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Posted: 15 years ago
#71

Originally posted by: saffiyyah

Actually archu and shrav are similiar in some ways-

they r v transparent - archu shows all her emotions,love,kindness,even anger at Manav at that market scene,SNpooja...
Shrav does the same-shows her anger,J,wanting it all attitude
But everybody dislikes Archu showing her love for Manav now-why?coz not the appropriate thing to do na,why cant she control,adjust to circumstance etc. like a PRACTICAL GAL
Then,the same is applicable for Shrav na - she chose to be the second one,and knows the first one is well loved - adjust to the circumstance,why not control her hatred for archu,tolerate the love that those who loved her bfor reminescence abt-like a PRACTICAL GAL?what is there to be insecure for,if she's got the guy then and is sooo sure that he will not look at any other gal?
I had mentioned in a post bfor abt my friend who is a second wife to a widower - her husband had lived with his first wife just for a few days,and then lived in a diff country due to Greencard etc. and the day they were to meet at the airport she died in an accident on the way.
After 14 yrs and 4 kids with his 2nd wife,he does not tolerate anybody saying a word against the first - it indicates an appreciation,respect and fondness for the person who indeed did give him sooo much,and still does not mean he does not love the second wife
What is Shrav's problem with Archu that she cannot even hear the name mentioned?? I wish she had had a girl baby instead of a boy and Manav had named her ARCHNA 😡

In ur real life story , The FIRST WIFE DIED . If first wife dies its very easy to become mahaan and pray to her photo and give her respect .Coz she is not making love to ur husband physically or mENTALLY with eyes anymore [ like ARMAN .mental love]
My grandfather married second time .My Dad was son of first wife .His stepmom prayed to the first wifes photo on her annual Barsi day every year , and Grandpa wud be pleased .Its EASY .
But when first wife tells u Ill divorce only on paper but spiritually be wedded to him forever , on a woman to woman basis its a challenge .Ur too young to understand it .
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dabulls23

My comment : Shravani shud pick SAchin up and walk off to Girish saying ............Main Archu nahi hoon . Main Aapki Tarah sirf APNE MAN KI SOCHTI HOON . Main Ne APNE BAAP KI NAHI SUNI AAPKI KYA sunungi ? RAHO ARCHU KI YAADON KE SAATH .Sachu , DADIMA KO GOODBYE BOLO .

From your mouth to God's ears...Tathastu....Ameen..
This should straighten them all out...Good commentary Kools...

Varsha u shud have seen Savita , I wanted to smack her .
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Posted: 15 years ago
#73

Originally posted by: tarantulla_p



W.r.t Shravani's manipulations - I am referring to her screaming matches and all her attempts to getting Manav to marry her right where they r standing. She endangered her child and knew she was pressing everyone's buttons by all that. She knew once she screamed, all attention would be given to her because of her pregnancy.

I wonder why Girish didnt think of someone like Dharmesh for Shravani. There are a lot of practical people in the world who get into marriages for reasons other than all consuming love. I know this serial is not interested in the concept of an evolved, wise woman, but what would be the best is if Shravani really introspected and saw the futility of holding on to a person who never will love her.

I agree Manju and Savita are horrible people. Manju is less than Savita. Manju - most people know her intentions are evil - with Savita, she is far more sinister. She pretends to be this golden hearted person but is just as evil as the average villain.

Taran
I think the introspection will start now .If Ajit can introspect why cant Shravani . She is really sensible and adjusting in everything else , more than Varsha and Manju even .
I want to see if they decide to send her in coma or use the path of self development .I wud applaud the latter .
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

In ur real life story , The FIRST WIFE DIED . If first wife dies its very easy to become mahaan and pray to her photo and give her respect .Coz she is not making love to ur husband physically or mENTALLY with eyes anymore [ like ARMAN .mental love]
My grandfather married second time .My Dad was son of first wife .His stepmom prayed to the first wifes photo on her annual Barsi day every year , and Grandpa wud be pleased .Its EASY .
But when first wife tells u Ill divorce only on paper but spiritually be wedded to him forever , on a woman to woman basis its a challenge .Ur too young to understand it .

I aint sooo yung KoolDI 😆😆 well,the hubby was remembering the first wife even during intimate moments,coz the second marriage happened quite early and my friend was young too
It did hurt her initially but the emphasize here is her ability to empathize with her husband's heart
and show patience coz even a year is v short a time for a loving couple that has separated,for not lack of love -
and this is what Shrav lacks -her crass inability to empathize with anybody,and that includes her attitude to Damo baba too,she told him to f***k off in her own way,when he told her that he considered her still bahu as sachin's wife and never manav's and she said YEH SHAADI HO KEY HI RAHEGA - man,I wanted her sooo much to get to this point she is in now,that day -although I sympathize with her now a lil😕
And I feel the same problem in PR now - if it had been a 5 yr leap,I agree with you KoolDi,point to point - but a 1 yr leap I think has made this more complex - not enuf time for anyone to truly move on and settle down in life and for feelings to be at the point of reminescence instead of thinking it is not too late to correct the wrong
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Posted: 15 years ago
#75

Who is Savita to tolerate or not tolerate anyone for that matter ?

Savita has always been a gundi type lady with ' not to be messed with' kind of attitude. Only time she ever respected and understood anyone's feeling was Shravani's insecurity w.r.t Archana. Savita is someone who makes whole Deshmukh family dance on her finger.

Is she suddenly now a model of rectitude ? Please ! She ABUSED Archu , and she is lecturing to Shravni about the rights and wrongs of spousal conduct ?And according to her , the right spousal conduct is constantly hearing Archus name in the house without flinching , and LOVING it ?

Shravani walked in and overheard them talking otherwise they take care not to hurt her. Savita was just reminding Shravani of Archana's sacrifices for Deshmukh family and for Shravani which Shravani refuses to accept. She was giving Shravani right advice that if she wants to make space in Manav's heart then quit cribbing and making scenes about small issues like taking Archana's name in house. Such temper tantrums is not helping her cause.

Lets not make mistake here , The Deshmukhs have NOT treated Shravni as a goddess bcoz they fell in love with her or coz Shravni bossed them around plzzz.They wanted their grandson.

Bottom line is that she is being treated as a goddess. Giving grandson to family does not obliterate the fact that she made a mistake along with Sachin and due to her mistake ArMan had to make sacrifice in life. She needs to be humble towards Archana and learn to live with the knowledge that she is a second woman and Archana will always have special place in hearts of Deshmukh.

He took precedence over Archu and he took precedence even above Manavs personal happiness ........Savita entertained Shravni to grab Sachu .Plain and simple. And to get Girishji's weath, at least that was her original intention.

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And when she is so ordinary , unmahaan .......that she gave priority to her love for grandchild over her sons happiness , who is she to demand mahaan behaviour from Shravni and demand that she shud NOT be UNMAHAAN ?

She is not asking Shravani to be mahaan but just asking her to be normal and see things the way they are after shedding her hate for Archana. And that people have done enough already for Shravani and this is no way of talking to them, its Savita's house after all. I'm surprised Savita has not confronted Girishji and taunted Shravani till now for selling a that garage to Manav, putting him in a situation where is has no decent job and no garage and has debt that he has to payback.

And so i ask who is she to think Shravni is a bull who needs to be taken by the horns when she herself has been a wild buffalo and trampled all for her goals in the past?

She had mistreated Archana in past and has changed since then and has repented for her past actions. It is a welcoming change in Savita and her efforts at being good with Archana and Karajkars is appreciated. So if a person had committed mistakes in past, that person does not have any right ever to talk sense into another person who is doing wrong. She was wrong so she should keep shut and let other person do wrong.

Edited by Arien_03 - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Actually,this deal of dont throw a stone if u have sinned aint really true -
then,there wud be no one qualified to be a judge after all.Something is wrong,
its wrong - whether a good person points it out or a bad person,aint doesnt matter
If Rassi can have a point there when ArMan hang out now,Savita has a point here when Shravni is getting paranoid
Savita is and was selfish-and she deserves terrible punishment for what she did to ArMan the most,and how she treated Archu with greed and pure evil
But she has been fair to Shrav soo much in comparison to Archu - she dint grab shrav's gold,dint make her do houswork like a maid,call her filthy names or insult her mayka -and Shrav is doing no ehsaan by delivering the baby - gals,a mother almost always wants to have her baby,Shrav is enjoying the fruits of her labor here-nobody is grabbing the baby like in Laali's case in AJMB -
where is Shrav being robbed???
Savita not so gently reminded Shrav that she is making a fuss when there is noo need for it - after all,Savita DOES NOT KNOW THE ArMan badnaami yet - she only knows they r wrking together and Manav/Savita both r clear that they are committed to having Shravni married to Manav,even though their hearts want something else.
If we give credit to manav for being committed,why not to savita? both their aims and niyat r the same yaar - manav is ok then and savita is not??
Shravni shud keep her doubts,questions etc. to Manav and manav only - he is the weakest link here though- then why go arounding blasting archu,crying to savita - no point
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Posted: 15 years ago
#77

Originally posted by: Arien_03

Who is Savita to tolerate or not tolerate anyone for that matter ?

Savita has always been a gundi type lady with ' not to be messed with' kind of attitude. Only time she ever respected and understood anyone's feeling was Shravani's insecurity w.r.t Archana. Savita is someone who makes whole Deshmukh family dance on her finger.

Is she suddenly now a model of rectitude ? Please ! She ABUSED Archu , and she is lecturing to Shravni about the rights and wrongs of spousal conduct ?And according to her , the right spousal conduct is constantly hearing Archus name in the house without flinching , and LOVING it ?

Shravani walked in and overheard them talking otherwise they take care not to hurt her. Savita was just reminding Shravani of Archana's sacrifices for Deshmukh family and for Shravani which Shravani refuses to accept. She was giving Shravani right advice that if she wants to make space in Manav's heart then quit cribbing and making scenes about small issues like taking Archana's name in house. Such temper tantrums is not helping her cause.

Lets not make mistake here , The Deshmukhs have NOT treated Shravni as a goddess bcoz they fell in love with her or coz Shravni bossed them around plzzz.They wanted their grandson.

Bottom line is that she is being treated as a goddess. Giving grandson to family does not obliterate the fact that she made a mistake along with Sachin and due to her mistake ArMan had to make sacrifice in life. She needs to be humble towards Archana and learn to live with the knowledge that she is a second woman and Archana will always have special place in hearts of Deshmukh.

He took precedence over Archu and he took precedence even above Manavs personal happiness ........Savita entertained Shravni to grab Sachu .Plain and simple. And to get Girishji's weath, at least that was her original intention.

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And when she is so ordinary , unmahaan .......that she gave priority to her love for grandchild over her sons happiness , who is she to demand mahaan behaviour from Shravni and demand that she shud NOT be UNMAHAAN ?

She is not asking Shravani to be mahaan but just asking her to be normal and see things the way they are after shedding her hate for Archana. And that people have done enough already for Shravani and this is no way of talking to them, its Savita's house after all. I'm surprised Savita has not confronted Girishji and taunted Shravani till now for selling a that garage to Manav, putting him in a situation where is has no decent job and no garage and has debt that he has to payback.

And so i ask who is she to think Shravni is a bull who needs to be taken by the horns when she herself has been a wild buffalo and trampled all for her goals in the past?

She had mistreated Archana in past and has changed since then and has repented for her past actions. It is a welcoming change in Savita and her efforts at being good with Archana and Karajkars is appreciated. So if a person had committed mistakes in past, that person does not have any right ever to talk sense into another person who is doing wrong. She was wrong so she should keep shut and let other person do wrong.

Arien , we cud argue endlessly on this but since u talked of bottomlines here is one for u .........
Bottomline is Savita wants the baby . U say she has changed , lovely , very good. But see the change . She wants Archu Manav's marraige , but does she want it like Damodar .................Damodar only wants the two of them back together , WITH or WITHOUT Sachu .He doesn't mind if Shravni remarries and takes Sachu with her .
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Savita DOES . She wats ARMAN but cleverly takes authority in her hands and says I give u SACHU .Who is she to do that , may I know ? Look , grandmom and all is ok , but ultimate authority is ONLY Shravnis , whether u guys like her or dislike her is a seperate issue. Manav too cannot claim legal authority as they are NOT WEDDED .
.Other thing she says is Shravni isi ghar ka hissa banegi , Bahu ka darja milega but Sachin ke biwi ka etc . Now maganimous as she sounds , again we see that she DOES NOT WANT BABY TO LEAVE THE HOUSE . Its Shravni will stay in a corner and Sachu will be ENJOYED BY DESHMUKH family .
My objection is mainly to THIS . Let Shravni GO . And by GO , I mean TOTALLY GO . Let ARMAN get back together . Can't they have kids ?
Why shud Shravni have option of only being Sachins widow if Manav Archu get back together ? This is what Savita implies.
Yes if Shravni voluntarily leaves Sachu ok , but it shud be hER decision .
She changed so doesnt she have right to teach other anything now etc is fine .Teach . But be FAIR .
But its my gut feeling that this changed woman WON"T let Sachu go . She wants all on her terms.
There really is no need to treat Shravni like a goddess etc .Just let her GO to Girish .On this I am with u .Rest of ur points that she is the most abnormal on list etc I strongly differ ........having so much KINDNESS bubbling inside u that u give up ur marraige for pleasing others is terribly abnormal . Perhaps ABNORMALLY KIND , but ABNORMAL . Not NORMAL . So in this sense both women need therapy coz they have low self esteem where they feel they cannot survive without mAnav . THEY CAN .
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Posted: 15 years ago
#78

Originally posted by: saffiyyah

I aint sooo yung KoolDI 😆😆 well,the hubby was remembering the first wife even during intimate moments,coz the second marriage happened quite early and my friend was young too
It did hurt her initially but the emphasize here is her ability to empathize with her husband's heart
and show patience coz even a year is v short a time for a loving couple that has separated,for not lack of love -
and this is what Shrav lacks -her crass inability to empathize with anybody,and that includes her attitude to Damo baba too,she told him to f***k off in her own way,when he told her that he considered her still bahu as sachin's wife and never manav's and she said YEH SHAADI HO KEY HI RAHEGA - man,I wanted her sooo much to get to this point she is in now,that day -although I sympathize with her now a lil😕
And I feel the same problem in PR now - if it had been a 5 yr leap,I agree with you KoolDi,point to point - but a 1 yr leap I think has made this more complex - not enuf time for anyone to truly move on and settle down in life and for feelings to be at the point of reminescence instead of thinking it is not too late to correct the wrong

Then I sympathize with second wife in real story as if she had first husband and full day during intimate moments she wud take his name this hubby wud have HATED it . Sorry , I dont sympathize with hubby over here . I cant stand chauvinism .
Reactions of others r their prerogative alone . It is not necessary that the second wife shud LOVE the other woman or first wife . If she prefers to keep distance , its perfectly understandable. Aisi jabardasti theek nahi . Thats what all r doing with Shravni ........that LIKE ARCHNA LIKE ARCHNA. She is being true to her feelings and prefers keeping a distance , FAIR ENOUGH .
Edited by koolsadhu1000 - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Kools awesome agree with you on every word...👏
but i can no longer relate to any of the characters 😡
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Totally differ with u on the fact about Shravnis abnormality Arien . That first abnormality came across when she fell in love with married man claiming to be in love with his bro...........why is that an abnormality ?The brother was dead , she barely knew him for few weeks , had premarital sex like hundreds do all over the world and btw these hundreds quickly move on and date other men , in this case since she was pregnant the elder bro proposed whose marraige was finished anyways . A big ABNORMAL hype is given to a perfectly normal transition ...........CVS dont have time to show this to us that she waited for 3 yrs and showed appropriate grief that wud match our sense of propriety . Neither is her premarital sex abnormal , neither is her human decision to bring a life in the world instead of killing it abnormal neither is falling in love again abnormal with a guy who stood by her when she needed it the most . So u see , I strongly disagree with calling her or any human abnormal for these reasons. . If at all abnormality is to be seen it is in the fact that a married couple todate has not even kissed or have a single sexual thought . ARMAN. They only have PAVITRA thoughts.........does this happen in real life ?the Sharp etching of VIRTUE as shown in PR by Ektas CVS is too good to be true , almost bordering on Abnormality . Sorry I guess we must agree to disagree here . And I mention Savita wanting Baby in all posts coz Thats where the track is headed .............we shall soon see how much she loves Shravni , how much she loves Archu and how much she loves baby . It will all come out so I suggest instead of arguing lets wait and see where the explosion takes place and to whom and how Sachu is given ........for its around HIM that ARMAN revolve .
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