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Posted: 15 years ago
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Sorry I did not read everyone's comment so really apologize if I am repeating someone's thoughts.
The way Shravani was telling her dad that if she leaves the house then Archana will take Manav away from her. What a sadistic thought! This clearly shows that Shravani does not care at all for ArMan to get together even if ArMan really want to save their marriage. Today I really hated Shravani's selfish thoughts. she is trying to leech to Manav so that she and her baby have a future.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Tulsey

Sorry I did not read everyone's comment so really apologize if I am repeating someone's thoughts.

The way Shravani was telling her dad that if she leaves the house then Archana will take Manav away from her. What a sadistic thought! This clearly shows that Shravani does not care at all for ArMan to get together even if ArMan really want to save their marriage. Today I really hated Shravani's selfish thoughts. she is trying to leech to Manav so that she and her baby have a future.



tulsey you are correct. lat thrusday she said to Archu you wanted me to beg for manav right? well fine you shoul dbe happy because I am going to beg?

I really really have strong strong not so good feelign for this girl🤢🤢
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Ok . read all view points and here my comments : .
Shravni is a drama queen ........speaking strictly of this episode , she did NOT do drama but REALLY fell , we all saw it
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Running of to ;Rich Dad ' .........she didn't even know 'rich dad ' was returning
She had definetely not anticipated her own fall or return of Girish
We do NOT see her for so many days phoning Girish and telling tales on the phone and rightly or wrongly she has been unhappy for MANY days now
Girish was as surprised as others to see her turbulent state .He had NO IDEA things had come to this point ........this means , for so many days Shravni the bad witch did NOT do 'dramas' and tattle to GIrish her 'RICH DAD"
Its really nOT her fault that her Dad is rich .........it is a mere fact of life
' Poor Dad ' of Archu had shown distrust on Manav when Ajit accused him publicly of being a pimp inspite of Manav saving his life during suicide attempt and is now gushing love on him when he solved his money problem
'RICH DAD " gave 3 lacs to Manav without asking any questions or grilling him too much ..........so it cannot be fair that RIch Dad 's money is ok for saving Archus family but Rich Dad himself is not ok
Archu has to think many times before she takes panga with RIch Dad coz it is his money that 'saved' her Poor Dad's butt .like it or not
Archu may go not coz Manav tells her to , or coz she wants to , or for 'self respect ' even , but bcoz of the 3 lac loan from Girish...... .purely practical reasoning she is aware her family is in his debt and anyway Manav is to date not asking her to stay with him forever
Archu living there by 'IGNORING MANAV" and focussing on DAM BABA and SAVITA will achieve nothing although it sounds like a perfectly tit for tat answer in our moment of rage
Her goal initially of coming back and even the court order was for her to work on her relationship with Manav which went sour since day one coz Manav announced he was marrying someone else
So 'ignoring Manav' and focussing on now turned saint SAvita and good but useless DAm Baba for these remaining 14 days will achieve literally nothing .........the winning of hearts , rishta banana etc has already taken place anyways
The Best thing wud be not to WASTE a moment of her precious life and to go back to her studies and job which is NOT EVEN ENTERING HER PRETTY HEAD
I will NOT BLAME MANAV if he asks her to leave Or make Kabab lazeez of him [ hear that niki] tomorrow as HE IS NOT WRONG THIS TIME............He GAve a Commitment and stuck to it like a man [ one of the few manly things he did] and not ONCE did he encourage Archu to have any hope .........What he told her on Day one , THat only he told her the Day before , that I cannot be ur husband , just ur good friend
On this background Manav will naturally stand by his commitment and ask her to leave
By clinging on too much in the 'I AM COLLECTING MEMORIES FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE " zest , Archu has ignored these facts , lost her dignity and invited many insults and even this one IF it comes
Like it or Not , at this point when Pavitra Bachcha is going to come out any moment MAnav CANNOT DUMP SHRAVNI
So trying to SHow spirit suddenly and saying Im here for court order and for focussing on my lovely new rishta with Savita and DAmo simply to flex muscles in front of Manav and Girish is !!!!!! ??????
Like it or not , more important than ARchu , Shravni , and even Manav , is the delivery of the baby who has been such a sensitive issue
So naturally ALL decisions will be taken on basis of baby alone NOW . The time to take decisions , options , HAS GONE .Now only one route remains .
So Manav will think of baby , Archu , with her maturity will support him , and Savita too will support baby only . THe three will arrive at a common decision which at this time is appropriate .
Regarding 'PLAYING WIFEY" .........that Archu shud do it coz she IS the Wifey Kool , let me point out one thing . All these sasuraal relations , asserting herself as the wife , this and that is ultimately due to our relation with the main person .........the husband . If The husband from the first day of the court order stay till the last day of the court order stay says only one thing ........That we are over and you mUST GO in the end ...........the marraige is indeed OVER . Play Wifey if u have a glimmer of hope , if he says ........Ok , Lets try , But I dont think it will work out . HE CATEGORICALLY DOESN"T SAY THAT . TILL THE END HE DOESN"T SAY THAT . The court order was actually nothing but telling her to PLAY WIFEY FOR 3 MONTHS MORE .......but it was subject to MUTUAL CONSENT TOO . Not when THe husband is marrying another woman , getting engaged to her , putting sindoor on her ............Playing Wifey shud have stopped there itself . Clinging on and playing Wifey even after that is very very sad . Shravni is equally pathetic but she has MAnav on her side ........saying I will marry u come what may . ARchna does NOT have this yet she plays WIfey . HUsband gone .........Playing wifey has NO MEANING .
Ultimately , Archu Manav will NOT DIVORCE . This is sureshot . Something will happen and stop it .That something will be very dramatic . It will stop the divorce .It may be an accident , Shravnis death , Girish having change of heart , Shravni changing , Archu SAVING sHravni oncemore .........Savita yelling at GIRISH ..........ANYTHING . But it will happen coz DRAMA KINGS are CREATIVES who r acting UNDER Orders of DRAMA QUEEN [ EKTA} .😊
Edited by koolsadhu1000 - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: gaurimisha

Manav wont explain anything to girishji bcoz he feels guilty.

Savita n damo may try to stop archu...but then we all know how much stubborn she is when it comes to 'saving her manav'.
I'm just going to be sooo mad at him...just let him to something

I will be mad as well, very very disappointed.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Ok . read all view points and here my comments : .

Shravni is a drama queen ........speaking strictly of this episode , she did NOT do drama but REALLY fell , we all saw it
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Running of to ;Rich Dad ' .........she didn't even know 'rich dad ' was returning
She had definetely not anticipated her own fall or return of Girish
We do NOT see her for so many days phoning Girish and telling tales on the phone and rightly or wrongly she has been unhappy for MANY days now
Girish was as surprised as others to see her turbulent state .He had NO IDEA things had come to this point ........this means , for so many days Shravni the bad witch did NOT do 'dramas' and tattle to GIrish her 'RICH DAD"
Its really nOT her fault that her Dad is rich .........it is a mere fact of life
' Poor Dad ' of Archu had shown distrust on Manav when Ajit accused him publicly of being a pimp inspite of Manav saving his life during suicide attempt and is now gushing love on him when he solved his money problem
'RICH DAD " gave 3 lacs to Manav without asking any questions or grilling him too much ..........so it cannot be fair that RIch Dad 's money is ok for saving Archus family but Rich Dad himself is not ok
Archu has to think many times before she takes panga with RIch Dad coz it is his money that 'saved' her Poor Dad's butt .like it or not
Archu may go not coz Manav tells her to , or coz she wants to , or for 'self respect ' even , but bcoz of the 3 lac loan from Girish...... .purely practical reasoning she is aware her family is in his debt and anyway Manav is to date not asking her to stay with him forever
Archu living there by 'IGNORING MANAV" and focussing on DAM BABA and SAVITA will achieve nothing although it sounds like a perfectly tit for tat answer in our moment of rage
Her goal initially of coming back and even the court order was for her to work on her relationship with Manav which went sour since day one coz Manav announced he was marrying someone else
So 'ignoring Manav' and focussing on now turned saint SAvita and good but useless DAm Baba for these remaining 14 days will achieve literally nothing .........the winning of hearts , rishta banana etc has already taken place anyways
The Best thing wud be not to WASTE a moment of her precious life and to go back to her studies and job which is NOT EVEN ENTERING HER PRETTY HEAD
I will NOT BLAME MANAV if he asks her to leave Or make Kabab lazeez of him [ hear that niki] tomorrow as HE IS NOT WRONG THIS TIME............He GAve a Commitment and stuck to it like a man [ one of the few manly things he did] and not ONCE did he encourage Archu to have any hope .........What he told her on Day one , THat only he told her the Day before , that I cannot be ur husband , just ur good friend
On this background Manav will naturally stand by his commitment and ask her to leave
By clinging on too much in the 'I AM COLLECTING MEMORIES FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE " zest , Archu has ignored these facts , lost her dignity and invited many insults and even this one IF it comes
Like it or Not , at this point when Pavitra Bachcha is going to come out any moment MAnav CANNOT DUMP SHRAVNI
So trying to SHow spirit suddenly and saying Im here for court order and for focussing on my lovely new rishta with Savita and DAmo simply to flex muscles in front of Manav and Girish is !!!!!! ??????
Like it or not , more important than ARchu , Shravni , and even Manav , is the delivery of the baby who has been such a sensitive issue
So naturally ALL decisions will be taken on basis of baby alone NOW . The time to take decisions , options , HAS GONE .Now only one route remains .
So Manav will think of baby , Archu , with her maturity will support him , and Savita too will support baby only . THe three will arrive at a common decision which at this time is appropriate .
Regarding 'PLAYING WIFEY" .........that Archu shud do it coz she IS the Wifey Kool , let me point out one thing . All these sasuraal relations , asserting herself as the wife , this and that is ultimately due to our relation with the main person .........the husband . If The husband from the first day of the court order stay till the last day of the court order stay says only one thing ........That we are over and you mUST GO in the end ...........the marraige is indeed OVER . Play Wifey if u have a glimmer of hope , if he says ........Ok , Lets try , But I dont think it will work out . HE CATEGORICALLY DOESN"T SAY THAT . TILL THE END HE DOESN"T SAY THAT . The court order was actually nothing but telling her to PLAY WIFEY FOR 3 MONTHS MORE .......but it was subject to MUTUAL CONSENT TOO . Not when THe husband is marrying another woman , getting engaged to her , putting sindoor on her ............Playing Wifey shud have stopped there itself . Clinging on and playing Wifey even after that is very very sad . Shravni is equally pathetic but she has MAnav on her side ........saying I will marry u come what may . ARchna does NOT have this yet she plays WIfey . HUsband gone .........Playing wifey has NO MEANING .
Ultimately , Archu Manav will NOT DIVORCE . This is sureshot . Something will happen and stop it .That something will be very dramatic . It will stop the divorce .It may be an accident , Shravnis death , Girish having change of heart , Shravni changing , Archu SAVING sHravni oncemore .........Savita yelling at GIRISH ..........ANYTHING . But it will happen coz DRAMA KINGS are CREATIVES who r acting UNDER Orders of DRAMA QUEEN [ EKTA} .😊




Kool Mogga:

I came back very late last night at like 2 am so I was unable to read the entire thread. Am reading it since a few minutes. Will post on earlier posts later. On this one.

I agree with you Kool. 110%. No doubt, Everything you said about Shravani and her dad is correct. We do not like them because we are ArMan fans but if you look at them from an unbiased POV then this whole story now has only three culprits. Manav, Archana and Savita. IN THAT ORDER.

Manav is most at fault (even though I really love the charachter no matter what I am a softy for good hearted men and as he is not my hubby I can even forgive him his weakness - if he were my hubby he would receive a very stern talking to about the whole flip flopping thing - but then again I am not an Archu type person - I would have not stopped communicating with him to begin with)
- not for changing his mind or giving Archu hope but by refusing to maintain his distance from Archu. Archu is also at fault for allt he reasons you state above. Sav well the less said the bett.er

I would like very much if Archu makes lunch for the day (as apparently nobody can eat Sav's food anymore). She is already done with the laundry and the floor cleanup. unless of course she wants to do the bathroom. As we have noticed Manav aparently took Girishji's advice and slept after Girish left. I think once Archu has done her day's work. she should leave while Manav is sleeping. NO Rhona Dhona. Parents won't do it because they don't not want to wake up "Chiranjeevi" as he has not had much rest all night and then with Choo's drama.

I think she should leave because she is causing personally, singlularly and directly causing Choo and her baby (who she seems to adore so much) horrible distress. She MUST apply the advice she gave Manav the other day otherwise she will eb perceived as a FRAUD and a HYPOCRITE.

This will also help Manav and Sav get out of their predicament. After that, I personally don't care what she does. She could go study, back to work, cruise, haridwar. Multiple options are available because of availability of time and zero commitments.

I think if she really cares for Manav as a person she should realize the predicament created for Manav and Deshmukhs by her presence and leave without
causing any further distress for anyone. her staying is a lose-lose situation for everyone.

Her leaving may appear like a lose-lose situation in the short term but if Manav is very adamant about marrying Choo then her leaving is the best thing for everyone.

While we all know that Manav and Sav are flip flopping because of a change of heart, this change of heart was brought about by Archu's VERY DELIBERATE actions as she herself has confessed to Shravani when she was taking care of her.

I HOPE she leaves voluntarily otherwise the whole situation will be very degrading to watch. Like the entire month of Jan and Feb was pathetic for this very behaviour of Archu, no one else.

mog hope
Edited by stillhopeful - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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TOTALLY agree with U Hope . Saamke mulhe tuven .
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

TOTALLY agree with U Hope . Saamke mulhe tuven .



Arre Kool:

Look at how she has got everyone to hate this man Manav because he is reacting with his emotions.

Arre why did you not communicate to begin with. I understand why you left him but then why play hard to get?

She went to his house after divorce. He said you are too late AGAIN. She understood told if it is between you and me then I am the one to leave becuase i want to do my pati dharm, right?

Well do you pati dharm and give the man some peace of mind. yes, he will eb upset when you leave probably depressed too but that happens during any transitional phase, right?

So pick a lane and stick with it and lady you are approaching your destination, it is WAY WAY too late to change lanes now because all other lanes are taken.

Kool you are so right she keeps preaching to Manav and Sav that their kind actions will make thing siddicult for htem later right. SHE KNOWS THE DAMAGE SHE IS LAEVING IN HER WAKE, then be kindliek the devi that you are and leave voluntarily already.

Manav is a fool for the decision that he made. A total A CLASS BUDDHU. Not for the original decision (becasue circumstances we different then or event he sindoor too much pressure and unresolve dmind) BUT definitely for agreeing to engagement. So if you are supporting him then do so whole heartedly OR FIGHT LIKE A DOG FOR YOUR RIGHTS. Again, we are back to PICK A LANE.

Ni Goh? This woman is the cause of all my aggravation NOT Choo or Manav, unfortunately.


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Hope
Thats what she DOESNT DO ............Picking up a lane . Her sister Vaishu told her Clearly .....if ur not going after him , FORGET IT .
But Na . In her process of 'Collecting Memories to last her for a Lifetime' neither is SHe really moving on [ but actually unsconsciously clinging on] Nor is she truly allowing them to move on by ensuring that each member of the family is attached to her and LIKES her .
To his credit , much as I had disliked him at that point , Manav had TRIED TO MAKE HER HATE HIM . Coz he REALLY wanted her to move on .COz he knew WHICH LANE HE HAD PICKED . COz He dID NOT WANNA ENCOURAGE her falsely .
Manav Did NOT play a double game like Archu unconsciously did .........In the sense that HE STUCK TO ONE PATH ONLY . Not once did he even physically cuddle her when she threw herself in his arms , nor tell her verbally that I will see what I can do , if we can get back together . I still dislike the sindoor and bigamous engagement .....but What I am pointing out is HE PICKED A LANE .
When one MOves on , One Cuts off .............Like Manav did . Telling verbally Im moving on , getting family attached to u coz u wanna be LIKED A LOT before leaving and then when they cry telling them hypocrritically .......Dont cry ha , Dont Make things difficult for me AAi Baba .........is some gall , truly [ coz she had focussed on them Liking her . Her major sadness with Shravni was She doesnt understand me , and dunno why she doesnt like me ].
She got involved in EVERY damned thing in the house inspite of Manav telling her she and He are DONE AND OVER is my major objection to her behaviour . Had he given her a glimmer of hope and said Ok , Lets see , I wud have supported her and said GO Archu Go , win him as a woman .
But Nope . Till yesterday he is standing by EXACTLY what he told on first day of her stay ........That we have to divorce .
The full problem is neither Manavs nor Shravnis.........it is Archu's alone .
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Hope

Thats what she DOESNT DO ............Picking up a lane . Her sister Vaishu told her Clearly .....if ur not going after him , FORGET IT .
But Na . In her process of 'Collecting Memories to last her for a Lifetime' neither is SHe really moving on [ but actually unsconsciously clinging on] Nor is she truly allowing them to move on by ensuring that each member of the family is attached to her and LIKES her .
To his credit , much as I had disliked him at that point , Manav had TRIED TO MAKE HER HATE HIM . Coz he REALLY wanted her to move on .COz he knew WHICH LANE HE HAD PICKED . COz He dID NOT WANNA ENCOURAGE her falsely .
Manav Did NOT play a double game like Archu unconsciously did .........In the sense that HE STUCK TO ONE PATH ONLY . Not once did he even physically cuddle her when she threw herself in his arms , nor tell her verbally that I will see what I can do , if we can get back together . I still dislike the sindoor and bigamous engagement .....but What I am pointing out is HE PICKED A LANE .
When one MOves on , One Cuts off .............Like Manav did . Telling verbally Im moving on , getting family attached to u coz u wanna be LIKED A LOT before leaving and then when they cry telling them hypocrritically .......Dont cry ha , Dont Make things difficult for me AAi Baba .........is some gall , truly [ coz she had focussed on them Liking her . Her major sadness with Shravni was She doesnt understand me , and dunno why she doesnt like me ].
She got involved in EVERY damned thing in the house inspite of Manav telling her she and He are DONE AND OVER is my major objection to her behaviour . Had he given her a glimmer of hope and said Ok , Lets see , I wud have supported her and said GO Archu Go , win him as a woman .
But Nope . Till yesterday he is standing by EXACTLY what he told on first day of her stay ........That we have to divorce .
The full problem is neither Manavs nor Shravnis.........it is Archu's alone .



Kool:

I totally agree with you her. actions are deliberate and meant to show these people that they are losing something valuable.

I agree with you that the court order does not matter anymore infact as soon as Ajit -Vandu marriage happened court order ceased to matter.

She stayed and still stays because of her crusade "Save Manav'- her life's goal " Colelct Memories" and her own fears and desperation of the upcomign loss.

If this was not so then why would Manav and others find it difficult to respond directly to the question - why is Archu her? Let us forget that Girish asked the question because that will start a whole other discussion which again is immaterial to me.

Today everyone was on about the fact that Girish took a hard stance and defended Archu. Well much as I very very very much dislike Shravani on more than one front. yeh baat mujshe kuch hajam nahi hui.

Ok let's look at the situation objectively. Originally we had team Choo and team Archu. Deshmukh family was on team Choo (also LET US ALL PLEASE REMEMEBER Much as I love Manav THAT THESE TEAMS WERE CREATED BECAUSE OF ARCHU AND MANAV) we were all feeling bad for Archu at that time because she was the underdog. Why was she the underdog because as the interloper in that situation she had no allies, was vulnerable because she was away from her parents (Archu's choice no one else's her) and so we felt bad for her.

Let us assume that Choo had no had such a drastic personality change and that both she and Archu were devi's then keeping that scenario in mind if we suddenly see everyone moving from team choo to team archu.s hould we not feel bad fo rchoo as she is now the underdog? This assumption has to be made in order to hink objectively. because you have to remeber that the rason the deshmukhs switched teams was not because of Choo's actions but because of Archu's actions and the assumptionw ill help us see Choo as a non factor in the switching of alliances. Archu -Choo Comparisons by teh entire family is just beginning. alliances were switched a few weeks back.

I think we should eb glad that Girish has come to even the playing field. Now we will finally get to see a real fight. If Archu is truly sucha trophy for Manav thens he should ensure a fair fight. leave first. then when AManav is no longer under her influence let him reevaluate his decision and feelings for Archu and then if you want the trohy fight against team choo. You have your mom. she has her dad. we do not need archu on your side unevening hte playing field.


On the question ieself, Le'ts assume that one of Archu's supporters - HER DAD asks Manav or Sav that question. Then nobody would see any problem with this, right? Well in that siutation I want to know Manav's answer. because my firend while we may disagree on the intent or rights of the person posing the question WE CANNOT DISAGREE on the VALIDITY OF THE QUESTION ITSELF> The ENTIRE Show depends on the answer to this question.

So my advice to Manav, STOP STUUTERING, ANSWER THE QUESTION (outside of undue influence) and LET THE CHIPS FALL AS THEY MAY.
Edited by stillhopeful - 15 years ago
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@kool:On the day of his engagement,he said archana to forget him and move ahead.Now,he's giving her the mangalsutra and saying he doesnt agree that shravani is his wife but she is,and she will be till the divorce.He repeats this thrice infront of shravani.Isnt it some sort of encouragement for archana to behave all wifey ...
@hope:Archana is very selfish when it comes to this one person in her life...initially,she was unfair to Manav bcoz this person used to be her mother and now she tolerated all crap bcoz this person is Manav.
All her actions are dictated by love for this man...she's being selfish but at the same time,she has been honest with her feelings to both Manav and shravani.It is very difficult to pick a lane when someone has this kind of unconditional love.
If Manav made some mistakes under emotional pressure,dont u think Archana,as a human is entitled to some weakness as well,however broad minded ,sensitive or good she may be.
Her only weakness is her love for Manav...how I wish I could change that ..
As far as hating manav is concerned,it's just that people are more angry at him.
He shouted thrice at shravani saying archana has the right to everything as his wife till the divorce...then he had this nightmare,showing what he wants.Yet,when Girishji questions him about Archana,he keeps quite...why cudnt he tell to Girishji wht he told to shravani..politely but firmly?Bcoz he obviously was feeling guilty.
His love for archana has been limited to weak protests,nightmares,tears,beating up some unknown fellow in the mandir or working at karanjkars egolessly where as when archana realised she's in love with him,she has stood up for him against everyone....when we see archana being the selfish one for her love,we cant help wishing Manav being a bit selfish too...not one person wants to see him suffer,cry in life-long pain,and thts wht he's planning to do just now.
There is nothing wrong in him wanting to stay with his wife,whom he loves so much..but obviously he wont do that bcoz he's so selfless....it is this which is irritating as irritating as archana's selfless love.

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