Kool's Commentary : Sep 26 PR . - Page 12

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Dabulls23 thumbnail
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Posted: 13 years ago
Jyoti or Vila no where I said this was marked territory nor used words like "WE or US"
WHat makes u even think or say that? 😕
Just because I mentioned some names 😳 I was not quoting anyone was I? 😕
SO do not read more than its there ya ..I could have very well ignored both..SIlly MOI I see what is happening...So Carry on..
BTW thanks Vila for the unconditional love...was not aware of that until now...😃
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Posted: 13 years ago
Sorry for the double post. For some reason, instead of updating, it just added a new one. IF has been behaving strange today. Had a lot of refresh issues too..
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: Dabulls23

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<font color="#660099">Jyoti or Vila no where I said this was marked territory nor used words like "WE or US"

WHat makes u even think or say that? 😕


Just because I mentioned some names 😳 I was not quoting anyone was I? 😕

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<font color="#660099">SO do not read more than its there ya ..I could have very well ignored both..SIlly MOII see what is happening...So Carry on..</font>

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<em><font color="#660099">BTW thanks Vila for the unconditional love...was not aware of that until now...😃</font>


Varsha, did u know Isha dropped out of Jdj?
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Posted: 13 years ago
Feelings don't have an on and off button but human beings are not animals to give i in to each instinct right . Does this mean give in to each feeling and instinct and justify it as 'true love' . How about exercising self restraint . In my opinion these r mere justifications for doing what one wants . I beleve its an Indian serial we r saying that boasts of 'values' , What values may i ask . 😆 Its my opinion that the values shown are ridiculous . Lets accept this argument that morality is subjective . Don't beleve in the instititution of marraige . Believe in pyaar then . Whats then stopping Arjun from filing immediately for divorce . A sign from his ladylove i guess . When she gives it the divorce will be filed coz this is 'true love' .😆
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Posted: 13 years ago
It is the CV's who are stopping it, Kools !! 😃
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Posted: 13 years ago
I am not going quote anybody here.. just my POV..

Arjun and Purvi are STILL in love with each other.. nobody can deny that.. Purvi gave up her love and Ovi married him.. and Arjun told Ovi that he is still very much in love with Purvi, she is his life and he doesnt know when or whether he will ever be able to get over her...

It has just been few days or a week since the wedding and he is trying his level best to be civil with Ovi.. If I were in his place, I would not have looked at her face for a while..So, he is trying to make things easy for everybody,

Having said this, Do u still think that the Ganesh Chaturthi eye-lock is a big deal..whether it is accidental or intentional. Give them some time.. I dont think the three of them have figured out things yet.. I agree that they are married and there is nothing to figure out yada yada yada...

I do see that Ovi IS very uncomfortable in this situation, but she is helpless. For what she did, she may have to wait few months or few years or life long. As Laurie said, there is no Off button for feelings to just switch off instantaneously.
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Feelings don't have an on and off button but human beings are not animals to give i in to each instinct right . Does this mean give in to each feeling and instinct and justify it as 'true love' . How about exercising self restraint . In my opinion these r mere justifications for doing what one wants . I beleve its an Indian serial we r saying that boasts of 'values' , What values may i ask . 😆 Its my opinion that the values shown are ridiculous . Lets accept this argument that morality is subjective . Don't beleve in the instititution of marraige . Believe in pyaar then . Whats then stopping Arjun from filing immediately for divorce . A sign from his ladylove i guess . When she gives it the divorce will be filed coz this is 'true love' .😆

Arjun has not done anything immoral, he is in love with Purvi and until he remains in love these thoughts of her perhaps will involuntarily arise.
Animals act on instincts, being human ( I remember Kalapi's lovely reference that humans are animals as well), Arjun does restrain himself from acting on impulse. Arjun is not acting on his thoughts and if he is not acting on those "baser" impulses and is staying true 'bodily' to Ovi on the principles of marriage, there is not much that can be said against him. She did buy his name but not his soul, not his heart. For that, she has work to do. It may happen in time but we need to give him some space until then. As Laurie puts it, emotions cannot be turned off like a switch or a tap.
Values can be personal and/or cultural and both are societal in a sense. This set of rules by which he is supposed to act imprinted on Arjun by his upbringing (personal) and the expectations of society (cultural values) is what is stopping Arjun from romancing Purvi in real life. His dream world is off limits even to his wife.
And let us not forget what is ethical or valued in one circumstance may not be ethical in a different scenario, yes, it is relative and subjective to the person, place and circumstance. For instance, Dashrath having 3 wives, Arjun having several wives, Krishna being married to Sathyabhama and Rukmani are all part of Indian mythology and even revered to some degree, none of these instances are frowned upon yet in today's society a man with more than one wife is a bigamist. What is wrong, what is right changes with society and cultural norms of the day.
Edited by soapwatcher1 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
Hello all, jumping in with both feet. Kools, funny stuff again. Punni romancing DK..I dont think the poor viewer needs to be subjected to that horror yet.

As for the unholy triangle of Arjun, Ovi and Purvi. Its a funny, funny mess. I just dont get Ovi. How is she in this relationship? What did she want from it? A label of being Arjun's wife or his love? I think the latter and if that is indeed the case, why does she not realize he has none for her. This is not about Purvi. I think Ovi really wanted to be with someone she grew up with - sort of as a safety net for this motherless child (yes motherless until recently). Arjun was a good friend and judging by everything, maybe one of her few friends. She then superimposed their friendship on her loneliness and then he became the lifeline she needed. I think Ovi never has been with another man and so much for her Canadian upbringing, didnt really date around..she is really naive in the affairs of the heart. This is a starter relationship with her and something that is sure to end in a heartbreak. The maturing of Ovi needs to happen and happen it will. Its not about Archana's greatness or any such cr*p. Ovi is a very impressionable 18 year old that has serious issues. She needs to know that manipulating people into doing favorable things for her will only go so far.

Purvi, the eternally grateful child. Archana has with her infinite decency to Purvi made her indebted to her all her life. Purvi has imbibed Archana's selflessness (as foolish as it was) and is repaying her mother in her own coin. One of these days Archana should just call it as she sees - that Purvi need not repay her anymore. Purvi's debt is complete. By letting Arjun go, Purvi gave Archana everything Purvi could. She has nothing left. What she is doing with finding Soham is in fact gravy. I think this situation is really created for Purvi to stay in limelight because despite being a parallel lead, her real role is minimal as she is theoretically out of Arjun's life.

Arjun the pitiable. I dont think the penny has dropped in Arjun's head about the mortality of his marriage with Ovi. I think he is trying to live life according to Purvi's diktat. One of these days and a day when something dramatic like Purvi's well being is in question, he will wake up to the fact that he can no longer carry the charade of being in a relationship with someone who he cant love.

I think the drama is very complicated and contrived and gives so much room to discussion...sort of like everything is grey, nobody is pure white or black.



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Posted: 13 years ago
Krishna having many wives and Dasharatha having many wives was very much according to dharma in that yuga .

It is not so in this age .

The laws have changed for Hindus and if u feel u have made a mistake file for divorce is the legal necessity . Originally Hinduism did not even acknowledge divorce . Today they do .

Arjun has not done anything immoral although he had a vivid dream in front of the Ganesh idol coz hes in love and feelings cannot be switched off ...neither in front of god nor in a state of life called marraige is the argument and justification for his acts .

Who says feelings go away in one day ? But mental self discipline is the essence of Indian culture and this serial constantly talks of ' Humaara India' all the time .

Whether its Krishna's age ...the Dwaparyuga or the age today Kaliyuga ... one did not play around with god and marraige . Some things never change . The seriousness of the institution of marraige remained then and it is so even now although a restriction has come on the number of wives.

There was no need to do pheras in a temple then . One could have done a court marraige and as easily divorced too . According to me God was trivialised twice in this serial ...when the marrige was done in front of him but now it is being justified that feelings' are more important as they simple cannot be controlled . Second time was the dream before him .

And it still does not answer my question ...why not file for a divorce . It is in perfect accordance with his feelings actually . Whose permission is being waited for here and what reason do they need . Give importance to 'feelings' and divorce Ovi . It may not be a mutual consent divorce and Arjun will have a lot of explaining to do in front of an irate judge who will ask him the same question ...is marriage a gudda guddi khel or what . Still it can be done . If Ovi is so bad she will walk away with half his property for his lovelorn costly mistake but still it can be done . Why then is he not going for it . Waitting for what . Don't believe in marriage ...atheist ...or hardened enough to conveniently use god or hypocitically use him ...whatever . Divorce na . Don't stay for a moment in this loveless marraige .
Edited by koolsadhu1000 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago

True Humans are animals (although right now for the life of me, I can't remember the context), but what differentiate Humans from animals are the use of 'fire' (meaning using this tool to devastating level) and the power to 'differentiate between 'good and evil'...for what is the difference between the dogs in the street of Mumbai who openly engages in a sexual act compared to human's who also engages in such acts, but in the privacy of their home...or the difference between the lion killing its prey for food or if threatened and the Hilter's invasion of Poland or people killing animals not necessarily for food or dominance, but for mere sports or trophies...so the 'intent' are different and hopefully depends of the thought process on "good vs evil' and the act of self restraint or the lack of it...

Modern Indian society does not allow bigamy, although it was once practised. In fact, I hear many countries in African allow active bigamy...does it matter in the context of an Indian serial, though? Rather as modern readers will we advocate such actions, which basically degrades women? In Western Societies, 'live in' are extremely popular and the few couple who are in a 'live in' relationship, all tells me to avoid tax payments (and here I talk both about US and Canada)...so, the couples preferring to do a 'live in' do it because of tax evasion not necessarily any other reason. Indian customs doesn't encourage such acts nor encourage divorces without an effort...see how Ekta Mata gave twice 6 months 'trial' period to Arman...by that same logic, in Arjun/Ovi's case same logic is applicable...but, even I want to see how progressive is Ekta and Indian audience to watch a 'divorce' for love to someone else...yes, I too want to see Arjun applying for a divorce...could love to see the Indian audience reception of that idea...

I, also want to see how Indian audience, in general, are receptive to the idea of a Man divorcing one sister to get married to another (even if you don't believe Ovi and Purvi are sisters), I could like to see how receptive Indian audience and Ekta is to such an idea of marriage as an institution is belittled beyond my belief...my POV is that if Arvi is to unite, there is only one way...and that comes with a price...this seed has probably been sowed today...in my POV

Edited by Kalapi - 13 years ago

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