here to leave all alone and did not give a damn.Its that lack of humanitarian concern which is the point and I for one being a Son cannot tolerate such non-sense. I have always defended when Manav was right and I still will defend him but here he is not right according to me.
I believe in humanity and the concerns associated to it and I firmly believe on the fact of giving water to the thirsty even if its your enemy then no way I can see a old lady without money wandering streets.She is over 80 Naava and any person would not allow a old lady wander alone.MY point is that and nothing else.She has no money nothing ,how can she walk so long and come back..What if something happens in between and she faints.IS that morally right then from Manav.
We are born as humans with a gift of showing concern to others when in need no matter who he/she is and Manav was plainly in-human today coz he did not care to think what a old lady would do wandering streets all alone without money or anything.
And Arman have to hear the harsh truth.I cannot forgive Arman so easily for playing with Soham .Hard Arman been strong enough and trusted each other and placed their relationship above everything else such situations would not have arisen. I am expecting Arman to understand the root-cause of their separation which is trust and work on it ,just asking mere forgiveness and falling in knes does not make things right.Its the actions that make things right and I want both Manav and Archu to work on it.Thats my point here.
The same way you are horrified on what Savita has done, I am equally horrified by Arman for what they have done with Soham and mistake is a mistake and I want Arman to repent by doing the right things by first placing their relationship and trust over each other above everything and win Soham back through their actions and not just being depressed or lost.
Manav is a human and hence I am appalled by his lack of humanitarian concern to his own mother.Yes the day is not over in PR yet ,let me see if Manav does something here.I doubt it ,if he doesnt then I can never agree that he is right here.
Two wrongs can never make things right and Manav was wrong here.
The less said about Damo the better coz I cant stand that man like Varsha.

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