Star Of The Day : 28th Jan 2011 - Page 8

Originally posted by: Tanyaz

where did you see the pictures ..I want to see them too ....

Originally posted by: omshreejaanu

Bhavni u have summed up very well wat Vidyasu has said n i defo agree with u girls. I try very hard 2 sympathize with Savita esp 4 all the pains she has endured since a long time but i still cant. I find her 2 b extremely selfish n she has used all means by crook or by hook 2 get things done her ways. She is a very spoilt woman n defo lack manners. Being blunt n talking ur heart out doesn't mean u can get away with all nonsense u speak.
She had been unfair 2 Archu b4 Sachin's death so it isn't like she was nice b4 n that this painful event made her bitter. The fact is she was n is a mean, greedy n selfish woman. I still remember when Shravni got some jewelry after her sagaai, she put them on with glee n when she got caught by a stunned Shravni she immediately screwed her face n talked abt how her dead son Sachin always wanted her 2 b adorned with jewelry n thats why she put them on.
Wats does this mean? Simply that she has used her dead son 2 fool the poor girl n loot her jewelry n now she thinks Archu will b throwing his son's money on sarees, jewelry... when she knows Archana is the least interested in all those stuff n loves only her son.

Originally posted by: vidyasu1

Sorry folks, just once in very, very rare while I itch to come in. So here I go seeing hearts suddenly fill with love for Savita. Does Savita love Manav unconditionally? Did she ever love him unconditionally? Here's a reality check. Savita did everything within her means and beyond to separate the newlyweds. She prevented the consummation of their wedding, connived with evil Manjusha to create misunderstandings between Arman and was quite delighted when Archana fell into the trap and walked out on Manav.

It was Manjusha who put the D family in jail but Savita -- who had colluded with Manjusha against Archana ' blamed Archana for the family's tribulations, making her suffer unspeakable torture and abuse over the three months that she stayed with the Ds. Savita threw her out of the house knowing that the girl had risked her own life to rescue Vandita from a suicide attempt. Do you all remember the night when Archana sat out, dripping wet and shivering, with no one even concerned that she could fall ill or meet with some other disaster? Greedy Savita poisoned Shravani's mind against Archana and instigated her endlessly. The short phase when Savita loved Archu was really that ' short, very short.

For most of the time, it has never mattered to her that her son loved Archana deeply. She was immune to his suffering. Remember the night he returned home after meeting Archana one last time? He sobbed his heart out but his mother was completely unmoved ' she went on and on about his wedding with Shravani, the muhurat date, the wedding saree and so forth. Manav, the good -- no, make that great -- son suffered grievously, silently, all because he had given his word to Shravani that he would marry her. He was unflinching in his commitment, marrying Archana only after Shrav herself liberated him from his promise.

Is Manav not entitled to any happiness at all? He has got back his love against all odds ' can't he even spend some happy hours with her? Or must he accept savita's condition that he give up his love? Okay, am not too happy about him forgiving the K sisters ' they are a nasty duo but Manav would not be Manav if he hadn't forgiven them.

And what about when Arman went to the D house after marriage? Savita turned them out mercilessly, not bothering even to find out how they were coping. Manav had to take the help of goondas, the couple lived in a sleazy koli, Archu was sick and needed nursing, but Savita did not venture out even once in their direction. It was Sulochana who took them home, not Savita. And the only thing Savita did when Arman finally found a decent roof over their heads was to go over to the Ks, publicly humiliate Archana, call her a wh**e and push her into a bonfire. Under the Indian dowry laws, she can be put away for life for this horror.

Forget everything else, Savita tried yet again to separate Arman, going as far as seeking Jaywant's help in this. She knew damn well that Jay was hatching something evil, and that is why she went to watch the tamasha at the Karanjikars the day Manav was called a thief. And then when the K sisters and Manju abused Manav, suddenly her maternal heart brimmed over with love, and she retaliated word for word. Two and half cheers that sav gave the Ks good, but just why did she land up there in the first place? How can we forget her own motive in all this? Had Jay found some other way to separate Arman, she would have been only too happy to go along.

Can it be anyone's case that Sav will love manav with the condition that he give up his own happiness but that Manav should love her unconditionally? How is that fair to a son who has never crossed the line and put himself out for his stupid, greedy mother? Was this forum not angry with Manav for being so much of a Momma's boy that he never did right by his love? Now why is he being accused of the opposite thing?

And finally, why is there so much song and dance about Arman not doing enough for Sachu? Shouldn't Shravani have provided for his material comfort? Even in a divorce, the husband has to pay maintenance. In this case, Shravani alone is responsible for her infant son's maintenance and upkeep which responsibility she has miserably failed to fulfil. No mother can and should be this uncaring, especially when she herself is rich and living in comfort in contrast to her materially neglected little son.

Vote for Archana...for simply carving that light filled nook of cozy welcome out of a meager nothingness, where offenders are feeling forgiven and violated are feeling protected…too bad that jealous ones are not feeling disarmed….

Hey Vidyasu, I'd something similar to share, this afternoon I had posted in other thread…

Savita: Is she a bipolar? How else can one explain her Lady Jackyl or Mrs. Hyde sorties!

• Would keep on cursing Archana for Jail- Her son's death etc., never bothering to remember inconvenient culprit Manjusha, but then won't hesitate a moment to burn this girl alive if it satiates her macabre sense of revenge-unafraid of jail and next moment will start moving as a saddest mother in the world (haltingly and broken, eyes full of hurt and lips pursed in sadness- with a craftily sneaked jewellery in one hand!).
• Won't hesitate a moment to throw her husband down into same Jail on same pretexts when he tries to rein in her murderous rage, and conveniently slipping back into the role of a mistreated, ill provided wife.
• Won't think twice in throwing her son and his bride out on the road in dead of a night won't budge an inch over most obdurate stand in accepting them back, but then expect same son to keep on looking after them- old aged parents- even more laughably- expecting him to return to his parents with immediate abandonment of his wife!! She will keep on accusing her son of neglect, never bothering to spend a single cent /thought where his happiness lays. After all it's her incontrovertible right as a mother- well exercised since his early age. May be she has the right of charging every single ounce of blood she had nourished him to, but what right does she have to effect slavery on her DIL?
• Won't think twice over the PUBLIC onslaught of her son- not even for a moment trying to look at the pain in his eyes, reckless imperilment of her own daughter's marriage (ref. Ajit a misnomer target in lieu of Manjusha, now that he HAS repented) or endless taunting to Manav-Archana and next instant will done a pathetic cloak of an abandoned old parent (Will berate them in enraged fury and next moment revert back to sad- defeated-eyes- twitched- hurt- lips of an old dejected parent)…..

Let us not even remember- character assassination, dowry demands, doormat treatment, foxily stopping her TRUSTING son's (and his wife) marriage consummation, ruthless destruction of a girl's marriage in connivance with her SIL……She is a mother injured indeed, except that she is no proper mother ever.

I love reading yours and Bollywoodcrazed's take- also Tanya's ever positive… DO post oftener…we miss you.

Originally posted by: vidyasu1

thanks smrth, iI love reading you too, though you seem to be a rare bird like me.

@ hardyboy, my comment was on the discussions over the last month or so across the threads on Savita, Arman, the K sisters and sachu. This very thread has so many people commenting on the whys and wherefores of Arman's behaviour towards savita. I came here because I love SOTD. It radiates warmth, positivity and goodness. I presume I have the freedom to comment wherever I want -- just as the others have.

You are free to disagree with me on this but Mumbai is one of the most progressive cities in India. It is ahead of almost all other metros on gender equality. I live in Delhi but I have lived in (then) Bombay too -- and I used to marvel at the number of working women out on the streets. In the city's serpentine queues outside local train stations, more than half would be women. You'd find them travelling late on the locals -- it is only lately that Mumbai has become less safe. It is very common for Mumbai couples to live by themselves and visit the in-laws on the weekend. I have seen many couples live just across the street from their in-laws or live separately in the same building -- and I'm not talking about upper middle class people. And am talking about years ago when nuclear families were not so common. So while it is unexceptionable that couples should take care of old parents, I can't digest savita bawling over her 31-year old son not ditching his wife to live with her. Or her hyperventilating about archu taking aways her sons from her.

The nuclear family process has hastened post-liberalisation -- but our soaps do not reflect any of this. They do not show working women making it big -- only vamps are ever successful and they are unfailingly shown to have reached where they have by scheming and plotting, never through hard work. Our soaps make a virtue of women not wanting to work. Only the evil Manju seems to be going out to work.

If TV shows reflected reality, then all Indian families would be living in magnificent havelis crowded with bejewelled women in silk and ghungats. All women would be furiously scheming and wasting their time adding tons of extra salt and mirchi into food cooked by the DIL. How many of these families do we actually see? Yet these soaps are popular as they offer a diversion from everyday grind.

C U.