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Arien_03

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Posted: 15 years ago

#31

Archana never hovered between them... she has always pushed Manav towards Shravani and made him try n understand her situation and her POV on contrary... Why Archana attempt at making her relationship better with Manav and his family is seen as clinging on... why can't she part away from family in good terms.... Is it necessary that if people are getting divorced they should part with sour feelings?

Edited by Arien_03 - 15 years ago

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Arien_03

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Posted: 15 years ago

#32

Time to leave for home, am at work now..... will catch up later... bye

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gaurimisha

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Posted: 15 years ago

#33

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

GM he was not trying to PROTECT her honor , he was trying to shield his own brothers mistake as he shields hundreds of Savitas mistake .He did it so dead Sachin did not get a negative name forever . Why the constant feeling of being responsible for Sachin ? Do u mean to say all elder bros in this world shud marry younger bros wives if this happens ?

It was saving Deshmukh honor more than Shravnis honor .As tarantulla said rightly , Shravnis honor IS NOT manavs problem ...it is her dads problem .

And anyways he jumped in and gave a monstrous commitment . So ok stick by it .

He knew that both shravani and sachin are responsbile and are at fault for her getting pregnant before marriage.But the Indian society has always been more harsh towards the female.

Its here Manav felt that shravani shouldnt be suffering alone for something which his bro was equally responsible for.

Constant feeling of being responsible for sachin comes out of his guilt.He felt his family suffered bcoz of archu's family which resulted in sachin's untimely death...he found himself guilty of sachin's death somewhere...had it been he had not married archana,all this wud simply have not happened.....his thinking were on lines "If it werent for me,my family wudnt be suffering now"....he felt angry at archana bcoz she came late to help him out,didnt leave upto his expectations....but moreover,somewhere he blamed himself for all this.

It is bcoz of this guilt,that he thought he should be paying for sachin's mistake....it was his way of punishing himself,by closing doors of his own happiness.

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authentic_self

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Posted: 15 years ago

#34

I agrre with GM, wot ever Sharav is goin thru is all becoz Manav has nt delivered wot she expected. She has no right to question Archu. If she has any insecurities regarding her future she shud question Manav and stop blaming Archu.

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koolsadhu1000

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Posted: 15 years ago

#35

Originally posted by: authentic_self

I agree with all that u said Kool di except the rights thing. The money thing that i mentioned was jus an example. but still i will nt agree that Archu has been given the rights which she rightly deserves. Rather i wud say Sharav has got all the rights without even demanding 4 them.

As far as cooking and behaving like bahu is concerned, Archu was nt allowed to enter the kitchen wen she initially returned. But Dam baba used to ask her make sumthng 4 him and then gradually she was allowed to do the kitchen work which was not objected by Sharav. It was only after Sav aai poisioned Shrav against Archu, she started disliking every thing that Archu did. Personally even i dont like Archu doing the household chores and helping Manav. I wud hav loved to see- even after returning to the Deshmukh house hold, Archu continues with her job and studies and wud pay the Deshmukhs for staying at their house and nt be an extra burden on them. And after 3 months jus leave frm there.

Archu enforcing herself on Sharav is also sumthng which I personally dont like. But there is one thing that Archu has been nice to her from start and for that matter even Sharav. Archu has nt changed it is Sharav who has changed. Wen her equation with Archu was fine, she wud consider Archu's nature as caring, loving person. But since the equation has turned out to be sour frm her side she hates her very existence in that house. Being selfish to the extent that it doesnt harm some other person is acceptable, but becoming selfish to such an extent and against the very person who is ready to give away all her rights for ur sake is just nt acceptable. wot if tomorrow Archu refuses to divorce Manav?

So let her do that na ! Do it and she has my full support as a viewer . Refuse the damn divorce .Her sister Vaishu told her , her brother Vinod told her .Refuse it . That is acceptable .What is NOT acceptable is hovering around between them like this , saying Im moving on , you guys have my best wishes this and that .........and never stopping being a wife . That is hypocritical . Even when he had fever .With all due respect , if she really was moving on , she shud have felt his forehead , made him lie down , and gone straight to Savita and woken her up to take care of him . And she shud have stayed out of the picture . But she cant do that . She JUST CAN"T . This talk of ur marraige has my blessing Im moving on is HOGWASH . By constantly interfering like this she never gave them a chance is the truth .

About rights given to Shravni . Ruchi , may be perfunctorily it seems to us as if Shravni got some rights .Like that money .Or love from savita .Or obedient behaviour from Manav . They r NOT rights in true sense ........it is like showing sweets to an idol of God for a minute and then gobbling them up ourselves . Where has she exercised any of those rights ? In fact today , full control is in Archus hands and Shravni is the outsider , even Savita wants only the bachcha and her to go . This isnt right of the Deshmukhs . Tell ur son bluntly na .........you must marry Archna only , we want only Archu as Bahu . And let Manav obey u guys . But no .U guys want to extract that bachcha from Shravni and r saying behind her back Actually na we want Archu we did big mistake till she overhears it and becomes unhappy . This aint right .At least to me .

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Mandy

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Posted: 15 years ago

#36

Girish has no right to question Manav as to why Archana is still living there, she is still legally Manav's wife and if he didn't want Shravani being known as the other woman he shouldn't have forced a relationship between her and Manav. I know it was Manav's decision to marry Shravani for the sake of her child but isn't he the one who wanted to see them engaged before he left? He is the one who was forcing Shravani to marry someone else so soon after Sachin's death. I hated his line about injustice being done to his daughter, a couple is willing to give up their marriage for her happiness and injustice is being done to her..wow! How selfish can these two be?

I liked Savita and Archana's scene, Archana is right her goodness ultimately won over Savita so why not Shravani? Archana can't change who she is but maybe she can change Shravani. Shravani needs to grow up and accept responsibilities, she seems like an immature child always throwing a tantrum when she doesn't get her way.

Another scene I liked was with Satish and Varsha, they are so cute together

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gaurimisha

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Posted: 15 years ago

#37

Originally posted by: Arien_03
Archana never hovered between them... she has always pushed Manav towards Shravani and made him try n understand her situation and her POV on contrary... Why Archana attempt at making her relationship better with Manav and his family is seen as clinging on... why can't she part away from family in good terms.... Is it necessary that if people are getting divorced they should part with sour feelings?

Agree here Archana has always pushed a reluctant Manav towards shravani.She never hovered between them but it was Manav who was indifferent to shravani's feelings,her love confessions etc.

She definitely can part on good terms but what she's doing for Manav is beyond just maintaining good terms....she's being selfish here...in her want to treasure all happy moments,she is indirectly making it difficult for the others to let go of her.This is the only human side to her otherwise out-of-the world sainthood.

Edited by gaurimisha - 15 years ago

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koolsadhu1000

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Posted: 15 years ago

#38

Originally posted by: Arien_03
Archana never hovered between them... she has always pushed Manav towards Shravani and made him try n understand her situation and her POV on contrary... Why Archana attempt at making her relationship better with Manav and his family is seen as clinging on... why can't she part away from family in good terms.... Is it necessary that if people are getting divorced they should part with sour feelings?

I disagree here . Yes she hovered , and she hovered constantly . In vandus problem , in garage problem , in this and that , right upto point of nursing Manav herself instead of waking his mom up . Simple thing ...if she goes in 14 days and he falls sick , who will take care of him ?His mom na ? So go , fetch his mom .But na....she wants to PLAY WIFEY till the end and walk off with MEMORIES .......well , her playing WIFEY all the time made Shravni more and more insecure . What Archna has done is absolutely not rifgght .

No one does not have to part on sour terms in a divorce necessarily . She cud have been pleasant by staying out of crucial family matters too . But thats NOT what has happened there ....she is playing Bahu and Wifey both .

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gaurimisha

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Posted: 15 years ago

#39

Why is it not right for Archana to play wifey when she's one,Kool?

She said she loves him,she says she'll think of manav as her husband forever...but at the same time will let go of him.

Its her feelings,she isnt obliged to restrict what she feels like doing just bcoz shravani will feel bad.If shravani doesnt understand her,its her problem.Archana has said it in many words how and what she feels.

I feel it shud be ok for shravani with what she's getting from archana...archana has no obligations whatsoever to shravani.

Before agreeing to marry Manav,did shravani think of consulting his wife in this matter.No.She said yes to him.Later on,she did give him chance to back out.But that still doesnt take away the fact that while agreeing to marry she never thought of talking with archana or asking her about what she wanted...it was all Manav.

Archana atleast has the decency to be honest with shravani.

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koolsadhu1000

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Posted: 15 years ago

#40

Originally posted by: gaurimisha
Why is it not right for Archana to play wifey when she's one,Kool?
Coz her hubby is marrying another woman and bidding her ta ta ? Coz to date he is not saying Ur my Wifey , but A GOOD FRIEND ? She is a WIFEY on PAPER ONLY is What she is constantly reminded of ? Coz that is so so demeaning ..or have we lost total perspective here ?

She said she loves him,she says she'll think of manav as her husband forever...but at the same time will let go of him. Yeah , right . thats her idea of MOVING ON . I forgot .😆

Its her feelings,she isnt obliged to restrict what she feels like doing just bcoz shravani will feel bad.If shravani doesnt understand her,its her problem.Archana has said it in many words how and what she feels. Oh no she is not obliged to restrict what she feels . Its her feelings . Agree totally here . But then remember this applies to eVERYONE , including Shravani ! She too is NOT obliged to understand Archnas feelings . Let her too go tooth and nail for that Manav ....in the process if she bull dozes Archu , why r hate clubs started ? Be fair guys .

I feel it shud be ok for shravani with what she's getting from archana...archana has no obligations whatsoever to shravani. Indeed she has NONE . Then why the hell is she going around defending her publicly ? GM she is cONSTANTLY making her presence felt in Shravni's matters . Thats NOT right .Shravni is tough gal ......she will handle chawl cats and party folk too . Remember how she had said I dont mind what people say anymore to Savita when first her pregnancy was noticed . And having no obligations does not mean INTERFERING constantly .......U gotta respect others wishes ! If Manav lets her interfere in his matters like not pushing her away when she plays nursemaid to him by saying Call my mommy I dont want u ........FINE . Ur still married to him . But when Shravni says Go away Dont play nurse I want Savita only ...........LISTEN ! Here u cannot say she has no obligations to listen to Shravni ..........here it is literally forcing urself on sumone .

Before agreeing to marry Manav,did shravani think of consulting his wife in this matter.No.She said yes to him.Later on,she did give him chance to back out.But that still doesnt take away the fact that while agreeing to marry she never thought of talking with archana or asking her about what she wanted...it was all Manav. Why will she consult Archu ? The divorce was so bitter , so bitter at that point , remember the circumstances ! Was there any hope that this lady even LIKED manav anymore ? Still to her credit she told three times tO maNav Go and try to patch up , I will back out .Fair enough . I dont think she shud have talked to Archna at all .....that was Archu Manavs problem that they both dID NOT FEEL THE NEED TO TALK TO EACH OTHER TILL THE POINT OF DIVORCE HEARING . Did MaNav meet Archu to tell this from his own mouth ? No na ?Then Why r u saying Shravni who was pregnant Shud do it .

Archana atleast has the decency to be honest with shravani.Absolutely disagreed . By voicing her blunt hate Shravni has been more honest all along with Archu , Manav and even Deshmukhs . Manav has blatantly LIED saying INSAANIYAT CRAP . Archu has been somewhat honest saying I love him and divorce or paper seperation cannot seperate us spiritually .But the most honest has been that hated gal Shravni who has been very honest about her jealousies , love , takleef hoti hai dialogues everything . My opinion purely .😃

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