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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: Arien_03

Today Girishji came across as a sensible man, who could see his daughter's irrational behaviour and thought it necessary to stop Shravani. Anybody could see that Shravani was getting wild for all the wrong reasons and so he acted upon to stop his daughter's irrationality which was harming Shravani's image more than anyone else. He has no reason to dislike Archana and can see Archana's goodness unlike Shravani. He could see that everyone else in the house has started loving Archana and they are getting hurt by Shravani's demand too.

But that does not negates his shrewd behaviour in past like when he came to know that Archana has said 'No' to divorce Manav, he told Shravani that he has to think of something ( meaning inspite of knowing that Archana got rid of her misunderstanding for Manav and wanted to come back to Manav, Girishji wanted to device a way to stop Archana from coming back in Manav's life because he wanted his daughter's life to be secured). I know he was being 'Practical' and acting in the interest of Shravani, like a father should do but in my opinion it was unethical and selfish demeanour ' to safeguard his daughter's future at expense of Archana's future. By the time Archna came .........things had changed is the reality . The changes were drastic......Sachin had gone and a baby had arrived . These changes were NOT minor changes that can be dismissed off so lightly just bcoz Archna came back at her whim . Manav had already committed to be there for the baby by marrying Shravni and seeing that it did NOT come in the world like an illegitimate child . Girish is NOT just Shravni's father , he is also the baby's grandfather .All his money cud NOT take away the stigma of illegitmacy on the child once it was born that way ........at that point Shravni was NOT in love with Manav but hell bent on bringing the child in the world . The whole equation had changed .........it was the BABY VS ARCHNA . The baby won , naturally . If Girish is unethical and selfish so is EVERYONE including Manav , Deshmukhs, even the stupid Karanjkars who r supporting this divorce .........coz No one is saying Archna is more important than the baby . The Karanjkars r behaving graciously about this divorce only coz they have sighed and resigned themselves to accepting the reality ........that now the baby MUST be given precedence . They r not behaving graciously coz they LOVE shravni . Well then Girish is Shravni's father and the babys Grandpa both . What will he do at that time when the first wife suddenly shows up ........say that Ah , u two have such a love story , carry on , carry on , no probs if my grandchild is illegitimately born , I'll do something abt it , u two carry on ha ? The truth that this serial depicts [ like it or not] is that Archna comes back when THINGS CHANGE BEYOND REPAIR . That 'love stories' can be put on hold for a human life . An unconsummated virgin who hardly had 15 days of marital life but filed for divorce can remarry and set her life but a baby illegitimately born will truly SUFFER for life . Had Archna been pregnant again , value wud be given to the baby in her tummy and she wud have been given precedence . But the FACT is , she is NOT , she has not even LOST her virginity , and this is the fact that ALL r taking advantage of .........not just GIRISh , who has every right to accept a solution for his unwed pregnant daughter ......a far greater source of worry than Archna who popped up whimsically back in this arrangement coz she finally had some proof , claiming she is still madly in LOVE .

And that does not negate his insensitive behaviour in past when he forced Manav to get engaged to Shravani in presence of Archana when both Manav and Shravani were against it. He did not spare a thought for Archana's pain to see her husband getting engaged to another girl. He brought his friends along and looked happy on the engagement day while being totally oblivious to Archana's feeling. There was nothing good about Girishji there either. Nothing good ...yes . Thats why i said ......NOT SUCH A BAD MAN . But then I can understand his POV too . The first wife had popped up , his experience told him that HIS own daughter now needed not just a verbal commitment but also a social one .......the world is a bad place , and his daughter was so intricately in a mess that he had to look out for her . Hence his insistence on a social promise which came across as ruthless but at that point he cared a hang if the world thought he was ruthless . He wanted to protect his daughter's interests bas .And what has happened today ? Even Savita is backing out on her promise that Ill make Shravni my bahu . Girish's experience of the world is RIGHT ...he knows people change . But he cud not afford that change as it was based on these people's WORD that his foolish daughter was going in for a full term pregnancy , not heeding to HIS advice of abortion . Well so be it , but he was damned if he wud allow any of them to back out then . Is he so wrong ? I dont think so , at least from MY POV .

Lastly his sugar coated dialogues to Archana before he asked Archana to let his daughter get her rights. Did he ever think of being nice to Archana before? No, because he had no need, because he knew Savita hated Archana so much and Archana has no place in the house. But now that everyone has started liking Archana and his daughter is getting threatened by Archana's goodness, he becomes nice to her and pleads her for his daughter's happiness with folded hands. He knows perfectly well that if Archana decides to get selfish here then there is no chance for his daughter to be with Manav, so he talks to Archana tactfully in an attempt to safeguard Shravani's future once again. Disagree here totally . I dont think he was bad to Archna either .........till that point Archna had hardly mattered in HIS life . He was indifferent to her . For him , she was just a bahu of the Deshmukhs he had off and on seen at occasions , Sachins's vahini , seemed like a good gal from a good family , bas . Whats so wrong with that . Where does the qestion of him being 'NICE ' to her by going out of the way even arise . When she mattered in HIS life via his daughter's relation with Manav he spoke up . That is perfectly correct . Regarding sugar coated words ........He speaking respectfully to Archna and telling her to accept reality and butt out .........showed that he was practical but not without manners and even today when he firmly told his daughter that Archna will stay , he spoke in the same respectful but firm way . So do u find his words sugar coated even today ? I see it only as the way he speaks . He is rich , but quite respectful , not outright spoilt like Rasika or Ajit . Why shud even his civilty be termed as 'sugar coated words' .

Just few days back he was questioning Manav that why Archana was still living in the house and why all family members are giving her so much importance and he hinted Manav that Archana should leave. It's OK if he questions why Archana was still living there but why should he be bugged by the importance Archana is getting by family members? Girishji is not a bad person but some of his actions are calculated and are not exactly nice either. Of course he shud be concerned about the first wife getting this much importance in a house where his daughter was gonna be bahu . that is perfectly NORMAL .The problem is we have been subjected to so much ABNORMAL behaviour and reactions in this serial that we have kind of lost perspective about NORMALCY . We see the Karanjkars gushing over Shravni .........it is ridiculous . What shud have been shown is Sulochna bugging her silly daughter to COME HOME AT ONCE . But na......they r showing Sulochna coming UNIVITED to Shravnis GOD BHARAAI to support her saintly daughter . And on that background the very normal Girish looks like a very bad villain . What is he supposed to feel .........elated , that not only did the first wife pop up , she has slowly taken over and is hogging the whole show by playing the Deshmukh bahu right under his daughters nose who is obviously very unhappy ? his feeling of irritation was very NATURAL .

BTW Archana is behaving ridiculously in front of Shravani these days but development in future tracks cannot be used as a basis for past debates as we have no control over future developments. We can only debate with the facts that are given so far in the show. Like sympathizers of Shravani are getting pinched too with Shravani behaving so wildly but its understandable development in the character and in the story so no need to feel bad.

Nobody is using development in future tracks as a basis for current debates . Only day before yesterday .....one day before this commentary was given , Girish was still discussed as a business man by some members and hence my comment in my Commentary . My Commentary is based on day to dAy episodes only . The day Archna blasted Rasika I have praised her in my commentary .The day Shravni came across as snobbish I called her UH Oh She is status consciuos in my commentary . Archna's extreme silliness may be visible to her fans NOW but I have seen it coming since MANY days . The day Girish does something BAD in my eyes I will comment on that too . I am not on any character's side as neither do I hate them nor LOVe them . It is the story I love and follow . As far as sympathizers of Shravni feeling 'pinched ' goes ........I dunno about that either . I dont feel pinched at all as though I defended her off and on , I did it from a human perspective , I neither like her or hate her as a character .What other sympathizers feel I really dunno .😊
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Posted: 15 years ago
Tanya ur posts r really nice and objective now . But darling ur saying what Girish shud do or Manav shud do .............u tell me first what Archna shud do .I wanna hear about that too . Then Ill comment .
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Posted: 15 years ago
Shud she marry Manav coz Girish tells him u marry Archna ?
Shud she marry Manav coz Shravni develops a heart and says I release u from promise ?
Shud she marry Manav coz Savita stops divorce ?
Shud she go back and start a new life ?
Shud she be a good friend , NEVER marry and somehow be associated with this family ?
What shud Archu do in ur opinion ?I wanna hear that .
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Posted: 15 years ago
Archana .....😆
you got me there .
I wish could tell clearly what Archana should do . The problem is that I myself cannot read Archana very clearly these days .
I think Archana is sort of living a double life right now .
One side of her wants to do the right thing . That is to support Manav .She feels extremely guilty that she had let him down once . That she left him and her family was indirectly responsible for the sufferings of his family . From that POV she feels that Manav and Shravani should marry , Manav should keep his words and give Shravani all the rights of a wife ( including sex and everything ) . That he should have a great life with Sachin's baby and his new wife ..She wants to do everything in her power to make that happen .....She is the perfect devi from that angle .
But , alas, she is not all a 100 % Devi ...the other side of her is screaming to be rescued ...from this huge hole that is getting bigger and bigger in her heart every day ..She is trying to move forward , come to terms with the fact that Manav will not be hers , but the harder she is trying , the bigger that hole is becoming .
Few days ago , she stopped and looked back hopefully at him that he will say something to her ...but he didn't .
She has realized that she can never compete with Shravani's baby when it comes to the priority in Manav's life . Right now she has resigned herself to her fate . All she wants now is a place in Manav;'s heart . She wants him to marry Shravani and do what he has been working towards ....not break his promise but somewhere she is in her own way begging him to keep just this small special place for her and smile whenever he thinks of her ...
She is in no position to dictate terms ...if she says yes to divorce , she looses Manav but gains everyone's respect and the baby gets a home and a great dad .
But if she says No ... she looses manav's respect and will be seen as a selfish person ( someone Manav hates ) , and the baby looses a secure future ..
So obviously she is determined to say Yes to divorce .
One thing she cannot bear is to see hate and anger in Manav;s eyes for her . She has worked very hard to get those loving looks again . She never wants to loose that ever .
Edited by Tanyaz - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Hope ..........one word ..........Simply Brilliant , Saamke Superb go u MADE my NITE before retiring to bed

Quick one before going


SOOOO true about a Rich man like Girish taking directions from Savita abt decorating the room .............


Seems like Father is nicer than daughter and does NOT have her snob element ?But all in all , an unrealistic scene


Ur analyis abt messed up Archu is Sooo true.........abt how Chubby never got intutions when she slept with insects and jumped in Dombivli suicide lake


Savitas empty campaign promise is SOOO true...........


PR SUCKS NOW .I think by the time divorce comes . no one will CARE if Manav Archu stay married or divorce .


Mog


kool





my sentiments exactly..been a long time since i said that kools 😆
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Posted: 15 years ago
If Girish and Shravani understand that the promise was made in very unnatural circumstances and tell manav that the engagement is broken bu tthat does not mean that baby will not be in touch with them . And if Manav is very happy with this situation ...then of course both her and manav should get back together .
She must not listen to Savita alone at this point . Only and only Girish and Shravani 's request should be given importance ...she did the right thing by teling Savita not to be bad to Shravani . Savita cannot manipulate lives as and when she wants .
Most definitely she should go back to work and study . I would prefer it if she did not keep in touch with manav at all ...but knowing the way this show worked , obviously it will drop like hell if the very USP ( the lead couple ) is not together at all ...so obviously there will be incidences where they will keep coming together . I don't want her chasing him ..Keep the hi hellos brief and sweet ....always ask about his wife and his baby .
But the problem might happen if he is in trouble ....I don't know how she will ignore that ..
If they keep too much in touch with each other than I don't think hsi wife will like it . In that case she should keep away ....and more important Manav should keep away as it is his marriage and he is responsible for that .
I don't think they should be romantically involved after divorce , even if they want to , they must try avoid such a situation .
Edited by Tanyaz - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Tanya..........It is simple .Manav loves her but NOT more than the baby .


kools i dont think it is about love..more like responsibility..not being able to turn your back on your blood...it had gone too far and he doesnt know how to break his promise now...although if he asks any one of us we could very well tell him how he could do it..WITH PLEASURE! 😆
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: bhavni88




must be lovely in the caribbean...

I am in the uk....😆

mog

bhavni...


it is aite 😊
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Posted: 15 years ago

Agreed that Shravani's condition is much worse than Archana if she doesn't get married to Manav and therefore everyone is supporting Manav's decision and Girishji worked around to make sure that Manav sticks to his words. But I would have considered Girishji a nice person if he had talked to Archana about his helplessness and sympathized with her much before when even Savita hated her.

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

. Disagree here totally . I dont think he was bad to Archna either .........till that point Archna had hardly mattered in HIS life . He was indifferent to her . For him , she was just a bahu of the Deshmukhs he had off and on seen at occasions , Sachins's vahini , seemed like a good gal from a good family , bas . Whats so wrong with that . Where does the qestion of him being 'NICE ' to her by going out of the way even arise .

Question arises coz he himself told Shravani yesterday that Archana is giving up love and marriage for Shravani. He had known that all along that Archana is doing a sacrifice of mammoth proportion for Shravani. So why not go out of the way and acknowledge her sacrifice and be nice to her while Shravani refuses to accept anything good about Archana. He was in Deshmukh's house several times after Archana came to stay for 3 months but he did not talk to her once in an effort to give sympathy to her.

When she mattered in HIS life via his daughter's relation with Manav he spoke up . That is perfectly correct . Regarding sugar coated words ........He speaking respectfully to Archna and telling her to accept reality and butt out .........showed that he was practical but not without manners and even today when he firmly told his daughter that Archna will stay , he spoke in the same respectful but firm way . So do u find his words sugar coated even today ? I see it only as the way he speaks . He is rich , but quite respectful , not outright spoilt like Rasika or Ajit . Why shud even his civilty be termed as 'sugar coated words' .

Regarding his sugar coated dialogues- he said to Archana that he loves her, respects her and has never wished bad for her and wishes her happiness. Arey when you had to ploy Manav-shravani engagement to make sure that Shravani stays in the house and Archana does not then why put up this sham, say honestly that ' I'd to do things for my daughter and her child's future and I'm sorry for you. And that you are paying to some extend for Sachin and Shravani's mistake.

Edited by Arien_03 - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
Archu slaps Shravani tomm...🥳

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