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Posted: 14 years ago
#81

Originally posted by: vidyasu1

Kool, I think I wisely decided to opt out of commenting. You have every right to hold your views. In fact you have an entire thread where you state your POV very strongly -- and every day. I enjoy your humour and I have never ever disputed your right to say what you want -- even if I did not agree with it or felt aggrieved by it, which I did very often. . So if after days, months perhaps, I do a single post, it is not fair to come back at me saying I am attacking someone else's point of view. That is intolerance. I said I cannot understand how people can drool over a family that cannot see its daughter's distress and immediately followed it up by saying sorry if I offended anyone. It is my POV -- and, if I am not mistaken, it is the the POV of many others who have participated in this thread. And if I think Archu's sisters are giggly, insensitive and selfish, I have reason to believe and say so. I even added a smilie to let you know it is all in god humour. I find Dharmesh loathsome and am angry that Vaishali is oblivious to how terribly worng he is. It is my view that women ought not to blindly support their husbands and should have their own identities. In the case of archana and manav, you have to admit that they never, ever fight for themselves. When they themselves are attacked or humiliated, they take it silently. But they react strongly when the other is attacked and even when an outsider is wronged.. They have a strong sense of justice even if that is dangerously veers on OTT. Which is why in the end they get the maximum votes in SOTD. Because somewhere in all of us there is a strong sense of right and wrong. We want good to win over evil even if we accept the unavoidable reality of the greys. You say you like the grey characters. That is your prerogative. I have been a working woman with a great career living on my own -- in India -- for many many years. I have met more grey than positive characters in the course of my work. I have even admired their guts; perhaps they are more interesting too. Who is not fascinated by a bitch? But even today my eyes light up, and I feel really, really good from the inside when I meet someone who is idealistic and who will not compromise on essential values.There are not many like that but there are a few and they make me feel that they are the people who make the world go around. I suspect I am not alone in feeling this way. In a bizarre, twisted sort of way foolish Arman represent this essential goodness and which is why despite all the idiotic things they do they still have so many people rooting for them.

Kool, I will not post again and this is a promise because every time I do, I get it in the neck. Cheers.

The only word I objected to slightly was DROOL . You cud have said I dont understand why people love Archnas family or something . Kindly dont accuse me of intolerance or attacking u . Also just because I have a thread daily , it doesnt mean I cant state my opinions on someone else's and that if I do , I am necessarily ATTACKINg them .I merely stated my POV . Even on my thread people have varied opinions , diametrically opposed to mine . Its their POV and i respect that .
If u decide not to post its your decision , what can I say .
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Posted: 14 years ago
#82

Originally posted by: sereaishitedare

I don't understand why these people don't understand the simple concept of grieving. Archana needed time to grieve the ending of her marriage, and she was never given the opportunity to before being pushed into another relationship. I know some people think she had over a year to grieve, but sometimes it takes a lifetime to grieve, and it's evident that Archu hadn't had proper time to grieve because she is still gaga over Manav.


I also don't understand the concept of needing a man to live a happy life. I am offended by that being a woman, and I don't understand why the creatives of the show portray such idiotic ideas on a very popular show. I honestly believe they are a bunch of 40 year old sickos sitting around upset at the social progress some parts of India are making with respect to women's rights and don't want to see that progress, therefore they show such idiotic concepts to promote their despicable views.

Also, why do they have to show good people being so passive? Just because you are a nice person, doesn't mean you need to let everyone boss you around. Archana's parents are portrayed as well-meaning parents and respectable members of society, but in my point of view they are nothing but emotional bullies that don't want an identity of their own and just want to blend into their society, and in turn aren't letting their daughter have an identity of her own either.

Why does a woman always need to be known by her relationships? Sulochana's daughter, Manav's ex-wife, Vinod's sister, Jaywant's fiancee? I think its pathetic.

Who on here agrees with me and if you don't agree with me on certain topics, I'd love to hear from you.=)



i totally agree with u
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Posted: 14 years ago
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didnt understand samarth . clarify please .😊
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

didnt understand samarth . clarify please .😊

I don't want to hurt on personal levels.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: zeezee55

Not seen much recently but anyway, i did bash Archana in my post a few minutes ago. But you are right, the family deserves to be bashed too, especially Sulochana, her mother. She is the biggest culprit when it comes to Archana - from day 1. Even now, she just tells Archana forget about Manav - what I would like to ask Sulochana is whether she can forget her husband? All sulochana wants is to have a picture perfect family - all daughers married off well so that she can face society that she has done her duty and done it well. Does she really care what her daughters feel - yes i know she sympathises with them and holds them, hugs them and empathise with them but it appears so superficial . after empathsing, she isback to saying, you should consider the right thing to do - and as far as she is concerned, the right thing to dois what society expects you to do - get married and have a family sigh

Actually I sympathise with Jaywant's family - I don't like Jaywant nor his family - but i do sympathise the family - because who would tolerate their future daughter-in-law hankering after her first husband. I am surprised they still want her as a DIL. I know why Jaywant wants her - out of revenge - but why would the family want her?
I won't bash Archana riight now - i think shehas been bashed enough. But still things are in her hands and she can make it better if she really wants to.... but does she want to...that is the question


Hi there zeezee!

I agree, that Sulochana really rubs me the wrong way, but I understand what others like koolsadhu are saying too, about a mother's heart. Honestly though, if I were a mother, society be damned I'd make sure my child was truly willing and READY for another marriage post divorce.
And I definitely would NOT blackmail her into marrying someone she doesn't like.

Jaywant's family had some sympathy from me at the beginning, but now that they are ORDERING Archu into leaving her job, and constantly taunting her, they've lost all respect from me anyways. His mother would have retained some respect in my eyes had she told Archu nicely, please don't work where you're working now, try to find another job, but know that you aren't obligated to work, but you can if you want to. Instead she goes and orders Archu to leave her job and tell her she CAN'T work. The bias they had against her from the beginning about her being a divorcee had always made me suspect they were going to treat her like dirt, like she's soiled or trash or something like that.

About Archu, she's done her fair share of foolish activities, but I think the most foolish thing she does and has been consistently doing since the beginning of the show is sacrificing her happiness for others, and doing what EVERYONE tells her to, like she's some slave or something. I think if she just stands up for herself, she can avoid getting into a bigger mess than she's already in.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: arch_nat1112

Really nice thread going on! 😊

I think there is no question that mothers and fathers always believe that their daughters (and sons, but especially daughters) should get married and live happily. Perversely, Sulochana might even believe that if Archana marries Jaywant, she might in time forget Manav as well. This is right in the beginning when the rishta was just being discussed etc.

At this point when so much has happened, it is HORRIBLY unfair to Archana to blackmail her to go on with this marriage, knowing what kind of person Jaywant is - the fact that he actually perpetuated a FRAUD to keep Manav in jail! And Dharmesh, who went along with this is also allowed to go scot free because he can very conveniently blame Archana saying that her rishta with Manav is not 'pavitra', or that she is wronging her future in-laws / husband - when he is wrong in the eyes of the law.

I have not seen a person more unhappy and more put upon than Archana. And one person who we should mention is Manju in this context. That woman is responsible for EVERY ill that has fallen on this family, more than even Dharmesh and the self-sacrificing saints, and she gets to go scot free.

The second person we should mention is Savita - who first lied, then created love in Shravani's mind for Manav by attacking her insecurities, then tried to take away the same status to give it to Archana, and now judging Archana for what she is doing without any evidence.

The third person we should mention is Shravani. If a man doesn't want to marry her so obviously, she should walk away from him, taking the child. She's rich enough, she can manage. Instead she went about emotionally blackmailing Archana into as loveless a marriage as she is going to have.

After this only comes Archana's family - her brother and sisters especially - who don't seem to see the wrong their respective spouses are doing, but are bent upon accusing Manav and Archana for so many things while not even thinking about the things they have done for the family, and the number of times they have forgiven all of these people. Varsha's marriage was saved by Manav, and he helped out in Vaishu's wedding also. He treated them no less than younger sisters.

Honestly, I don't even have much respect left for Archana and Manav any more also. They brought all this upon themselves by being silly and self-sacrificing. And if they can't forget each other - they shouldn't have got divorced in the first place. The only people I have some respect left for are Satish - who is genuinely regretting the fraud he committed and is a very sensible man, and Ajit post leap - who has managed to pick himself up and make a life for himself.


Everyone tries to hide their imperfections behind the seemingly 'obvious' imperfections of Manav and Archana, and everyone also presents themselves as all-knowing in the show, to my eternal disgust, especially Sulochana and Savita.

Savita is still a likable character, simply because it is expected of her to be selfish. Sulochana on the other hand thinks she is acting in everyone's best interest, but is nothing more than a big bully. The less said about the sisters the better. Two very promising characters have been reduced to being traditional wives who see no wrong in their husbands actions, even if they are openly admitting their mistakes, all the while blaming someone else. Dharmesh is another bully who plays mind games, just like a dictator would.

I don't condone physical violence, but I don't see Archu's slap to Dharmesh as overtly inappropriate, him with his big mouth and disrespectful attitude needed to shut up, and no one was supporting her. Heck don't support her for all I care, at least speak up against the obvious CRIMES Dharmesh commited, fraud and lying to a police officer being two. It still shocks me that no one even thinks to find the real culprit in the entire factory fiasco.

Manav and Archu, I do agree with a lot of the characters on one point, that these two pretend to be god, and they constantly put others happiness and wishes above their own. That's pathetic and naive, in the real world, you should be nice yes, but you also need a backbone to stick up for yourself.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: smrth

Too late o'er here- tomm- but just remember my earlier pledges.😊


OH lord Siamese cat! That is hilarious!😆
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Didnt u know ? Its her nickname in my commentary

Edited by koolsadhu1000 - 14 years ago

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