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Posted: 13 years ago
#21
Awesome post @Bee

U speak mi mind from Point4.
oooh!

Archana is very proactive and so is Purvi when it comes to others. what happens when its for them or for manav or for arjun or the twins.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#22

to whom it may concern,
would you mind change your font size to normal (size 2)..it feels like you're shouting when you post something with big size font.
thanks in advance...no offense.
just a simple request.

sincerely,
someone who always and love to read your post. 😊


Edited by sipokobusak - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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No offence taken either. I can understand how irritating a huge font can be. And thanks a lot for the kind words.

I am sorry, but I have problems reading and typing at any font size below 3. That is this size. It seems to me to be quite acceptable and not too large.

I wonder if I could somehow ascertain whether it is the same size when it gets to you or does it somehow become larger than this. I have occasionally seen, in the sent version of the post, that the font expands for no reason at all , and in such cases I had sent a follow up post apologising for that.

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Originally posted by: sipokobusak


to whom it may concern,
would you mind change your font size to normal (size 2)..it feels like you're shouting when you post something with big size font.
thanks in advance...no offense.
just a simple request.

sincerely,
someone who always and love to read your post. 😊


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

No offence taken either. I can understand how irritating a huge font can be. And thanks a lot for the kind words.

I am sorry, but I have problems reading and typing at any font size below 3. That is this size. It seems to me to be quite acceptable and not too large.

I wonder if I could somehow ascertain whether it is the same size when it gets to you or does it somehow become larger than this. I have occasionally seen, in the sent version of the post, that the font expands for no reason at all , and in such cases I had sent a follow up post apologising for that.

Shyamala B.Cowsik



oh i see..
my apology...
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Posted: 13 years ago
#25
I agree with you all on this. Some of the things that bee pointed out are so right..
What bothers Tej is the fact that Archana has done this, after saying to Savita that Arjun is not good for either Purvi or Ovi. If that is what Archana believes totally, then the question of issuing a challenge does not arise at all. Once a challenge is out, however tough, there is always a chance that it will happen. I dont think the amount should be a question here, doesnt matter small or big, it is the whole idea of opening options to the other person is in question here.
I think the problem here is that Archana in her infinite self-rightenousness got over-zealous and threw this challenge out. We have seen how self contradicting she was in that marathon yelling. There is no sequential thinking in that whole process. Granted, in fit of anger, you dont think logically, but atleast stick to your initial reaction that you do not want this to happen. It was just metted out in emotional hysteria rather than maturity. If she had given the other person to talk, doesnt matter Arjun, Purvi, Sulo, then it gives her some control over her thoughts and actions. NO, she had to go on and on and on... As I have said before, she did NOT do this for Purvi.
She did it because of Ovi, and that is my firm belief.
Tej is also upset by the fact that because of this whole fiasco, one of her best friends, who is a highly educated, wealthy, sauve businessman is reduced to work in a blue collar job as a mechanic and living in a chawl...That outraged her too...She may or may not approve of ARVI, that doesnt matter. But, she sees her friend's state as a result of Archana's action.
As we have always said, Archana for some reason cannot make a meaningful, coherent sentence in the Deshmukh house. She tries sometimes but not really when it is relevant. I think when Ovi was complaining to Manav, she just couldnt muster enough courage to speak out and was more worried that they would find out. It is going to happen at some point, isnt it? Who is facing the flak now? Quite a few times, because of her small mistakes, she suffers a lot of consequences. She doesnt seem to learn. For all her love for Manav, she seems nowadays, more scared of him, his reactions and to top it all, their communication is abysmal. Quite a few of their problems in their marriage, as I see, are due to this - lack of or miscommunications. That is the biggest difference between them and ARVI.
Obviously, Tej is upset with Archana. Anyone would be in her position. She was the only one who recognized the good in Archana, experienced her warmth and love for 3 months, gave her a chance even after she knew the truth. But, now, she is not sure what to think of her mother. Everything her Aaji said all these years seem to be coming out true. Her mother's contradictory actions are confusing her. She really is not bothered about Arjun and Purvi (atleast to some extent), she is more upset that knowing Ovi's condition, Archana has done this and not only that she has not told them about it. If probably, Archana would have disclosed this to them convincingly, her reaction would have been a little different.
But, realistically, if you think about it, I am not really sure about that, as maybe there would have been hell to pay for Archana. It is not easy to live in the Deshmukh house and face all of them and tell them what she did. It might have been a disaster too.. Easy to say it after the fact...Archana is stuck in an impossible situation there, ofcourse, in some ways of her own making. To be fair to her, imagine saying it to a team of a horrible MIL, daughters who hate her, a momma's boy of a husband, and the ever glowering step son. It is not a easy task and am sure we dont envy her that.
But, one thing is sure that Teju knows that it is impossible for Ovi to get back with Arjun. Knowing her friend, she got that from the conversation. Now, she has to face the impossible challenge of getting her lunatic sister to face the reality and save her from inflicting damage on herself and on others. She has my sympathies on this. Her parents seem to be clueless on helpling Ovi, has an useless brother who doesnt even seem to realise the extent of damage. It is all left to her now.
So, YES, at the end of this, I have no issues with how Teju reacted and totally understand where she is coming from.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Dear Jyoti,

First of all, I am glad that you see where I was coming from and that you share my viewpoint on Teju.

This said, yours is such a clear, comprehensive and coherent post that I can think of nothing substantive to add to it, except that I cannot for the life of me understand WHY Archana threw that challenge at Arjun at all when she was dead set against his marriage with Purvi. It is senseless to take the risk of his picking up the gauntlet and winning as well.

That is why she is now trying to reassure herself by asserting to Purvi, every chance she gets, that Arjun is going to flunk the test as he is a softie and cannot take the stress of a garage job and chawl life. It is like whistling in the dark to keep your spirits up.

I think, as I have noted elsewhere, that Archana believes that Arjun will fail because she wants him to fail. That would suit her much better, otherwise, as she tells Sulochana after that ghastly scene when she slapped and berated Purvi, what face would she show to Manav and Ovi?

But then what of Purvi? Archana does not want to feel guilty about the suffering this will cause Purvi. What then is the way out? Why, just declare that Purvi is not in love with Arjun, she simply 'thinks' that she is in love with him! It is like what Humpty Dumpty says in Alice in Wonderland, " A word means what I say it means, neither more nor less".

Finally, I especially liked two passages from your post (reproduced below). You have captured the essence of Teju's present predicament very neatly.

Shyamala

Tej is also upset by the fact that because of this whole fiasco, one of her best friends, who is a highly educated, wealthy, sauve businessman is reduced to work in a blue collar job as a mechanic and living in a chawl...That outraged her too...She may or may not approve of ARVI, that doesnt matter. But, she sees her friend's state as a result of Archana's action.

But, one thing is sure that Teju knows that it is impossible for Ovi to get back with Arjun. Knowing her friend, she got that from the conversation. Now, she has to face the impossible challenge of getting her lunatic sister to face the reality and save her from inflicting damage on herself and on others. She has my sympathies on this. Her parents seem to be clueless on helpling Ovi, has an useless brother who doesnt even seem to realise the extent of damage. It is all left to her now.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Throwing the challenge is just a random, unplanned, unthought of action from Archana. That has always been one of her issues. She reacts emotionally, and in her swing of ranting against Arjun, she did it. She made a wrong judgement there, not realizing it is Arjun she is against. The guy is a smart, very intelligent, daring business guy..he is not going to back off from a challenge...That is the biggest mistake she made in this matter.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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My dear Shyamala,
Loved your post...👏 could not have been put better from the character Tej's perspective. And some nice new words for me to learn too 😉
What puzzled me too in yesterday's episode was - as you mentioned- how was Archana - so smiley and nice to Purvi- i thought perhaps - Archana is trying to cover up her guilt- guilt in the sense- she knows the problems of Kharcha at the Karanjkar house and the household budget not being balanced, she has the two FDs, but in Tej and Ovi's name (nothing in Purvi's name 😔- perhaps becoz it was Manav's money and is therefore rightfully Tej and Ovi's???) and she is renewing them in their name, without any regard to household expenses here. Archana can buy lavish gifts for Ovi but cannot help with the household expenses at the K house- as she is living at the Deshmuck (spelling incorrect) house-? This all does not make sense and especially - Archana's attitude towards Purvi- like you said if it were my child- who i had loved and cherished for 18+ years, i would surely sit her down and at least attempt to know the truth and her heart's desire.
And what to say of Ms. Purvi's- trying to be all goody for Aaie- asking for permission for a good deed and such a small one at that- of giving tuitions to help balance the household budget...could not have said it better than your post...
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Posted: 13 years ago
#29
Bee fabulous post and agree with all your points well put..
To me reg her challenge to arjun, EIther she really is dumb or she is tooo shrewed..
She never walks the talk that she talks..

She always takes wrong decisions at the wrong time..
Her actions are always opposite to what they should be.
She plays Passive when she needs to be assertive and she acts extremely aggressive when she needs to just be normal..
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Dear bee5,

I am sorry that I forgot to address the question @green in your post. I am a bit confused now, and I am afraid I do not know how to give the exact coordinates for each post as you do so efficiently, but I think they were in the July 4 Brief Update thread. I remember a very strong one from esha, and another from aishu_25. I replied to both of them, and it was only after doing so that the idea of this post came to me. There might be others as well.

Shyamala

Dear Shyamala,
I haven't read a lot of posts so I don't know where Teju's actions are being criticized (would definitely like to read them if you can give me reference).

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