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Posted: 14 years ago
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Agree with u totally, Manav was wrong..
This is the first time Archana attended a high profile party, she is not at all aware of those culture.
Manav was upset fine, he could have consoled her as she was insulted so much and taken her home and spoke to her that she needs to get aware of other stuff too and asked her to improve upon english too or join a crash course, then it would have been really nice.Archana is not the one who will not listen to him, she wud do what he wud say.. he was very insensitive towards her , his words was really harsh towards her..

And when this manav is so strong and talks so harshly to his wife then y couldn he talk harshly to his wife and stopped soham taken by varsha?? he was so rude today then y was he calm til now?? is it only his ego that hurts him and he yells when his ego is hurt and not when soham is taken away??? is ego more important then soham?? he should have yelled at her when she sent soham with varsha, that wud have made sense, and not yelling cos she couldnt manage to talk in english.. he could hav behaved the same then, but y did he stay quiet??.

y should archana be the only sole reason for all mistakes..
And i would prefer archana not going with him again to parties if this how he is going to treat her rather than make her aware of the outside culture..

Instead of yelling at her and making her feel guilty, i think manav needs to sit with her and explain her that he expects few things from her and he wants her to be good at english and even maintain other works of his.. He needs to advice her as she is a simple girl who is not aware of the outside world that he is talking about, all he needs to do is just a simple advice in calm words..

Few years back, even manav dint knew a word in english, it was archu who helped him fill the bank form, i think nobody wud have liked archu yelling at him that he couldn even fill a bank form..

Once in a party , when manav was a waiter and when all insulted him, archu stood up for him and his self respect and defended him.. She played the role of a wife so well, she couldn stand him getting insulted so she spoke for him but what did she get in return when she was humiliated , manav also humiliated her much more..

Just because he put some money on her in bank , doesnt mean he needs to be respected for the bad behaviour of his towards her..

If he wants her to change then he need to tell her wat he expects from her..

he can share all his feelings and private matter with ashna but not with archana..
He wanted ashna to explain him that he was wrong??
and i think manav listens to everything that ashna says now..

he was extremely insensitive towards her, and i hate him, period..
I hate men who cant stand up for their wives even when they need them the most..

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Divya , you hate Manav ????? 😭 He is a nice man ...😒 Believe me , he loves Archu a lot ...
It's even Archu's fault na ?
She is not trying to understand his point of view ...I know he should not have blasted her for not speaking English but she also is not understanding that he has changed but for the better ...
That is why now he is getting more close to Ashna because Ashna understands him better than Archana ...
I know it is not good and he should make Archana sit and have a talk with her without getting angry instead of all the time talking to Ashna about his marriage problems ...
Yesterday the way he explained to Archu about talking to the bank was very good and Archana immediately listened , did not take any offense and did the job properly .
Archana is not an unreasonable persn and if he talks to her nicely then of course she will do whatever he tells her ...
That is his mistake that he is not tackling it in the right way ...But there is no one who loves Archana more than him ...that I am very sure of ...
Edited by Tanyaz - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: LovePRSoham

I totally agree with you... Very Well Said Sudha 👍🏼

I still cant digest Manav did all this to Archana...
He reminded me of Ajit... Once Ajit slapped Vandu as he was angry on his mom and showed it on Vandu and escaped...
Manav did the same thing... He was angry at Dharmesh but what did he do??? Easy Escape.. took out his anger his wife...



I agree, Manav kind of reminded me of Ajit today, I know that was not really nice of Manav, and maybe he should have not shouted as much, he should shout at her more for the Soham issue.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ankifan

Agree with u totally, Manav was wrong..
This is the first time Archana attended a high profile party, she is not at all aware of those culture.
Manav was upset fine, he could have consoled her as she was insulted so much and taken her home and spoke to her that she needs to get aware of other stuff too and asked her to improve upon english too or join a crash course, then it would have been really nice.Archana is not the one who will not listen to him, she wud do what he wud say.. he was very insensitive towards her , his words was really harsh towards her..

And when this manav is so strong and talks so harshly to his wife then y couldn he talk harshly to his wife and stopped soham taken by varsha?? he was so rude today then y was he calm til now?? is it only his ego that hurts him and he yells when his ego is hurt and not when soham is taken away??? is ego more important then soham?? he should have yelled at her when she sent soham with varsha, that wud have made sense, and not yelling cos she couldnt manage to talk in english.. he could hav behaved the same then, but y did he stay quiet??.

y should archana be the only sole reason for all mistakes..
And i would prefer archana not going with him again to parties if this how he is going to treat her rather than make her aware of the outside culture..

Instead of yelling at her and making her feel guilty, i think manav needs to sit with her and explain her that he expects few things from her and he wants her to be good at english and even maintain other works of his.. He needs to advice her as she is a simple girl who is not aware of the outside world that he is talking about, all he needs to do is just a simple advice in calm words..

Few years back, even manav dint knew a word in english, it was archu who helped him fill the bank form, i think nobody wud have liked archu yelling at him that he couldn even fill a bank form..

Once in a party , when manav was a waiter and when all insulted him, archu stood up for him and his self respect and defended him.. She played the role of a wife so well, she couldn stand him getting insulted so she spoke for him but what did she get in return when she was humiliated , manav also humiliated her much more..

Just because he put some money on her in bank , doesnt mean he needs to be respected for the bad behaviour of his towards her..

If he wants her to change then he need to tell her wat he expects from her..

he can share all his feelings and private matter with ashna but not with archana..
He wanted ashna to explain him that he was wrong??
and i think manav listens to everything that ashna says now..

he was extremely insensitive towards her, and i hate him, period..
I hate men who cant stand up for their wives even when they need them the most..



@divya, I know you are extremely angry with Manav, and to some extent even I am a tad upset that he yelled and shouted, but the good thing is Manav still loves his wife a lot, and will always stand by her. This was a normal husband wife argument, and Manav definitely loves Archana way more than Ashna, although I do think Ashna should not interfere in ArMan's personal life so much.

@bold part, I wouldn't hate Manav at all, what he said was harsh, but he had a point as well, and he was also emotional, he is not a bad man at all, I just think he was a little angry. By Monday, he would have cooled down.

Feel free to disagree with me though😊
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Tanyaz

Divya , you hate Manav ????? 😭

He is a nice man ...😒 Believe me , he loves Archu a lot ...

Yes , i hate him.
tanya di, u saw how he shouted at her right?? when he can shout at her for not knowing english then y cant he shout at her in matter of soham?? He should have shouted at her in soham's matter, but y does he nod his head approving archu then??
I would have loved manav if he had yelled at archu for the right reason, the right reason was soham's issue and not about english knowledge
It's even Archu's fault na ?

Yes ofcourse its her fault too, but wasnt this the first time she attended such a profile party?? dint she say him before going to party itself that she is not aware of that culture??

u remember when he was a waiter in ahotel and all insulted hin their, it was archu who defended him then, she dint take side of her sisters the, she stood up for his self respect and yelled at all who insulted him..

Fine he was upset, he should have got her home in a decent way, arey the girl ur wife is being insulted so much and even u are insulting her?? he had to compare her with vaishu?? archu had to tell him she is from marathi medium?? dint he knew that??
he was very insensitive towards her, there were other ways also to say what was in his mind but the one he chose was wrong..

She is not trying to understand his point of view ...I know he should not have blasted her for not speaking English but she also is not understanding that he has changed but for the better ...

Yes he has changed, but has he ever talked to his wife openly and told her what he expects from her?? he prefers talking to ashna openly than archana..
Is archu a kind of girl who will not listen to him??
Did u observe, when he said bank ppl are coming home and he expects her to learn, archu said "maine kab kaha", she wanted to say when did i say i will not learn..
he changed as he had DK with him to guide, ashna taught him about the dress sense, but who taught archana?? Dont u think he should tell his wife what he expects from her??
Cant a husband talk openly to his wife and explain her wat he expects from her??
That is why now he is getting more close to Ashna because Ashna understands him better than Archana ...

Had he spoke openly to archana even she wud have understood, he prefers talking his private matters to ashna these days..
well i hate this part of him too, so i dont wanna talk about it..
No man goes to other women for help always regarding his wife matter..
Ashna said apologise in front of all and he agreed?? thats a private matter betwen hubby and wife, y should he apologise in front of all.?? Y does he listen to all ashna words..
So he listens to all that ashna says not only archana..
he yells only when his egi gets hurt not when the issue is about his baby..
his ego is more important than soham..

I know it is not good and he should make Archana sit and have a talk with her without getting angry instead of all the time talking to Ashna about his marriage problems ...

This is really wrong, she is a outsider, talking about ur private life and taking advice from her to please ur wife always🤢
Talk openly to ur wife about ur problems, she loves u alot, no need of apologising in front of all, this is a private matter between u and ur wife, y make it public??
y listen to ashna s such dumb advice??
dont u even know how to talk to ur wife and tell her wat u expect out of her even after claiming that nobody knows archana more than me😕
Yesterday the way he explained to Archu about talking to the bank was very good and Archana immediately listened , did not take any offense and did the job properly .

Exactly tell her wat u expect out of her, give her work, tel her what all she needs to be aware of, u know ur wife is a simple girl and not materialistic, just speak to her and say i want u to get involved in these things and learn these, she will do it, as she loves u alot..

Archana is not an unreasonable persn and if he talks to her nicely then of course she will do whatever he tells her ...

This is wat im saying, speak to ur wife openly she will do as u say, but instead u speak openly to ashna😡
That is his mistake that he is not tackling it in the right way ...But there is no one who loves Archana more than him ...that I am very sure of ...

he loves her and she love him and no disagreement in that..
I really found him insenitive yesterday towards her.. She was so badly insulted, she trusted u and came to party , u should have took her with u and left the party if u dint wanted to defend her, and at home spoke to her as to what she needs to do further..
their is a way to talk and his way was extremely a put off for me

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Bhalla Archana needed Manav the most yesterday... I dont this he stood by her... Infact he spoke harsh words like old Manav is no more and cant come back... Archana fell in love with this old Manav who is was simple, loving and caring... But New Manav killed him.. Dont you think she will feel bad???
What was he asking her?? Speak in English?? Common guys we need to understand speaking a new language all of a sudden is not that easy.. Some people might get scared seeing many people... Why did Manav not understand this??
I have many of my relatives who are well educated and studied in English Medium... They can write very well in English but they cant speak fluent English.. Speaking a language needs practise.. When did Archana speak in English that Manav wanted her to do now and that too in front of so many people...
For example take me... I work in an environment where I only speak English and the clients I deal with are all from different countries... I dont have any problems speaking to them on the phone... But if I have to speak to someone in a high profile party with many unknown and few known people even I would be nervous... Archana had same problem too... Why is it so wrong.. Cant people get nervous?? It was Manav's duty to make her feel better by supporting and understanding her... He could have made her understand later that it is very important to deal with such people and get accustomed to... I dont think Archana would say no to him...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Manav comparing Archana and Vaishu a big👎🏼 That was not very nice on his part, he was comparing his wife to another woman and of course Archana would feel offended, him comparing them was wrong.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: bhallarox

@divya, I know you are extremely angry with Manav, and to some extent even I am a tad upset that he yelled and shouted, but the good thing is Manav still loves his wife a lot, and will always stand by her. This was a normal husband wife argument, and Manav definitely loves Archana way more than Ashna, although I do think Ashna should not interfere in ArMan's personal life so much.

@bold part, I wouldn't hate Manav at all, what he said was harsh, but he had a point as well, and he was also emotional, he is not a bad man at all, I just think he was a little angry. By Monday, he would have cooled down.

Feel free to disagree with me though😊

Its not about disagreeing bhalla..

See i really dont want him to apologise in front of all, i mean the issue is betwen wife and husband , y apologise in front of all, it was dhramesh who insulted archu, manav should have stood up for his wife..
But y should manav apologise in front of all?? Y does he listen to all ashna advice??
He is letting ashna interfere in his life so she is interfering bhalla, y should he always discuss about his private matters to an other women, y should ashna explain him he was wrong?? until she explained him that he ws wrong , dint he knew he was harsh to archu??
Ashna 's so much interference in his life is not a good sign bhalla, he shouldn discuss so much of his personal matters with her.. My POV

He wants Archu to learn and thats a very good thought but the way he yelled at her and compared her to vaishu was wrong..
Take ur wife home and tel her what u expect out of her rather than shouting at her at a public place, she dint deserve all this bhalla..
And yes ur right, im angry on him, actually im very angry, i dont approve such insensitive acts, i know archu has already forgiven him , but i dont lik him, period🤢
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ankifan

Its not about disagreeing bhalla..


See i really dont want him to apologise in front of all, i mean the issue is betwen wife and husband , y apologise in front of all, it was dhramesh who insulted archu, manav should have stood up for his wife..
But y should manav apologise in front of all?? Y does he listen to all ashna advice??
He is letting ashna interfere in his life so she is interfering bhalla, y should he always discuss about his private matters to an other women, y should ashna explain him he was wrong?? until she explained him that he ws wrong , dint he knew he was harsh to archu??
Ashna 's so much interference in his life is not a good sign bhalla, he shouldn discuss so much of his personal matters with her.. My POV

He wants Archu to learn and thats a very good thought but the way he yelled at her and compared her to vaishu was wrong..
Take ur wife home and tel her what u expect out of her rather than shouting at her at a public place, she dint deserve all this bhalla..
And yes ur right, im angry on him, actually im very angry, i dont approve such insensitive acts, i know archu has already forgiven him , but i dont lik him, period🤢



@bold, I agree with your POV, even I don't think Manav and Ashna should be this close, he should spend more time with his wife, this is not very good for both Manav and Ashna. Ashna does not need to interfere in Manav's life, and Manav should not be this close to Ashna, they are more than just friends, and that should not be happening.
Edited by bhallarox - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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i thought manav could have handled the situation.. or rather could have handled himself much better .. his tone was not right... .. the way he conveyed whatever he felt to archana was not right ..
And thats why archu felt manav was "ashamed" of her .. but thats not true ... he couldnt stand it that his wife was insulted ... and that somewhere dharmesh still had that "power" to hurt him and archana

But I am happy manav has decided to make archana better prepared for the "outside world" ...slowly she will learn ...

EDIT : btw , "tum badal gaye ho manav" dialogue is getting on my nerves now ... who is writing her dialogues ? thats the biggest difference btw manav and archana right now ... somewhere she is longing for the kind of life they lived four years ago..she remembers that life with a certain fondness .. bcuz she misses that "old manav" .. but for this current manav ... that one year after their second marriage was a nightmare - an endless cycle of poverty , homelessness , starvation , illness and their baby's death ...
Edited by lunza - 14 years ago

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