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Posted: 12 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: sonali.23

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tanyaz nice post! however theryre some points i beg to differ on.😊 sulochana too is a very bad mother to archana she always trying to misguide her and create problem between her and her sasural, she slap manav not twice but thrice. she also say many bad things to manav in ajit favor, insult him bad many times.
Sonali , I also do not like Sulochna sometimes .The reasons are because she has been rather selfish with Archana .She used Archana for so many things ..But the last 18 years or so , I felt that she more than made up for all that .She stood by Archana when everyone dumped her ..
As for the slaps . Savita too has slapped Archana twice and once even tried to burn her alive .How come no one mentions the slaps and the humiliations that Archana was getting .😕..So savita and Sulochna are both comepletely even on this front .
Compared to how savita has been to Archana , Sulochna has done nothing ...
Savita has deliberately tried to hurt her bahu many many times ..Knowing fully well that she is innocent ..She has got false divorce papers served to Archana not once but twice ...
i have been very mad with savita these days and i still am but i honestly do feel a tad sympathetic for her. this way manav has been behaving to his mom this days is very inhuman. savita is an old aged lady and she shouldn't be treated like this.
What Savita did , that was inhuman .She never respected another woman's rights as a mother ...What goes around comes around na ...She made the girls hate Archana for 18 years ..Now she has herself fallen in the same khadda that she was digging for her bahu ...
As for Manav ...he is like this .He goes to extremes ..With Archaan too he was inhuman when he listened to his mother and hated his wife forgetting all good that she even did to him and just hating her and doing what mommy wanted ..he is doing the same now ...The difference is that this time the woman he is put off with is not Archana but Savita ..
Savita was loving Archana being hated ( she could not stop smiling everytime Archana was insulted by her children and her husband , how else would this woman learn how evil she was ) ...the only way God could teach this woman what Hate really means is to make her feel hated by her very own son ...Exactly what she wanted for Archana ...
But Archana is such a nice person that she was telling Savita not to distance herself with her son or else this man will go away from her even more ..
Why Archana said that ...simple , because she herself has experienced it ..She has felt the pain how Manav gets put off and how cold he can get if he wants to ..She does not want this pain for anyone ...not even for the woman who destroyed her life ...
of course her age doesnt hide her faults but manav shud not have say to his mom that if u leave house i dont care. he shud show sadness upon his mom leaving house bcuz savita do care for him. she hate archana but at least she like her son.
If she liked her son that much then she would not have seperated him from his love ..What kind of a mother sees her son unhappy for 18 years , without love , without his wife and a proper family , crying in locked rooms on his anniversary ...but Manav's tears did not effect Savita at all...Very strange love I must say ..
Savita is very choosy at loving Manav .She only loves him when it suits her missions in life ..When her mission in life clashes with her son's love , she always does what her heart wants and not what Manav wants .
actually archana not always stand by manav thru thick and thin. yes she was a wonderful wife to him at certain time but how about when he want to demolish chawl then archana objecting it and doing case against him which is not very appropriate for a wife to do.
Archana had asked him not to take the case but he too did not stand by Archana and he took the case .So if she did not stand by him then he too did not stand by her ...
Every person has a right to stand by their opinion ...Archana stood by hers ..Anyway , the court case did not hurt Manav at all...the Chawl people themselves protected him and made sure that he will nto get hurt ..Even his boss was least effected ( he told Manav to forget about it ) ...
Manav ignored Archana throughout the pregnany ...I think that was enough of punishment but if he was still angry then he could have divorced her if he wanted to ..He himself does not think that Archana did anything wrong and has said it twice ( once in front of Savita and then 18 years later in front of Arjun that he was wrong and Archaan was right in the court case ) .
.I think Archana has stood by Manav so so many times ...throughout her whole life but yes , Manav has not stood by Archana most of his life ..he is the one who did not trust her and trusted his mother and desptroyed Archana 's life ...
I wish Archana had not forgiven him so easily .
In my opinion Manav is the one who has wronged the relationship many many times more than Archana ...
manav has suffer just like archana, to me both arman r responsible for whatever happened, not just manav. but the person who i hate most of all is varsha,😡 i totally hate varsha to the core she is a disgusting pathetic woman.😡 she steal soham away from arman and i hope soham blast varsha and archana for his bad childhood. varsha is way worst then savita anyday. and if archana dare forgive varsha for her sin i hope manav slaps varsha and even archana if she supporting her sister too much.
I also hate Varsha .I hope she goes to prison ..Archana forgives everyone ..Hell she forgave Savita and Manav ...She forgave savita within hours ..I also hope she does not forgives Varsha ..But Varsha is so evil that Archana's forgiveness means nothing to her ...Al lthat matters to Varsha is Soham ..The only way Varsha can learn her lesson is for Soham to hate her eventually ...
If Archana wants Varsha to be forgiven immediately then of course she will be wrong but let's first see what her stand will be on this .

Edited by Tanyaz - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#62

I totally agree to disagree on the one in blue..Archu never trusted Manav right from the chawl case issue began..OCtober 24th 2011 episode She accused Manav that he did all this for money..She claimed she knows Manav so much how come in a jiffy she came to a conclusion that Manav did that for money without even giving it a thought..IT was actually Sulo who has reminded Archu to mend it with Manav but Archu never said sorry for putting such a blame on Manav there.
If Manav has not supported Archu ,hell Archu has not too supported Manav..Right after 5 years leap Archu never understood Manav working long hours.She was always foolishly getting angry on Manav on him working hard (of course she was missing him but it always Manav who was asking sorry and not Archu there) .Manav was working hell hard so that Archu and his kids can get that life they were getting ,wear all good clothes and MAnav's dreams was to give Archu that life.Archu never understood that - a simple fact.Archu was still stuck up with mechanic Manav avatar and was not ready to move on ,she was more happy with mechanic Manav.One can understand that she wanted to spend time with her husband which is right and even though she knew Manav was slogging for her and kids,she still was angry on him (Manav had his share of faults too) and again mis-understandings kept coming up.It always needed Ashana to talk to either Manav or Archu to sort out the differences.
Right throughout the pregnancy track and chawl court case it was Sulo who kept telling Archu to try to understand Manav;s pain .Archu was always one-sided saying Manav is behaving the same and stuff but she never was seeing why he was doing so nor she ever tried to understand that he was innocent.
So blaming Manav here is totally totally unfair.Manav was totally wrong when in anger he fell for Dharmesh's plan that his daughters were not safe with Archu and decided to take his daughters away..
Manav in that scene when Archu hugged and said she will not go to court ,he was about to come back to his senses when Archu suddenly distanced herself and said she will give her daughters to him.Archu is a weak mother who did not fight for her own daughters,Archu is emotionally foolish who jumps to conclusion too easily just like Manav.
The trust that was needed between the two vanished in the court case due to simple mis-understandings which built up over a period of time.
Archu decided to believe chawls folks over Manav and Manav decided to beleive Savita over Archu.So both are at fault and this cannot be blamed on one person.
And Manav was angry with Archu during pregnancy but never ignored to take care of her.He was always there taking her to doc and doing what was needed to make sure her preganancy did not have any issues.Manav was angry at Archu but never ignored her condition or the baby.
IF Arman have to mend their mistakes first thing is start trusting each other and dont jump to conclusion on the other without thinking.Both need to keep their relationship as top priority and not last.Unless Arman build their strong trust again with each other even a small 10 year old kid could create a mis-understanding between them coz both jump to conclusions without thinking and they
loose trust over each other under critical situations.Both are at fault and both need to rectify it
Edited by Jaishankar - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Jai , we will definitely agree to disagree on the Chawl case .I strongly believe that if Archana did wrong then so did Manav on that situation .You say that Archana did not trust Manav ...I say Manav did not trust Archana and the minute his mother said , Archana is after money , he immediately believed her ...That was totally shocking for me ...anyway ..
If Manav felt that Archana is standing by her principles and not trusting him then he could have divorced her .many couples divorce because of imcompatibility and that was clearly the issue then ...so he should have taken that route .
But he did not ... after the court case was over , Archana and the Chawl people won the case ...he was OK with her ...Even after the Soham situation , he still send tickets to Archana not because he loved her but because he wanted a mother for his babies ...but he immediatly believed his mother when she saiod that Archana is a gold digger ...How could he believe something like that ,...that is what broke the relationship ..As for the Chawl case ...tell me , if Archana was so wrong then why has this been shown that twice manav has admitted that he was the one at wrong and not Archana ...
As for Archana not trusting him and not letting him work late ...so what Jai ..Wives do complain when Husbands are spending all the time at work ..She always showed him so much care ..She always loved him and took care of her family ...that was not lack of trust ,she did that because she would miss him
If you are talking about lack of trust then it was Manav who showed lack of trust when he trusted a cheap girl like Riya over Archana ..he trusted his mother Savita that Archana is neglecting Sachin , he trusted Dharmesh that his twins are in danger because of Archana ...
And of course then the biggest one ...trusting his mother that Archana is a gold digger ...
He himself said that he does not even know that meaning of Pavitra Rishta because he broke the trust that should have been between them .
The relationship survived because of the trust Archana had in their relationship ( because of their past ) ..Manav's lack of trust in Archana nearly finished everything .Why else do you think he was feelign so ashamed of himself in the mandir .Why else did her say that his whole life is not enough to undo the damage , that is because he has done the damage and not Archana ...
Talking about one odd suituation here and there is not the issue here .the writers of this show are clearly trying to tell us that Archana was the one who was wronged and who kept her faith in her relationship and her love ..And Manav was the one who wronged her by trusting his mother with his eyes closed ..That speech that manav gave when he found out the truth that says everything ...
The only thing Archana can be accused of is being a weak mother ..She could not protct Soham from Varsha and Ovi and Teju from Savita ..Yes that si where she is wrong .How I wish she did not love Manav so much , how I wish ...
But the lack of trust ...that accusation should only be pointed at Manav ...Archana in the last 18 years has proved it that she kept her faith and trust in her love and loved him so much that it enough for both of them ...
Edited by Tanyaz - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Tanyaz

Jai , we wil ldefinitely agree to disagree o nthe Chawl case .I strongly believe that if Archana did wrong then so did Manav on that situation .Yo usay that Archana did not trust Manav ...I say manav did not trust Archana and the minute his mother said , Archana is after money , he immediately believed her ...That was totall yshocking for me ...anyway ..

If Manav felt that Archana is standing by her principles and not trusting him then he could have divorced her .many couples divorce because of imcompatibility and that was clearly the issue then ...so he should have taken that route .
Bu the did not ... after the court case was over , Archana and the Chawl people won the case ...he was OK with her ...Even after the Soham situation , he stil lsend tickets to Archana not because he loved her but because he wanted a mother for his babies ...but he immediatly believed his mother when she saiod that Archana is a gold digger ...How could he believe somethign like that ,...tha tis what broke the relationship ..As for the Chawl case ...tell me , if Archaan was so wrong then why has this been shown that twice mana vhas admitted that he was the one at wrong and not Archana ...
As for Archana not trusting him and not letting him work late ...so what jai ..Wives do complain when Husbands are spending all the time at work ..She always showed him so much care ..She always loved him and took care of her family ...tha twas not lack of trust ,she did that because she would miss him
If you are talking about lack of trust then it was manav who showed lack of trust when he trusted a cheap girl like Riya over Archana ..he trusted his mother savita that Archana is neglecting sachin , he trusted Dharmesh that his twins are in danger because of Archana ...
And of course then the biggest one ...trusting his mother that Archana is a gold digger ...
He himself said that he does not even know that meaning of Pavitra Rishta because he broke the trust that should have been between them .


Again Tanya so Archu not trusting MAnav on chawl case is nothing is it..How can that be neglected..She blamed Manav that he was after Money..I ask how could she put such a blame on Manav..IF Manav believed his mom then Archu was no less in believing that Manav was after money..come on Tanya you cannot ignore that..its totally unfair to say that Archu is faultless and Manav is alone at fault..I can never agree to that it was Manav's fault alone especially in chawl case when he begged Archu for his innocence ,Archu did not budge in ..For her she trusted chawl folks more than her husband..so is that ok..come on Tanya..one cannot ignore that ..your wife believes others over you and Manav is suppose to be ok with it.
The main example is Ajit case in 2009..The very reason Arman split - so was ARchu faultless there and did she trust Manav there ..Again both are at fault for their relationship mess and it cannot be pointed to one person alone
How come Archu in a jiffy believed that Manav was behind money in chawl case..so is that ok then..
IF Manav in a jiffy trusted Savita ,so did Archu in a jiffy trusted the chawl folks..
The chawl case destructed Arman's relationship and trust and not chawl folks.Both are equally at fault.
And Manav equally took care of ARchu and her needs..Which damaad would bring his saas to his house just for his wife.HE did so much for his sasural just for his wife,he bought the flat for Sulo just for Archu..The list goes on..He has hell done a lot for Archu too..
After the chawl case he was ok it coz he loved Archu and not coz he felt she was not wrong.
He was trying his best to move on but was deeply hurt y the lack of trsut shown by Archu there.
Its totally unfair to say Archu was not at fault here..Both are equally at fault..IF Archu trusted Manav then the whole chawl case would not have happened.
CV's have ditched so much crap and senseless stuff that just Manav accepting that he was wrong and not Archu was equally senseless just like when Manav was shown lecturing Tej that how much he loved the chawl.So I will never go by the crap CV's show.ITs totally senseless and no logic.
For me both Manav and Archu are at fault.Archu is no saint and she has done many mistakes and Archu herself admitted that she did the mistake of trusting Varsha over her husband..so what does that say..is that not lack of trust..It is and Archu admitted it as well as Manav.
So both are at fault and its totally unfair to blame just blame Manav here and say ARchu is not at fault.
Just like Manav trusted others,Archu so has trusted others over Manav.So both are at fault and thats a simple fact.
IF MAnav did not trust or love Archu why did not marry Shravani and lived a life of Zombie..Every coin has two sides and CV's are portraying the other side too by showing how much indeed Manav has loved Archu and missed her.ITs not Archu alone who has suffered ,its Manav too. for the past 18 years living a life of a zombie.

This show is called PR for a reason..ITs not Archu's feelings alone,its Manav as well..Two hands make a clap and not one.That is what they are showing..Both love each other and both have made their mistakes and both are coming back together coz of the love they share for each other.The lost trust they had for each other is something they should try to mend it and I am hoping that is shown.

IF Arman have to mend it then both have to do it and not one-sided.
Edited by Jaishankar - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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That Ajit's case you mentioned ...you also mentioned the date 2009 ...it has been 3 years now Jai 😆 .Manav and Archana's relationship really started when Archana came to stay in his house for 3 months .That is when they really started to understand each other

Of course Archana was wrong ,she was young and hardly knew him ...but what about all that happened afterwards ,...
She went to his brother's engagemnt and there Manav 's mother called her a prostitiute ..Manav instead of siding with her told her to leave ...
and then she begged manav to believe that she was not the one who send his famil yt ojail but he did not trust her .My God , how he and his family punished Archana ..
Even after all she did for them , yo ustill remember that .Jai, she divorced him for Shravani ...what more could she have done to pay for that great sin .She divorced the man , I think that is the biggest punishment that she gave to herself ...
I am not going to go more in details now ..All I have to say is that Archana should not pay anymore for anything now .If I was the writer I would have never send her back to Manav .She should have lived her life in her own house but with her two daughters a part of her life ...
But I am not the writer and the show is in top 5 so let the writers do their job ..They know what they are doing .
That's it for me Jai ..I am tired now ...😆
Yo ualso take it easy my little buddy ..
Edited by Tanyaz - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Zee has started uploading PR episodes from start again 😊
Here one episode Zee has uploaded in you-tube:
Best part is Zee has added the original title song both at the start and also as end credits which we have not seen..Very nice indeed 😃..Enjoy dears..



PS : Tanya dear as usual who else I can interact with and enjoy the debate most than you 😆😉..Sorry for making you write so much 😆...You also take rest my dear 😊..

Edited by Jaishankar - 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Jaishankar

Zee has started uploading PR episodes from start again 😊

Here one episode Zee has uploaded in you-tube:
Best part is Zee has added the original title song both at the start and also as end credits which we have not seen..Very nice indeed 😃..Enjoy dears..



PS : Tanya dear as usual who else I can interact with and enjoy the debate most than you 😆😉..Sorry for making you write so much 😆...You also take rest my dear 😊..



Thank you so much Jai😊

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