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bonnefille

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Posted: 14 years ago

#1061

I feel Sulochana is the one at fault and not Archana. When you make a promise to a dear one then you do your best to keep your word... that's what Archana is doing. Archana today pleaded to her mother that she can't lie to manav considering he's doing a lot to find Sulo...but Sulo again overlooking her daughter's position continued with her 'aatmanirbhar' pravachan. Archana was not even given a chance to be assertive and say that I not going to lie because Sulo had already had given the threat of running away again.

I feel Sulo is being utterly selfish and unfair to archana by putting her in a difficult situation, varsha and vaishali who may be having sleepless nights and to her damads- manav and satish who are taking out time out of their busy schedules. Meanwhile, Sulo is living a blissful life with new found friends and money from kanda poha.

Sulo's aatmanirbhar lecture is BS! One is not aatmanirbhar by running away...one is self reliant by facing difficulties and overcoming them. The way Sulo has told Archana she doesn't want to live in manav's house...she should say so to manav as well. then she would truly become aatmanirbhar.

Ok...the secretary is OTT and the track is no good either. The secretary's provocative gestures is making PR seem a like a cheesy daily. PR when started out had seemed so realistic...the realism has so gone away.

About Manav's approach...yes he should have been assertive. But i guess being assertive to opposite sex does not come easy to everyone. There are flirteous gestures from people around you that you don't give importance and kind of brush it off. You don't wanna be rude so as to not ruin your equation with them and let things be the way they are. Obviously there is a breaking point when the guy/gal is all over you...am sure Manav will have his breaking point with Riya overdoing it. Anyway, through general characterstics...i don't find manav assertive at all except in the case of dharmesh. Sometimes it seems like split personality traits.

Hospital scene was heartwarming. While watching Vandu-Ajit scene...I kind of assumed it to be the young relationship of Savita and Damo. Probaby Damo loved Savita just like Ajit loves Vandita...but failure took him to wrong route. And maybe after if not physical violence and just emotional loneliness made savita immune of Damo's existence.

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koolsadhu1000

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Posted: 14 years ago

#1062

I really DON"T understand WHAT being ATMA NIRBHAR has to do with not revealing ur identity . So u don't wanna stay at Beti's sasural , ok , its perfectly ACCEPTABLE . Say that u like it at that ashram , and that ur looking forward to a NEW CHANGE in ur life . With joint hands Refuse to go to ANYONE and bid them good bye and focus on ur Catering . Cannot this be done ?

Is Archana REALLY waiting for Manav and Vaishu to look like FOOLS on a NEWS CHANNEL ? Does she know how FURIOUS her husband ...who is SO BUSY will be ? What has Manav not done for her mother ? He has been willing to spend unlimited money , time efforts on her ...offered reward , run madly on streets ...does not she owe him ANYTHING ? Isn't it time to know where ur Loyalty shud lie ?

U know whats gonna happen ? She will LOSE HER HUSBAND"S TRUST FOR THESE LIES . Husband will STOP COMMUNICATINg with her and that RIYA will use this opprtunity when he is MENTALLY DOWN to TRAP HIM .

Riya is the necessity that arose due to Sulo's missing stunt .

Manav getting trapped again will be result of Archanas Lies ...stemming again from Sulo's Kasam .

Didnt I say Sulo will prove very COSTLY for Archu ? Just see Sulo's Dhandhas .

I admire that she is selling those Pohe . I really do . I also liked it that she told Archu u be there for all , especially Savita . Arre but HOW ? How will she be there for all when she is wrecked by the burden of GUILT that u , her mother , is plying on her with ur Kasams ?

The Sad part is this ...The Deshmukhs never demanded seva or time from Archu as bahu and were utmost coperative with her . Karanjkars always demanded her time and involvment . The ONE time they really needed her , she is constantly involved with her hale and hearty mom who is HIDING .

She cud as a woman and a bahu , be Savitas friend now u know . Since she is a woman whose Hubby is in REHAB . Savita NEEDS a womanly shoulder u know . But WHAT will Archu be there for her when she is only dumping Sachu on her at the hospital itself and walking off to see Mom or worrying about Mom ? Soham is with Sundari ! What is this ? One who cannot look after own children what she will give Savita Shoulder ? She is telling Savita only u look after my babies ha !

Riya needs to be put down even more . She was SO CHIPKU . I am hundred percent sure she is gonna put those date rape drugs in Manavs drink and somehow get him in bed . Its TYPICALLY BT tactic .

Manav's satyanash has started not due to Riya , Dharmu etc etc . It is due to Sulo and her influence on Archu .

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Dabulls23

@Dabulls23

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Posted: 14 years ago

#1063

Kools I have a strong feeling this betrayal, Ria's possible plan to destroy Manav's reputation and marriage will put Manav in arms of Aashna the understanding, listening friend.

Aashna in need of love and Manav hurt with Betrayal by Archu. No trust. Sam dukhiyare emotional affair is possibly in future.

Archu might not lose Manav physically but emotionally she surely will lose him..I wont blame him if that happens..Does not mean he stops loving Archu but he will develpe communication-trust with Aashna.

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bonnefille

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Posted: 14 years ago

#1064

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Riya needs to be put down even more . She was SO CHIPKU . I am hundred percent sure she is gonna put those date rape drugs in Manavs drink and somehow get him in bed . Its TYPICALLY BT tactic .

Me too think that's gonna happen...its so BT that its obvious. Then we will have court drama with Archana defending her husband from accusations made by 'charitraheen' woman. And ofcourse manav would be in jail...BT's favourite track.

Will also have jail romance...with jail bars b/w arman and archana promising manav that she will save him. OMG...even thinking of it makes me puke.

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Tanyaz

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Posted: 14 years ago

#1065

Bonne, I also think that it is much more Sulochna's fault than Archana's .But honestly ,Archana and her foolishness is getting too much now ..

I think some punishment will do her good ..

But the punishment has to be as much as she deserves .Manav not talking to her , blasting her badly and staying off her for a few days is the right one .. But if he lands up in Riya's or Ashna's arms because of something like this then I will blame him only as he is not a kid ...

If tomorrow sachu gets bad report card then yes Archana has to be blamed , if Soham is snatched by Varsha then yes Archna has to be blamed but Manav ending up with another woman only because Archana made a silly decision of going along with her mother's kassam would be unfair ...

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Tanyaz

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Posted: 14 years ago

#1066

I also think that Riya will spike up Manav's drink and then put a charge on him that he raped her or some other serious charge of sexual haraasment so he loses his job ... Manav knows Riya's intentions very well.He is not that naive . Manav is makign a big mistake by not beign very very strict with Riya .Today was Ok but he needs to be very strict as Riya is making it very clear to him of what she wants ...

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Dabulls23

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Posted: 14 years ago

#1067

Judging someone making a mistake and punishment both are extremely subjective. Who is to decide what or how many mistakes are to be forgiven and how much to punish.

Depends upon how much hurt and betrayal one gave and the capacity of the person who is bearing it. Someday it becomes enough is enough and a lil thing can become a reason for something big.

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Tanyaz

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Posted: 14 years ago

#1068

Why did Manav make so many excuses of being tired and all that .First this girl asks him out for a movie date , then she tells him to have a look at her mini skirted legs , then she asks him to come up late at night at her place for coffee...

How many signals does Riya have to give manav to tell him that she wants to go to bed with him...

And he knows , he knows very well what she wants ...she is almost screaming from the roof tops now ...

Why did he not tell her off today when she asked him to come up for the third time ...

His answer should have been

Enough now , I am happily married and please behave yourself , I am very uncomfortable with the way you have been behaving .If we are to work together than this has to stop now or else we cannot work together ... ' .

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Tanyaz

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Posted: 14 years ago

#1069

Originally posted by: Dabulls23

Judging someone making a mistake and punishment both are extremely subjective. Who is to decide what or how many mistakes are to be forgiven and how much to punish.

Depends upon how much hurt and betrayal one gave and the capacity of the person who is bearing it. Someday kit becomes enough is enough and a lil thing can become a reason for something big.

Yes it is sunbjective and I am speaking from my point of view ..I do not think that Archana's crime is big enough for manav to leave her forever and go to another woman ...I don't think it will be fair at all...

He too had left her and disappeared for 2 months ..Archu got angry but then she understood his majboori and forgave him ...

Same way manav should understand that she did nto do this out of her own will but she was tryign to make sure that her mother will not run away again ...I know Archu did wrong by keeping this secret but I personaly do not think that she deserves this punishment ..Others can feel differently that's up to them ...

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Dabulls23

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Posted: 14 years ago

#1070

Originally posted by: Tanyaz
Yes it is sunbjective and I am speaking from my point of view ..I do not think that Archana's crime is big enough for manav to leave her forever and go to another woman ...I don't think it will be fair at all...
He too had left her and disappeared for 2 months ..Archu got angry but then she understood his majboori and forgave him ...

Same way manav should understand that she did nto do this out of her own will but she was tryign to make sure that her mother will not run away again ...I know Archu did wrong by keeping this secret but I personaly do not think that she deserves this punishment ..Others can feel differently that's up to them ...

Tanya my abv post was in general..You read my post couple of pages back abt this would be really harsh punishment. No one deserves extra marital affair.

But what Archu is doing is not at all right neither by Manav or by her sisters. She must know what is right from wrong. She should talk to someone a third party who could help her understand why she shouldn't lie and let Manav-V-V know.

BTW does Manav deserve this betrayal?? I am not including V & V in this Q b/c they have hurt Archu b4. But Manav has not done anything to hurt or kept anything from Archu. SO is it fair to him?? NO

Comparing losing their own baby to Sulo running away and hiding is not fair..Ridiculous IMHO 😳

Life is never fair. Things happens and there are no explanations or are ever justifed..But in real life they do happen for the smallest reasons and at a wrong time. Its like Volcano it bubbles for a long while but it finally erupts.

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