Kool's Commentary : Sep 26 PR . - Page 14

Kools, yes those epic characters are from a bygone age but it is not as simple as "in their days man was allowed multiple wives, now the same is considered bigamy". Yes, laws have changed, society has changed, and what was considered moral then is immoral now. In those days, men married sisters, Amba, Ambika, Ambalika, sisters all, were all brought by Bhishma to marry his half brother. Perhaps the audience with the overdose of epics on indian TV and being familiar with these stories may very well welcome Arjun marrying Purvi.

Coming to us, if we can accept that laws have changed on one hand then why are we holding Arjun accountable to old world laws in another sense? We expect him to honor a marriage that was more of a coercion, why? merely because the wedding happened to take place in front of God? Taking that a step further, God is everywhere so it would be a sin for him to think of any woman in that fashion even his own wife wherever God was present. If backless blouses and tutu dresses are allowed in front of God, Arjun is surely permitted some license in imagination. I think he should sue the CVs for invasion of privacy, how dare they intrude into his private space?

In keeping with today's norms, divorce is common, even on frivolous grounds so yes, when the boy awakes from his self imposed stupor, I hope he does shake off the shackles of this unwanted mockery of a marriage and has the guts to go forward bravely to live his life.

Kalapi, I hope the Indian audience is informed enough to understand that in this day and age when most spouses are equal bread winners, they need not put up with a marriage they are unhappy in just for the sake of society or because they married in front of God.

Whether Ekta has the guts or not to show that true love is worth fighting for, I hope the youngsters watching the show understand that while life calls for adherence to certain societal values, it does not expect one to be languish in misery in trying to uphold a marriage that was a joke to begin with. Merely going through the motions of a marriage old world style (referring to mandir vs court marriage) does not a marriage make. We cannot pick and choose what old world values we will uphold and what we shall discard.

Originally posted by: Axiom

This show is really the best joke - especially on the viewers - for it doesn't teach anything of value. It should be the "What Not To Do" show. It demoralizes religion, culture, relationships and spirit. We all watch it though for the tamasha, don't we? 😉

We only saw Arjun's thoughts to sensationalize the situation - nothing more. The CVs are doing this to incite people's emotions and to get them talking about the show - case in point. I'm not trying to change anyone's opinion about what Arjun feels or his morals - its up to the viewer to decide. In the same breath, I'm not challenging anyone's moral/cultural/religious beliefs - simply stating my views as everyone else is doing.

Marriage and true love are not mutually exclusive. Both instances can co-exist in the same relationship and it doesn't have to be an either/or type situation. Love can either be classified as a gift from God or a chemical imbalance - anyone's choice - but same for Peter, same for Paul. One person's love is not above or below anyone else's. Ovi loves, Purvi loves, Arjun loves.

Morality and values are passed on from generation to generation and is greatly influenced by society. People adapt and change as is the way of the world - there's no survival without change. Religion does not escape this either. Any passage/verse can be interpreted so many different ways because that's how our minds were created. We receive information, comprehend and process and implement action. It is up to the individual to determine and fortify their own beliefs. Why compare humans to animals? It's apples to oranges.

Marriage is not a game and should not be portrayed as such either. In fact it took me by surprise that some are for the divorce so early. What it boils down to at this point in the show is that Arjun and Ovi are married. Ovi is trying to make her marriage work however she can and no one denies her that or is standing in her way. Arjun is trying to cope with the situation as best he could. He's trying to be civil to his wife even though his heart belongs to someone else. He gets marks for trying. Purvi is finding herself all sorts of projects to stay away from the both of them yet they both seem to seek her out, don't they? I do agree with Janhvi though. You cannot control someone's heart or mind simply because you've taken marriage vows together - the minds still work independently. You never know what the other person is thinking even those closest to you.

People can only be true to their nature as suggested earlier so that will be the determining factor in how this all unravels. In my humble opinion, God determines relationships. Families may marry their children but they cannot guarantee that relationship's success or happiness - it's up to the individuals to do that.

The spark of divinity within us guides our daily thoughts and actions - marriage is not exempt from that since you have to work at it just like anything else.

Anyway, enough of the serious for the week - I'd like to get back to fun.

Kools, I really think your commentary is hilarious and I quite enjoy it so thank you for regaling us with your takes on the daily episodes.

Thank you all for sharing your thoughts 😃

Laurie.. Awesome response..

To me Mind is GOD..if the Mind determines to go after Purvi, NOBODY can stop that.. Mind is very powerful. It decides your action whether it is short term or long term

God determines relationships. Families may marry their children but they cannot guarantee that relationship's success or happiness - it's up to the individuals to do that. Ok.. there are lot of serious writers in the forum but very few fun writers.. plz plz.. pretty plz.. do not join the serious writers group..I love fun Laurie more than serious Laurie..
Checkout Lalbaugh whatever (forgive me Bappa) SBS.. our lovely Punni is trying to burst Purvi's bubble.. off to work..serious business. cya...

I was going to post but Laurie, Jhanvi, V, Jo..u have covered all points so beautifully. :)

Originally posted by: jdronamraju

How is Armaan divorce case and Arjun--Ovi divorce case if arises, be judged on the same basis? Armaan were married for a few years, lived as husband and wife, had kids in the equation. how is that the same as Arjun-Ovi marriage which is in name only and is of a few days or even weeks.
You are right, when you say courts do not advocate divorce without an effort. But, that is primarily in the case, when there are children involved, not in such 'in name only' cases.

Arman first divorce or what of it was because the marriage (arranged was based on a pack of lies😃) and so my reference to Araman...in that event too (I think Sulo wanted the divorce) the court ordered a 3 or 6 months stay depending on the old and new veiwer's storyline...there is the similarity...

I did not understand the reference to bigamy here. Where does the question of bigamy arise?
By definition, Bigamy means the criminal offense of marrying one person while still legally married to another. Arjun and Purvi are not marrying each other as long as he is married to Ovi. The topic in question is Arjun being in love with Purvi even after he is married to Ovi. Isnt it? In a situation such as this, how do we expect people to fall out of love in a matter of days, and get all pally with the new wife, who is one of the reasons for his misery? According to me, the main reason. may not be for some, but that is not the point here. It is a matter of heart than anything else. I repeat, again, yes, it is not a switch to be turned off. If a one-sided love could not die even after knowing that the person who you are in love with is totally committed to another girl, even after witnessing it for a month, then how do you expect the same guy to forget his love in a matter of days? Why is there such a disparity in judgement? Just because, there was a name sake marriage? They are not sages or holy men/women to have such great self restraint to do this in such short period of time.

My post was in reply to JAnhvi;s (although yesterday I wasn't able to quote😕, now I can and hopefully forum will not freeze on me)...so far Arjun and Purvi doesn't fall in that category...I wasn't trying to cook anything up here 😃...

In my POV, Ovi isn't the reson of Arjun's misery, he himself is and Purvi is too...Purvi let Ovi come between the two...we definitely don't see eye to eye in this...so why debate...

Arjun need not forget is love in matter of a month...but need to show self restraint...my prehistoric POV again...

I think the indian audience are being grossly underestimated if we think that a divorce between people who do not want to live with each other is imagined to be a impossible situation to be accepted. In such cases, a divorce is filed under Incompatibility.
And when it comes to divorces, much wierder cases are seen and heard, forget the case of sisters as you mentioned. And as far as indian TV audience, they have seen I am sure, in the hundreds of soaps that are shown in all channels, much wierder stories than this and have been accepted with aplomb 😊..The TRP janta, as we have seen, thrives on melodrama and what can be more melodramatic than this? :)

Yes, I want to see too that...and see how Ekta and Indian audience take it...so why isn't Arjun isn't submitting a divorce application...what is preventing him or the CVs...have been asking for divorce right after the marriage...infact has been one of the first to ask Arjun why isn't he or Cvs going that route...am very interested in the track...

So, yes, as a modern reader, I am advocating that a couple who are not in love with each other, or rather, if one is in love with someone else, should not be living with each other. And also, would like to see the new wife to be herself and not try to become a clone of his love, but stand up for herself and try to win him on her own terms, who should not have hankered for a man who really does not want her in the first place. In essence, want her to be the modern woman.
But, will the writers let her be that, dont think so. Will they let the divorce happen so easily, dont think s. Will anyone come out of this unscathed, dont think so either. Unless something drastic happens, which I have no clue what it can be as of now, there will be a price to pay by all three of them, for they have all 'sinned' in their own way. I do not mean in the exact meaning of it. but, you get my point.

Originally posted by: soapwatcher1

Kools, yes those epic characters are from a bygone age but it is not as simple as "in their days man was allowed multiple wives, now the same is considered bigamy". Yes, laws have changed, society has changed, and what was considered moral then is immoral now. In those days, men married sisters, Amba, Ambika, Ambalika, sisters all, were all brought by Bhishma to marry his half brother. Perhaps the audience with the overdose of epics on indian TV and being familiar with these stories may very well welcome Arjun marrying Purvi.

Yes, socio-economic changed as happened...the story you talked about happened in the ancient era of history...surely the societies have evolved over the ages...so, yes, I am curious, if the modern audience with an overdose of the epics will go for it...looking around my life in here and in India, I haven't seen any such examples...rather older generations don't advocate such marriages...even marriages where a brother married a bhabi to keep the wealth within the family, isn't really encouraged much these days...atleast, I have seen much examples...but, I might be wrong...so, I ask again, Why isn't Arjun filing for a divorce???...why isn't Cv going that route??

Coming to us, if we can accept that laws have changed on one hand then why are we holding Arjun accountable to old world laws in another sense? We expect him to honor a marriage that was more of a coercion, why? merely because the wedding happened to take place in front of God? Taking that a step further, God is everywhere so it would be a sin for him to think of any woman in that fashion even his own wife wherever God was present. If backless blouses and tutu dresses are allowed in front of God, Arjun is surely permitted some license in imagination. I think he should sue the CVs for invasion of privacy, how dare they intrude into his private space?

I for one wants him to file that divorce😃...as for the coersion - who forced him to marry OVI...Ovi herself??? Purvi??? isn't it an oxymoron in a sense, that a successful business man who was shown cracking up complicated deals buckles under pressure by his GF and commits to marry a third entity against his wish...a 5 yr old so are we assuming that he isn't as successful as we were shown, rather a 5 yr old lead into a 'forced' marriage by Purvi...well, well, anything to make you happy dear...anything, for you...as for me...I don't see he was forced into anything...he as an adult, was playing adult games...now that the time has come...he is trying to run in another direction...

As for the sin part of him thinking of another women...no one is preventing him dear...he, if you ask me, can fantasize...what they say...ahem😳...ahem😳, with Purvi in his dreams dear...but, if the Cvs shows us his dream, I as a viewer could conclude many things that lacks mortal and ethical yardsticks and to me are sinful of course, (I never confessed that my thought process is modern and I accept anything in the name of love)...The cvs could have let us imagine what he was thinking without explicitly showing us anything...then it could have been left to our imagination dear...but it didn't happen that way...

In keeping with today's norms, divorce is common, even on frivolous grounds so yes, when the boy awakes from his self imposed stupor, I hope he does shake off the shackles of this unwanted mockery of a marriage and has the guts to go forward bravely to live his life.

Kalapi, I hope the Indian audience is informed enough to understand that in this day and age when most spouses are equal bread winners, they need not put up with a marriage they are unhappy in just for the sake of society or because they married in front of God.

Janhvi, I too hope most couples will not put up with anything in the name of a marriage..it isn't worth it, especially if there are incidences of domestic violence both mental and physical or other unethical reason. But in the absence of any such reasons, a marriage should be given a fair chance and tried out for a period of time. if even after a period of time, a marriage doesn't work out, couple can definitely walk out of a relationship.

As of Arvi, I don't think, that they were forced into the marriage...we have different POV here, Arjun married Ovi to please Purvi, that is all...no case of domestic violence here...Ovi is rather trying to work on the marriage...and if we take into account Arjun's response, he is getting there too...besides, not to forget, this alliance was actually planned between Manav and Deshmukhs to begin with...so a fair try is the call of the day here...besides, as I do believe in the institution on arranged marriage and that love can happen more than one...I believe these two can work on their marriage and make it successful...nothing so far as I have seen looked forced or abusive to me...so why divorce without any strong reason...just because Arvi was in love before...sorry, that isn't any reason according to me to make marriage a mockery...as they say, marriages are made in heaven and no one can control birth, marriages and death...😃, so Arjun Ovi's marriage was predestined😃

Whether Ekta has the guts or not to show that true love is worth fighting for, I hope the youngsters watching the show understand that while life calls for adherence to certain societal values, it does not expect one to be languish in misery in trying to uphold a marriage that was a joke to begin with. Merely going through the motions of a marriage old world style (referring to mandir vs court marriage) does not a marriage make. We cannot pick and choose what old world values we will uphold and what we shall discard.

Kalapi,

Kool…I actually agree with you regarding Purvi….I was thinking the same while driving to Work (Varsha, PR nightmares😉) today…I thought she had a good point in this issue, yes, albeit a bit late in her game of priorities, and lead Arjun on for 6 months, but she finally figured out her priority list...but, then she is 18 too, so can make mistakes..She decided that Archana and her family was her priority over Arjun…nothing wrong with that…how she went about is was wrong…she could have refused the marriage and the let the elders know instead of making sure Arjun gets married to Ovi. To me here, Purvi took a decision on behalf of Arjun that is forcing him to marry Ovi…this is where she is wrong….Arjun accepting to marry Ovi just to prove his love for Purvi was wrong too.. But, at least I can see Purvi's POV, as of Arjun, I can't see any POV…instead of marrying Purvi, he could have trying jumping off that Cliff just to see Purvi's reaction…he neither walked off from the marriage nor jumped off the cliff….instead chose to marry Ovi….oh well, viewers just blame Ovi in the mess….extremely convenient….But, interesting we the viewers can't accept Purvi decision and we think Ovi is to be blamed….as I can modern life's conveniences of how we manipulate situations that best suits our way of reasoning…

And yes, Kool…I think price will be a kid…and not necessarily Purvi's…that is my prediction..😃

Originally posted by: jdronamraju

Kalapi,

I am more a PR II viewer, in the sense, that I have started watching PR only beg of this year, I have a sketchy idea of the story before that, but not all the details.

What is the divorce that you mentioned in your reply. Was there another divorce track for Armaan before this one? or am I understanding it wrong?

Yes, JD…this is Atman third marriage/divorce track..😆😆😆

First was divorce/marriage after 15 days, when Sulo realized that Manav is a mechanic…it got complicated with Ajit in the picture where Archu was framed a prostitute….😃

Second marriage/divorce was MAnav/Shravani/Arch track after Sachin senior's death😃

Third was Court case/Soham accident…😃...🤣 and we call it Pavitra Rishta

Originally posted by: Kalapi

Yes, JD'this is Atman third marriage/divorce track..😆😆😆

First was divorce/marriage after 15 days, when Sulo realized that Manav is a mechanic'it got complicated with Ajit in the picture where Archu was framed a prostitute'.😃

Second marriage/divorce was MAnav/Shravani/Arch track after Sachin senior's death😃

Third was Court case/Soham accident'😃...🤣 and we call it Pavitra Rishta

OH MY, 3 times !!! 😆... Ok, thanks for the info...😃