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harianjana

@harianjana

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Posted: 14 years ago

#151

agree yaar and whats need for armmaan for giving their baby and now wanting to get him back and archana why she so meen to her baby and even shes stopping manav and savita to ask varsha abt soham its sarcastic and coming to manav he became puppet in hands of archu and do wat she says but thank god savita is not yet another comedian and she speaks up st right times

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aswapu

@aswapu

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Posted: 14 years ago

#152

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000
😆 They need to involve Savita even more now, as they started to do in the last episode.

Sharon Thats EXACTLY what they r doing . They will make Savita instrumental in getting Soham back for Archana . In short Savita will save Archana .

I will feel very sorry for the adopted parents . She fed him , clothed him , looked after him ...WHATEVER the case . Her abortion , her non adoption from orphanages r seperate issues . Motherly Type or not is also seperate issue . She DID look after soham ...and She LOVED him is the evidence .

for that matter What big Motherly Type is Archana who gives up her own babies right from first trimester .

I will not be able to bear look on Satish's face when Archana clings to baby .Its OH SO NOT FAIR .

So many LIVES will go thru emotional torture due to Archana . Always she takes such mahaan decisions without knowing repercussions of her actions .

Sharon , Always in cases where the real parents surface to take babies away from adopted parents who looked after them in true sense ...I side with adopted parents .
As Niks said ...JANAM DENEWAALE SE PAALNE WAALA BADA HOTA HAI .

Meaning ...More than one who gives birth , the one who REARS and LOOKS AFTER the child is more BIGGER as a person .

Varsha not being the motherly type will be argument advanced by many . To that I say in advance ...What big motherly type is Archana ?Neglected her own kid grossly in first pregnancy , gave it away in first trimester , Gave it Away after second pregnancy .

Both sisters r same . Today if archana is doing fantastic job with sachu , so is Varsha doing nice job with Soham .

If Varsha puts up a fight for Soham , I will be on her side . Satish and his house is WONDERFUL . Soham will be very happy there , if only archana stays OUT . And THAT shud be demand ...ARCHANA stay OUT .

I sound terrible na ? Thats the way I am😆😆

Hi Kool

I always like your way thinking differently. This is really sparking up a lot of debate.

I still will say that Soham should not be with Varsha for his own good.

Firstly, if Varsha believed that she wanted him to be her son forever, she should have made arrangements to legally adopt him. I am sure Soham's birth certificate would be carrying Arman's name in the parent's column. Not just Varsha, all the Joshis would have room to believe that Soham is their kid only if the legal adoption occurs otherwise their belief is just unwarranted. As far as we understand, it has not happened. Varsha has just borrowed Archana's kid(toy) for some time and Archana is letting her use it (I hate this part) since some while. (I think Soham is just a 6-12 month old kid because he just got his baby incisor teeth and never seen him walking or talking yet).

I am sure that Satish is sane and he would understand that until Soham is legally adopted by him, he is not his son. If they dont do that how will they name themselves as his parents when he is admitted to school. This is one issue among other things. If Soham goes away he will miss him for sure but will not be heartbroken. I believe that Soham is still Soham Deshmukh not Soham Joshi.

Secondly, I agree that "janam denewale maa baap se paalnewale bade hothe hein". I would love it if it were a sane woman who keeps the best interests of the child before anything else. That would have been better than the birth mother Archana. BUT, Varsha who has a history of selfishness, throwing tantrums, forgetting others favors (especially that of the Soham's biological dad Manav) is not the right person.

Even if you say Varsha is going to be victimized, it does not change the fact that Varsha is being an unfair person. She does not have to hide from Archana all the time. Her insecurity will convert her into a nutcase and that is not good for Soham.

Whatever you do, you will get only that which rightfully belongs to you.

It would make sense when Sasha sit with Arman and discuss the Soham issue and come to an agreement. Otherwise, it is not a foolproof plan. How long will Varsha hide from Archana with Soham in her arms? If Sasha legally adopts him, then Arman will forever relinquish their parental rights over Soham. Then, Varsha can guard Archana from Soham. Otherwise, Varsha's actions are nonsense.

BTW, if Shravani comes back and claims Sachu, Arman will not be able refuse and will not refuse (because of their mahanta). Even if Sachu refuses to go away, they will make him understand this 5-6 yr old kid and send him away with her. Archana will not hide from Shravani with Sachu like what Varsha is doing.

I am not an Archana fan and I don't like her character completely but I do agree that she has a bigger heart than Varsha.

Her feeding, clothing and taking care of Soham will all go down the drain if she does not act like an educated sane woman and take a foolproof plan to keep Soham forever.

Moreover, if she conceives and becomes a mother, I bet her she will start ignoring Soham. She will no longer feed him, cloth him or take care of him and that duty will pass on to Bhavna or maybe Sulochana.

For Varsha everything has to go according to her convenience.

If she was a genuine person, I will hold my 2 thumbs up for her. But she has repeatedly proved her selfishness and she had not changed yet.

If Arman legally give away Soham to Sasha then nobody would have any further say in this. But, till now they have reserved rights which they can exercise anytime. Right now he is on a long vacation visit to his maasi's house and the childless maasi is wanting to keep him permanently. I may be wrong but this is what I understood.

BTW Kools, I would really like to know your real name

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Aishwarya

@pakhara

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Posted: 14 years ago

#153

What I don't understand is, why are Archana and Manav doing all of this for Varsha.
I mean from the beginning, they have helped her out.
1. Manav helped her with the Ashwin Sagar problem.
2. Archana and Manav took her in when she aborted her child.
3. Archana and Manav made it possible for her to adopt.
Almost anytime that she needed help, either Archana or Manav helped her, but she never did anything in return. Needless to say, she might be the number one cause for Archana losing her first child because Manav approached her for money and she denied.
So, after all of this, why do they hand her the baby??
Does her immature behavior show that she will be a good mother?
And if Archana is so "mahan," then how can she give Soham to such a person.
Everything put aside, a mother is more attached to her child than a sister is to her siblings.

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koolsadhu1000

@koolsadhu1000

Stunner

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Posted: 14 years ago

#154

Everything put aside, a mother is more attached to her child than a sister is to her siblings.

Not this mother . Time and again she has proved that she is attached MORE to siblings than child . She gave her first child up in first trimester only . Second after full delivery . Plan ALWAYS was to give it to LAADLI BEHEN . Instead of taking good care of own health in first pregnancy she was worrying about RE TALKING to Orphanage authorities . Worry for own child was ZILCH . What you are saying des not really apply to Archana ...but CVS intend to show REAL MAA KI MAMTA Track so ur right in predictting .

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Aishwarya

@pakhara

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Posted: 14 years ago

#155

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000
Everything put aside, a mother is more attached to her child than a sister is to her siblings.

Not this mother . Time and again she has proved that she is attached MORE to siblings than child . She gave her first child up in first trimester only . Second after full delivery . Plan ALWAYS was to give it to LAADLI BEHEN . Instead of taking good care of own health in first pregnancy she was worrying about RE TALKING to Orphanage authorities . Worry for own child was ZILCH . What you are saying des not really apply to Archana ...but CVS intend to show REAL MAA KI MAMTA Track so ur right in predictting .

I know! You are so right!
It's just sickening how both of them keep worrying more about Archana's sisters than they do about people in their own household.
Yeah, I too hope that the creatives start using more rational ideas.
I mean, come on!

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koolsadhu1000

@koolsadhu1000

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Posted: 14 years ago

#156

😆aswapu

The legal adoption is a mere formality that both parties will concur to . Archana is so afraid to even HAVE her child over for the holidays ...THAT much she respects Varsha's wishes ...I don't think ARMAN will ever do problem in adoption process .

Regarding Varsha's nature ...she is aggressive and has rage issues so not exactly a person one wud select for a mother . But there was a time when she had a very fair streak in her ...and one saw a glimpse of that the other day when she chided her own sister Vaishu for being step motherly towards Varun

Her possesiveness towards Soham is regarded as unhealthy by many . I dont see it that way . I see her possesive ONLY regarding Archana ...coz there she KNOWS that Archana will take over . You see , she knows her sister VERY WELL . I dont really fault her there . If Archana gave up , she gave up . All this meddling is unneeded .Its intrusive and embarassing for ALL .

If Ajit who was such a bad man can change for the better , Varsha can change positively for the child . She seems very attached to Soham . Soham seemed to have good time there .

About ARMAN never doing the same to Shravani ...aswapu , Archana will never say DIRECTLY NO to Shravani but she will Ensure EMOTIONALLY Sachu remains attached to HER ONLY . Just the way she abdicated legal control where manav was concerned but emotionally she took control of him .

Not only will Soham be confused , even Satish Varsha will face emotional upheaval . Who gave Archana the right to do this ? Its high time she learns to STICK to her decisions . Give baby up , then ask him back ...KHILONA Hai Kya .

One day will pm u my garbled name .😆😆

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aswapu

@aswapu

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Posted: 14 years ago

#157

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000
😆aswapu

The legal adoption is a mere formality that both parties will concur to . Archana is so afraid to even HAVE her child over for the holidays ...THAT much she respects Varsha's wishes ...I don't think ARMAN will ever do problem in adoption process .

Regarding Varsha's nature ...she is aggressive and has rage issues so not exactly a person one wud select for a mother . But there was a time when she had a very fair streak in her ...and one saw a glimpse of that the other day when she chided her own sister Vaishu for being step motherly towards Varun

Her possesiveness towards Soham is regarded as unhealthy by many . I dont see it that way . I see her possesive ONLY regarding Archana ...coz there she KNOWS that Archana will take over . You see , she knows her sister VERY WELL . I dont really fault her there . If Archana gave up , she gave up . All this meddling is unneeded .Its intrusive and embarassing for ALL .

If Ajit who was such a bad man can change for the better , Varsha can change positively for the child . She seems very attached to Soham . Soham seemed to have good time there .

About ARMAN never doing the same to Shravani ...aswapu , Archana will never say DIRECTLY NO to Shravani but she will Ensure EMOTIONALLY Sachu remains attached to HER ONLY . Just the way she abdicated legal control where manav was concerned but emotionally she took control of him .

Not only will Soham be confused , even Satish Varsha will face emotional upheaval . Who gave Archana the right to do this ? Its high time she learns to STICK to her decisions . Give baby up , then ask him back ...KHILONA Hai Kya .

One day will pm u my garbled name .😆😆

Agreed Kools,

Archana is treating her kid as a khilona and lending it to her sister to play with. This is worst part in this track. Nobody in this forum is able to digest the fact that this mahaan mother has given away her child to her silly sister. For a mother, her child is most priced possession. If a mother gives away her child, it would be either helplessness or heartlessness.

Archana is neither helpless nor technically heartless. I think her sisterly affection wins over her motherly emotions which is really unusual. Her favourite quote is Varsha ko bura lagega. My foot!!!

Even though Varsha showed fairness when she advised Vaishali, I am not really sure whether she would apply it if she were in Vaishali's place. Preaching and practice are 2 different things.

Ajit turned into a good man, thanks to the patience and perseverance of Vandita or probably he learned it through the tough facts of life. Only time will tell if Varsha will learn it the hard way. She never learned it with repeated experiences though.

I agree Varsha is hiding with Soham from Archu because she knows that Archana will eventually take emotional control over Soham.

But, my basic question is when she knows that when she knows it is Archana's son whom she carried in her womb for nine months and gave birth to and when Archana willingly or for whatever reason gave it to Varsha, isn't it her moral responsibility to let Archana see her kid atleast for sometime. Soham does not rightfully belong to Varsha that is why she has to run away with Soham in her arms. Satish is just ensuring this fairness when he forced her to go to Archu's house With Soham.

Somebody said "If you really love someone set it free, if it comes back to you it was meant to be yours, if it does not, then it was never meant to be yours". I think this is applicable to any kind of love. If Soham is meant to live as Varsha's child then nothing will stop it otherwise not and she needs to understand it.

If Varsha fears Archu then it is her problem. If she knows that Archu will take him back, then she should not think of possessing the child. After all it is not her possession, Archu gave it to her and she should respect that gesture. If she is investing love in that child while she herself is unsure about the outcome then she is being stupid.

I agree Archu will even be willing to give consent to let Varsha adopt the baby. But, what about Manav? Right now he is being a henpecked husband but maybe soon he will realize that this is foolishness and may refuse to give consent. After all he is Soham's father.

What I am asserting is that before the Joshis start to believe that it is their kid, they should sit together and talk and come into an agreement and complete the legal formalities. Running away with Soham is unnecessary. Aar ya paar, faisla karna padega. If the Deshmukhs (including Archana) are not completely willing to give away the child then she should stop dreaming of possessing him and return the child.

No one can change the fact that Archana gave birth to the child. How long will Varsha hide from Archana, her own sister who is living in the same city? Every time she does it, it makes her the meanest person in earth. She has to behave like a sane and reasonable person if we have to believe that she will be a good mother to Soham.

Anyways, when will tell us ur name? Can't wait to know that.

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shivani

@Miss.Colorfull

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Posted: 14 years ago

#158

out of all the stupid tracks cvs has showed in this show this one is just beyond the limit. i don't know wat are they trying to prove with all this stupidity among the characters like a child is just a another thing u can give n take to each other. i never really liked varsha's character cuz she judges ppl too easily without even giving them a chance to speak n as for archana she thinks of herself as a goddess that everything she does is right. manav just supports her most of the time. as for satish he is the only sensible one but at the end varsha tricks him too. soham should of have stayed with his real parents rather than archana giving it to varsha. varsha is right cuz soham is her son now so archana should stay away but at the end soham is archan's biological son which is not easy to forget n specially her first one too. archana is a emotional fool in all this and so is manav but later on they regret which is no use. as for varsha she thinks she is right all the time n gets things her own way. in all this soham is suffering and they should of think about all this before giving soham away as a gift to varsha.

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bhallarox

@bhallarox

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Posted: 14 years ago

#159

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000
😆aswapu

The legal adoption is a mere formality that both parties will concur to . Archana is so afraid to even HAVE her child over for the holidays ...THAT much she respects Varsha's wishes ...I don't think ARMAN will ever do problem in adoption process .

Regarding Varsha's nature ...she is aggressive and has rage issues so not exactly a person one wud select for a mother . But there was a time when she had a very fair streak in her ...and one saw a glimpse of that the other day when she chided her own sister Vaishu for being step motherly towards Varun

Her possesiveness towards Soham is regarded as unhealthy by many . I dont see it that way . I see her possesive ONLY regarding Archana ...coz there she KNOWS that Archana will take over . You see , she knows her sister VERY WELL . I dont really fault her there . If Archana gave up , she gave up . All this meddling is unneeded .Its intrusive and embarassing for ALL .

If Ajit who was such a bad man can change for the better , Varsha can change positively for the child . She seems very attached to Soham . Soham seemed to have good time there .

About ARMAN never doing the same to Shravani ...aswapu , Archana will never say DIRECTLY NO to Shravani but she will Ensure EMOTIONALLY Sachu remains attached to HER ONLY . Just the way she abdicated legal control where manav was concerned but emotionally she took control of him .

Not only will Soham be confused , even Satish Varsha will face emotional upheaval . Who gave Archana the right to do this ? Its high time she learns to STICK to her decisions . Give baby up , then ask him back ...KHILONA Hai Kya .

One day will pm u my garbled name .😆😆

I agree with all your parts Di, but the blue part I have to say 1000% agreed, Archana will never ever say no to Shravani or Varsha, and yes by a little bit of crying she will get what she wants, this happened before many times. Her crying act works with Manav all the time, and also works for her parents too. I hope Savita toughens up on Archana to keep her in check.

Do you think Soham should spend some time with Archana Kool Di?

I would also love to know your real name😊

Edited by bhallarox - 14 years ago

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Rehana Kazi

@Rehana86

Dazzler

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Posted: 14 years ago

#160

I hope Soham grows up in the next epi & bash Armaan for their brainless act towards him & then live with satish ONLY! By this time, Varsha can commit suicide. Happy Ending!

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